Which side should a radical centrist take when a moderator is threatening another moderator with rape? [Dusty, Months-old Thrones drama]

34  2018-09-01 by SandorClegane_AMA

The great thing about epic-length agenda posting is you can just copy and paste it, until someone starts to give a shit. We know about GallowBoobs misconduct, but how about the extreme measures taken by two mods of a 400K member sub, the third most popular on reddit for the Hobbit-porn HBO show?

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Context

Game of Thrones is a popular HBO television series, adapted from the ASOIAF series of novels by George R. R. Martin. Key characteristics of the books and show that lead to so much internet drama:

  • The author writes epic pot boilers with humongous plot twists. Therefore some people are pathologically fearful of spoilers. This is a recipe for excessive moderation.
  • The author does remarkable world building and morons have convinced themselves the secondary world is a real place. They then elaborate bizarre fan fiction in the guise of 'theories.' Others get into 'shipping' some of the characters, which is too fucked up to discuss in this refined gentleman's club we call /r/Drama. Either way, they get possessive of that which is not theirs, and if you combine these things with the usual moderator power trip, you find tiny power leads to crackers trippin' balls.
  • The author has been trolling the fans since the year of our Lord of light two thousand, with slower and slower book releases. The publication of the books got slower and the plots in the books got slower.
  • The mean jocks who run the TV show said 'We don't give a shit' and worked their own way directly towards an ending - from 2015 onwards. George said 'By Gumbo!' and they laughed at him.
  • In 2017, top fan subs on reddit for this nerd shit were - 1. Freefolk, 2. Game of Thrones, 3. ASOIAF.
  • Today, top fan subs on reddit for this nerd shit are the reverse - 1. ASOIAF. 2. Game of Thrones, 3. Freefolk. These positions are based on active users, not subscribers.

The Birth

  1. The first four episode of Game of Thrones season 5 were given to journalists on DVD, to prepare their reviews.
  2. Journalist puts the episodes up on Bittorrent or some shit.
  3. Do we want to watch these episodes? Fuck yeah! We were sweet summer children. What did we know of 'the bad pussy'? Fight scene choreography is not to be rushed, my little lord, even when the location is a UNESCO heritage site and the knife stabs come 0.25 seconds late. Fear is for the bad Chilean accent, when the British luvvies sound absurd, and little children are born and live and die all in darkness thinking they should have stuck to the book plot while the direwolves grow gaunt and hungry looking for anything interesting even in the book version, and the white walkers are still moaning about it on Youtube to this day. Sorry, I went off-topic there. Where was I?
  4. Some idiots who moderate /r/GameOfThrones and /r/ASOIAF decide that they won't allow unauthorised links to copyrighted material and they won't allow any discussion of the plot points.
  5. Here's the thing: they would not allow it anywhere on reddit. They crossed a line in attempting to prevent discussion in other subs. They did this by banning anyone who mentions the other subreddits or engages in any debate of the policy. This is a theme that we will revisit.
  6. The 2015 drama over this was the biggest thing on reddit until spez or some shit.
  7. The rebels create /r/Freefolk. Mottos: "Say what you want" and "We do not kneel." Kneeling means submitting to the complex yet vague ruleset that the toxic nerds had created in the two big subs.
  8. The interests of Freefolk moderators included but were not limited to:
  • Growing a community for refugees from the kneeler subs.
  • Discussing the show and the books without concern for spoilers. Either you are caught up or you do not care about spoilers.
  • Issuing threats to women that you will rape them in real life.
  • Acting as contacts for people with information to leak from the show.
  • Memes.

The Adolescence Wait, did you say rape threats?

