TD is a very facist place, you're actually not allowed to discuss any news that haven't been pre-approved. Since news nowadays consist of daddy taking it up the ass, TD lives in a completely alternate reality.
Okay so it’s a right wing circlejerk. That doesn’t make it fascist. Is /r/Communism fascist just because they ban all conversation that is against communism? Words matter you dumb retard.
Wasnt saying it was facist and im assuming he was just being a sperg and referring to their moderation practices which is LSC levels of punishing wrongthink.
Fascist has multiple meanings. TD is not some extreme right-wing group who believes in a constant and violent Darwinian struggle between ethno-states. The mods are authoritarian dipshits (the other meaning of fascist) but you could say that about quite a few groups of internet janitors.
He's really not as good at the whole "brazenly lie on TV" as the others in the Trump orbit. Don't prompt the reporter with a question like "says who," generalize it and dismiss it with some unrelated lie before changing the subject.
I think it's hilarious how up in arms you are about naïveté when you don't recognize what is arguably the most famous quote of Cohens political career.
The payments began flowing in February 2017, soon after Trump took office, when Cohen approached Trump Organization executives seeking to be reimbursed for “election-related” expenses, prosecutors said.
I'm not sure why you're assuming the mouthbreathers there are in touch with reality enough to be negatively affected by any news. Other than the news of the billions of victims of Pizzagate, of course.
Meh, all we learned tonight was that he thinks turkeys gestate in the oven on thanksgiving and the governor of West Virginia is the largest, most beautiful man. Those are pretty much direct quotes btw.
Guys, I think if a man fires the first guy investigating his campaign, then tries to fire the person investigating him, not once, not twice but three times...
I think he might be guilty of something.
Just a hunch. 🤔
Like honestly do you people even try? You know no one other than other people removed from reality believe the horseshit you people attempt to shovel right?
Even if the mental gymnastics you're trying to peddle were true
"Increasingly nervous man sees nothing wrong with a president trying to encourage his attorney genereal into firing the people investigating him, panting as he runs out of breath from moving the goal posts."
Qultists believe all the evidence gained from Cohen and Manafort and Cohen's cooperation is a 3d chess move designed by their guy Mueller to get the evidence needed to reveal and prosecute the deep state out in the open. I'm really impressed by the narratives they can construct and that they're at 50k subs and growing
Your gestapo failed again: two sources tell News 4 the expected deal does not include cooperation but will include charges related to tax fraud, bank fraud and a campaign finance violation.
He's a homegrown radical poster, the problem is that we don't have enough homegrown radical left-wing posters to balance out the right ones. The recent migrants need to leave tho
You are just the other side of the mde coin. All you do is ree on r/neoliberal which is known to cause extreme faggotry in those that partake in such activities.
All you do is ree on r/neoliberal which is known to cause extreme faggotry in those that partake in such activities.
in such activities? goddamn you are making that sub sound like some cool NWO-style hangout when it's mostly undergrad econs having generic takes on everything
What people see to be missing is that if Trump gets 'impeached' the country will implode. It's not like the bad orange man will go away and we can go back to business as normal.
I'm pretty sure the only thing you guys would have to look forward to then is President Pence in 2020. I'd be more afraid of that if I was an American hard core leftist - the last thing you want is someone in power who actually has an inkling of how to accomplish their agenda.
all you have to do is hate and meme on the other side hard enough. morality, policies, reason etc all of that is nonsense, literally just get enough people to be in a frothing memehate towards the other side
This is the thing I laugh at, russia was the cause of all this and these dudes are being investigated for white collar crimes that every lobbyist in washington has been doing for 40 years
Then it's the same thing that happens when legislators and/or presidents get caught doing something immoral or not shockingly illegal, but with greater stakes than usual and a fairly higher amount of evangelicals being hypocrites.
Cohen's prosecution doesn't involve Mueller. It's the US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York. This criminal probe was separate from the Russia investigation.
