>Inb4 there's bitching about WELL WHY NOT STILL MAKE THE MOVIE BUT HAVE A TRANS PERSON STAR IN IT, as if ScarJo and her production company were under any sort of affirmative duty to make such a movie out of the goodness of their hearts in the first place.
The funny thing about this is that they'll be less likely to even try making movies about trannies in the future because they're worried about getting harassed by angry trannies who want to destroy their careers.
Exactly. Just like every time I hear some black person freak out over imaginary hyper-subtle racism, it makes me that much more likely to choose not to engage a black person I meet by chance in daily life. I once had one shout at me aggressively because I used the term "Nigerian scam". At one point im gonna just not bother.
Yeah she was, so what? She was so problematic at work, she had to be fired. She was constantly bitching, getting aggressive with people. If you'd ask her to do a simple task she would sometimes just say "No.", and she was constantly accusing everyone of being racist in a deeply bitter way. One time somebody asked her "Where her heritage was from", or some tip-toeing bullshit trying to find out where in Africa her family was from. She laughed mockingly and repeated "My heritage?". I mean, bitch, she is falling over herself to not offend you and then THAT is causing you offense?
She was the epitomisation of how this mania about racism drives a wedge between people.
To be honest though I don't quite understand how it couldn't be considered mental illness. Anything that requires medical treatment is an illness and gender dysphoria has a pretty intensive treatment schedule.
Just because you keep saying its a complex issue doesn't make it so.
Its not complex scientifically, for hundreds of thousands of years we've been identifying ourselves, others, and animals as male/female boys & girls. It is not complex. Unless you're born intersex with both genitalia its clear cut, and even then intersex are always predominately male or female in their characteristics and clear which is the dominant sex within them.
As for social, that makes your science point mute. If gender is a social thing then why do people feel body dysphoria? If its a social/cultural thing why do they want to mutilate their body to have a body part which supports the clear cut scientific view of sex/gender.... "I'm really a boy so I want a penis..." if having a penis == boy then why do they want one etc. etc.
Because why is it now all of a sudden complex, and an issue...
Stop trying to make it an issue. Go back 1000 or 100 years and this wasn't a problem.
Please enlighten me how there is an issue with reality that penis = boy and vagina = girl? And explain why you want there to be an issue, because if you disagree with what I've said (which is how reality works, and causes no issues) it means you want conflict.
Because science has more understanding of these matters than it did 1,000 or 100 years ago. As we do about the world not being flat or the centre of the universe. The advance of scientific knowledge has nothing to do with 'wanting conflict'.
So people 1000 years ago didn't know if they themselves we're a boy or a girl? We're talking about words and their definitions we gave them, it's not about better scientific understanding as "boy" and "girl" etc. were made as terms simply based on genetalia...
Are you going to tell me that Michelangelo's David is actually a dipiction of a women? Or that if we found out that we've been reading chromosomes wrong that now Keanu Reeves is actually female and Scarlett Johnson is male? Just cuz what we thought was an X is actually a Y etc.
And again this gets to the conflict between science and social. If it's a social construct who cares what science says? It's then totally subjective, science can clearly say you're a guy, but nope you socially identify as a hedgehog... Or if it's based in science then we have the guide lines in biology with genetalia and chromesomes.
So I ask again, what is wrong with penis = boy, and vagina = girl? And if you disagree why do you want to cause conflict, as we have words and definitions that you're trying to fuck up and make more complex than they are. You can't even define what you define a boy/girl or male/female as, yet you're advocating that my reasoning and definitions are wrong.
'Or if it's based in science then we have the guide lines in biology with genetalia and chromesomes.'
And that's the point. Biological science has identified numerous cases that don't fit an easy sex dichotomy based on genitalia or chromosomes. There are people who have XXY, XYY, XXX, and XO chromosomal combinations, for example. There are people who have varying combinations of internal and external sexual organs which are both male and female. And that's without touching neuroscience.
The fact that this complexity exists and that science studies it in order better to understand it is not cause to be afraid or go into attack mode. There's no need to frame any of this in terms of 'conflict'.
Does the world really need a shitty movie full of Scarlett Johannsen unconvincingly portraying a transsexual man? Didn't the angry trans people do everyone a favor this time around?
but imagine millions of mayos getting out after watching the movie, and deciding that they will try to hookup with a tranny, with idea of Scarlett Johannsen looking tranny in their mind.
Does no one remember Transamerica? Felicity Huffman played a sympathetic trans woman in 2005. It won a ton of awards, made $15 million on its $1 million budget, LGBTOMGTFWTFBBQs shouting how great it was. Scarlet Bojangles seemed to be on track to make that movie times 10, but now that's not enough.
Times are a changing my buddy old friend. You see , what once was toast is now buttered toast and soon it will be eaten. We are at the buttery stage right now with extra honey applied. It's so sweet just before the kill.
I've been really curious about the hordes of great trans actors that people talk about when this topic comes up. Does anyone know of some movies with some of these actors in them? I just want to see who these people are tbh.
I just finished watching a showtime series called "Billions" that has a trans(?) person acting as a super smart trans person. Taylor Mason is the character's name, not sure who the actor is.
Wait, what the hell? The Wachowski brothers both transitioned to women? First of all, the chances that two brothers are both trans are so slim, but the added irony that they were collectively referred to as the "Wachowski brothers" is hilarious now in retrospect. I can't believe this wasn't more publicized, I never once heard about it.
Their Wikipedia article even has a note made after many edit wars saying that the movies should be credited to the name/gender they were at the time and not retroactively credited to their woman names.
Switch (the chick in white from the first matrix movie) was supposed to be trans, woman in the matrix and a dude irl. But the studio nipped that in the bud in the last moment.
A shame, since the Matrix makes it clear early on you appear in the simulation as you perceive yourself to be. This would ctually be a good way of putting in a topic like this in a movie without shoehorning it.
