And what's Spicer going to say, "Oh yeah, it's all legit!" First of all, he's not even one of the 10, and you can tell Trump wouldn't let him in on it. And second of all, if he did say that, it would just make tons of people bombard him with more questions about it, which he really knows nothing about. This is top level Military Intel at the highest level of Classified Clearance.
So you shouldn't view killing millions of people as morally justified, whether or not you think the things they do are immoral. That's not how we do things in sane land.
You still shouldn't be eager to press the nuke button on a bunch of baby killers. If you're as willing to kill as internet commies are you shouldn't have the power to.
It's only logically sound if you think that it's morally a-okay to kill people who are immoral by your definition of immoral.
Yes that is literally what i was saying...
And if you think that you are literally a psycho and you would die in your ideal version of the world because someone else would view you as immoral. It's dumb.
And this is completely irrelevant to the original comment that started this discussion.
And this is completely irrelevant to the original comment that started this discussion.
His implied point is that their morals are obviously flimsy if they want to kill people who they view as morally wrong. A slow 2 year old could have figured that out 😂
His implied point is that their morals are obviously flimsy if they want to kill people who they view as morally wrong. A slow 2 year old could have figured that out 😂
Im aware. He also implied there was a logical contradiction, which there isnt.
Literally every genocidal maniac has seen themselves as morally justified because the people they're killing are morally wrong, either because of their existence or because of how they view the genocided group's actions. Why do you think genocidal commies are any different than the rest?
I don't. You sure you're replying to the right person? My view is that there is no contradiction in their beliefs.
There was no contradiction in Hitler's beliefs, because he believed Jews to be less than human. His views were still retarded, because it's wrong and inaccurate to classify a group of people as subhuman. There doesn't need to be a contradiction for the views to be retarded. The original comment didn't imply there was a contradiction, it pointed out their obvious lack of moral reasoning. You responded "what's the contradiction," as if there needs to be one for the view to not be retarded.
Completely dissimilar. Do you view someone getting knocked out in a agreed-upon fight between two people as the same thing as someone getting sucker punched? Hint: one makes the person who did the knocking-out less of a cunt.
Yes, obviously, so why the fuck do you equate war with some agreed upon fight between two parties. When german Battleships entered Norwegian oceans, they came with no decleration of anything at all.
And it's not like you're losing "punishing power" without it. I'd rather Hitler have been locked up for the rest of his life than be dead. Only one is a punishment you have to actually experience.
The argument isn't sufficiently developed to be considered logically sound. The truth value of the premises "rich people are immoral" and "immoral people should be killed" aren't demonstrated at all (and haven't been imo). But I would agree that it is valid.
So what?
Their logic holds, if you agree with them.
If the wealthy are evil parasites responsible for poverty, exploitation, colonialism, imperialism, create laws to protect and benefit themselves, then killing them seems like the logical conclusion.
If peaceful protest and writing articles/essays does nothing, political violence does get shit done.
Notice when Black Americans started to arm themselves, the right wing suddenly loved the idea of gun control.
Having Jeff Bezos, politicians and other billionaires frightened might terrify them into improving standard of living for the majority of people.
Amazon raising it's wage to $15 for most employees (drivers apparently aren't "employees"), was mostly due to massive pressure by unions and Bernie pushing the "Stop Bezos Act".
So what? Their logic holds, if you agree with them.
Any retard's logic holds if you agree with everything they say.
If the wealthy are evil parasites responsible for poverty, exploitation, colonialism, imperialism, create laws to protect and benefit themselves, then killing them seems like the logical conclusion
No it doesn't.
Class war is worse than all of those combined. War is shit. And there'll just be new wealthy people.
Notice when Black Americans started to arm themselves,
The civil war?
Jeff Bezos, politicians and other billionaires frightened might terrify them into
doing what I want them to do
doing what they are able to do to maintain their safety and wealth
One of those makes sense, one of them makes you retarded
The fact that rich people and corporations can enact capital flight doesn't justify their actions. Unless you think corporations polluting the environment, lobbying for wars and sabotaging public healthcare and regulations is "good".
The message of Bezos raising wages for (most) of his employees, is "You don't need a union". It's not just a corporate power play against his competitors.
So what? Their logic holds, if you agree with them. If the wealthy are evil parasites responsible for poverty, exploitation, colonialism, imperialism, create laws to protect and benefit themselves, then killing them seems like the logical conclusion. If peaceful protest and writing articles/essays does nothing, political violence does get shit done.
