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It's not like the aoc varies from country to country, even in 1st world countries. So what might get you high fives in country A could land you in jail in country B. But of course age is a totally objective measurement, sure.
no, all I'm saying is that people will often base their belief on whether an action is moral or not on whether the age of the involved is higher than the arbitrary age of consent where they happen to live.
E.g. it's legal to fuck a 14 yo here. But when I say this on here some people call me a pedo for it, which isn't even technically correct, and imply that it's still wrong, only because the aoc where they live is probably 16 or 18.
If you checked the age of the organism cellularly, it would indicate the age of its perception, because relativist effects aren't a matter of perception. You can say 'This person has been gone 18 months', but their cells will still say 'This person is 18 years old'.
Assuming we are still talking about relativistic events.
Relative isn't the same as subjective. The distance between me and (for example) New York is different than the distance between you and New York; it's relative to where we are. That doesn't mean it isn't objective. And time passing at a different rate may complicate the math for answering questions like "how long", but it's still objective. It's just also relative.
It's not subjective at all to the person doing the aging.
The individual experiences the same aging process and the rate does change relative to themselves. Two people in different places, effected by different speeds or under the effects of different masses, would age differently compared to one another, but they will have both experienced the same 'year' by their own reckoning.
This is not as simple a question as you make it out to be.
So, just to be clear, you think both the passage of time and measurements of distances are subjective? The laws of time and space are dependent on personal feelings and opinions?
Passage of time and space depends on the observer. Any information about the age/length is only true from the observer point of view, which is exactly what subjectivity is.
Dependent on the mind or on an individual's perception for its existence.
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You know that's just restating and contextualizing what I wrote, right? It's not even listed separately on the page you linked - it's a subentry under it. You can tell by the way it's numbered 1.1 instead of 2.
Or are you trying to say you can time travel with your mind, or if you fell into coma time would freeze since you couldn't percieve it?
The time spent is something that only an observer can determine. You can't say that something is "3 year old in the absolute". You can say that they are 3 year old according to Tim (who is the observer here)". The same way you can't say that something is "good in the absolute", while you can say something is "good according to Tim".
Everybody who sees a clock, no matter what frame of reference they and the clock are into, will agree on the number of ticks. They will only disagree on their frequency. Likewise, all observers will agree on the age of a person.
talks about loving free speech but supports antifa punching randos because "well they're only punching fashists, I mean it's in their name"
Alright, go to an antifa rally and say something like "I don't like Trump but he's not Hitler" and watch the understanding and enlightened side of antifa pull you to the ground and start kicking you.
I mean I don't buy into the whole hatespeech thing but it has the same justification as the civil rights act. You have the freedom to refuse services to anyone, but not if it's because of a protected class. Similarly, you have the freedom to insult or criticise anyone, but not if it's because they are a member of a protected class.
What's the argument against it? We can't "ban" racism as no one agrees what the hell it even is and it being allowed just allows us to easily see who is a stupid ass and who isn't.
I liked when Bros dressed like this rather than like Jake Paul. Can we go back to popped colors and stupid sunglasses and guys saying "breh" all the time?
I agree. In much the same way I think strawberries are disgusting, but don't go around telling other people to stop eating strawberries.
We're better off if everyone knows what kind of asshole everyone else is, than with smug cunts pretending to be good people while they act like petty tyrants and jack-asses.
My radical centrist opinion is that the discussion of how the society should work must allow all opinions including racist opinions such that we'd be better off if all mayos are to be quarantined in mayo reservations.
But it shall not be allowed for anyone to go and break windows of mayo stores to force them to go to their reservations until and unless we all agreed on that course of action.
The meme refers to racism as a belief system, i.e. thinking there are different races, possibly organized in a hierarchy. This kind of racism doesn't require any action, or even speech per se, it's just an inherent part of a person that actions and words occasinally reveal.
Just like racism should be allowed, no one else should be fored to embrace it. Call racists whatever name you want, and feel free to boycott places that employs them, making them undesirable.
Racism, and social backlash against racism shouldn't be banned.
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1 Alicesnakebae 2018-09-29
Redditers be like
1 mukumukum9 2018-09-29
Hell yeas blaze it fuck, meth too!
So progressive man species just a social construct!
Myh body, muh rights! (smugface)
yasss tolerance, It's totallynotchildabuseorsexualizationofminorsbtw.
Yeah, age is just a number.
No humans is illegal!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
1 YameteOtosanItai 2018-09-29
It's not like the aoc varies from country to country, even in 1st world countries. So what might get you high fives in country A could land you in jail in country B. But of course age is a totally objective measurement, sure.