Even better: the Wachowskis frequented a famous SF dominatrix whose thing is apparently ‘encouraging’ people to transition (e.g. Buck Angel is one of her exes) shortly before deciding to go MtF, Lana’s still with her IIRC
I will never understand the autists wanting something done within seconds instead of shit being done gradually by random people who'll benefit from it.
Like, do they not know how reality works? Did they think slavery was magically over when Lincoln went all no on it, instead of getting shot for even attempting it?
It's a damn shame she couldn't use that pull, money, or production company to actually make a movie starring trans people.
She could but why? The whole point of acting is to pretend to be something you're not. Why bother tracking down some no name trans actor just so the movie can flop?
u/mike_gainor
Well the next time a trans character is cast, Hollywood will understand that keeping trans actors out of jobs isn't something that people want to see
Name one trans actor without googling. I bet even you can name one they're some total unknown that the average person has never heard about
And trans actors will actually start to get work
No they won't. Because any actor can play a trans person. There's no need to go and track down a trans actor
u/mirestuck
If some producer were smart they would grab this movie and get it filmed pronto with a great trans actor in the lead
Yea because the world is just drowning in big name good actors who are also trans right?
Why do people not understand that these people get the roles they get because they're proven commodities that will sell.
It's almost like a subset of the population won't put butts in seats. And Laverne Cox. I don't even care for this tranny shit and even I could name a trans actor. Step ya game up.
On top of that, trannies are ugly and actors need above all to look good.
There are a tiny number of movies about trannies where their particular form of "ugly" actually helps the film but maybe like one or two people max could make a career out of staring in every tranny flick, except that wouldn't even work because people would get sick of it.
Have you ever maybe thought that Hollywood is so racist that they’d rather white wash/erase diverse characters solely for money?
The movie was about specifically about a trans man, so literally what sense does it make to cast a woman? So that people can continue to call trans men woman and trans women men?
Right? She should have come out and said she was gender fluid and she was going to self ID as a trans man during filming. It would have been hilarious.
At this point there isn't anywhere near enough info to determine exactly where the differences lie and what the implications are, but the retarded idea that men and women have identical brains is some old post-modern garbage.
You should run for Most sensitive retard in the world
I get that you didn't know that brains are structured differently based on gender but it's hilarious that you think I was targeting you specifically by suggesting it's absurd to assume that men and women's brains are equal.
Have you ever maybe thought that Hollywood is so racist that they’d rather white wash/erase diverse characters solely for money?
I love that you're almost self aware here. They don't white wash because they're racist, they do it to make money
The movie was about specifically about a trans man, so literally what sense does it make to cast a woman?
Yea just like suicide squad. The movie was about super villains and they casted normal people! It's almost like actors can pretend to be something they're not.
So that people can continue to call trans men woman and trans women men?
No you idpol obsessed moron because she is famous and would make them lots of money
They don't whitewash because they're racist, they do it to make money
They seem to whitewash because they overestimate the racism of everyone else tbh. Black Panther made big bucks and the actors they predominately used to promote the movie weren't the two white dudes.
She never said she was a man lmao. She went through no transition. She literally cut her hair short and went by "Tex" and somehow that means she's a man because if you don't like pretty pink dresses you aren't allowed to be a woman anymore apparently.
Who cares if they aren’t a big name? It’s the fact that they skipped over all these trans actors, and don’t care that the person they’re doing a movie about, was very adamant about being referred to and seen as a man. And the first thing they do is get scarlet johasen?
So I guess actors who aren’t big should just quit acting so we can continue to use the same people over and over again.
Why are we so sure a dead person whom we can't ask is trans? And, if she was trans, she hadn't had SRS or hormone therapy so she was physically a woman dressing and acting as a man. So, this would be different than Scarjo dressing and acting like a man how?
She was literally a butch lesbian and dumb trannies are retroactively claiming her now that she can't defend herself. That's what's extra retarded about all this.
Tula. Bond girl ne Barry Cossey. Would have to Google to be sure of the movie, I think it was Octopussy. Career basically crashed when (s)he was outed. As to anyone currently active, I'm clueless.
what do they mean they don't want a women, we ARE WOMEN
I want REAL trans movies where a star Trans can show their daily dilation. I want to see the daily life of a real woman. It's strange no women who I talk to has these behaviors. Its 100% attributed to oppressing NORMAL (and better) behaviors!
Can someone find that post of the trans not-even-trying-to-be-a-woman guy that was going to make it in Hollywood? If they'd cast that guy there would be nationwide trans electrocution therapy in a week.
Yes sadly very true. Calling someone alt-right is a serious and specific accusation, and no-one would ever just toss it around casually to refer to people who disagree with them, especially on Reddit.
Or maybe instead of trying to constantly erase trans people, they could’ve just gotten a male actor.
Because it’s a movie ABOUT a trans MAN.
Having a woman play a trans man just reinforces that trans men are just women and vice versa.
Just look at these shitty comments and the constant use of “tranny” 🙄 But sure, act like you have any idea what these “angry trannies” are talking about.
See the thing is, everybody else in hollywood understands that the way in which movies get made is arcane and weird. And often it relies on getting a bankable or marketable star to get the project off the ground.
Sure, it would be nice if you could get X person to play a role. But if the studio is only going to pay for it if Y person signs a contract to do a bunch of flicks that will actually make them money, well then you just thank your lucky stars that Y is nice enough to do it. Cause otherwise, you get no movie.
You act as if the only way to get movies made is to go through these specific people? Sometimes being accurate and not continuing to fuel ignorant rhetoric and thinking is more important than making money.
Good luck finding a multimillionaire to fund a trans**** movie that will make back maybe 2-4 mill dollars before its forgotten by the group it aims to please since they found a new cause to complain about.
Kinda glad the movie didn't get made tbh, because on the off chance that it was a genuinely mediocre film I would have had to pretend it was amazing. I think saying you didn't like the movie probably qualifies as some form of genocide, I'll have to double check with my local sociology professor on that one.
