My Aunt is a CPA, and she uses TurboTax to do her taxes.
She also does my taxes sometimes in exchange for a good dinner. You really don't need a professional tax preparer unless you're running a business or something.
Like we're in an economic boom why the hell are we still stoking the fire? Are these people clinically retarded? They just want money, greedy fucks. They don't care that it's essentially the government taking on debt for them. It should be a constitutional amendment, tax breaks aren't allowed without budget cuts. God I can't wait until we soak the rich.
It’s not about how much they need it’s about what gives me the right to take from someone something that they earned? Why should they be penalized for their success. Jeff Bezos or Zuckerberg could use that capital to finance a ton of new innovations where as the government will just burn it.
DAE TAXES ARE THEFT?! Of course they earned it, however there are diminishing returns when you attain so much wealth. Someone who 'only' has 10 billion dollars and someone with 20+ billion dollars. Their difference in quality of life is almost negligible despite the fact that one is worth twice the other. A billion dollars could make anyone live comfortably easily. Whereas someone who makes about 20k/year and one who makes 40k/year. Their quality of life is worlds apart. The one with 40k has so much more disposable income and probably has access to things like quality healthcare and dental care.
could use that capital to finance a ton of new innovations where as the government will just burn it.
Like what innovations? Give me an example of reinvesting that money. They're doing a poor job at investing that capital if they have billions just stagnating.
I doubt any billionaire actually has a bank account with $20 billion dollars in it. The money goes places. I mean given a flat tax someone with $20 billion is paying significantly more than someone with $10 billion. I just don’t really see the justification In the government taking any more money from people. We don’t need more taxes we need less government spending.
Fine worth or whatever metric you wish. You seem to agree that the QoL is still neglible since you haven't addressed that point.
The money goes places.
Can you give a few specific examples instead of being intentionally vague other than the one I just addressed?
I just don’t really see the justification In the government taking any more money from people.
The government is underfunded and overspending. Thanks to the recent tax cuts the gap is even larger. To make matters worse the republicans are making no attempts to balance the budget (like increasing taxes or decreasing spending).
I agree with you, the US should decrease spending, but probably not in the same way. I think the military is heavily over bloated. I think we should foster better education to help break the poverty cycles by funding more and better schools. I think healthcare needs a major reform.
Maybe someone like Elon musk and similar billionaires who are pioneering private space flights i would much rather money going to them than ineffective government programs. I think the government is overfunded and overspending cut all the entitlements and cut everyone’s taxes and problems solved.
Elon Musk is one of few people who actually reinvests his money into his company. What about the billionaires who don't?
Curious that you call them ineffectual. Which programs in particular other than the ones mentioned previously? Are governments in other countries ineffectual as well e.g. Europe and Canada. What are the shortfalls of these programs in particular?
I can’t name any government organization that spends money more efficiently than an equivalent private organization. I don’t know what policies specifically from Europe or Canada could be reasonably applied to a country the size of the United States. I don’t think these programs scale well when you compare population dynamics between the US and a European socialist paradise like Sweden or Denmark. A country like Denmark has a population like half of NYC.
I can’t name any government organization that spends money more efficiently than an equivalent private organization.
You can't seem to be able to name a private organization that does better either. Do you know what causes government programs to be so inefficient?
I don’t know what policies specifically from Europe or Canada could be reasonably applied to a country the size of the United States.
Do you have sources or citations saying so? What do you mean by population dynamics?
You again ignored another question. What of the poor? Are they just left out on their own? What about their children who benefit from entitlements such as child benefits?
Umm every private organization is based on making more money than they take in so I’d say they’re all better.
Population dynamics literally every aspect of the population age, race, culture, size , distribution is drastically different in America than it is in Sweden.
Poor people do better when they aren’t hobbled by government programs.
This is exactly why it would be worse to have private companies take over. They don't have your best interests at heart. Whereas governments (depending which party is in power) do. You don't think there would be some cut backs in order to increase their profit margins?
> Population dynamics literally every aspect of the population age, race, culture, size , distribution is drastically different in America than it is in Sweden.
Here's the demographics of America and Sweden. The differences in age. sex and dependency ratio (with the exception of elderly with the United States having a lower elderly dependency) negligible. Sweden has a slightly higher migrant ratio with ~1 extra person. The only difference is skin colour. There is no difference.
> Poor people do better when they aren’t hobbled by government programs.
How do these programs hobble them when they're explicitly designed to help improve their economic standing?
My life had been improved by private companies 100x over than it has been improved by government programs.
Sweden has like 5 million people and they’re all white an insane tax rate that would kill every corporation in America and is entirely protected by the United States military. So It’s not quite the same.