B) Mueller's actual investigation is still ongoing
C) Even if we only find out about other shit, it's kinda retarded to say "well aure the guy murdered his wife, but you were originally just looking for evidence of insurance fraud, so it doesn,t count"
D) These are not "normal" politician skeletons brah. Most politicians are not retarded enough to pull shit this obviously shady and then try to run for president.
So, from my perspective of vaguely following this on the other side of the world, the entire circus is basically this -
Mueller targets someone, digs up a bunch of unrelated dirt on them, and then offers them a "plea deal" on said dirt in return for testimony. Testimony that so far isn't actually producing any results?
I mean, I get what he's doing, I've watched enough police procedurals. You just keep turning one guy after another while you try and climb up the ladder, but for real - How many deals is he going to hand out before he starts charging people with the actual stuff he's supposed to be investigating on and not their tax returns?
The cynical part of my brain wonders if this isn't just an orchestrated dog and pony show (Mueller is a republican after all) to create a lot of noise, but no results.
I know it’s a bit confusing, but the Cohen plea today wasn’t technically part of the Mueller investigation.
While doing their thing, Mueller’s team found some evidence of campaign finance crime. But, it was outside of his assigned task. So he passed it to another federal prosecutor, the US Attorney’s Office in the Southern District of New York (SDNY) to deal with.
The take-away is that the Cohen thing is a completely separate issue from the Russia situation. They committed campaign finance violations all on their own without need of any special foreign help.
Yeah, the whole point of the investigation is to dig up enough dirt to convince all democrats (there will be a few shy ones who won't commit unless its a sure thing) and a few Republicans (this is the important part) to impeach.
Its always been that way, and why smart people have rightfully called it a political hackjob from the start. Even if Trump is guilty as fuck and a literal traitor, that's still true.
Mueller was appointed as Special Counsel by Acting AG Rod Rosenstein to investigate allegations of criminal activity involving Russia during the 2016 election. And that's the point of the investigation - to determine if crimes were committed.
Its always been that way, and why smart people have rightfully called it a political hackjob from the start. Even if Trump is guilty as fuck and a literal traitor, that's still true.
Lol wut? That's not how it works. It can't be a cynical political hackjob and also bringing a known traitor to justice at the same time.
Republicans did the exact same thing with Clinton. The Starr investigation started out investigating watergate. I guess this is just how it works now: the justice system exists to be used as a weapon against your political opponents
Ken Starr was Independent Counsel, which was a position created by and answerable to Congress, which was controlled by Republicans at the time. Mueller was appointed by the AG's office, by a Republican Acting AG, and is subordinate to the Acting AG. Mueller's appointment didn't involve Trump's 'political opponents.' And Mueller is far more constrained than Starr. Rod Rosenstein, Trump's appointee, ultimately controls the investigation.
"So maybe Trump colluded with Russia. Can you prove that every atom in our current GOD-EMPEROR'S body is the same as those in candidate Trump's body? No? Sit down, libtards.
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-08-21
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1 TSwizzlesNipples 2018-08-21
Oh this is juicy...Cohen testifies that Trump told him to pay off the porn stars. t_d is gonna be a suicide watch.
1 ItsSugar 2018-08-21
TD is a very facist place, you're actually not allowed to discuss any news that haven't been pre-approved. Since news nowadays consist of daddy taking it up the ass, TD lives in a completely alternate reality.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-21
Trumptardism can't survive outside of an echo chamber.
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2018-08-21
It isn’t fascist. It’s a 24/7 Trump rally. No doubt there are fascist weirdos in that sub tho.
1 allendrio 2018-08-21
Its more than just trump shit though its generally whatever triggers / circlejerks right wing reactionary mayos at the moment.
1 HodorTheDoorHolder 2018-08-21
Okay so it’s a right wing circlejerk. That doesn’t make it fascist. Is /r/Communism fascist just because they ban all conversation that is against communism? Words matter you dumb retard.