My friend was up in arms about Scarlett being cast instead of an actual trans actor. I told her I could kinda see why they did it and she bit my head off. I told her it would be risky for the moviemakers to put money on an unknown actor to carry a film about such a controversial topic. And the movie industry is more about making money than anything else. Friend did not like that answer :/
The only way to make the movie to their satisfaction is if the actor literally transitioned on set. Oh wait that's still problematic because I labeled them as an actor.
FX literally has a hit show starring trans people in Pose
/u/mpa10e They literally do not have a "hit show," its ratings are in the dumpster and there's a reason they relegated it to the less desirable summer season, the show is a vanity project for their golden goose Ryan Murphy, because they need to keep that bitchy queen happy so he'll keep shitting money for them.
The average person does not want to watch a show about trannies or get involved in a love story involving a tranny, because it's gross. Sorry, it is. You can't change the average person's visceral reaction to transgenderism and you can't REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE until people magically love trannies. Most people would rather watch a show about normal people, not be beaten over the head with political messages by a freak show cast who they feel no connection to.
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1 SizeOfThisLad 2018-07-18
It's almost as if you could see this exact course of events play out from a mile away.
>Inb4 there's bitching about WELL WHY NOT STILL MAKE THE MOVIE BUT HAVE A TRANS PERSON STAR IN IT, as if ScarJo and her production company were under any sort of affirmative duty to make such a movie out of the goodness of their hearts in the first place.
1 helppls555 2018-07-18
according to them, its scarjos duty to give the money to trans actors so the 0.1% can make their own movie
1 DarkResurgence 2018-07-18
Lol .1? .001 maybe if you're being liberal.
1 shanewater 2018-07-18
And honestly, take a third off because they're passing and literally have zero problems in everyday society unless they're literally doing sex work.
1 daneelr_olivaw 2018-07-18
I think it's 0.001 - around 3000 seems about right. I really doubt that to are more actual trans people, the rest are my mentally ill.
1 TimothyGonzalez 2018-07-18
Yeah I do that, and that's why I am banned in like 100 subreddits. It gets kinda annoying.
1 Erialcnis 2018-07-18
I don’t think many would expect you to, I’m surprised you can even read this much
1 loli_esports 2018-07-18
You are like a little baby. https://i.imgur.com/tZwthzY.png
1 helppls555 2018-07-18
i'm deeply humbled by your presence. one day I hope i can make people REEEEEE like that too
1 oreopocky 2018-07-18
actually its something like .23%
1 SnapshillBot 2018-07-18
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1 911roofer 2018-07-18
They're are no tranny film actors. Trannies are mentally ill. They do nothing but REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE all the time.
1 Erialcnis 2018-07-18
https://m.imdb.com/list/ls072599514/
For people who love to use “reeeeeee” as an insult, you all tend to be doing it the most
1 rnjbond 2018-07-18
Other than the directors of the Matrix, no idea who any of these people are.
1 odintal 2018-07-18
I know the one from Orange is The New Black and Chaz Bono too.
Never heard of the rest of them.
1 dramasexual 2018-07-18
Man, scroll down that page for a who's who of uncanny valley shit.
Holy hell.
1 voicelesshoodwinker 2018-07-18
ScarJo gets abused out of a movie role to which she was casted for promotion, movie gets axed.
WHO COULD HAVE FORSEEN THAT?
1 Voltairium 2018-07-18
Imagine the outrage if someone else from the other side of the political spectrum harassed an actress out of a role due to gender issues
1 Zeriell 2018-07-18
The irony is most trannies are men.
1 DarkResurgence 2018-07-18
Hey. That IS irony.
1 TheEnglishman28 2018-07-18
Why does bussy have to be so retarded?
1 Admins_Suck_Dick 2018-07-18
Turns out being women is just one more thing that men are better then women at.
1 parameciidae 2018-07-18
Yeah, better at REEEEEing.
1 stickleroflove 2018-07-18
i feel like ur talkin 2 urself
1 parameciidae 2018-07-18
😠REEEEEEEE
1 Kinderqueer 2018-07-18
He did say "being women"
1 parameciidae 2018-07-18
🤣🤣🤣😐
1 JonRedcorn862 2018-07-18
Than.
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-07-18
WHITE men REEEE.
Seriously tho.... what percentage of trannies are black??? 🤔
1 Daxx46 2018-07-18
Alive or dead?
Because most living trans people are white, but based on the insane suicide statistics that might be for sad reasons...
1 zenicaone 2018-07-18
gay men, and specific kind of gay men, that even regular gay men "no thx, pass"
1 Alexlincoln2 2018-07-18
wait I thought most trans people were transmen, aka women?
1 sh0t 2018-07-18
Trans-Identifying-Males, who don't want to date other Trans-identifying-males and would rather pressure lesbians into sleeping with them.
1 NardDogAndy 2018-07-18
The funny thing about this is that they'll be less likely to even try making movies about trannies in the future because they're worried about getting harassed by angry trannies who want to destroy their careers.
1 TimothyGonzalez 2018-07-18
Exactly. Just like every time I hear some black person freak out over imaginary hyper-subtle racism, it makes me that much more likely to choose not to engage a black person I meet by chance in daily life. I once had one shout at me aggressively because I used the term "Nigerian scam". At one point im gonna just not bother.
1 Shitposting_Skeleton 2018-07-18
That guy might have actually been Nigerian though. There's a lot of them on H1 visas.
1 TimothyGonzalez 2018-07-18
Yeah she was, so what? She was so problematic at work, she had to be fired. She was constantly bitching, getting aggressive with people. If you'd ask her to do a simple task she would sometimes just say "No.", and she was constantly accusing everyone of being racist in a deeply bitter way. One time somebody asked her "Where her heritage was from", or some tip-toeing bullshit trying to find out where in Africa her family was from. She laughed mockingly and repeated "My heritage?". I mean, bitch, she is falling over herself to not offend you and then THAT is causing you offense?
