Hompphobic redneck family steals $850,000 estate willed to brpother's boyfriend. r/legaladvice and /rbestlegaladvice both have to lock posts due to death threats on OP.

69  2018-08-09 by rasungod0

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The only time I've ever given a shit about the nuances of f*male anatomy is when I was doing a hard guro/vore RP where I needed to remember how to spell the parts of her reproductive system that my character was eating.

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Holy shit that OP has to be genuinely handicapped not to think ignoring a will for 850k would go over even slightly well.

They seem like the type of people who are genuinely shocked that someone who is gay isn’t running in fear of their religious nutcase family’s insults

Hot dang thatsumbadnessrightthereyouhear

If this dead brother left 85% of his assets to some guy he dated for 8 months, you know damn well his family was beyond shit to him

Try 8 years. He was with his partner for 8 years.

whoa, that's more than half my SO's age

wait what?

Yeah Mo but if you add all your SOs' ages together you get 16 so it's all good.

if 8 was more than half the age would be 9-15.

HE DID NOTHING WRONG

Even so, this family sounds like redneck trash so I'm guessing they weren't so good to him.

Even so what? 8 years is more than enough time to consider a partner vitally important and significant. The 'family' can die in a fire for all I care.

When you stop being a manchild and have your first adult relationship, you'll understand a little better.

Also this is clearly fake as fuck.

what the fk are you talking about you ape.

💅

this is clearly fake as fuck.

And this is why I advocate for marriage, why the hell wouldn’t you get married or a legal union, this issue wouldn’t of happened I bet had they been married.

It said 8 years you dingus.

Oops!

The family got the business in the will

They just decided it wasn't enough and took the liquid assets as well.

I didn't see that part. What was the business?

Making troll posts on Reddit

This is the correct answer.

Congratulations, you read about as well as the Legal Advice OP.

Too fake to enjoy 😞

just like snallys milkers, WHEN WILL YOU ADMIT YOU HAD COSMETIC SURGERY SNALLY?

wow rude

There's snally milkershots

No because there are no milkers

Are you even on the dramacord? She posts stuff all the time.

Are you even on the dramacord?

imagine unironically saying this sentence and not realizing what level of autism it puts you on

imagine unironically saying this sentence

Imagine thinking I was being serious about snally posting her tits on a server devoted to trap porn.

trap and furry porn*

Apparently someone doxxed them tho

On the other hand, people are precisely this stupid

I've done some Estate work. This story doesn't even approach how retarded people get over inheritance.

People keep saying this but I don't see anything particularly unbelievable. If it was fake OP would have involved a bunch of unnecessary details and would have been more overt in his homophobia and the numbers would have been more unbelievable

A petty family fighting over inheritance isn't unbelievable. 875k is a lot but it's a lot in terms of regular people money. Its a believable some for a successful upper middle class businessman and its not particularly sensational.

OP even uses the language real life homophobic families use. Calling the boyfriend his "friend". In real life you rarely get people outright using slurs and the dismissive "friend" title is one ive heard from extended family a lot.

They didn't do anything impossible, an executor not following a will isn't unheard of.

OP never even doubled down. Which is the whole point when you make outrage porn. They heard how serious it was and suddenly got freaked out.

Yeah it could be fake, but it's hardly ideal outrage pasta. Honestly to me it just seems like tons of people here who think it's fake must just be sheltered kids who weren't old enough to remember how common this shit was just a few years ago and how drastically public perception of homosexuality has shifted in a very short period. This only seems fake when you're 17 and think crazy homophobia is ancient history

OMG, we didn't know it could be this serious. It is all my fault, I convinced my sister to do what the family wanted. We didn't k ow and are shocked that his boyfriend would sue us. I am going to have a family meeting with friends and try to come up with as much money as I can. Omg am very nervous and didn't realize how horrible this could get. Thank you for the advice.

-1769 points

LMAO

Being a good parent is investment.

Christcucks smh

I am quite curious how fucked is OP in this situation? Is there any precedent as to families getting away with this wholesale looting like this?

From the comment section of the first link:

So, things you can worry about:

To be sued for the value of everything that was detailed to him in the will. You will almost certainly lose. Punitive damages. Don't be surprised if they go for triple. You'll be on the hook for attorney's fees. If the value was >$1200, then the sister could, in theory, be charged with felony theft/conversion and/or contempt of the probate court. That would also come with fees and possible jail time. The real question is who the court will force to repay the money. The person with the most exposure is the sister, as the executor. She's looking at a complete and total wipeout, and she cannot discharge that debt in bankruptcy. She can expect wages to be garnished, tax refunds and lottery winnings to be garnished, her credit to be trashed, and if she is charged with anything, severely limited future employment prospects.