1 Ranilen 2018-09-29
Yes, age is literally an objective measurement. It's measurable and doesn't change based on opinions.
1 YameteOtosanItai 2018-09-29
it's not an objective measurement for whether an action is moral or not.
1 mukumukum9 2018-09-29
So morally there's no difference between the acts of fucking a 18-months old and an 18-years old?
1 YameteOtosanItai 2018-09-29
no, all I'm saying is that people will often base their belief on whether an action is moral or not on whether the age of the involved is higher than the arbitrary age of consent where they happen to live.
E.g. it's legal to fuck a 14 yo here. But when I say this on here some people call me a pedo for it, which isn't even technically correct, and imply that it's still wrong, only because the aoc where they live is probably 16 or 18.
1 mukumukum9 2018-09-29
So what your saying is that you want to fuck children?
1 YameteOtosanItai 2018-09-29
I said 14 and teens are not children. Also it's not my fault that white women peak so early.
1 mukumukum9 2018-09-29
14 is a child psychologically.
1 YameteOtosanItai 2018-09-29
Most white women are at 25 still ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1 mukumukum9 2018-09-29
Most 25 year olds understand consent and agency. Most 14 year old have flawed, if any notion in regards to consent and agency.
1 YameteOtosanItai 2018-09-29
maybe, they're hotter tho.
1 mukumukum9 2018-09-29
I've been with girls in there mid 20s that could pass for 13. If you have to fuck a kids to get your kicks, you need a bullet to your dicks.
1 YameteOtosanItai 2018-09-29
Yeah, those are the best ones. Wish there were more of them though ...
1 ThatDamnedImp 2018-09-29
Not nearly, that is well above the age of reason. They are not adults, but neither are they children.
Compare the psychology of a 10 year old to that of a 14 year old, and tell me that a healthy specimen of each is alike.
1 ThatDamnedImp 2018-09-29
If you checked the age of the organism cellularly, it would indicate the age of its perception, because relativist effects aren't a matter of perception. You can say 'This person has been gone 18 months', but their cells will still say 'This person is 18 years old'.
Assuming we are still talking about relativistic events.
1 Ranilen 2018-09-29
Age isn't a subjective measurement of the morality of an action either. It's a measurement of how long someone has been alive.
1 error404brain 2018-09-29
What is relativity.
1 Ranilen 2018-09-29
Relative isn't the same as subjective. The distance between me and (for example) New York is different than the distance between you and New York; it's relative to where we are. That doesn't mean it isn't objective. And time passing at a different rate may complicate the math for answering questions like "how long", but it's still objective. It's just also relative.
1 error404brain 2018-09-29
3 year in one place is not the same as 3 years in another place. That's subjective as fuck.
1 ThatDamnedImp 2018-09-29
It's not subjective at all to the person doing the aging.
The individual experiences the same aging process and the rate does change relative to themselves. Two people in different places, effected by different speeds or under the effects of different masses, would age differently compared to one another, but they will have both experienced the same 'year' by their own reckoning.
This is not as simple a question as you make it out to be.
1 error404brain 2018-09-29
This is your brain on objectivism.
1 Ranilen 2018-09-29
So, just to be clear, you think both the passage of time and measurements of distances are subjective? The laws of time and space are dependent on personal feelings and opinions?
1 error404brain 2018-09-29
Passage of time and space depends on the observer. Any information about the age/length is only true from the observer point of view, which is exactly what subjectivity is.
1 Ranilen 2018-09-29
🤔🤔🤔
1 error404brain 2018-09-29
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/subjective
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1 Ranilen 2018-09-29
You know that's just restating and contextualizing what I wrote, right? It's not even listed separately on the page you linked - it's a subentry under it. You can tell by the way it's numbered 1.1 instead of 2.
Or are you trying to say you can time travel with your mind, or if you fell into coma time would freeze since you couldn't percieve it?
1 error404brain 2018-09-29
The time spent is something that only an observer can determine. You can't say that something is "3 year old in the absolute". You can say that they are 3 year old according to Tim (who is the observer here)". The same way you can't say that something is "good in the absolute", while you can say something is "good according to Tim".
1 imstartingtogetangry 2018-09-29
Proper time is objective and agreed upon by observers.
1 error404brain 2018-09-29
Wew, lad.
1 imstartingtogetangry 2018-09-29
Everybody who sees a clock, no matter what frame of reference they and the clock are into, will agree on the number of ticks. They will only disagree on their frequency. Likewise, all observers will agree on the age of a person.