She was the epitomisation of how this mania about racism drives a wedge between people.
1 TimothyGonzalez 2018-07-18
Couldn't they just pick one of the many high-profile, hugely talented trans actors in Hollywoo- oh, wait...
1 DoubleDexter64 2018-07-18
They don’t have to be high profile you fucking drama bigot. They just have to be a talented trans act... wait
1 TimothyGonzalez 2018-07-18
Well we could just settle for one who is not mentally il... Oh
1 o11c 2018-07-18
I hate to seriouspost, but ... at least half of trans people don't have any known mental conditions.
1 TimothyGonzalez 2018-07-18
Apart from believing that they are a different gender than they in they are in the real world of course
1 ENKC 2018-07-18
That isn't a mental illness. Gender is a complex issue scientifically even without getting into social aspects.
1 Shark_lifes_Dad 2018-07-18
Complex for retards like you.
1 ENKC 2018-07-18
Straight to the insult. Amazing discussion technique you have there.
1 Daxx46 2018-07-18
It currently is, but the fact is we don't have anywhere near enough information to accurately classify it
To be honest though I don't quite understand how it couldn't be considered mental illness. Anything that requires medical treatment is an illness and gender dysphoria has a pretty intensive treatment schedule.
1 TimothyGonzalez 2018-07-18
The only way in which it isn't a mental illness is that the medical field has been dragged along in the insanity.
1 vereonix 2018-07-18
Just because you keep saying its a complex issue doesn't make it so.
Its not complex scientifically, for hundreds of thousands of years we've been identifying ourselves, others, and animals as male/female boys & girls. It is not complex. Unless you're born intersex with both genitalia its clear cut, and even then intersex are always predominately male or female in their characteristics and clear which is the dominant sex within them.
As for social, that makes your science point mute. If gender is a social thing then why do people feel body dysphoria? If its a social/cultural thing why do they want to mutilate their body to have a body part which supports the clear cut scientific view of sex/gender.... "I'm really a boy so I want a penis..." if having a penis == boy then why do they want one etc. etc.
Mental Illness.
1 ENKC 2018-07-18
What relevance does what we've been doing for hundreds of thousands of years have to current scientific understanding?
1 vereonix 2018-07-18
Because why is it now all of a sudden complex, and an issue...
Stop trying to make it an issue. Go back 1000 or 100 years and this wasn't a problem.
Please enlighten me how there is an issue with reality that penis = boy and vagina = girl? And explain why you want there to be an issue, because if you disagree with what I've said (which is how reality works, and causes no issues) it means you want conflict.
1 ENKC 2018-07-18
Because science has more understanding of these matters than it did 1,000 or 100 years ago. As we do about the world not being flat or the centre of the universe. The advance of scientific knowledge has nothing to do with 'wanting conflict'.
1 vereonix 2018-07-18
So people 1000 years ago didn't know if they themselves we're a boy or a girl? We're talking about words and their definitions we gave them, it's not about better scientific understanding as "boy" and "girl" etc. were made as terms simply based on genetalia...
Are you going to tell me that Michelangelo's David is actually a dipiction of a women? Or that if we found out that we've been reading chromosomes wrong that now Keanu Reeves is actually female and Scarlett Johnson is male? Just cuz what we thought was an X is actually a Y etc.
And again this gets to the conflict between science and social. If it's a social construct who cares what science says? It's then totally subjective, science can clearly say you're a guy, but nope you socially identify as a hedgehog... Or if it's based in science then we have the guide lines in biology with genetalia and chromesomes.
So I ask again, what is wrong with penis = boy, and vagina = girl? And if you disagree why do you want to cause conflict, as we have words and definitions that you're trying to fuck up and make more complex than they are. You can't even define what you define a boy/girl or male/female as, yet you're advocating that my reasoning and definitions are wrong.
1 ENKC 2018-07-18
'Or if it's based in science then we have the guide lines in biology with genetalia and chromesomes.'
And that's the point. Biological science has identified numerous cases that don't fit an easy sex dichotomy based on genitalia or chromosomes. There are people who have XXY, XYY, XXX, and XO chromosomal combinations, for example. There are people who have varying combinations of internal and external sexual organs which are both male and female. And that's without touching neuroscience.
The fact that this complexity exists and that science studies it in order better to understand it is not cause to be afraid or go into attack mode. There's no need to frame any of this in terms of 'conflict'.
1 Matthew1J 2018-07-18
No. Some societies pretend it isn't a mental illness because it would be too mean to trannies...
1 ENKC 2018-07-18
You're stating an ideological position, not a scientifically valid one.
1 Matthew1J 2018-07-18
I am stating observable reality... Not "an ideological position" or "a scientific truth".
1 the_popcorn_pisser 2018-07-18
If mayos can get made fun of here, so does everyone else. Thought that was the point of equality, and I’m not even a mayo.
1 shallowm 2018-07-18
this comment reeks of butthurt mayo
1 the_popcorn_pisser 2018-07-18
nah, I'm jus an equal opportunity bully.
1 spooksterdookster 2018-07-18
I hate to seriouspost, but ... which half?
1 o11c 2018-07-18
The ones who never cause drama.
1 spooksterdookster 2018-07-18
mfw everyone in /r/drama is a tranny retard
1 Alexlincoln2 2018-07-18
other than suicidal ideation and a desire to change their body structure
1 o11c 2018-07-18
I'm explicitly talking about the ones who don't ever think about suicide.
1 dramasexual 2018-07-18
anyone who ain't got crippling dysphoria isn't trans tbqhwufamiglia
Also given the 41% attempt rate, I highly doubt "at least half" don't have another illness on top of delusions about gender.