1 allendrio 2018-08-21
Wasnt saying it was facist and im assuming he was just being a sperg and referring to their moderation practices which is LSC levels of punishing wrongthink.
1 wisty 2018-08-21
Fascist has multiple meanings. TD is not some extreme right-wing group who believes in a constant and violent Darwinian struggle between ethno-states. The mods are authoritarian dipshits (the other meaning of fascist) but you could say that about quite a few groups of internet janitors.
1 Hellkyte 2018-08-21
Says who?
1 Agenda_Poster 2018-08-21
Literally himself Jesus Christ
1 Hellkyte 2018-08-21
Says who?
1 RestoreFear 2018-08-21
Holy shit that was him? That's golden.
1 allendrio 2018-08-21
We shouldnt stop at mayocide we need anglocide, anyone who speaks english so i dont have to see something that retarded again.
1 Agenda_Poster 2018-08-21
Hahaha what the fuck this guy is the worst
1 Clopernicus 2018-08-21
He's really not as good at the whole "brazenly lie on TV" as the others in the Trump orbit. Don't prompt the reporter with a question like "says who," generalize it and dismiss it with some unrelated lie before changing the subject.
1 zenicaone 2018-08-21
even if he said "oh polls - yeah sure" after she answered would be way better than his stupid face blank stare.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-21
Do you unironically believe Trump's personal lawyer went to pay off pornstars without Donald Trump both knowing and telling him to do it?
1 Hellkyte 2018-08-21
Says who?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-21
Who do you think Cohen was talking about when he said "unnamed candidate."
1 Heydammit 2018-08-21
Pizza Jesus fucking Christ read the other comments.
1 yourdeadwife 2018-08-21
PIZZA NO LIKE READ JOKE >:(
1 deceIIerator 2018-08-21
Literally who
1 Hellkyte 2018-08-21
I think it's hilarious how up in arms you are about naïveté when you don't recognize what is arguably the most famous quote of Cohens political career.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-21
There's nothing "naive" about not paying attention to the rants of a moron.
1 Hellkyte 2018-08-21
Don't act like your ignorance was a concious choice.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-21
I'm not "acting" like anything. I never paid attention to anything his sycophants said.
1 yourdeadwife 2018-08-21
PIZZA NO CARE ABOUT POLITICS CANT U SEE >:( NO ATTENTION TO DUMB MAN
1 JumbledFun 2018-08-21
Reaching captainpriapism levels of self delusion here
1 zenicaone 2018-08-21
Are you really this naive? You really think that anyone who voted for Trump cares?
Dude had multiple wives and was running beauty contest annd reality show (among other things)
Nobody thought that he was Pence type of guy. nobody cares.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-21
He broke the fucking law. This isn't about his personal life.
What he did was illegal.
1 Eternal_Mr_Bones 2018-08-21
What's the illegality of paying pornstars hush money? Was it a campaign finance abuse?
1 pizzashill 2018-08-21
Yes, not only that, but it seems Trump paid out the bribes after he took office, using fake invoices:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-company-approved-420000-in-payments-to-cohen-relying-on-sham-invoices-prosecutors-say/2018/08/21/b6b327fc-a596-11e8-97ce-cc9042272f07_story.html
1 Eternal_Mr_Bones 2018-08-21
From a practical standpoint it seems tenuous is their any prior case law to support defining that as a contribution?
From a normal perspective it's ironic that Republicans finally get comeupance for burning Clinton for banging an intern.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-21
https://www.npr.org/2018/03/25/596805368/payment-to-stormy-daniels-may-have-broken-campaign-finance-law
1 zenicaone 2018-08-21
nobody cares that he paid some hush money to some bimbo
1 pizzashill 2018-08-21
Again, he broke the law, everyone around him is a criminal up to and including himself.
This is the tip of the iceberg. Trump should be indicted.