Any assistance to any abled body person just engages them in a cycle of dependency on the government.
My life had been improved by private companies 100x over than it has been improved by government programs.
Okay, how? And you're only one person, anecdotes mean shit when you're talking about the population of the US.
Sweden has like 5 million people and they’re all white an insane tax rate that would kill every corporation in America and is entirely protected by the United States military. So It’s not quite the same.
Are whites somehow more preferable? That's why we tax based on net income for corporations. This would encourage reinvestment into the company itself and its employees rather than hoarding wealth. The individual people would of course be taxed based on their income as well.
Any assistance to any abled body person just engages them in a cycle of dependency on the government.
Can you explain how? What if someone is living to paycheck to paycheck and even that is not enough so they require food stamps. How would someone like that survive? 61% of the population don't even have an emergency fund to subsist off of for even 6 months. So without things such as unemployment or food stamps, what are they expected to do if they get fired or their company closes? Don't make me laugh and say immediately find a job. The point is these programs are temporary measures so that in cases such as where someone is living paycheck to paycheck they can be able to take time off work to actually search for better jobs.
Life improvements from private companies I don’t know cell phones, the fact that every piece of information every collected by humanity has been gathered by private organizations and put on the internet for free I really can’t think of anyway the government has improved my life off the top of my head.
Sweden has 3,5 million people Jeff Bezos could fund their entire healthcare system. Why were the the estimates for US single payer system I’d love to know what kind of tax rate is be looking at for a service I don’t need because I’m an adult with health insurance.
No abled body person in America requires food stamps. You show me one I’ll show you someone who can’t budget for shit. Passed that law in Maine and it’s worked great. We have full employment there’s no excuse for anyone to be unemployed.
Do you think private organizations are a double edged sword? e.g. Comcast?
> Sweden has 3,5 million people Jeff Bezos could fund their entire healthcare system. Why were the the estimates for US single payer system I’d love to know what kind of tax rate is be looking at for a service I don’t need because I’m an adult with health insurance.
Jeff Bezos could fund much more than that, unfortunately he's mostly just collected his wealth. I don't know, maybe you should perhaps google it or source your own claims. Also why'd you mention the statistics regarding whites?
> No abled body person in America requires food stamps. You show me one I’ll show you someone who can’t budget for shit. Passed that law in Maine and it’s worked great. We have full employment there’s no excuse for anyone to be unemployed.
I agree we should prevent able bodied people from exploiting the system, I don't think I ever argued for that. It's great that you're doing great now. What would someone do if another recession happened and there are mass layoffs? Did you forget that the 2008 Great Recession was caused by corporations? Do you not think something not unlike JFK's 1960 policy would be needed?
Umm every private organization is based on making more money than they take in so I’d say they’re all better.
Population dynamics literally every aspect of the population age, race, culture, size , distribution is drastically different in America than it is in Sweden.
Poor people do better when they aren’t hobbled by government programs.
46 comments
1 NigNagNug 2018-07-19
You may disagree with his argument, but he put his money where his mouth is.
1 helppls555 2018-07-19
ftfy
1 dramaac 2018-07-19
Looks like I'm wrong and he just posted a google image.
1 kippot 2018-07-19
Lol weak ass centipedo op, post your shit pussy
1 dramaac 2018-07-19
He wasn't asking for my taxes specifically, I was just reading the thread.
1 EOWNERDEAD 2018-07-19
You are all subhuman.
1 BIknkbtKitNwniS 2018-07-19
Are you retarded? He literally posted a link to a Google image search for a tax return.
1 PalKitten22 2018-07-19
Jesus, OP is frighteningly retarded. That link goes to a Google image search.
Delete your account and stay away from computers.
1 dramaac 2018-07-19
I didn't actually even look at it.
There's still some interesting drama in the thread though.
1 kippot 2018-07-19
Weak showing tbh
1 dramaac 2018-07-19
I don't know what that means.
1 EyeseeFN 2018-07-19
It takes a special kind of person to understand what /u/kippot means. Autism levels that shouldn't be attainable.
1 kippot 2018-07-19
Nice of you to think of me, centipedo 😘
1 Agenda_Poster 2018-07-19
Takes an autist to know an autist. You fucking autist.
1 kippot 2018-07-19
It's not my job to educate you, sweaty 😉
1 saddertadder 2018-07-19
AHA I WAS MERELY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED
1 -Mopsus- 2018-07-19
i don't believe you at all
1 2RetardedEven4Drama 2018-07-19
1 cruelandusual 2018-07-19
lol
That entire thread is nothing but millennial NEETS playing make-believe.