  1. Now, one of those items on the list of interests sticks out a little, but we will return to that in a moment. The moderator who likes to make the threats will be referred to as the "ex-con mod" from here on.
  2. I was a moderator of /r/Freefolk for one week in 2016. This was in response to my liberation of /r/ASOIAFCirclejerk and ideas for collaboration between /r/CleganeBowl and /r/Freefolk. I advocated energetically for /r/Freefolk as the lightly moderated Thrones forum that the internet desperately needed. There was constant conflict with the ex-con mod. He exemplifies the case for implementing eugenics better than anyone I have ever encountered on reddit. He lacked the nuance to understand CleganeBowl and therefore labelled me a troll. I was enjoying some fine cocktails one night and I pranked them into thinking that /u/Jen_Snow was now top mod, by changing the stylesheet. Jen is the muscle on the /r/ASOIAF mod team. Top active mod takes ex-cons side. Removed as moderator. Worth it.
  3. A mod I will refer to as "the new bitch" was added in 2017.
  4. They took a vote to change the rules of the sub. Only a small percentage of the subscribers participated in the vote or were even aware of it.
  5. The new rules were ambiguous and applied arbitrarily. For example "No excessive politics / racism." Depending on the mod, that means no politics at all.
  6. Ex-con is the only moderator from the original gang who is active.
  7. The new bitch and the ex-con dominate the sub and the moderation.
  8. As previously mentioned: I advocated energetically for /r/Freefolk as the lightly moderated Thrones forum that the internet desperately needed. When they changed it, I still advocated for that.
  9. The new bitch methodically keeps track of meta discussion or criticism of their actions in other sub. She is a pathological liar and a narcissist. She created a narrative that I was romantically interested in her. Perhaps that is because she is "San-San shipper" (these are the equivalent of Twilight fans, and they fantasise that when they were 13 years old and still under 300 lbs, an adult man was in love with them). She may be confused about this account and not understand that Sandor Clegane is a fictional character.
  10. Moderators of Freefolk effectively shadowbanned me by implementing an automoderator rule to delete my posts and comments.
  11. I debate this with them via modmail and they permanently ban me. They care naught for 'muh freeze peaches' or their own rules. Mediators call this 'escalation.'
  12. The Freefolk sub, which was spawned by a rebellion against /r/GameOfThrones and /r/ASOIAF moderation now spawned its own rebellion - /r/MaestersOfTheFreefolk. I was not involved in this, or even aware of it when it happened. In any event, this drove the new bitch and the ex-con insane.
  13. They banned all the MaestersOfTheFreefolk moderators. They unbanned one of them and then reported his alt account to the admins for ban evasion. Context: the admins are employees of reddit. This resulted in the suspension of his reddit account. He was eventually able to get this reversed. Point is, they lied to cause an account suspension.
  14. The ex-con created an account to impersonate one of their mods and bragged about raping children. This was brought to the attention of the admins. Ex-con had his reddit account suspended. I asked him why, he said he didn't know you impersonation is deemed harassment - as if the pedophilia stuff was irrelevant.
  15. Ex-con creates an alt. account, new bitch adds him back as a moderator.
  16. More hilarious shenanigans.
  17. Turns out ex-con made an account years before called 'MaisieWilliamsVagina.' Maisie Williams is a Game of Thrones actress who had recently turned 18. He deemed her fair game and trolled the sub he moderates with this account. Even the Freefolk mods were shocked when they discovered this.
  18. Ex-con keeps sending rape threats to one of the moderators of /r/MaestersOfTheFreefolk and gets all his alts suspended. Main account is suspended permanently. We will refer to lady in question as 'his prey.' This is relevant - she is actually extremely good looking in real life, and the new bitch is not. Imagine George R.R. Martin is trans and has just started hormone treatment and his her beard has fallen out. I choose to make that description ambiguous in terms of whether I am describing the new bitch or the prey. It is entirely unclear which I find most arousing.
  19. The official sequel to the Tom Cruise movie 'Edge of Tomorrow' will be titled 'Suspended - New account - Remodded - Starts harrassment - Repeat' and is coming to your local multiplex in 2021.
  20. The ex-con and the new bitch are in constant conflict with this other moderator. Drama all over the shop, including on /r/ASOIAFCirclejerk sub. New bitch stops just shy of blatant rule violation, but is tag teaming with ex-con. I guess he specialises in the rape threats because the brother has a dick, and the new bitch does not.
  21. More hilarious shenanigans. New bitch creates a narrative that she is the victim of sexual harrassment and lies to the admins about moderators of /r/CleganeBowl and /r/ASOIAFCirclejerk.
  22. Investigate? Admins ain't got time for that, just hand out suspensions.
  23. At the time of writing, the ex-con has his mod account suspended. He is in double digits on permanent suspension scorecard at this point. His suspended account is still the bottom moderator of /r/Freefolk.
  24. He created another alt. account, because reasons, and is asking his prey to forgive him.
  25. All of this conflict is a result of Freefolk moderators deciding they would not suffer criticism in other subreddits. They crossed a line in attempting to prevent discussion outside their perview. This is exactly the same thing that happened with /r/ASOIAF in 2015. They named and shamed and harassed /u/Jen_Snow for years for that. I have the worlds smallest violin here, but can't find it because it is very small. If I could find it I would play a sad tune on that tiny violin, inspired by what happened to Ms. Snow.
  26. What is the difference now? We are in a period called 'The Long Night.' There will be no episodes of Game of Thrones broadcast this year and George R.R. Martin will not be publishing the book people have been waiting for. So nobody cares and the bulk of fans are ignoring Game of Thrones.
  27. /r/Freefolk needs to update the sidebar to reflect their 2018 rules: "Say what the mods want" and "You will kneel or be banned."