1 gumble212 2018-07-18
lol real high bar you set
1 Voltairium 2018-07-18
The way that media, both on the left and right, handles trans issues is laughable
1 nmx179 2018-07-18
Does the world really need a shitty movie full of Scarlett Johannsen unconvincingly portraying a transsexual man? Didn't the angry trans people do everyone a favor this time around?
1 helppls555 2018-07-18
i totally agree with you, but dont tell them i said that
1 dramasexual 2018-07-18
I honestly wanted to see how she'd do it tbh. Like can you imagine ScarJo in drag? I'd have gone to see it just for that tbh.
1 pozzedshill 2018-07-18
She's just a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude!
1 AlwaysFeral 2018-07-18
Bussyception
1 muck4doo 2018-07-18
Victor Victoria. It's been done before decades ago.
1 lifesbrink 2018-07-18
Nope, it would have fed my ScarJo with a bussy fantasy
1 somercet 2018-07-18
You missspelled "feminine benis."
1 reallyrunningnow 2018-07-18
Femis
1 mcslibbin 2018-07-18
but your secret name shall be
david duke
1 zenicaone 2018-07-18
but imagine millions of mayos getting out after watching the movie, and deciding that they will try to hookup with a tranny, with idea of Scarlett Johannsen looking tranny in their mind.
1 OniTan 2018-07-18
Only to find nothing but linebackers in dresses.
1 MelissaClick 2018-07-18
She was going to be ftm trans in the movie, not mtf.
1 OniTan 2018-07-18
Well yeah, but my point still stands.
1 MelissaClick 2018-07-18
I don't see how it does.
1 OniTan 2018-07-18
Ever seen Chaz Bono?
1 MelissaClick 2018-07-18
Never heard of Chaz Bono before but I have seen some pics now.
1 GuillotinesNOW 2018-07-18
tbf I've seen pics of the trap she was supposed to play and they looked like an old lady in a man's clothes, so being unconvincing seems about right.
1 ItsSilverFoxYouIdiot 2018-07-18
Does no one remember Transamerica? Felicity Huffman played a sympathetic trans woman in 2005. It won a ton of awards, made $15 million on its $1 million budget, LGBTOMGTFWTFBBQs shouting how great it was. Scarlet Bojangles seemed to be on track to make that movie times 10, but now that's not enough.
1 MemoirsofCrime 2018-07-18
Times are a changing my buddy old friend. You see , what once was toast is now buttered toast and soon it will be eaten. We are at the buttery stage right now with extra honey applied. It's so sweet just before the kill.
1 Cdace 2018-07-18
u/v_is_one_person can we ban shitty food analogies here? Preferably replace them with dinosaur 🦖 analogies
1 niggerpenis 2018-07-18
As a 93 mile wide meteor plummets directly towards Rexico the dinosaurs dress up in fursuits and pretend to be mammals.
1 SlendyIsBehindYou 2018-07-18
Fortnite Season 6 sounds lit
1 Red-Lantern 2018-07-18
/r/SonOfAShepherd
1 Ace4929 2018-07-18
Ed is that you?
1 OniTan 2018-07-18
That was before the ouroboros reached back and bit its own tail.
1 somercet 2018-07-18
No, they bitched about Felicity, too. They're just louder now.
Best line in TA:
"You're the one who's gonna get his dick cut off!"
"They don't cut it off. They just turn an outie into an innie."
distressed realization "Gross..."
1 chumthescrubber 2018-07-18
That was such a great movie. That truck stop scene though
1 zenicaone 2018-07-18
yeah but that was waaaaay back in 2005. ancient history xze.
1 aqouta 2018-07-18
Imagine caring if broke back mountain was stared by straights,
1 OscarGrey 2018-07-18
I'm sure that there's a dozen recently written articles floating around on the net that explain why Brokeback Mountain was actually miscasted.
1 neoaoshi 2018-07-18
I’ll do you one more recent, The Danish Girl.
1 Ultrashitposter 2018-07-18
Any movie with Eddie Redmayne in it is miscast. The only thing he should be starring is an obituary.
1 Matthew94 2018-07-18
starred
1 IntenseProctologist 2018-07-18
I've been really curious about the hordes of great trans actors that people talk about when this topic comes up. Does anyone know of some movies with some of these actors in them? I just want to see who these people are tbh.
1 AlwaysFeral 2018-07-18
The guy who failed to shoot Vincent Vega and Jules Winnfield with that giant revolver in Pulp Fiction eventually went on to be trans and die.
Other than that, I got nothing.
1 Division_Ruine 2018-07-18
I just finished watching a showtime series called "Billions" that has a trans(?) person acting as a super smart trans person. Taylor Mason is the character's name, not sure who the actor is.
1 SmugSocialistTears 2018-07-18
Orange is the New Black is an obvious example as well
1 0987654231 2018-07-18
It's the same actor in both
1 bozo_merkin 2018-07-18
All minority parts are "themselves, but super smart."
GOLDEN AGE
1 zergling_Lester 2018-07-18
Ableist tbh. We need more movies with completely retarded minorities.
1 Erialcnis 2018-07-18
They aren’t a “smart trans person”
They’re playing a super smart person who happens to me trans.
1 Alexlincoln2 2018-07-18
So, like a smart person who just happens to have autism right?
1 dramasexual 2018-07-18
That's a "smart trans person" numbnuts.
1 Daxx46 2018-07-18
They're playing a super smart animal that happens to be a person that happens to be trans.
Get it right shitlord.
1 rnjbond 2018-07-18
Asia Kate Dillon and not trans, she's a woman who got a buzzcut and calls herself non binary
1 Erialcnis 2018-07-18
https://m.imdb.com/list/ls072599514/
There’s quite a few
1 LawsCoolStudent 2018-07-18
Wait, what the hell? The Wachowski brothers both transitioned to women? First of all, the chances that two brothers are both trans are so slim, but the added irony that they were collectively referred to as the "Wachowski brothers" is hilarious now in retrospect. I can't believe this wasn't more publicized, I never once heard about it.