1 imissyouseattle 2018-07-19
1 PalKitten22 2018-07-19
How'd I get so rich you ask? For starters, by paying $500 for a guy in a suit to fill in forms for me.
1 watermark02 2018-07-19
My dad is 60, makes six figures and uses turbotax.
1 Pol_Pots_Crockpot 2018-07-19
/u/Yuccaphile Bernie would’ve lost worse than Hillary
1 Yuccaphile 2018-07-19
If you turn far enough to the right, you'll be pointing left... I guess.
1 Mikeavelli 2018-07-19
My Aunt is a CPA, and she uses TurboTax to do her taxes.
She also does my taxes sometimes in exchange for a good dinner. You really don't need a professional tax preparer unless you're running a business or something.
1 Greallon 2018-07-19
/u/Yuccaphile this year daddy saved me 2 grand in taxes:
https://imgur.com/T8jzgIO
1 ineedmorealts 2018-07-19
u/tad1611
Imagine living in a country where everything is underfunded and thinking tax cuts are good
1 watermark02 2018-07-19
Like we're in an economic boom why the hell are we still stoking the fire? Are these people clinically retarded? They just want money, greedy fucks. They don't care that it's essentially the government taking on debt for them. It should be a constitutional amendment, tax breaks aren't allowed without budget cuts. God I can't wait until we soak the rich.
1 tad1611 2018-07-19
What does soaking up the rich actually mean? Eliminating everyone creating jobs and innovations that you really on everyday of your life?
1 Infinity315 2018-07-19
You think someone like Bezos or Zuckerberg need 50+ billion?
1 tad1611 2018-07-19
It’s not about how much they need it’s about what gives me the right to take from someone something that they earned? Why should they be penalized for their success. Jeff Bezos or Zuckerberg could use that capital to finance a ton of new innovations where as the government will just burn it.
1 Infinity315 2018-07-19
DAE TAXES ARE THEFT?! Of course they earned it, however there are diminishing returns when you attain so much wealth. Someone who 'only' has 10 billion dollars and someone with 20+ billion dollars. Their difference in quality of life is almost negligible despite the fact that one is worth twice the other. A billion dollars could make anyone live comfortably easily. Whereas someone who makes about 20k/year and one who makes 40k/year. Their quality of life is worlds apart. The one with 40k has so much more disposable income and probably has access to things like quality healthcare and dental care.
Like what innovations? Give me an example of reinvesting that money. They're doing a poor job at investing that capital if they have billions just stagnating.
1 tad1611 2018-07-19
I doubt any billionaire actually has a bank account with $20 billion dollars in it. The money goes places. I mean given a flat tax someone with $20 billion is paying significantly more than someone with $10 billion. I just don’t really see the justification In the government taking any more money from people. We don’t need more taxes we need less government spending.
1 Infinity315 2018-07-19
Fine worth or whatever metric you wish. You seem to agree that the QoL is still neglible since you haven't addressed that point.
Can you give a few specific examples instead of being intentionally vague other than the one I just addressed?
The government is underfunded and overspending. Thanks to the recent tax cuts the gap is even larger. To make matters worse the republicans are making no attempts to balance the budget (like increasing taxes or decreasing spending).
I agree with you, the US should decrease spending, but probably not in the same way. I think the military is heavily over bloated. I think we should foster better education to help break the poverty cycles by funding more and better schools. I think healthcare needs a major reform.
1 tad1611 2018-07-19
Maybe someone like Elon musk and similar billionaires who are pioneering private space flights i would much rather money going to them than ineffective government programs. I think the government is overfunded and overspending cut all the entitlements and cut everyone’s taxes and problems solved.
1 Infinity315 2018-07-19
Elon Musk is one of few people who actually reinvests his money into his company. What about the billionaires who don't?
Curious that you call them ineffectual. Which programs in particular other than the ones mentioned previously? Are governments in other countries ineffectual as well e.g. Europe and Canada. What are the shortfalls of these programs in particular?
1 tad1611 2018-07-19
I can’t name any government organization that spends money more efficiently than an equivalent private organization. I don’t know what policies specifically from Europe or Canada could be reasonably applied to a country the size of the United States. I don’t think these programs scale well when you compare population dynamics between the US and a European socialist paradise like Sweden or Denmark. A country like Denmark has a population like half of NYC.
1 Infinity315 2018-07-19
You can't seem to be able to name a private organization that does better either. Do you know what causes government programs to be so inefficient?
Do you have sources or citations saying so? What do you mean by population dynamics?
You again ignored another question. What of the poor? Are they just left out on their own? What about their children who benefit from entitlements such as child benefits?
