People talking about me

1  2018-10-14 by bartisyou

People in r/SubredditDrama are talking about me. I'm banned from r/SubredditDrama .. Lots of people on that post who have no desire to talk with me.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/9nyhi1/one_user_proposes_a_new_style_of_school_in/

I don't have the focus to go through my 17 notifications and the many other comments about me that don't appear in my notifications because they weren't replies to my comments.

I really don't want to look at the notifications.

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Promoting anarchofascism for 9 years and counting.

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They mostly called you autistic and, potentially, mentally ill. So nothing new for you, I'm guessing.

I read every comment on that subredditdrama post. I just haven't looked at my notifications. I am dissociating.

I read every comment on that subredditdrama post

I am dissociating.

Pick one buddy

Dissociate means you go through the motions as if it wasn't you.

Ok, I see what you are saying.

Dissociation -

Disconnection and lack of continuity between thoughts, memories, surroundings, actions, and identity.

Wait wait wait. Are you telling me that you're not totally connected to reality? What a revelation lol.

Inb4 I'm a coward/liar/arguing in bad faith/etc

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I’m a bit late but just seeing all this and this is by far the best post in all threads for that last sentence. Lmao

If you’re not trolling you should really look into getting a psychiatrist and maybe laying off of reddit.

I will go to a psychiatrist willingly when you stop being a coward. Might be a while.

THIS RIGHT HERE IS WHY WE NEED FEMINISM

Feminism only applies to a certain class of people. Not me.

And what class would that be?

Bad faith. I will talk with you when you want to talk in good faith.

I/bartisyou

I am ready to talk in good faith. My view on reality has shifted in accordance with your reality.

What is your definition of bad faith? I’m genuinely curious.

Putting aside your culture so that you can discuss things objectively. Being objective means taking into account every living being that exists until this moment. If you bring your culture into the discussion, you are prejudiced in favour of that culture. That is bad faith.

I see. And how does u /Matt_Messih’s comment reveal that he is not putting aside his culture or speaking objectively?

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How did get all that from "And what class would that be?"

Because I'm not an idiot like you

Who is you?

There’s no point in asking questions. He just asks like a crazy girlfriend and says “I’ll talk to you after you’ve calmed down” after she’s been badgering you for hours on end.

You want there to be no point, so there is no point

Like I said, crazy ex.

You live in a small culture. You believe it's acceptable to go out on the streets of your city, to find yourself a romantic partner. Jesus fuck, you have zero clue about anything I say. When you're ready to actually find out the meaning of what I say, I'm right here

You got it, schizophrenic ex girlfriend

Why do you believe your interpretation of possible lives is the whole picture? Why do you refuse to believe there have been 30 million+ people in the last forty years who had zero desire for relationships because they were too busy trying not to get fucked over the the people who were alleged to care for them?

CUCKOO! CUCKOO!

Stop being an incel friggit.

If you’re not trolling you should really go see a psychiatrist and maybe lay off of Reddit for a while

I will go to a psychiatrist willingly when you stop being a coward. Might be a while..

You should definitely go see a psychiatrist

I will when you stop being a coward. That's how it is.

No you first

See? You ignore that u/Re-Binge is attacking me in real time. Your deliberate ignoring of my experience objectively makes you a coward.

"no u"

Woah there KID don’t you know who I am?

A coward. Obviously. Duh.

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What sort of ground do you have to call anyone a coward? You're evidently a sub par student who doesn't get enough attention, and blames their low marks on the education system, rather than their own incompetence

See? More cowardice. When you're ready to stop lying, I'll be right here waiting to get down to business.

Can you give any example of cowardice or dishonesty? You seem to think that unless someone is willing to bow down, and fully accept your opinion that they are a lying coward

If anyone so much as checks your profile, you seem like an angry, edgy, teenage failure, Issac.

I seem like what you want me to seem. Stop lying.

Ok, big guy

genuine question: are you a high scoring student, not good or bad because i know effort doesn’t always equate to grades

I doubt whether you've ever been genuine. When you're ready to be actually genuine, I'm right here ready to talk with you.

how does one go about being genuine?

