This reads like something a wasted sorority chick would write in a yearbook. We can observe the complete absence of any moral framework or intellectual ability in this one sample of writing.
He was brought to the country illegally, and was complying with his documented status as someone whonwas brought here illegally as a minor.
That being said, the fact that the goober has to have the court proceedings translated for him dosent bode well for the idea that he has integrated much.
Loosely. He isn't a citizen, he dosent have a visa, and didn't enter the country legally. If your definition of legally here is "anyone the government is putting on a bus to Mexico right this moment" then yeah, legally I guess.
Are you going to admit he was in the country legally or keep trying to skirt around it to avoid admitting the political right is a hive of mental illness?
Catch and release programs done in the US don't give illegal immigrants a legal status in the country. Cooperating with immigration authorities once caught only means that they have you documented as being here. It dosent give you any legal ground to stand on.
The article only refers to him as a "documented resident" for this reason. As being documented as being in the country illegally dosent make the guy a legal resident. That's how catch and release laws work.
Also yes tons of people are here legally and are not citizens, I am aware of visas and legal immigration and etc.
Being here legally, as in you being here and not in violation of federal law means you are in the country legally.
Once again, catch and release dosent give you any legal status at all.
"The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services responded with a statement that there is "no record" Rivera is here legally."
Also on the previous point, it is not even truly known that he was brought here as a child.
"The U.S. Department of Homeland Security says Rivera is undocumented and has been living in the United States between 4 and 7 years."
Everything you are talking about is only things that his defense has supplied. From all official sources, no, he was not in the country legally. That's why he had to commit fraud to get his job.
That's highly dependent on his immigration defense. From what I can tell, yes. It seems more likely that he entered as an adult, and improper entry is a criminal federal misdemeanor.
"The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services responded with a statement that there is "no record" Rivera is here legally."
Because according to everyone but his defense, he wasn't. They also don't say he was in the country legally only, vaguely, that he was documented as being in the states. Obviously that documentation didn't give him any legal standing, otherwise he wouldn't have had to bypass e verify or commit identity fraud.
“Former leader of Iowa’s educational system (The Iowa Board of Regents) Craig Lang has verified that Cristhian is in this jurisdiction legally,” Richards wrote. “Cristhian has complied with his documented status since arriving in the USA as a minor.”
I'll hold my breath for that investigation to go through.
The Social Security card and state-issued ID Rivera presented when he was hired have now been determined to belong to someone else. "Our employee was not who he said he was," Dane Lang said. He declined to provide the name Rivera used, citing the ongoing investigation.
Now, Riddle me this. All official evidence, from all government agencies, and all records that can be proven show that he was in the country illegally.
Above is Craig Langs son, the information he provided Craig, who said he was here legally was found to be someone else's identity. It helps to check newer sources as a investigation developes.
If he came here as a minor and was here "legally" why would he commit identity fraud?
Homeland Security places him having been in the country between 4 to 7 years. So he was between 17 and 20 when he entered. That being said, we also do know that lieing about being a minor on entry is common. That being said, that and the fact that he needs a translator and also the fact that he never applied for dreamer status dosent lead me to believe that he has been here the better part of ten years.
Could be, maybe the lawyer is just retarded, but it seems highly questionable to me that the lawyer would lie in a way to where he could easily be exposed like this.
He wasn't fibbing per say. He positioning an argument based on sketchy information to give his client the best possible chance. I understand it. Didn't do fuck all for him. His gag order was denied.
She had a white boyfriend. She was just shitposting. Like anyone here wouldn't come across 1000x as obnoxious if someone dug through your post history.
Imagine being so retarded you think one possible illegal committing a murder is a solid argument against immigration, lol.
A good argument would be that the immigrants in question tend to be more liable to violence than the general population. I find the "If they wouldn't have been here this never wild have happened" argument annoying. From my perspective, all that really matters is my own individual likelihood of falling victim to a crime. If you deport a bunch of people who are apt equally as prone to violence as the average American, yes, they will be unable to commit any crimes, but I'm not actually any safer statistically. It's a fact that as population lowers, so does the total number of crimes. What really makes a nation better is lower per capita violence, not total violence.
Anyway I'm not even pro open borders, I just think it's a dumb, emotional argument for their desire to massively prioritize enforcement of immigration laws. It's an incredibly easy standard for them to argue for though, elegantly it's not enough to ask that immigrants be no more dangerous than the average American, literal perfection is apparently expected, 0% crime rate.
She had a white boyfriend. She was just shitposting. Like anyone here wouldn't come across 1000x as obnoxious if someone dug through your post history.
I would sooner kill myself than the my name to reddit.
She had a white boyfriend. She was just shitposting. Like anyone here wouldn't come across 1000x as obnoxious if someone dug through your post history.
Fat Asian lady killed by mayo from heart attack. Mayocide posts baffle Alex Jones.
iirc on a npr segment I heard, the e verify system is kind of 'dumb' in that if you basically give it any valid SS# or whatever it asks, it comes back positive. It's basically plausible deniability for legal status for industries that traditionally use a lot of undocumented labor.