1 error404brain 2018-09-29
Nah. If I see a random clock, that I don't know the speed of relative to me, I won't agree with the number of click someone else might have.
1 Tetragrade 2018-09-29
The age of consent should be 35.
1 dratamard2 2018-09-29
i knew this would be you 😂😂😂
1 LightUmbra 2018-09-29
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/S_ozRNyUZNI/maxresdefault.jpg
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-09-29
https://i.imgur.com/kZAt0x8.png
1 reallyrunningnow 2018-09-29
Only on r/drama
1 22333444455555666666 2018-09-29
i unironically think life would be better if every single human being became mute (including being unable to type)
free speech out
1 GreasyPeter 2018-09-29
Alright, go to an antifa rally and say something like "I don't like Trump but he's not Hitler" and watch the understanding and enlightened side of antifa pull you to the ground and start kicking you.
1 ragnathorn 2018-09-29
Free speech is gay
1 charming_tainter 2018-09-29
🚨🚨GO BACK TO YOUR CAMP. THERE IS A CURFEW AND POST LIMIT FOE REFUGEES🚨🚨, 🚨🚨YOU ARE BREAKING BOTH🚨🚨
1 le_epic_xd 2018-09-29
1 Skyright 2018-09-29
I mean I don't buy into the whole hatespeech thing but it has the same justification as the civil rights act. You have the freedom to refuse services to anyone, but not if it's because of a protected class. Similarly, you have the freedom to insult or criticise anyone, but not if it's because they are a member of a protected class.
1 ZMowlcher 2018-09-29
What ultraconservative rock did you crawl out if the equate weed and meth? Also, dogfucking IS legal in like 10 states so you already lost that one.
1 imissyouseattle 2018-09-29
Imagine getting offended about a joke about weed
1 SirIllic 2018-09-29
There's civilization outside of 1/5 of America you know.
1 ZMowlcher 2018-09-29
Well one state is Nevada so there's that.
1 4ntonvalley 2018-09-29
Someone needs to give me the background on 'REEEE' it's hilarious as fuck even though I'm ignorant.
1 stalejokesunlimited 2018-09-29
I unironically believe this
1 Fletch71011 2018-09-29
What's the argument against it? We can't "ban" racism as no one agrees what the hell it even is and it being allowed just allows us to easily see who is a stupid ass and who isn't.
1 shiwanshu_ 2018-09-29
Social humiliation and outcasting of anyone who doesn't conform to the current zeitgeist.
1 JamesRobotoMD 2018-09-29
It really sucks how in current year society has things that it thinks are good and bad :(
1 shiwanshu_ 2018-09-29
Oh no I commented this unironically
1 LightUmbra 2018-09-29
SHAME
1 leva549 2018-09-29
theres actually zero difference between good & bad things. you imbecile. you fucking moron
1 Snowayne2 2018-09-29
Idk man, how could there possibly be arguments for society banning certain things?
1 PuffyPineapple 2018-09-29
Did you just state a defined word is undefined? The concept of racism can be grasped by the simplest of minds.
1 PierligBouloven 2018-09-29
I agree, but only if it is racism against mayos
1 -4x- 2018-09-29
Mayos and t*rks
1 -4x- 2018-09-29
And Greeks
1 -4x- 2018-09-29
Italians too
1 PierligBouloven 2018-09-29
Also Irish people
1 Brandon_la_rana 2018-09-29
Pretty sure we said mayos already no need to restate the obvious
1 PierligBouloven 2018-09-29
Irish people are not wait. It's like you've never heard of victorian science
1 PeskyPapaya 2018-09-29
It's current year, as much as they hate being mayo (who wouldn't?) they are.
1 -Kite-Man- 2018-09-29
They're more like pimento miracle whip.
1 DistortedLines 2018-09-29
The "Irish" are not people. They are a separate subspecies that split up thousands of years ago.
1 YameteOtosanItai 2018-09-29
they invented gayness!
1 102938475601 2018-09-29
And pedophilia!
1 cmakk1012 2018-09-29
Trks are just Gr*ks that follow the religion of peace, CMV
1 georgeapg 2018-09-29
And that makes them less than dogs.
1 transoceanicdeath 2018-09-29
which is how much? dogs are pretty great.
1 georgeapg 2018-09-29
Normal people think dogs are great.... muzzies not so much.
