If their home country wouldn’t take kindly to their gay marriage the. Why would they send them to the un as diplomats in the first place. It’s like the ultimate patronage position.
how are you being this obtuse, the answer is obviously no, they wouldn't. gays and straights have equal protections here and the policy was changed to reflect that.
Sticking your head in the sand and pretending that this policy isn't discriminatory is being obtuse. Tbh this policy change is probably only a distraction anyway.
that's retarded because every single individual has different circumstances so by that logic treating anybody the same as you treat anybody else is discrimination
Fam the only retarded thing here is you. It's discriminatory to treat people with different circumstances the same if the effect on them isn't equal. If they have similar circumstances or if treating them the same despite their different circumstances does not have vastly unequal results, then it isn't discrimination to treat them the same. This really isn't that hard a 5 year old could grasp this concept.
Not really. The exception only applies if the country sending the diplomat agrees to honor the marriage too. Also, UN officials would still be discriminated against since they are ineligible for the "exception."
Countries being ok with gays existing and having diplomatic jobs does not necessarily mean they are ok with allowing gays to get married. It seems discriminatory against bussy since every country in the world allows men and foids to marry but not that many countries appreciate bussy like r/drama does.
If the country is fine with bussy love but against mariage, they won't make a fuss if they get married in the USA, just like the USA was fine with canadian gay mariages before they passed it. If the country gets super tilted, outing yourself as gay is gonna get you fucked in the first place, before you can even start looking into getting married. Tbh I think this is the reason imperialism exist, trumpets needs to bomb the bussy hating countries.
It's not that simple. Accepting some gay marriages will fuck them over domestically because it would become nearly impossible for those countries to hold up a ban in the face of evidence that they accept gay marriage. So they will make a fuss.
Sort of. It still forces the country that sent them to accept the diplomat's gay marriage for the exception to apply tho. And there is no exception for UN officials, only diplomats.
The United States informed foreign governments that they would allow “limited exceptions” to its new policy in cases involving diplomats from countries where same-sex marriage is illegal. But that government would have to provide documentation proving that same-sex marriage was illegal and commit to accepting same-sex partners of U.S. diplomats.
They don't have to accept gay marriage, they just have to commit to accept the.
Accepting one gay marriage would massively undermine gay marriage being illegal in their countries. Any country dead set against bussy wouldn't risk it.
They don't have to get married if its illegal in their country. Their country just has to commit to accept their gay partner, no need for them to marry.
Again why would countries that don't allow gay marriage jump through all these hoops that would only give proponents of gay marriage in their country more ammo?
It's a token "exception" that doesn't actually do anything and is only there so the admin can point to it and disingenuously say they added an exception.
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1 Cholestorol-kun 2018-10-02
we adapt policy influenced by beyonce and people are still mad smh
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-10-02
But he held a gay ass flag so LIBTARDS BTFO LMAO!!
1 Alicesnakebae 2018-10-02
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1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-10-02
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1 LSU_Coonass 2018-10-02
the rules are literally the same for homos and heteroes you tard
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-10-02
No because every country allows hetero marriage but only a few countries allow gay marriage. It's only fair if applied to countries that have both.
1 LSU_Coonass 2018-10-02
you can get gay married in this country, you know, the one with the UN HQ in it
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-10-02
Yes but their home country might not take to kindly to them getting gay married here if it's not allowed back home.
1 LSU_Coonass 2018-10-02
If their home country wouldn’t take kindly to their gay marriage the. Why would they send them to the un as diplomats in the first place. It’s like the ultimate patronage position.
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-10-02
Who the fuck knows. The point is that it's not equal treatment when gay marriage and straight marriage are not recognized equally on a global level.
1 LSU_Coonass 2018-10-02
how are you being this obtuse, the answer is obviously no, they wouldn't. gays and straights have equal protections here and the policy was changed to reflect that.
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-10-02
Sticking your head in the sand and pretending that this policy isn't discriminatory is being obtuse. Tbh this policy change is probably only a distraction anyway.
1 LSU_Coonass 2018-10-02
>treating people the same is discrimination
this is your brain on idpol
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-10-02
Treating people the same when their circumstances are different is discrimination.
1 LSU_Coonass 2018-10-02
that's retarded because every single individual has different circumstances so by that logic treating anybody the same as you treat anybody else is discrimination
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-10-02
Fam the only retarded thing here is you. It's discriminatory to treat people with different circumstances the same if the effect on them isn't equal. If they have similar circumstances or if treating them the same despite their different circumstances does not have vastly unequal results, then it isn't discrimination to treat them the same. This really isn't that hard a 5 year old could grasp this concept.
1 LSU_Coonass 2018-10-02
you are literally too retarded to argue with, have a good day
1 Dungold 2018-10-02
If their home country doesn't recognize same sex marriage theres an exception.
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-10-02
Not really. The exception only applies if the country sending the diplomat agrees to honor the marriage too. Also, UN officials would still be discriminated against since they are ineligible for the "exception."
1 Pepperglue 2018-10-02
Looks like it is consistent to the restrictions put on for hetero couples. Fair enough, I'd say.
I mean, if a country is okay with gay diplomats, chances are that country probably already allows same-sex marriage. Where's the issue?
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-10-02
Countries being ok with gays existing and having diplomatic jobs does not necessarily mean they are ok with allowing gays to get married. It seems discriminatory against bussy since every country in the world allows men and foids to marry but not that many countries appreciate bussy like r/drama does.
1 Dildokin 2018-10-02
If the country is fine with bussy love but against mariage, they won't make a fuss if they get married in the USA, just like the USA was fine with canadian gay mariages before they passed it. If the country gets super tilted, outing yourself as gay is gonna get you fucked in the first place, before you can even start looking into getting married. Tbh I think this is the reason imperialism exist, trumpets needs to bomb the bussy hating countries.
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-10-02
It's not that simple. Accepting some gay marriages will fuck them over domestically because it would become nearly impossible for those countries to hold up a ban in the face of evidence that they accept gay marriage. So they will make a fuss.
1 Dungold 2018-10-02
There's an exception when it's illegal in their home country, bussy is ok
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-10-02
Sort of. It still forces the country that sent them to accept the diplomat's gay marriage for the exception to apply tho. And there is no exception for UN officials, only diplomats.
1 Dungold 2018-10-02
The United States informed foreign governments that they would allow “limited exceptions” to its new policy in cases involving diplomats from countries where same-sex marriage is illegal. But that government would have to provide documentation proving that same-sex marriage was illegal and commit to accepting same-sex partners of U.S. diplomats.
They don't have to accept gay marriage, they just have to commit to accept the.
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-10-02
Accepting one gay marriage would massively undermine gay marriage being illegal in their countries. Any country dead set against bussy wouldn't risk it.
1 Dungold 2018-10-02
They don't have to get married if its illegal in their country. Their country just has to commit to accept their gay partner, no need for them to marry.
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-10-02
Again why would countries that don't allow gay marriage jump through all these hoops that would only give proponents of gay marriage in their country more ammo? It's a token "exception" that doesn't actually do anything and is only there so the admin can point to it and disingenuously say they added an exception.
1 geraldo42 2018-10-02
Only consistent if it's applied to countries that have legalised gay marriage.