1 dramaac 2018-07-18
It was hugely publicized and everyone knew about it.
1 LowsideSlide 2018-07-18
Their Wikipedia article even has a note made after many edit wars saying that the movies should be credited to the name/gender they were at the time and not retroactively credited to their woman names.
1 dramasexual 2018-07-18
I heard about it. Mostly from other disgusted people tbh.
1 EternallyMiffed 2018-07-18
Switch (the chick in white from the first matrix movie) was supposed to be trans, woman in the matrix and a dude irl. But the studio nipped that in the bud in the last moment.
1 TombFBT 2018-07-18
A shame, since the Matrix makes it clear early on you appear in the simulation as you perceive yourself to be. This would ctually be a good way of putting in a topic like this in a movie without shoehorning it.
1 die_rattin 2018-07-18
Even better: the Wachowskis frequented a famous SF dominatrix whose thing is apparently ‘encouraging’ people to transition (e.g. Buck Angel is one of her exes) shortly before deciding to go MtF, Lana’s still with her IIRC
Hollywood people are weird
1 EternallyMiffed 2018-07-18
lel
1 JonRedcorn862 2018-07-18
Wonder how many show bussy. Also the female to male converts look like real people.
1 Che_Gueporna 2018-07-18
Honestly, i'm wondering if the whole thing was a ploy by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Clayton agent to get her work.
Also, tons of trans porn stars, pretty sure they could snag one of those.
1 bugslife22112 2018-07-18
Hollywood has been embracing the idea that representation matters for the last several years, this is just the logical extension of that.
1 King_Drumpf 2018-07-18
These people would have shut down tons of films about gay people just because the actors weren't gay.
1 DoctorFahrenheit 2018-07-18
And the world would be a better place
1 CarnistHappyCamp 2018-07-18
we should have been so lucky
1 loli_esports 2018-07-18
Don’t 👏 play 👏 harvey 👏 milk 👏 unless 👏 you 👏 came 👏 from 👏 a 👏 cow 👏
1 Gil-Gandel 2018-07-18
Don't recollect them picketing Rock Hudson movies when he was masquerading as a straight man.
1 pozzedshill 2018-07-18
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
1 80BAIT08 2018-07-18
Trannie movie not being made now. Win for everyone.
1 pozzedshill 2018-07-18
Tranny drama is the best. It is not often that God provides you an opponent that is so spectacularly insane.
1 EdLesliesBarber 2018-07-18
Can’t believe they let Sandra Bullock play an astronaut bitch never even been to space.
1 aef823 2018-07-18
I will never understand the autists wanting something done within seconds instead of shit being done gradually by random people who'll benefit from it.
Like, do they not know how reality works? Did they think slavery was magically over when Lincoln went all no on it, instead of getting shot for even attempting it?
1 SmugSocialistTears 2018-07-18
i think we all know the answer to that
1 crudehumourisdivine 2018-07-18
extremists hate compromise, whod have guessed
1 dramasexual 2018-07-18
...they're trannies fam. Not knowing how reality works is their primary feature.
1 PoorLilMarco 2018-07-18
womp womp
1 32624647 2018-07-18
HOW DARE YOU
1 Kinderqueer 2018-07-18
I actually wanted ScarJo to represent me. The queer community can be so infuriating sometimes.
1 Mabans 2018-07-18
How dare you try to help homeless without being homeless yourself you rich slut!!
1 michgot 2018-07-18
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1 GuillotinesNOW 2018-07-18
I heard that Mark Hamill never fought in a real star war.
George Lucas should have given that job to a space veteran.
1 k0bra3eak 2018-07-18
Space Force members should be populating the next Star Wars
1 ineedmorealts 2018-07-18
u/lifeonthegrid
She could but why? The whole point of acting is to pretend to be something you're not. Why bother tracking down some no name trans actor just so the movie can flop?
u/mike_gainor
Name one trans actor without googling. I bet even you can name one they're some total unknown that the average person has never heard about
No they won't. Because any actor can play a trans person. There's no need to go and track down a trans actor
u/mirestuck
Yea because the world is just drowning in big name good actors who are also trans right?
1 mike_gainor 2018-07-18
Yes, because their roles are all going to Scarlett Johanssons. That's the whole point, you fucking idiot.
1 RealJackAnchor 2018-07-18
Because she's a marketable star and a sex symbol?
Why do people not understand that these people get the roles they get because they're proven commodities that will sell.
It's almost like a subset of the population won't put butts in seats. And Laverne Cox. I don't even care for this tranny shit and even I could name a trans actor. Step ya game up.
1 ineedmorealts 2018-07-18
/s?
Lol no. The reason that there isn't a bunch of trans actors is because there's almost no trans people. They make up like .3% of the population.
1 MelissaClick 2018-07-18
On top of that, trannies are ugly and actors need above all to look good.
There are a tiny number of movies about trannies where their particular form of "ugly" actually helps the film but maybe like one or two people max could make a career out of staring in every tranny flick, except that wouldn't even work because people would get sick of it.
1 DeathBahamutXXX 2018-07-18
So you are saying besides this role ScarJo has stolen more FtM trans roles?
Also
1 istural 2018-07-18
Maybe, just maybe,. They aren’t entitled to their roles?
Have you considered the fact that if there were good trans actors, that they would have got the role instead of Scarlett Johansson?
1 Erialcnis 2018-07-18
Have you ever maybe thought that Hollywood is so racist that they’d rather white wash/erase diverse characters solely for money?
The movie was about specifically about a trans man, so literally what sense does it make to cast a woman? So that people can continue to call trans men woman and trans women men?
Learn how to use your brain.
1 Chanchumaetrius 2018-07-18
but gender is fake, so she can play any gender
1 parameciidae 2018-07-18
Right? She should have come out and said she was gender fluid and she was going to self ID as a trans man during filming. It would have been hilarious.