1 tad1611 2018-07-19
Umm every private organization is based on making more money than they take in so I’d say they’re all better.
Population dynamics literally every aspect of the population age, race, culture, size , distribution is drastically different in America than it is in Sweden.
Poor people do better when they aren’t hobbled by government programs.
I said cut taxes not eliminate them
1 Infinity315 2018-07-19
> making more money than they take in
This is exactly why it would be worse to have private companies take over. They don't have your best interests at heart. Whereas governments (depending which party is in power) do. You don't think there would be some cut backs in order to increase their profit margins?
> Population dynamics literally every aspect of the population age, race, culture, size , distribution is drastically different in America than it is in Sweden.
Here's the demographics of America and Sweden. The differences in age. sex and dependency ratio (with the exception of elderly with the United States having a lower elderly dependency) negligible. Sweden has a slightly higher migrant ratio with ~1 extra person. The only difference is skin colour. There is no difference.
> Poor people do better when they aren’t hobbled by government programs.
How do these programs hobble them when they're explicitly designed to help improve their economic standing?
1 tad1611 2018-07-19
My life had been improved by private companies 100x over than it has been improved by government programs.
Sweden has like 5 million people and they’re all white an insane tax rate that would kill every corporation in America and is entirely protected by the United States military. So It’s not quite the same.
Any assistance to any abled body person just engages them in a cycle of dependency on the government.
1 Infinity315 2018-07-19
Okay, how? And you're only one person, anecdotes mean shit when you're talking about the population of the US.
Are whites somehow more preferable? That's why we tax based on net income for corporations. This would encourage reinvestment into the company itself and its employees rather than hoarding wealth. The individual people would of course be taxed based on their income as well.
Can you explain how? What if someone is living to paycheck to paycheck and even that is not enough so they require food stamps. How would someone like that survive? 61% of the population don't even have an emergency fund to subsist off of for even 6 months. So without things such as unemployment or food stamps, what are they expected to do if they get fired or their company closes? Don't make me laugh and say immediately find a job. The point is these programs are temporary measures so that in cases such as where someone is living paycheck to paycheck they can be able to take time off work to actually search for better jobs.
1 tad1611 2018-07-19
Life improvements from private companies I don’t know cell phones, the fact that every piece of information every collected by humanity has been gathered by private organizations and put on the internet for free I really can’t think of anyway the government has improved my life off the top of my head.
Sweden has 3,5 million people Jeff Bezos could fund their entire healthcare system. Why were the the estimates for US single payer system I’d love to know what kind of tax rate is be looking at for a service I don’t need because I’m an adult with health insurance.
No abled body person in America requires food stamps. You show me one I’ll show you someone who can’t budget for shit. Passed that law in Maine and it’s worked great. We have full employment there’s no excuse for anyone to be unemployed.
1 Infinity315 2018-07-19
Do you think private organizations are a double edged sword? e.g. Comcast?
> Sweden has 3,5 million people Jeff Bezos could fund their entire healthcare system. Why were the the estimates for US single payer system I’d love to know what kind of tax rate is be looking at for a service I don’t need because I’m an adult with health insurance.
Jeff Bezos could fund much more than that, unfortunately he's mostly just collected his wealth. I don't know, maybe you should perhaps google it or source your own claims. Also why'd you mention the statistics regarding whites?
> No abled body person in America requires food stamps. You show me one I’ll show you someone who can’t budget for shit. Passed that law in Maine and it’s worked great. We have full employment there’s no excuse for anyone to be unemployed.
I agree we should prevent able bodied people from exploiting the system, I don't think I ever argued for that. It's great that you're doing great now. What would someone do if another recession happened and there are mass layoffs? Did you forget that the 2008 Great Recession was caused by corporations? Do you not think something not unlike JFK's 1960 policy would be needed?
1 watermark02 2018-07-19
I can confirm, I make more than the median income and basically didn't get jack shit from the tax cuts. Fuck Trump, I can't wait until socialism.
1 rado1193 2018-07-19
To counteranecdote meme, I make larger than medium income and I got quite a bit from the tax cuts. Just stop being poor you fucking tankie.
1 tad1611 2018-07-19
Hey my comments made it to a post and no one even told me
1 Nopepole 2018-07-19
u/tad1611
That's the problem, a surprising number of mayos can't help but fuck with the trees, and critters in them.
1 tad1611 2018-07-19
Umm every private organization is based on making more money than they take in so I’d say they’re all better.
Population dynamics literally every aspect of the population age, race, culture, size , distribution is drastically different in America than it is in Sweden.
Poor people do better when they aren’t hobbled by government programs.
I said cut taxes not eliminate them