The Death

What the discerning fan of internet drama really wants to know is what does the future hold. The smart money is taking a long position in the Game of Thrones internet catfight derivatives market for 2019 - 2023. Events forecast are:

  • Leaks from production of pilot for 'Age of Heroes' - the HBO Thrones successor show set in Westeros. Outrage about everything, especially if there is any diversity.
  • Transmission of Season 8 of Game of Thrones in Q1/Q2.
  • Whining about Season 8.
  • Adulation when Season 8, Episode 5, is broadcast with the title 'Kinslayer'. CleganeBowl confirmed - posts about it reach /r/All and kneelers petition the gods from respite when the spoilers are all over reddit.
  • Outrage at Game of Thrones finale.
  • 35% probability of leaks of the plots or video of one or more episodes, hours or weeks before broadcast.
  • Spoiler trolling using aformentioned leaks.
  • If you want to get in on the spoiler trolling early, know this: The red priestess Melisandre has a huge role to play in a battle against the Night King's Army of The Dead (A.K.A 'wights'). She raises the dead dead (not a typo) and turns them against the Night King. NecromancyBowl Confirmed. Get Zombies.
  • Dramatic migration to new reddit sub for Game of Thrones and spinoffs.
  • Q3 2019: When the show furore dies down, GRRM will announce the completion of book six, 'The Winds of Winter.'
  • Every mod on /r/ASOIAF was wrong about everything and starts banning critics, or resigning, or cancelling their Patreon funded podcasts.
  • /r/GameOfThrones continue posting pictures of cakes, and being morons.
  • 2020 Spinoff show season one airs. Peoples reactions will be measured and appropriate. You will get so sick of seeing drama posts about it you will pray to the god Spez to do anything to distract from the stream of angry nerd rants. Anything.
  • 2021: Due to a widely foreseen tragedy, book seven, 'A Dream of Spring', is shelved. The notes and drafts are destroyed. Some people will speak intemperately about it, others will caution them and that always goes well.
  • 2022: Spinoff show is in trouble. Pilot for another spinoff is in development. Rival show runners start leaking to the press to undermine each other.
  • 2023: The reddit redesign becomes usable, people get something positive to talk about after 3rd HBO 'grimdark' fantasy TV show dominates reddit.
12 comments

I am not sure which is more cringey, the litany of erroneous assumptions you splayed out or the act of calling upon the student archetype with the intent of derision. Anti-intellectualism, check. src

Snapshots:

  1. This Post - archive.org, megalodon.jp*, removeddit.com, archive.is

  2. /r/Drama - archive.org, megalodon.jp*, archive.is*

  3. The mean jocks who run the TV show - archive.org, megalodon.jp*, archive.is*

  4. /r/GameOfThrones - archive.org, megalodon.jp*, archive.is*

  5. /r/ASOIAF - archive.org, megalodon.jp*, archive.is*

  6. /r/Freefolk - archive.org, megalodon.jp*, archive.is*

  7. /r/ASOIAFCirclejerk - archive.org, megalodon.jp*, archive.is*

  8. /r/CleganeBowl - archive.org, megalodon.jp*, archive.is*

  9. /u/Jen_Snow - archive.org, megalodon.jp*, archive.is*

  10. /r/MaestersOfTheFreefolk - archive.org, megalodon.jp*, archive.is*

  11. /r/All - archive.org, megalodon.jp*, archive.is*

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The radical take is to not post this shit again

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Don't you think this is way too long for a drama post

if you have to ask "What side do i take" you are not a radical centrist you stupid faggot.

Which side should a radical centrist take when a moderator is threatening another moderator with rape?

It was a test. You failed. Just like mom always said you would.

radical centrist

taking a side

you fucking idiot.

Haha! Nerd

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i didn't read this shit but i'm a staunch supporter of sexually assaulting internet moderators

Where's alt you use to post on /r/GoneWild and I will consider it.

A radical centrist would force the accusing moderator to rape the accused moderator and then support a mutual lawsuit