1 zenicaone 2018-08-21
again - nobody cares that he fucked some bimbos and paid hush money - get over it.
you do know that this is not the first president who banged whores, when ever he could (?)
I have seen at least hundred tips of the ice berg since he was elected. at this point its witch hunt.
I dont care if DNC takes house or not but the way they run things - they may be happy if they keep numbers they have now.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-21
Trump broke the law, he is a criminal.
Funny how by like every metric the country does better when Democrats are in charge, wonder why that is.
Almost like the GOP puts hilariously unqualified people in charge of vital departments.
1 TSwizzlesNipples 2018-08-21
A sitting president cannot be indicted. They can be impeached.
1 g00dmanhaha 2018-08-21
That’s one interpretation.
1 TSwizzlesNipples 2018-08-21
Well here's both.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-21
As far as I know, the question of "can a president be indicted" is still up in the air and not settled.
1 TSwizzlesNipples 2018-08-21
Yeah, I looked it up. It was a question that was asked and unanswered during the Clinton years.
1 muck4doo 2018-08-21
I'd rather a president who fucks porn stars than one who rapes interns.
1 rhyme-ocerus 2018-08-21
I'm not sure why you're assuming the mouthbreathers there are in touch with reality enough to be negatively affected by any news. Other than the news of the billions of victims of Pizzagate, of course.
1 TSwizzlesNipples 2018-08-21
Fuckin' Cheese Pizza, man.
1 OkThatsProblematic 2018-08-21
A single slice, shared amongst several adults, to be specific.
1 Strictlybutters 2018-08-21
Daddy’s campaign rally is going to be so fire emoji tonight! https://i.imgur.com/XI6CpbR.jpg
1 Ls777 2018-08-21
Could this be finally it? Could Hillary Clinton finally be going to jail??????
1 snallygaster 2018-08-21
Trump and Cohen are finally bringing the pedovore cabal to justice! MAGA
1 hyledog 2018-08-21
jill stein confirmed evil gay pedo vampire
1 pepperouchau 2018-08-21
it was her turn
1 AHealthySenseofDread 2018-08-21
Howdare you bismerch Crystal grandma like this
1 pepperouchau 2018-08-21
J I L L S T E I N
1 barbedvelvet 2018-08-21
Meh, all we learned tonight was that he thinks turkeys gestate in the oven on thanksgiving and the governor of West Virginia is the largest, most beautiful man. Those are pretty much direct quotes btw.
1 MrAlphonzo 2018-08-21
Guys, I think if a man fires the first guy investigating his campaign, then tries to fire the person investigating him, not once, not twice but three times...
I think he might be guilty of something. Just a hunch. 🤔
1 DarthNightnaricus 2018-08-21
N-no, it's all part of the plan, honest! It's all just 4D chess!
/s
1 zenicaone 2018-08-21
nah, you are thinking 2D chess. Daddy is on a whole another level.
everyone on that level of politics (in DC) is guilty of at least something.
1 MrAlphonzo 2018-08-21
How dare you slander Steny Hoyer like that
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-08-21
He hasn't actually tried to fire Mueller
1 MrAlphonzo 2018-08-21
Really?
Count 'em with me now.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-mueller-20180125-story.html
One.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/10/us/politics/trump-sought-to-fire-mueller-in-december.html
Two.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1024646945640525826
Three.
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-08-21
😴😴😴
Unsubstantiated rumors and still Mueller is in his position.
I'll say again since I guess you're slow. Trump has never actually tried to fire Mueller.
1 MrAlphonzo 2018-08-21
Unsubstaniated?
Literally what in the sweet fucking akatosh are you talking about?
He literally made his third attempt to fire him in public.
Seriously
What are you talking about?
1 snallygaster 2018-08-21
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1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-08-21
stop nerdshaming, you furry bitch
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-08-21
stones and glass houses, snally
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-08-21
> saying a tweet is literally evidence of a crime.
This is your mind on TDS.