1 sooth_ 2018-09-29
same thing
1 ironicshitpostr 2018-09-29
They'd have to be people for it to be racism
1 dratamard2 2018-09-29
🙌🙌🙌 r/mayos 🙌🙌🙌
join us brother
1 [deleted] 2018-09-29
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1 Dessert42 2018-09-29
R A D I C A L C E N T R I S M
1 gaynazifurry4bernie 2018-09-29
How about Radical Racialist Centrism?
1 4ntonvalley 2018-09-29
Radical precise centrism of median from a circle in the middle of a radius pointing towards a average trend in society as a whole.
1 SignalEvent 2018-09-29
This is what mayos actually believe
1 WouldDoJackMcBrayer 2018-09-29
Whoosh
1 GreasyPeter 2018-09-29
I liked when Bros dressed like this rather than like Jake Paul. Can we go back to popped colors and stupid sunglasses and guys saying "breh" all the time?
1 iprobablyneedahobby 2018-09-29
Same with rappers. The Wu-tang were intimating. Now rappers look like a retarded kid in the 80s was allowed to dress themselves and get face tattoos.
1 transoceanicdeath 2018-09-29
jake paul doesn't wear popped collars and stupid sunglasses?
1 JamesRobotoMD 2018-09-29
Imagine being such a pussy that you can't accept that some of the things you think make other people mad.
1 4ntonvalley 2018-09-29
Imagine being a pussy
1 99jolto99 2018-09-29
Ok retard
1 JamesRobotoMD 2018-09-29
Dude retard lmao
1 99jolto99 2018-09-29
ok retard
1 JamesRobotoMD 2018-09-29
😴
1 dramasexual 2018-09-29
I mean pretty much, yeah.
1 cruelandusual 2018-09-29
I disapprove of what you say, but will punch you square in the face if you try to say it. -Voltaire
1 ThatDamnedImp 2018-09-29
I agree. In much the same way I think strawberries are disgusting, but don't go around telling other people to stop eating strawberries.
We're better off if everyone knows what kind of asshole everyone else is, than with smug cunts pretending to be good people while they act like petty tyrants and jack-asses.
1 seenten 2018-09-29
Are you even a human?
1 PizzaHoe696969 2018-09-29
The correct course of action (the most dramatic) is to redefine racism.
1 zergling_Lester 2018-09-29
Nah, discussing if racism (as in, racist actions) should be allowed should be allowed, unilaterally being racist should not.
1 imissyouseattle 2018-09-29
For starters you barely made it through that sentence. Maybe start with that.
1 zergling_Lester 2018-09-29
I did make through that sentence.
My radical centrist opinion is that the discussion of how the society should work must allow all opinions including racist opinions such that we'd be better off if all mayos are to be quarantined in mayo reservations.
But it shall not be allowed for anyone to go and break windows of mayo stores to force them to go to their reservations until and unless we all agreed on that course of action.
Read http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/05/02/be-nice-at-least-until-you-can-coordinate-meanness/ which also gets the Nobel prize for the most misleading post title ever.
1 Ylajali_2002 2018-09-29
> mayos circa 1818: racism is great, everybody should be a racist
> mayos circa 2018: guys stop saying were all pedophiles, don't you know that racism is bad
1 zergling_Lester 2018-09-29
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/9jwstm/literally_unironically_this/e6vku0c/?context=13
1 imstartingtogetangry 2018-09-29
The meme refers to racism as a belief system, i.e. thinking there are different races, possibly organized in a hierarchy. This kind of racism doesn't require any action, or even speech per se, it's just an inherent part of a person that actions and words occasinally reveal.
1 zergling_Lester 2018-09-29
It doesn't say that though, and this is the most important thing about this stuff that must be said. So I said it above.
1 WallConstruction 2018-09-29
Daily reminder that undocumented sex should be charged as a misdemeanor theft.
1 Chin_Up_Chick 2018-09-29
2016 "racism" or 1955 racism???
1 99jolto99 2018-09-29
Definitely 1955 so japanese can be bomb again I hate black
1 znaXTdWhGV 2018-09-29
racism is funny, taking it seriously isn't.
1 thesnakeinthegarden 2018-09-29
Just like racism should be allowed, no one else should be fored to embrace it. Call racists whatever name you want, and feel free to boycott places that employs them, making them undesirable.
Racism, and social backlash against racism shouldn't be banned.
1 Krombopulos-Snake 2018-09-29
Can't we all just come together and wage war on the Lizard People?
1 99jolto99 2018-09-29
Can we all just shot earth out of orbit lmao it would super epic! Fortnight