That question is objectively bad faith. No one taught me how to act like I act. Asking me for answers is bad faith because if you're too stupid to come up with an answer without my help, then you don't deserve a seat at the table to talk about the issues I talk about.

all you do on reddit is questions. that would make you the most stupid here! :) checks out

And what is the reason I ask all these obtuse people questions?

bruh you an obtuse ass mf lmao

No. You're forcing me to bow down to your standards or else you will think badly of me. You can't even see I have zero power here even on my own post when I deal with a coward like yourself. Do not diminish your own importance. I will not let you bully me.

You have no power, because you're completely unhinged. You refuse to understand that any negative aspects of your life are your fault

I am not unhinged. You're a liar. You will fuck me over because you believe I deserve it. Stop lying.

Ok, daddy-o. You're the boss

You need to stop lying. You are such a coward. A lying coward. A cowardly liar.

Right

what’s he lying about you mong

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I’m gunna need less edge on that Issac

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Sorry, Issac Baker*

What the fuck are you talking about? You're clearly a very tilted person, or you're some little kid who wants to get a rise out of people on the internet because you're too much of a coward to do so yourself

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Do you think anyone will care when you die? Everyone thinks you are either insane or the most dedicated troll of all time.

Also your ideas are absolutely bonkers.

And guess what has existed for every child under the age of sixteen in all countries for the last fifty years?

Your idea is bad and your thinker is broken.

Another coward. All you have to do is not be a coward. It's that simple u/shaneoffline

Ok. I'm no longer a coward.

Explain why it's possible for a human's thinker to be off

They usually are off.

Everyone's are off?

Usually.

In what ways are they off?

Don't worry about it. How come you think 150 people should rear 100 kids?

Couldn't 100 of them do something better?

I know that no human has every had a bad brain. You come here lying to my face saying it's possible for a human to have a messed up mind. We will not move on until you tell me in what ways are peoples' minds off.

Your mind is off. You can't see it because it's your mind.

And there it is. You hide behind self evidency. You literally cannot open your mind to even the slightest possibility you're wrong about certain things.

I'm wrong about most things. You are too.

I don't care if I'm right. I care about other humans lying and trying to get away with it. If I'm wrong about them lying, no harm done. There is literally zero downside to pushing the limits of what people call civility. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. If I'm right, then I have done my part to reveal the truth. I will not let other people bully me unless I'm under duress and it's not wise to open hostilities.

You are wrong tho.

The downside in continuing is what's happening right here.

We are in agreement. You seem to think that this right now is a downside. This is the upside. I get to see how many people dehumanise and delegitimise me. I get to see who is a liar, who is a coward. I get to see people for who they truly are. I am not writing comments to myself. Other people are punishing me for my transgressions. This proves that any good behaviour is done not because you or someone else has innate goodness, but that it is learned behaviour and people only act good because they don't want to be in my situation. Good behaviour is revealed to be caused by fear. Fear of losing the support of other humans. I don't have that fear. You do.

I see you as you.

And I think you should seek out a psychiatrist.

You don't see me as me. Another lie.

Ok, so who sees you?

See? Bad faith.

Don't run from what's true. You need to find a psychiatrist.

Bad faith

What's your favorite color?

I love green but I've always been partial to blue.

I don't have a favourite colour because I don't have a fetish like you do. I live in the real world; I don't act like you and believe my experiences can be generalised as normal.

I live in the real world too. It's fucking madness out here.

No it is not madness. It is carefully cultivated to portray a specific constricted way of life.

You don't think the wild is wild?

Ever seen a fly fly?

There are lots of flies.

There are.

Ever seen a human human?

No

No there aren't, please stop lying in bad faith.

Oh mr.there-should-be-conflict-everywhere evades conflict once again by simply saying everyone just comes at him with bad faith and lies. Typical.

See? You have no understanding of the concepts I talk about. Either you ask me clarifying questions or you keep being delusional thinking you know what I say.

Yeah sure and when people ask you you never explain responding with "herp derp bad faith" or "lies" and the times you do explain you never go into detail only writing general statements and showing the lack of real critical thought you've put into "your" theory.

Let me try again.

You haven't secret knowledge. You have a brain gone a bit mad.

Bad faith.

Peoples brains are off in various ways, for example you are obsessed with seeming smarter than everyone else around you as a way of hiding how unbearably sad you are. But that's just one example.

More lies. When you stop lying, I'm here ready to do business with you.

You have to be a troll. No way anyone is this thick?

Oh look, a coward popped in to say hello.

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I genuinely feel sorry for you after reading your Twitter. One day you're going to get the help that you're so adamant does not exist and it will make you much happier. Take care until then mate.