1 shallowm 2018-07-18
social construct ≠ "fake"
1 Daxx46 2018-07-18
There's growing evidence that gender isn't even a social construct, it's a neurological fact
At this point there isn't anywhere near enough info to determine exactly where the differences lie and what the implications are, but the retarded idea that men and women have identical brains is some old post-modern garbage.
1 shallowm 2018-07-18
a
1 Daxx46 2018-07-18
Your imagination is very impressive, you must be proud.
No one said that here
1 shallowm 2018-07-18
It doesn't have to be "here" for someone to make a reference to it.
1 Daxx46 2018-07-18
You should run for Most sensitive retard in the world
I get that you didn't know that brains are structured differently based on gender but it's hilarious that you think I was targeting you specifically by suggesting it's absurd to assume that men and women's brains are equal.
1 shallowm 2018-07-18
Your imagination is very impressive, you must be proud.
I never said they weren't here
1 Aivias 2018-07-18
I bet his/her/its trussy is really sore after that pounding you just gave it
1 istural 2018-07-18
Can I ask you a question?
Why is it wrong for Hollywood to aspire to make money on their movies instead of taking a risk? Whom does it harm in a concrete way?
1 ineedmorealts 2018-07-18
I love that you're almost self aware here. They don't white wash because they're racist, they do it to make money
Yea just like suicide squad. The movie was about super villains and they casted normal people! It's almost like actors can pretend to be something they're not.
No you idpol obsessed moron because she is famous and would make them lots of money
1 Erialcnis 2018-07-18
By continuing to skip over and erase trans people?
1 Daxx46 2018-07-18
They seem to whitewash because they overestimate the racism of everyone else tbh. Black Panther made big bucks and the actors they predominately used to promote the movie weren't the two white dudes.
1 dramasexual 2018-07-18
The movie isn't about a trans man. It's about a butch lesbian that you guys have decided to erase after her death.
1 Erialcnis 2018-07-18
It’s literally about a trans man. Who adamantly said multiple how they are a man.
1 dramasexual 2018-07-18
She never said she was a man lmao. She went through no transition. She literally cut her hair short and went by "Tex" and somehow that means she's a man because if you don't like pretty pink dresses you aren't allowed to be a woman anymore apparently.
1 Alexlincoln2 2018-07-18
Name one person who became famous (A lister) for playing a person with severe enough gender dysphoria to warrant surgical removal of healthy tissue?
1 Erialcnis 2018-07-18
https://m.imdb.com/list/ls072599514/
1 ineedmorealts 2018-07-18
The Wachowskis are both trans? Neat.
Also you kind proved my point here, none of those people are big names that can draw in an audience.
1 Erialcnis 2018-07-18
Who cares if they aren’t a big name? It’s the fact that they skipped over all these trans actors, and don’t care that the person they’re doing a movie about, was very adamant about being referred to and seen as a man. And the first thing they do is get scarlet johasen?
So I guess actors who aren’t big should just quit acting so we can continue to use the same people over and over again.
1 ineedmorealts 2018-07-18
The people who want to make money off this film.
Yea, because despite her total lack of talent she puts asses in seats
Because that's totally what I said
1 parameciidae 2018-07-18
Why are we so sure a dead person whom we can't ask is trans? And, if she was trans, she hadn't had SRS or hormone therapy so she was physically a woman dressing and acting as a man. So, this would be different than Scarjo dressing and acting like a man how?
1 dramasexual 2018-07-18
She was literally a butch lesbian and dumb trannies are retroactively claiming her now that she can't defend herself. That's what's extra retarded about all this.
1 sh0t 2018-07-18
Not the first time
1 Alexlincoln2 2018-07-18
I see someone doesn't know how to run a business. Also stop link posting you boring clod
1 oreopocky 2018-07-18
BIG NAME
1 Gil-Gandel 2018-07-18
Tula. Bond girl ne Barry Cossey. Would have to Google to be sure of the movie, I think it was Octopussy. Career basically crashed when (s)he was outed. As to anyone currently active, I'm clueless.
1 Lezzymclezface 2018-07-18
It was to be the first studio movie of it’s kind, they shut it down, now they mad. Stay mad creeps.
1 Diedjies 2018-07-18
I didn't read the thread, but I'm happy they wont bring back the Transformers franchise, even with Scarjo in it. She ruins any sci-fi movie anyway.
1 triplehardvark 2018-07-18
a bunch of rich, successful trannies will take over the project surely
1 Wraith_GraveSpell 2018-07-18
Wait, you mean to tell me Tom Hanks doesnt have AIDS and Philadephia won awards? It's time to fucking riot.
1 Stillwellstillhere 2018-07-18
I want REAL trans movies where a star Trans can show their daily dilation. I want to see the daily life of a real woman. It's strange no women who I talk to has these behaviors. Its 100% attributed to oppressing NORMAL (and better) behaviors!
everyoneistrans
resist
1 73696D756C6174696F6E 2018-07-18
Can someone find that post of the trans not-even-trying-to-be-a-woman guy that was going to make it in Hollywood? If they'd cast that guy there would be nationwide trans electrocution therapy in a week.
1 Scramble187 2018-07-18
I’ve been informed by that thread that /r/drama is alt-right. Is this true?
1 32624647 2018-07-18
Yes... from a certain point of view.
1 spliffthespaceman 2018-07-18
No, we’re only pretending to be retarded.
1 JoeFalchetto 2018-07-18
Both our usernames are alter egos of comic strip characters.
1 its_never_lupus 2018-07-18
Yes sadly very true. Calling someone alt-right is a serious and specific accusation, and no-one would ever just toss it around casually to refer to people who disagree with them, especially on Reddit.
1 gusbyinebriation 2018-07-18
If you ask the alt-right subs, everyone here is just a bunch of snowflakes.