1 MrAlphonzo 2018-08-21
It took you an hour to think of a spin and the best you could come up with is
"The POTUS may have said it but he only said it on Twitter!"
Grow a spine.
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-08-21
It's not spin. You have to be borderline retarded to think that tweet is evidence of anything.
1 MrAlphonzo 2018-08-21
Those tweets were already ruled to be official statements from the White House, by a federal judge.
That tweet is an official document.
Grow a spine.
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-08-21
Tell me where in the tweet he attempts to fire Mueller
1 MrAlphonzo 2018-08-21
Moving the goalposts I see.
"Attorney General Jeff Sessions should stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now"
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-08-21
Like honestly do you people even try? You know no one other than other people removed from reality believe the horseshit you people attempt to shovel right?
1 MrAlphonzo 2018-08-21
Even if the mental gymnastics you're trying to peddle were true
"Increasingly nervous man sees nothing wrong with a president trying to encourage his attorney genereal into firing the people investigating him, panting as he runs out of breath from moving the goal posts."
Grow a spine.
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-08-21
Ok, sweaty.
Let me know when you finally get the mean Drumpfy!
1 MrAlphonzo 2018-08-21
Surely this will be end of Mueller.
1 HvinFunOnTheInternet 2018-08-21
Wtf does an “attempt” to fire Meuller mean? He has the power to do it at the stroke of a pen.
1 MrAlphonzo 2018-08-21
The president has no right to directly fire a special counsel.
He can, however, order the attorney general to do it.
1 ItsSugar 2018-08-21
Engaging this DDF fucktard
1 Matues49 2018-08-21
Q predicted this?
1 zenicaone 2018-08-21
yes
1 charming_tainter 2018-08-21
Qultists believe all the evidence gained from Cohen and Manafort and Cohen's cooperation is a 3d chess move designed by their guy Mueller to get the evidence needed to reveal and prosecute the deep state out in the open. I'm really impressed by the narratives they can construct and that they're at 50k subs and growing
1 ChipChippersonAMA 2018-08-21
Lol for fucks sake
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-08-21
"this will surely be the end of Drumpf" says increasingly paranoid man for 37th time this year
1 parameciidae 2018-08-21
Who cares if this is 'the end of' him? It's fucking hilarious. Just enjoy the show with the rest of us.
1 Tytos_Lannister 2018-08-21
automod?
1 snallygaster 2018-08-21
Eva is a valued member of our community.
1 icefourthirtythree 2018-08-21
I think we have different standards for a person's value.
1 schoolboystirner 2018-08-21
He's one of drama's own.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-08-21
<3
1 snallygaster 2018-08-21
Keep on keepin on but consider making changes to your life
1 ComedicSans 2018-08-21
Is he tho?
1 snallygaster 2018-08-21
He's a homegrown radical poster, the problem is that we don't have enough homegrown radical left-wing posters to balance out the right ones. The recent migrants need to leave tho
1 ComedicSans 2018-08-21
Oh I know. I've never been tempted to ban him. But I do downvote him from time to time. (I'm a bad man).
1 keepittropical 2018-08-21
You are just the other side of the mde coin. All you do is ree on r/neoliberal which is known to cause extreme faggotry in those that partake in such activities.
1 Tytos_Lannister 2018-08-21
in such activities? goddamn you are making that sub sound like some cool NWO-style hangout when it's mostly undergrad econs having generic takes on everything
1 preserved_fish 2018-08-21
r/neoliberal's economics Are renowned for the sucking of dicks But its activity there Doesn't compare To the number of assholes it licks
1 Going_up_the_Country 2018-08-21
Damn right, we only go for radical centrist faggotry here.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-08-21
Lol newfag
1 snallygaster 2018-08-21
Gotem
1 siempreloco31 2018-08-21
I dunno man. Maybe time to get on the Pence train.
1 MG87 2018-08-21
"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
Says the dipshit
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-08-21
Lol nigga u mad Daddy is still gonna be king?