Well this is just further proof that the whole system is confusing as fuck and makes no sense. How is it so fucking difficult to determine immigration status.
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1 mydramaaccount 2018-08-23
Anyone brown is illegal to racist retards.
1 JasonJewn0va 2018-08-23
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1 myshl0ng 2018-08-23
Mother earth thinks they are illegal
1 Lvl100SkrubRekker 2018-08-23
He was brought to the country illegally, and was complying with his documented status as someone whonwas brought here illegally as a minor.
That being said, the fact that the goober has to have the court proceedings translated for him dosent bode well for the idea that he has integrated much.
1 cuteman 2018-08-23
His legal status is the least of his issues in light of fraud and murder.
1 moush 2018-08-23
Not for the people who want to politicize it.
1 SlightDelivery 2018-08-23
So he's a dreamer? I guess that's the end of THAT program.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-23
So he was here legally.
1 Lvl100SkrubRekker 2018-08-23
Legally in the sense that illegals whom are known to the authorities and do their mandatory check ins are here legally.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-23
So here legally.
1 Lvl100SkrubRekker 2018-08-23
Loosely. He isn't a citizen, he dosent have a visa, and didn't enter the country legally. If your definition of legally here is "anyone the government is putting on a bus to Mexico right this moment" then yeah, legally I guess.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-23
Are you going to admit he was in the country legally or keep trying to skirt around it to avoid admitting the political right is a hive of mental illness?
1 Lvl100SkrubRekker 2018-08-23
I explained this in my last comment.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-23
You didn't, you keep trying to skirt around it.
Say it "he was in this country legally."
1 Lvl100SkrubRekker 2018-08-23
I explained the distinction man. I don't know why it's hard for you to understand.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-23
There is no distinction here. He was in the country legally, that is an objective fact.
Just because someone isn't a citizen doesn't mean they aren't in the united states legally.
1 Lvl100SkrubRekker 2018-08-23
Catch and release programs done in the US don't give illegal immigrants a legal status in the country. Cooperating with immigration authorities once caught only means that they have you documented as being here. It dosent give you any legal ground to stand on.
The article only refers to him as a "documented resident" for this reason. As being documented as being in the country illegally dosent make the guy a legal resident. That's how catch and release laws work.
Also yes tons of people are here legally and are not citizens, I am aware of visas and legal immigration and etc.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-23
I need you to answer this question with a yes or no.
Was this person in the united states legally?
1 Lvl100SkrubRekker 2018-08-23
No. He was documented as being in the states but he was not here legally.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-23
He was here legally, the fact you can't comprehend this is pretty interesting.
People dragged here as children can remain "legally" as in by being here they are not in violation of federal law.
1 Lvl100SkrubRekker 2018-08-23
Except he wasn't. He didn't have a legal status.
Explains why he dosent speak English and had to have all the court proceedings translated, this poor child dragged here many moon ago.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-23
Being here legally, as in you being here and not in violation of federal law means you are in the country legally.
How can you not comprehend this?
1 Lvl100SkrubRekker 2018-08-23
Once again, catch and release dosent give you any legal status at all.
"The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services responded with a statement that there is "no record" Rivera is here legally."
Also on the previous point, it is not even truly known that he was brought here as a child.
"The U.S. Department of Homeland Security says Rivera is undocumented and has been living in the United States between 4 and 7 years."
Everything you are talking about is only things that his defense has supplied. From all official sources, no, he was not in the country legally. That's why he had to commit fraud to get his job.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-23
Was he in violation of federal law by being in the united states?
1 Lvl100SkrubRekker 2018-08-23
That's highly dependent on his immigration defense. From what I can tell, yes. It seems more likely that he entered as an adult, and improper entry is a criminal federal misdemeanor.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-23
The fact you can't admit he was in the US legally is wild.
You seem to just have no comprehension of what "legal status" means.
1 Lvl100SkrubRekker 2018-08-23
"The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services responded with a statement that there is "no record" Rivera is here legally."
Because according to everyone but his defense, he wasn't. They also don't say he was in the country legally only, vaguely, that he was documented as being in the states. Obviously that documentation didn't give him any legal standing, otherwise he wouldn't have had to bypass e verify or commit identity fraud.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-23
1 Lvl100SkrubRekker 2018-08-23
I'll hold my breath for that investigation to go through.
Now, Riddle me this. All official evidence, from all government agencies, and all records that can be proven show that he was in the country illegally.
Above is Craig Langs son, the information he provided Craig, who said he was here legally was found to be someone else's identity. It helps to check newer sources as a investigation developes.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-23
I don't know, the fake name is sketchy, but if he did come here as a minor (which is what is claimed) he wasn't here illegally.
I find it hard to believe his lawyer would blatantly lie about him being here legally, it's not something he could hide really.
1 Lvl100SkrubRekker 2018-08-23
If he came here as a minor and was here "legally" why would he commit identity fraud?
Homeland Security places him having been in the country between 4 to 7 years. So he was between 17 and 20 when he entered. That being said, we also do know that lieing about being a minor on entry is common. That being said, that and the fact that he needs a translator and also the fact that he never applied for dreamer status dosent lead me to believe that he has been here the better part of ten years.