And again. Lies. You either believe in objective concepts that exist for every human, or you settle down in the culture you enjoy so much and parrot that culture as objective truth.

You're struggling so hard to find something true to pin the rest of your beliefs on, we all do that as teenagers, I get that. Your comment is nothing, literal blank space. You're using words you don't understand, to describe concepts you don't understand and acting like that means anything.

Hiding behind objectivity and acting like it's truth is immature. Finding some peace in your place in this world requires more than acting smart.

Blah blah. More lies. Come back when you speak the objective truth

The objective truth is that you are infinitely less special than your message notification makes you feel.

Objectivity takes into account every living being that exists until this moment. The game is fair when there is objectivity. The objective truth is that you ignore everyone else attacking me and you deliberately become one person in the horde. That is the objective truth.

Real talk, I don't think you understand objectivity. Something isn't objective because it benefits your point of view, and it's therefore correct.

Again, we've all been your age once, I promise this angst passes eventually.

See? More lies.

They're not lies, they're inconvient to you, it's different.

And again, you lie.

And that is a lie

You're an absolute dildo, pal.

I laughed at that

I laughed again

Off

My god that worked

Nothing worked

🦕🦖

Heyyy

I like you did. You are and don't care about nothing. I'll be part of your Low Gang. Feel free to message me any time you need to flex.

I am afraid of other people.

This is magnificent. A lolcow has told r/drama about his own drama and then started more drama in the drama thread.

Like, you do realize this is the place where we gawk at people like you and laugh behind our keyboards... right? Like, this is the funniest thing I've seen today, and you have some stiff competition.

Who the fuck is 'we'?

"We" is everyone reading your unhinged mess.

Finally. I CAN do whatever the fuck i want. Anyone can. Its personal agency, everyone has it including you. If questioning what is clearly your oppinion is 'bad faith' your not fit to be teacher. If you expect to pitch ideas like that one, and not be questioned then i would question your capasity for mental elasticity. You imply that coming in to collaborate would be discussing implementing your ideas. The first stage of which would be to question the hell out of them.

Lies. Every single thing you said is a lie. When you want to speak the truth, I'll be right here waiting to get to business.

I'll have whatever you're having

It's called mental illness with a hint of r/iam14andthisisdeep. Wouldn't recommend it since the side effects are thinking up borderline insane concepts with no hold in the real world and thinking everyone is part of a big conspiracy against kids being taught "the obviously correct way" and anyone that wants to know the details of said "correct way" is a liar and is trying their best to "delegitimise" you

I'll have whatever his mom had while pregnant with him!

Mental illness is a fake concept. I have never met a single human who was mentally healthy or mentally unsound. You enlarge your small corner of the world and say 'Look, this is the entirety of the world'. I live in the real world where I take into account every living being until this moment. When you're ready to stop lying, I'll be right here

You don't take every human being into account. Your presence here and the way you interact with people on reddit has made this painfully clear. You only think you take everybody into account but the fact is you simply disregard anybody with a view that differs from yours. Because that's all this is. Your view. There is no objective truth in the world since for anything in the world to have meaning you'd have to describe that one thing with language. Every language and culture understands things and concepts differently so unless you have studied each language and culture on the planet you're nothing but delusional, naive, idealistic idiot that failed to develop any sense of self-reflective thinking and continues to project his own problems onto the world with unrealistic and vague rambling. There. Go ahead. Call me a liar and walk away trying to protect your fragile worldview.

Yes people are talking about you. You are not paranoid. They are saying you are a twisted weirdo.

Yes lots of people have no desire to talk with you. Why would they want to? You are not particularly funny or interesting. A mixture of edgy and crazy.

jfc get off the internet before you have a psychotic break. Get a waifu pillow or something.

See? More lies. When you're ready to stop lying, I'm right here waiting.

Mate, accept the reality, get out of that comfort zone you’re in right now

See? Reality isn't something you accept or deny.

Because you can’t deny it

Denial and acceptance have zero relation to reality. I cannot be more clear. Explain why you believe acceptance and denial are connected to reality.

Reality is there, you can’t change it, you can’t make up reasons to deny it, it’s just there

Woah, steady there. We are not talking about the concept of change. That's a whole new fucking ballgame. If you want to talk about the connection between change and reality, I'm all for it. But that's a whole separate concept.

lmao, saying hard facts are lying, if that’s not denial I don’t what that is, keep on going I’m starting have fun now

The concept of change is extremely different from denial/acceptance. Why do you believe it's similar?