1 MG87 2018-08-21
That's right, screech for me bitch
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-08-21
Wojackmaskcrying.jpg 1. Item 2. Item
1 MG87 2018-08-21
I don't have alts, but it's nice to see how deeply embedded in your head I am.
1 HvinFunOnTheInternet 2018-08-21
The resistards have taken over /r/drama. Sad
1 ticktockwarrior 2018-08-21
Trump isn't getting impeached. In fact, I find trump winning a second term increasingly likely as leftists continue to not learn their lesson.
1 HolyWarsPunishment 2018-08-21
What people see to be missing is that if Trump gets 'impeached' the country will implode. It's not like the bad orange man will go away and we can go back to business as normal.
1 The_King_of_AIDS 2018-08-21
This is good for drama coin though.
1 MegaSeedsInYourBum 2018-08-21
Best case scenario, he loses the next election, refuses to accept the results or step down and it's civil war 2.0
1 Fiat-Libertas 2018-08-21
Final please let us get some real drama
1 VidiotGamer 2018-08-21
I'm pretty sure the only thing you guys would have to look forward to then is President Pence in 2020. I'd be more afraid of that if I was an American hard core leftist - the last thing you want is someone in power who actually has an inkling of how to accomplish their agenda.
1 Etsuko1 2018-08-21
Do you think Pence would shitpost on Twitter?
1 VidiotGamer 2018-08-21
He seems like a bible verses only sorta guy.
1 preserved_fish 2018-08-21
If Trump is convicted in the Senate—and I don't think he will be—Pence would have negative political capital.
1 Che_Gueporna 2018-08-21
Lol.
Pence ain't Trump. He doesn't have that tv star force of personality. Which is literally the only reason Trump won in the first place.
Pence 2020 would be like Bob Dole and Gerald Ford rolled into a single boring asshole.
1 MrAlphonzo 2018-08-21
Progressives don't have to worry about paying rent anymore.
They can live in conservative heads, rent free.
1 eva_unit_hung 2018-08-21
Lol "I hate these guys, so i'n unironically gonna use all the good lines they have"
1 preserved_fish 2018-08-21
The idiom of living in someone's head rent-free is hardly exclusive to you and your troglodyte friends: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_No-One_Live_Rent_Free_in_Your_Head?wprov=sfla1
1 22333444455555666666 2018-08-21
no, leftists are finally learning their lesson
all you have to do is hate and meme on the other side hard enough. morality, policies, reason etc all of that is nonsense, literally just get enough people to be in a frothing memehate towards the other side
1 HvinFunOnTheInternet 2018-08-21
😴😴😴
1 22333444455555666666 2018-08-21
-----/>mueller👴🍆💦😴😴😴
1 MG87 2018-08-21
Is it a witch hunt when the bitches float?
1 elwombat 2018-08-21
So what happens if none of this is related to Russia? Was it an actual witch hunt that just dug up normal politician skeletons?
1 froibo 2018-08-21
Then the swamp is getting drained.
1 heir2air 2018-08-21
This is the thing I laugh at, russia was the cause of all this and these dudes are being investigated for white collar crimes that every lobbyist in washington has been doing for 40 years
lol. the left should read this article.
1 snallygaster 2018-08-21
Then it's the same thing that happens when legislators and/or presidents get caught doing something immoral or not shockingly illegal, but with greater stakes than usual and a fairly higher amount of evangelicals being hypocrites.
1 workshardanddies 2018-08-21
Cohen's prosecution doesn't involve Mueller. It's the US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York. This criminal probe was separate from the Russia investigation.
1 Che_Gueporna 2018-08-21
A) Manafort is directly related to Russia
B) Mueller's actual investigation is still ongoing
C) Even if we only find out about other shit, it's kinda retarded to say "well aure the guy murdered his wife, but you were originally just looking for evidence of insurance fraud, so it doesn,t count"
D) These are not "normal" politician skeletons brah. Most politicians are not retarded enough to pull shit this obviously shady and then try to run for president.