In real numbers, what this could mean is: $850,000 (value of what was initially owed to boyfriend) + $2,550,000 (punitive damages up to triple of the value that was initially owed to boyfriend) + all attorney fees, which could range into the the ten's of thousands for a case like this (varies a lot) + possible felony criminal charges for the sister besides just losing the civil suit. Total estimated value of just the civil suit: $3,400,000 + attorney fees, none of which is dischargeable in bankruptcy.

The financial lives of these idiots (and especially the sister) are essentially ruined.

Yeah but its r/legaladvice so by default anything posted there is wrong

Lawyer here, and I fully endorse this comment. r/legaladvice is absolute garbage.

If they have the money, the bf may be willing to settle the matter if they just give him his share.

I'd agree that their exposure is pretty bad here. But like all r/legaladvice threads, users are jumping to the most extreme possible outcome and presenting it as the most likely outcome. The bf probably just wants his money. He may have no interest at all in punishing his deceased partner's family.

According to one of the OP's comments the money is largely gone and spent, though they were trying to fundraise.

The comment I quoted said that those things are what OP should worry about, not what they should fully expect. My addition to the comment was just a calculation of the amounts mentioned. I don't think this was ever presented as the most likely outcome, just that (as you said) the exposure is enormous.

One important fact that's been ignored is that a judgment doesn't automatically move any money around on its own. The family has already spent all of the money. They're so low-class that they're willing to pull this shit, so chances are they're all on SSI, which can't be garnished.

So, they got to spend almost a million dollars on luxury goods and services over the course of nine months, and they will not suffer from any negative consequences whatsoever.

If this is real (doubtful), they're pretty fucked. There are few restrictions on how one can choose to distribute their assets at death, and a properly executed will will be enforced.

With the exception of spouses, family members have no rights to each other's assets at death if a will is available. The will supersedes all the rules of intestate succession.

So the bf gets the money allocated to him in the will. The family will have to come up with it.

In the thread, there's mention of criminal charges. It's certainly possible, but I think the commenters are jumping the gun by presenting that as a near-certainty. That'd be very fact specific, and probably come down to matters of knowledge and intent.

On a practical level, the bf may just want the money. So if they can come up with it, he may be willing to settle the matter.

I've heard horror stories of families challenging wills successfully, especially if the family as a whole doesn't receive much. But they usually have some kind of cause, like "none of us were mentioned" or something else that they can use as a wedge to pry it open and throw it out.

But in theory the will is the will, and even a spoken will is binding, just harder to prove in court.

I doubt there will be criminal charges or "triple" in punitive damages. But the full cost and the lawyer's fees is probably totally reasonable. Damages (and risk of criminal charges) increase somewhat if they guy comes across that post; guy is dumb enough to admit their family stole (he plays it off as just the sister, but he was aware she was subverting the will) the money, re-allocated it, and then acts shocked and confused that the guy got a copy of the will and called them on their shenanigans. How did that happen?! In short, he basically admits he did the wrong thing and tried to hide it, and I doubt the court is going to look too kindly on any argument they make if that comes to light.

It would be a real shame if somebody online tracked this guy down and sent him an archive of the post...

There's a difference between challenging a will and outright disregarding it.

It's the difference between me sueing you for x amount of dollars and me breaking into your house and taking cash

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Hompphobic

brpother

/rbestlegaladvice

Preserve it.

I love how everyone is so worried about homophobia of the family. If the partner had been a woman it would have just been a different excuse. They didn't not like him cause he was gay, they didn't like him cause he was in between the family and their cashcow.

IDK man it seems like homophobia was definitely a driving force behind what OP did. It doesn't matter though because this shit is fake and as gay as the dead brother

It's the pretext for the driving force. I'm sure the homophobia strained the relationship, and it's likely a factor, but when it comes to family and money, the gloves come off. In-laws are quickly marginalized with whatever grievance is at hand. If he weren't Gay, it would have been that the woman was cheating, or abusive, or that the relationship was not that serious. As someone with rich family, I can tell you first hand that the split would have come anyway. If the brother was single then the split would have been within the family. But large inheritances split families much more surely than a (barely) tolerated sexual orientation. And it's the in-laws that are attacked first.

Fake as fuck.

Haha I hope this is real. It's great to watch religious rednecks lose everything

He also said that they said "minor" racial things to him, lol. Amazing.

If I am an adult, can a random family member come along and do what they wish with my money? I figure it would be sitting in a bank and not just wheelbarrowed to my dad's doorstep. Something here doesnt add up.

OP said he is the brother of the deceased. He said he convinced his sister who was the executor (due to her being the only nonhomophobe in the family) to divide up the money and go against the will. So he convinced her to commit felony theft.

Do you not know what an executor is?

Yes.

Digging through the SRDine thread, someone came up with this little fact. Seriously /r/legaladvice is just a creative writing sub like /r/ProRevenge.

And the domestic abuse account was hastily deleted as soon as it was brought up. Looks like reddit did fall for a troll. Still plenty of drama though.