Hm in my opinion when you deny something you’re trying to change the hard fact of that thing, idk what’s your opinion though

No. If you deny there are five apples, that has already become reality. If you accept there are five apples, that has already become reality. If you try to change there being five apples, you're engaging in conflict with whoever else cares about the apples. You're conflicting with their realities by creating change. Denying the apples or accepting the apples is an individual endeavor, separate from what others think, and is therefore disconnected from reality.

Ah so your type of change aint my type of change

And yet you decided to open your big fucking mouth and enter a conversation you now know you didn't understand from the start. You proud of yourself?

What I understand is that, someone spoke out the truth, and you like “nah dawg that aint fact bro it’s not true”

You just made my trip to the groceries store less boring, thanks :)

Did you watch goblin slayer episode 1

I don't know what that is. I am not going to google it.

yo did u watch goblin slayer

Don’t engage this dude. I made that mistake and now he sends me dick pics and explicit messages about my kids.

Hey man, are you okay?

I am fending off attacks from people who diminish their importance. Where the fuck have you been? Take your pity to someone who actually wants it.

You are great. Please keep doing what you’re doing. I love it

Right

Yeah I don’t know why people are attacking you, they must just be bored. I’m very much so a fan of free thought and expressing those thoughts in safe manners so I commented to start a conversation, not to give pity. Would you agree or disagree with my opinion on free thought and why? I saw your post regarding conflict, it’s radical, sure, but it’s not an opinion I’d seen before, so I became intrigued.

Okay, no pity. I believe opinions are a fake concept. I believe there is objective truth, where every living being is taken into account. If a person experiences something and tries to gain support from others who experience similar things, I believe none of them are acting objectively. I believe change can only occur when there is unreasonable violence, hostility and conflict. The enforcement of a safe environment is suppressing the truth.

This has me thinking, I don’t think opinions are necessarily a fake concept, however I think it’s interesting to think about how my opinion is an objective truth to me and yours to you. I agree with you that the group would not be acting objectively, simply because of infinite perspectives and none being the same. However, I would argue that being objective isn’t the main goal of nearly any argument (barring discourse with facts, not opinions). Your last point is one that I actually disagree with and think that your view is objectively wrong. To base it in biology, symbiotic relationships came as a byproduct of evolution. Now that I’m typing this, I understand that I am wrong and that those symbiotic relationships happened solely because of harsh environment. Disregard the hive mind, you have me intrigued. However, in order to continue, I think you should specify what you mean by ‘change.’ I can change my shirt without violence. We can change some (not all) laws without violence. We can change the temperature.

I’m sorry but what the fuck My brain hurts

It’s radical ideology and hopefully his ideas stay as concepts, though it’s still interesting to talk about!

I don't have an ideology. You're a fucking liar. This is my fucking life, and you say it's interesting? Fuck off, delete your reddit, never show your fucking face before me.

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Get smarter. Then your brain wouldn't hurt.

Haha shut up.

Ok, I’d like to respond to your points in good faith, because I’m not a coward. I’m interested in your response.

  • Of course there can be such a thing as objective truth, that is a philosophically sound position. But you can also have an opinion on what that truth is, no? If we don’t know what the truth is then people can disagree on it until it’s substantially proven.

  • Sure - “conflict” of ideas in school is really important and something which should be improved. Debate and critical thinking forces people to empathise, think for themselves and challenge their own assumptions. Kids aren’t taught this enough because education is a results game and schools want kids to pass exams more than they want them to become well rounded people who can think for themselves.

  • BUT we also need to live in a civilised society where people aren’t constantly afraid of “unreasonable violence”. People want security for themselves and their families, you can’t change that. We need rules or everything falls apart.

  • Your 5:3 ratio is a nice idea but it sounds practically implausible. It would involve forcing and coercing people into giving up their other jobs to be teachers and our society would completely shut down. How would you get all the staff?

You're not talking in good faith because I have already defined my terms and you're lying about my terms. When you're ready to talk about the concepts I bring up using the terms the way I personally define them, then we can have a nice chat.

I am talking in good faith in as much as I am seeking an open, fair and unbiased discussion. I am not lying, we are perhaps just not yet aligned in what is being discussed.