1 VidiotGamer 2018-08-21
So, from my perspective of vaguely following this on the other side of the world, the entire circus is basically this -
Mueller targets someone, digs up a bunch of unrelated dirt on them, and then offers them a "plea deal" on said dirt in return for testimony. Testimony that so far isn't actually producing any results?
I mean, I get what he's doing, I've watched enough police procedurals. You just keep turning one guy after another while you try and climb up the ladder, but for real - How many deals is he going to hand out before he starts charging people with the actual stuff he's supposed to be investigating on and not their tax returns?
The cynical part of my brain wonders if this isn't just an orchestrated dog and pony show (Mueller is a republican after all) to create a lot of noise, but no results.
1 cantsaythat 2018-08-21
I know it’s a bit confusing, but the Cohen plea today wasn’t technically part of the Mueller investigation.
While doing their thing, Mueller’s team found some evidence of campaign finance crime. But, it was outside of his assigned task. So he passed it to another federal prosecutor, the US Attorney’s Office in the Southern District of New York (SDNY) to deal with.
The take-away is that the Cohen thing is a completely separate issue from the Russia situation. They committed campaign finance violations all on their own without need of any special foreign help.
1 ItsSugar 2018-08-21
Careful, don't want to even seem condescending or you'll end up triggering that old (((economic anxiety))).
1 QuantumFreakonomics 2018-08-21
See, the thing is, Muller can't actually file meaningful charges against the President. According to the constitution, only congress can do that.
1 Zeriell 2018-08-21
Yeah, the whole point of the investigation is to dig up enough dirt to convince all democrats (there will be a few shy ones who won't commit unless its a sure thing) and a few Republicans (this is the important part) to impeach.
Its always been that way, and why smart people have rightfully called it a political hackjob from the start. Even if Trump is guilty as fuck and a literal traitor, that's still true.
1 workshardanddies 2018-08-21
Mueller was appointed as Special Counsel by Acting AG Rod Rosenstein to investigate allegations of criminal activity involving Russia during the 2016 election. And that's the point of the investigation - to determine if crimes were committed.
1 Zeriell 2018-08-21
If you think either party gives a single flying fuck about the integrity of our elections, I don't even know what to say.
1 Che_Gueporna 2018-08-21
Lol wut? That's not how it works. It can't be a cynical political hackjob and also bringing a known traitor to justice at the same time.
1 degorius 2018-08-21
The stuff hes supposed to be investigating, particularly part B sec 2
1 HvinFunOnTheInternet 2018-08-21
Republicans did the exact same thing with Clinton. The Starr investigation started out investigating watergate. I guess this is just how it works now: the justice system exists to be used as a weapon against your political opponents
1 VidiotGamer 2018-08-21
Yeah, I lived state-side during that circus and I remember it well. What a total fucking joke.
1 workshardanddies 2018-08-21
Ken Starr was Independent Counsel, which was a position created by and answerable to Congress, which was controlled by Republicans at the time. Mueller was appointed by the AG's office, by a Republican Acting AG, and is subordinate to the Acting AG. Mueller's appointment didn't involve Trump's 'political opponents.' And Mueller is far more constrained than Starr. Rod Rosenstein, Trump's appointee, ultimately controls the investigation.
1 HvinFunOnTheInternet 2018-08-21
K good points, still the similarities between the two investigations is uncanny
1 barbedvelvet 2018-08-21
Going to federal prison to own the libs
1 better_bot 2018-08-21
"So maybe Trump colluded with Russia. Can you prove that every atom in our current GOD-EMPEROR'S body is the same as those in candidate Trump's body? No? Sit down, libtards.
1 HvinFunOnTheInternet 2018-08-21
Except this case has nothing to do with Russia but sure
1 rnjbond 2018-08-21
/r/politics will finally get their wish of President Pence