1 pizzashill 2018-08-23
Could be, maybe the lawyer is just retarded, but it seems highly questionable to me that the lawyer would lie in a way to where he could easily be exposed like this.
1 Lvl100SkrubRekker 2018-08-23
You see that niggas tie?
He wasn't fibbing per say. He positioning an argument based on sketchy information to give his client the best possible chance. I understand it. Didn't do fuck all for him. His gag order was denied.
1 cuteman 2018-08-23
Any one illegal is illegal regardless of who thinks what.
1 nahnotreallytho 2018-08-23
I hope it's true. The bickering would be amazing. So far it's USCIS and HomeSec saying no while his farm says
yesi meannoi mean yes he's legal1 Neon_needles 2018-08-23
I thought everyone was laughing at a "no white boys" twitter lady murdered by a Hispanic out of sheer irony.
Imagine being so retarded you think one possible illegal committing a muder is a solid argument against immigration, lol.
1 nahnotreallytho 2018-08-23
you aren't laughing at pol drama? you're missing out
1 shazbottled 2018-08-23
Where's the no white boys thing from? Don't see it anywhere
1 Neon_needles 2018-08-23
https://i.imgur.com/czkga3F.jpg
1 shazbottled 2018-08-23
... Kek
1 shallowm 2018-08-23
gonna post this in certain circles so they lose their sympathy for her
1 watermark02 2018-08-23
She had a white boyfriend. She was just shitposting. Like anyone here wouldn't come across 1000x as obnoxious if someone dug through your post history.
A good argument would be that the immigrants in question tend to be more liable to violence than the general population. I find the "If they wouldn't have been here this never wild have happened" argument annoying. From my perspective, all that really matters is my own individual likelihood of falling victim to a crime. If you deport a bunch of people who are apt equally as prone to violence as the average American, yes, they will be unable to commit any crimes, but I'm not actually any safer statistically. It's a fact that as population lowers, so does the total number of crimes. What really makes a nation better is lower per capita violence, not total violence.
Anyway I'm not even pro open borders, I just think it's a dumb, emotional argument for their desire to massively prioritize enforcement of immigration laws. It's an incredibly easy standard for them to argue for though, elegantly it's not enough to ask that immigrants be no more dangerous than the average American, literal perfection is apparently expected, 0% crime rate.
1 totalrandomperson 2018-08-23
I would sooner kill myself than the my name to reddit.
1 songthatendstheworld 2018-08-23
LEARN TO FUCKING TYPE
1 totalrandomperson 2018-08-23
Tie my name to reddit.
Better?
1 SlightDelivery 2018-08-23
That's racist, you fucking nigger.
1 Neon_needles 2018-08-23
Fat Asian lady killed by mayo from heart attack. Mayocide posts baffle Alex Jones.
1 Zeriell 2018-08-23
I'd be way more inclined to not trust the farm here since they have incentive to say otherwise.
On the other hand, it would be a pretty dumb thing to lie about, so who knows.
1 duckraul2 2018-08-23
iirc on a npr segment I heard, the e verify system is kind of 'dumb' in that if you basically give it any valid SS# or whatever it asks, it comes back positive. It's basically plausible deniability for legal status for industries that traditionally use a lot of undocumented labor.
1 moush 2018-08-23
If he's here legally, it will just help reinforce the want for stricter immigration even more.
1 conspiracy_ratchet 2018-08-23
Omg who cares. So what if he used a fake name hes legal now and dead white girls arent a real problem.
1 ShinJoe 2018-08-23
Of course he was. Obongo made every illegal a "Dreamer".
1 Shitposting_Skeleton 2018-08-23
*Bush
1 GandalftheChromatic 2018-08-23
*Reagan Amnesty
1 myshl0ng 2018-08-23
Day no to white bo........hnghhhhh noooooobplease nooooooooo
Unzips pants
Rape sounds
Bashes head in with a rock thud
Smacks lips we wuz conquistadors n mierda
Dumps freshly fucked mayo pussy in a cornfield
ROFL
Ai caramba starts playing
1 duckraul2 2018-08-23
What is this
1 Lvl100SkrubRekker 2018-08-23
Comedy faggot
1 duckraul2 2018-08-23
Sure fooled me
1 le_epic_xd 2018-08-23
He's a comedy faggot?
1 RecallRethuglicans 2018-08-23
You should just stick to regular faggotry
1 shut_up_frank 2018-08-23
Cringe
1 Che_Gueporna 2018-08-23
How does one rape a sound?
1 SlightDelivery 2018-08-23
I see you've never listened to Post Malone.
1 serialflamingo 2018-08-23
HAHAHA XD
1 UmbellateSaxhorn 2018-08-23
Somebody BTFO
1 cochnbahls 2018-08-23
Well this is just further proof that the whole system is confusing as fuck and makes no sense. How is it so fucking difficult to determine immigration status.
1 watermark02 2018-08-23
That just means we need to deport the legals too. Duh stupid libtard.
1 cuteman 2018-08-23
If he was DACA before he won't be after this.