1 shallowm 2018-07-18
a
1 Daxx46 2018-07-18
the only position the /r/drama consistently seems to agree on is "fuck identity politics"
So you wont find any overt appreciation for alt-right ideas, and white nationalists are routinely bullied for giggles.
1 xcallmesunshine 2018-07-18
Gonna serious answer: yes and no. Pretty much everybody gets made fun of - left or right.
1 TheCodexx 2018-07-18
Amazing how people who dress up like other people get mad at actors for dressing up like them.
1 Erialcnis 2018-07-18
Or maybe instead of trying to constantly erase trans people, they could’ve just gotten a male actor.
Because it’s a movie ABOUT a trans MAN.
Having a woman play a trans man just reinforces that trans men are just women and vice versa.
Just look at these shitty comments and the constant use of “tranny” 🙄 But sure, act like you have any idea what these “angry trannies” are talking about.
1 SizeOfThisLad 2018-07-18
I'm all too aware of you.
That's not what others are saying.
This sub also calls white people "mayos" and advocates for the mayocide, what's your point?
1 Erialcnis 2018-07-18
All too aware of me? What?
“That’s not what others are saying”
I’m pretty sure that’s what a lot of people are saying.
“This sub also calls white people "mayos" and advocates for the mayocide, what's your point?”
I don’t see how this example helps your case at all
1 ineedmorealts 2018-07-18
Then you're hopelessly retarded
1 InternalCartographer 2018-07-18
Trans men are women.
1 Erialcnis 2018-07-18
I almost cut myself on all that edge.
1 InternalCartographer 2018-07-18
I was being 100% serious and not edgy.
1 astralparadox 2018-07-18
Lol, okay bud
1 Alexlincoln2 2018-07-18
Once again, How is that edgy?
1 Alexlincoln2 2018-07-18
How is that edgy?
1 inkoDe 2018-07-18
Good or bad that's the popular stance. Not the edgy one.
1 Che_Gueporna 2018-07-18
See the thing is, everybody else in hollywood understands that the way in which movies get made is arcane and weird. And often it relies on getting a bankable or marketable star to get the project off the ground.
Sure, it would be nice if you could get X person to play a role. But if the studio is only going to pay for it if Y person signs a contract to do a bunch of flicks that will actually make them money, well then you just thank your lucky stars that Y is nice enough to do it. Cause otherwise, you get no movie.
1 Erialcnis 2018-07-18
You act as if the only way to get movies made is to go through these specific people? Sometimes being accurate and not continuing to fuel ignorant rhetoric and thinking is more important than making money.
1 loli_esports 2018-07-18
Good luck finding a multimillionaire to fund a trans**** movie that will make back maybe 2-4 mill dollars before its forgotten by the group it aims to please since they found a new cause to complain about.
1 Che_Gueporna 2018-07-18
Then make the movie yourself and don't whine about how other people finance their projects.
1 Aivias 2018-07-18
Jews confirmed for witches.
1 ineedmorealts 2018-07-18
Sure they coulda, but this was just ScarJo fishing for an Oscar so of course they didn't cast someone who wasn't her
Yea I know it's great Oscar bait.
No it doesn't.
1 Alexlincoln2 2018-07-18
well transmen aren't men anymore, but they aren't women either. They are simply future pig feed. Is that an acceptable gender?
1 dramasexual 2018-07-18
It literally doesn't. Straight actors play gay characters, does it "reinforce that gay people are all straight"?
Also, trans men are and always will be women. But that's a separate issue.
1 Aivias 2018-07-18
Fire up the chambers boys!
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-07-18
Ayyy lmaooo
1 WorldStarCroCop 2018-07-18
meanwhile half of these homos are too pussy to give themselves the axe
1 Dawknight 2018-07-18
hahahahahahahaha
1 Throwawayonsteroids 2018-07-18
Kinda glad the movie didn't get made tbh, because on the off chance that it was a genuinely mediocre film I would have had to pretend it was amazing. I think saying you didn't like the movie probably qualifies as some form of genocide, I'll have to double check with my local sociology professor on that one.
1 slothwhispererr 2018-07-18
My friend was up in arms about Scarlett being cast instead of an actual trans actor. I told her I could kinda see why they did it and she bit my head off. I told her it would be risky for the moviemakers to put money on an unknown actor to carry a film about such a controversial topic. And the movie industry is more about making money than anything else. Friend did not like that answer :/
1 SizeOfThisLad 2018-07-18
Your friend sounds like a hysterical retard tbqh
1 nanonan 2018-07-18
The only way to make the movie to their satisfaction is if the actor literally transitioned on set. Oh wait that's still problematic because I labeled them as an actor.
1 shallowm 2018-07-18
Why did she pull out of the movie though? Sure, she was getting a lot of criticism, but why didn't she just ignore the REEing?
1 die_rattin 2018-07-18
Niche audience and oscar bait, the outcry means it’s basically guaranteed to lose money and won’t win any awards
1 muck4doo 2018-07-18
Does no one remember 'victor VICTORIA"? This shit was done over 30 years ago.
1 Time_to_Drink 2018-07-18
I feel like toast
1 StatisticalImperativ 2018-07-18
Like clockwork
1 cdminnie 2018-07-18
Movies with killers in it should only cast actual killers
1 QueenOfTheIncels 2018-07-18
/u/mpa10e They literally do not have a "hit show," its ratings are in the dumpster and there's a reason they relegated it to the less desirable summer season, the show is a vanity project for their golden goose Ryan Murphy, because they need to keep that bitchy queen happy so he'll keep shitting money for them.
The average person does not want to watch a show about trannies or get involved in a love story involving a tranny, because it's gross. Sorry, it is. You can't change the average person's visceral reaction to transgenderism and you can't REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE until people magically love trannies. Most people would rather watch a show about normal people, not be beaten over the head with political messages by a freak show cast who they feel no connection to.