I have already defined my terms and you're lying about my terms

I’m sorry, but that is simply not clear. Which terms have you defined and where? If you can clarify this I will be able to better understand your point of view.

I am happy to discuss this further, sure. Thanks

It is very clear to any human who actually uses their brain. I have already defined my terms.

I have already defined my terms.

Not in a way which is visible to me. Where have you defined your terms?

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Still waiting on this... are you going to link me to the post or comment where you “defined your terms”?

How the fuck are you waiting when I was bombarded by 400+ people all lying about me because they believe I deserve it? You don't fucking wait for me; I wait for you.

Dude in the space of this comment chain you’ve not responded to anything I’ve said. You have just insulted me, talked nonsense and refused to engage me on anything. I don’t think I’m better than you, why do you presume to be better than me & everyone else.

I’m just trying to understand and discuss your point of view (which, incidentally, you keep whinging at people for not doing enough). You’ve avoided actually discussing anything, despite constantly professing how much you wish to do so.

There isn’t “400 people lying about you because they believe you deserve it”, there’s a handful of people who are retaliating to the fact that you are being a prick towards them, insulting them, tagging them in your nonsensical rants. The rest is your own paranoid delusion. You should get off reddit and get some help.

You’re dangerous

The only people who believe I am dangerous are those benefiting from the current world.

Oh you’re an anarchist. Got it. Threads over guys! This guy is a moron! Nothing to see here! #ObjectiveTruths #RiotsInTheStreet # DeathToTheSystem #MyBloodyValentine

No I'm not an anarchist. I don't give a shit about government. Step up your level. Chester bennington tied a rope around his neck and made gargling noises for three minutes while you were out doing fuck all. That's the level I play at, where Beau bokan has a high voice and I need to raise my voice.

You sound like my schizophrenic friend.

And what do you think you sound like to me?

oh i don't care.

Dawg.

How are we going to afford paying 5 adults per 3 kids for 8 hours every day?

Who the fuck is 'we'?

People who pay teachers.

u/kosmic_kolossos Why the fuck would you ever pay teachers?

Taxpayers. The government. Take your pick.

You keep saying that people need conflict but when people question it you argue back. Those are the facts. You also didn’t provide any evidence to things you claimed in regards to this when others have disagreed. You have also said that they are liars for not agreeing and are acting in bad faith when this happens.

You are the drama because you created it.

Lies. When you're ready to speak the truth, I'll be right here

You need to get help. Seriously. And please please please before this gets out of hand take your real name off your reddit

More cowardice. Linking up with other humans for your own benefit is cowardice. Not wanting other humans to turn on you is cowardice.

You are literaly the product of millions of years of cowarduce through evolution

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No shit noone wants to talk to you. You blame everyone for problems and call them cowards, despite trying to speak to you, even calmly. You're a clown

More cowardice. Tell me one moment in your life you haven't acted a coward in front of others?

end it all faggot

Lol banned.

Can we make this guy a mod already?

He fucking just ...gets it.

I don't want to be a mod

It’s not up to you sunshine...

Reminder not to downvote the lolcow.

You are cementing the truth that mods are always late to the party u/pisserpatterwater

This guy is a seven-layer cake of fucking weird. He thinks an education system should involve unqualified adults having shouting matches in front of someone else's kids, and believes that anyone who doesn't give his timecube-like lunacy blind adulation is poisoned by their culture. Like, this could be my weirdest reddit find of the day, and it's only 930am.

I don't believe I'm weird, but then again I have never come across someone who was weird in my entire fucking life

You must live a very sheltered life.

Sorry, you must talk to us in good faith.

Why are you banned from r/SubredditDrama?

Because I was too hostile

You have a very unpopular opinion and when you are hostile to people, they will be hostile to you. Why are you mad?

Why are you so hostile?

Why look for conflict when there is none?

Why would anyone engage you in conversation if you are just going to be hostile rather than probing?

Why expect them to be nice to you when you are not nice to them?

Bad faith. Come back when you're ready to talk in good faith

Dude. You asked for it. YOU made the post. YOU proposed that stupid school idea. YOU decided to respond to everybody and now you want to play the victim card? Nobody feels sorry for a martyr little boy.

If I had asked for it, I would've asked for it. Good try lying. Why do you lie again and see if it'll stick this time.

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