You're not even trying to be witty or anything, you're just circlejerking. How does it feel literally karma whoring, like, actually just being a human who cares enough to type multiple comments for no purpose except to draw a nearby majority's attention to the fact that you agree with them?
I really don't understand what they're getting at though. Can someone explain? Isn't like one company or administration or whatever providing food for everyone like the end goal of communism?
The end goal of communism is the STATE doing that, and corporations effectively being non-existent. It's dumb, I'd rather have, like, some things be state provided and everything else left to the free market.
If our economy will always become monopolistic regardless of economic system, why not have the monopolies be government run so we can vote on what they do?
Everybody. Split all voting into districts of 1000 or so people. Then when people vote they give a copy of their voting paper or whatever to both the government and district. At the end of the election all the totals per district can be publication released, and any district that doubts the results can check their district's totals versus what the government says their district's total is, which would provide voting anonymity while still allowing oversight.
The key with government is to have as much stuff as possible done via direct democracy or local communities as opposed to large scale democracy. It's easier to notice that there are fake votes in your local town of 1000 than it is to notice there are fake votes in a country of 300 million
Democracy is just one more safety net. It's not a catch-all solution to society's evils.
The individual you mentioned could also exist as a political leader under any other system, but the democratic process would at least make him work more to put his shitbaggery in motion.
Yeah but it makes it harder to be corrupt. And the only reason capitalism isn't corrupt is because it allows corruption by definition. Capitalism that fucks over x group is just capitalism. But socialism that fucks over said group is seen as failed. By allowing failure as part of your ideology you cannot progress.
Strangely enough the end goal of communism (at least how Marx thought it) is the eradication of the state, it just requires the state to take over everything beforehand and usher in a post capitalist society.
Its an honored tradition. Americans can recognize propaganda from their governments, but they're absolutely retarded when it comes to foreign countries and their propaganda machines.
60% of the country doesn't believe in the media. If the MSM were able to piss off enough democrats (the only political demographic with a majority trust in the media, and even then only at 51%), you'd get bipartisan backing of press restrictions out of sheer spite.
That infographic hasn't been updated in 10 years, and it was dumb then anyway. Kraft Foods doesn't exist in any way at all today for instance, it's been split up and bought out. And tons of food isn't covered here, this is like 20% of all food at most
It's dumb even if it had most food. All those products that belong to a single brand all have different characteristics, it you want to look at some dangerous consolidation look at the media, special, the news.
Right on. KFC and Taco Bell are owned by the same parent company, and so they're exactly the same. Free will is an illusion, but they can't fool me with their (((trickery))).
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-08-29
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1 NotGonnaCooment 2018-08-29
I'm sorry Snappy, i'm trying to change but it's really hard π’
1 TheRealTrueDarkLord 2018-08-29
Feels like normal whoring, only less messy.
1 NotGonnaCooment 2018-08-29
https://www.reddit.com/r/socialism/comments/9b8mlc/the_illusion_of_choice/
1 clamdigger90 2018-08-29
I really don't understand what they're getting at though. Can someone explain? Isn't like one company or administration or whatever providing food for everyone like the end goal of communism?
1 charcharmunro 2018-08-29
The end goal of communism is the STATE doing that, and corporations effectively being non-existent. It's dumb, I'd rather have, like, some things be state provided and everything else left to the free market.
1 I_BET_UR_MAD 2018-08-29
If our economy will always become monopolistic regardless of economic system, why not have the monopolies be government run so we can vote on what they do?
1 TheRealTrueDarkLord 2018-08-29
Okay, but who counts the votes?
1 I_BET_UR_MAD 2018-08-29
Everybody. Split all voting into districts of 1000 or so people. Then when people vote they give a copy of their voting paper or whatever to both the government and district. At the end of the election all the totals per district can be publication released, and any district that doubts the results can check their district's totals versus what the government says their district's total is, which would provide voting anonymity while still allowing oversight.
The key with government is to have as much stuff as possible done via direct democracy or local communities as opposed to large scale democracy. It's easier to notice that there are fake votes in your local town of 1000 than it is to notice there are fake votes in a country of 300 million
1 Folf_IRL 2018-08-29
What happens when the unfettered tyranny of the majority results in harm to a minority group?
1 Nemesysbr 2018-08-29
Democracy is just one more safety net. It's not a catch-all solution to society's evils.
The individual you mentioned could also exist as a political leader under any other system, but the democratic process would at least make him work more to put his shitbaggery in motion.
1 michgot 2018-08-29
Oh, so like Trump.
1 I_BET_UR_MAD 2018-08-29
Yeah but it makes it harder to be corrupt. And the only reason capitalism isn't corrupt is because it allows corruption by definition. Capitalism that fucks over x group is just capitalism. But socialism that fucks over said group is seen as failed. By allowing failure as part of your ideology you cannot progress.
1 KingWayneX 2018-08-29
Like segregation...
1 livear 2018-08-29
AKA The right of free association.
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1 Abigbumhole 2018-08-29
Strangely enough the end goal of communism (at least how Marx thought it) is the eradication of the state, it just requires the state to take over everything beforehand and usher in a post capitalist society.
1 michgot 2018-08-29
Genius
1 cleverseneca 2018-08-29
That actually is a lot of choice, there only needs to be like 3 companies in any given industry to Foster competition, I count like 10 there.
1 Honk4Tits 2018-08-29
imagine not being a breatharian.
1 respaaaaaj 2018-08-29
wow western leftists biting hook line and sinker on Prussian propaganda. What year is it?
1 NotGonnaCooment 2018-08-29
Year of the Lord MMXVIII.
1 bennysanders 2018-08-29
We only use Arabic numerals here
1 DistortedLines 2018-08-29
Its an honored tradition. Americans can recognize propaganda from their governments, but they're absolutely retarded when it comes to foreign countries and their propaganda machines.
1 istural 2018-08-29
Itβs because most Americans are retarded.
1 AwanBros 2018-08-29
1 Zeriell 2018-08-29
Since when? The media is like 50% government propaganda, and most people believe the media, so doubt.png.
1 -absolutego- 2018-08-29
60% of the country doesn't believe in the media. If the MSM were able to piss off enough democrats (the only political demographic with a majority trust in the media, and even then only at 51%), you'd get bipartisan backing of press restrictions out of sheer spite.
1 Allur0 2018-08-29
I mean this is like a decades old repost tho
1 CocoNutsOn 2018-08-29
Yes it does make you think. What to have for dinner and snacks.
1 uniqueguy263 2018-08-29
That infographic hasn't been updated in 10 years, and it was dumb then anyway. Kraft Foods doesn't exist in any way at all today for instance, it's been split up and bought out. And tons of food isn't covered here, this is like 20% of all food at most
1 the_popcorn_pisser 2018-08-29
It's dumb even if it had most food. All those products that belong to a single brand all have different characteristics, it you want to look at some dangerous consolidation look at the media, special, the news.
1 istural 2018-08-29
I wonder who owns Sputnik and RT? π€π€π€π€
1 OnionBits 2018-08-29
Imagine not only trusting Russian sources in 2016+2
1 michgot 2018-08-29
Uhm, I think you mean current year + 3, sweaty.
1 loli_esports 2018-08-29
wheres kirkland signature???
1 BasicallyADoctor 2018-08-29
I buy all my stuff from Costco in bulk or from Amazon, take that brand
1 TheRealTrueDarkLord 2018-08-29
I make my own stuff on my own...take that Costco and Amazon.
1 PunishedCuckLoldamar 2018-08-29
Who cares where its from, its still true.
1 Ranilen 2018-08-29
Right on. KFC and Taco Bell are owned by the same parent company, and so they're exactly the same. Free will is an illusion, but they can't fool me with their (((trickery))).
1 clamdigger90 2018-08-29
They're saying that you don't get a choice in provider and that's a bad thing, which is a real head scratcher coming from a communist.
1 cleverseneca 2018-08-29
You do get a choice by their own admission, there's 10 choices there and those are just the big ones.
1 ElegantConvictionAdv 2018-08-29
something something russian bots ree
1 Catorak 2018-08-29
Coke and Monster are owned by the same company so they're clearly the same product. Whoever made this is a fucking retard.
1 CanadianCartman 2018-08-29
That isn't what they're saying at all, you fucking retard.
1 VioletBroregarde 2018-08-29
Here's the full image: http://i.imgur.com/k0pv0.jpg
Just because it came from Russia doesn't mean it's inaccurate (ok it's possibly out-of-date). Those 10 companies have a huge number of brands.
1 PUBLIQclopAccountant 2018-08-29
Whenever I look at this, I imagine all the duplicative and wasteful jobs this system creates.
1 Ranilen 2018-08-29
Those poor souls are wasting away in cubicles and offices when they could be aiding the revolution by getting put up against the wall.