Centrists are in no position to talk about economics.
You lack even the minimal amount of self awareness for most humans, resorting to the "lel economics 101" meme.
Wealthy people will always do anything to further their interests.
The fact you think the wealthy and powerful aren't responsible for wars, poverty, weakening labour laws, environmental laws tells me you are at MDE levels of stupidity.
If your proposal is neoliberalism, it's shit, and you deserve to be laughed at.
I always get a kick out of the idea that Bezos has a Wells Fargo account with 100 billion in it and not just that the founder of one of the biggest companies on earth holds stock in his own company.
Gotta love all this praise for the USSR. Back when i watched them turn down the Berlin Wall, the East Germans were quickly putting it back together so they can keep their healthcare and literacy.
I just think it's funny that we are supposed to be worried about a few inbred nazis running around in the US, when literal communists are allowed to spout their bullshit all over the 0lace without anyone raising much of a peep.
Thank God the "communists" are really just a bunch of soyboys larping, and not people actually capable of doing anything.
I only use ps.reddit cause it doesn't support reddit.com/chat and has the old profiles by default (though I do have the new profiles turned off by default on my account tho).
Every single time they say they want to kill rich people there is some user who asks them if they are joking. And every single time this user will try to tell them killing people for having a lot of money is immoral.
Serious Post:Weren't the most successful development stories like fash-lite capitalistic dictatorships? like S. Korea under this guy, Chile under this guy, Taiwan under these Fash, even in other region's of the world like Spain under this guy and Portugal under this guy. Hell even in Iran this guy
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-10-14
And what's Spicer going to say, "Oh yeah, it's all legit!" First of all, he's not even one of the 10, and you can tell Trump wouldn't let him in on it. And second of all, if he did say that, it would just make tons of people bombard him with more questions about it, which he really knows nothing about. This is top level Military Intel at the highest level of Classified Clearance.
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1 Think_Once 2018-10-14
True fact: Everyone on Venezuela is a millionaire.
1 sevgee 2018-10-14
Not only that, by next week they'll all be billionaires!
1 vjaY619 2018-10-14
Nothing wrong with this.
1 A7thStone 2018-10-14
Wait... Money has no value?
1 fingerpaintswithpoop 2018-10-14
Especially WoW players.
1 Dildokin 2018-10-14
fucking tankies
1 Manannin 2018-10-14
Time to break out the anti-tankie guns again!
1 2DDefenseForce 2018-10-14
Right?
1 A7thStone 2018-10-14
Eat.The.Rich
1 DistortedLines 2018-10-14
Why is there even a debate? If course it is.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-10-14
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/9nagab/rtruereddit_unironically_advocates_for_killing/e7l9dqr/
1 DistortedLines 2018-10-14
😡
1 error404brain 2018-10-14
Rich people are innately superior, tho.
1 DeityOfUnderworld26 2018-10-14
Only a bootlicker would say that.
1 error404brain 2018-10-14
I am not a race traitor, poor scum.
1 ConfuseTheJews 2018-10-14
They have money? You want money. Why not take money?
Now you are the millionaire with the money
1 DistortedLines 2018-10-14
Wait doyou actually think the goal of communism is to take other peoples money? Lol.
1 ConfuseTheJews 2018-10-14
No, goal of communism is to obviously be a failure. Very successful this way
Goal of killing millionaires is to get millionaire money, take nice millionaire things from the houses they own
1 DistortedLines 2018-10-14
Ok whatevs
1 KristenLuvsCATS 2018-10-14
That was hard to read.
1 Voltairium 2018-10-14
WE NEED A REVOLUTION TO MURDER ALL (((MILLIONAIRES))). DEATH TO THE JEWISH BOURGEOISIE!!!!!
[MADE BY STRASSER GANG]
1 Voltairium 2018-10-14
WE NEED A REVOLUTION TO MURDER ALL (((MILLIONAIRES))). DEATH TO THE (((BOURGEOISIE)))!!!!!
[MADE BY STRASSER GANG]
1 jaja10 2018-10-14
nazbol gang rising up, both want to kill the (((wealthy white men))) in power
1 Voltairium 2018-10-14
o7
1 reptilia987 2018-10-14
Tankies: “wealth inequality is unethical”
Also tankies: “there is nothing wrong with killing the rich”
🤔🤔🤔
1 DistortedLines 2018-10-14
Where's the contradiction?
1 Mikeavelli 2018-10-14
But why male models?
1 Thisisepicstein 2018-10-14
T. Poor person
1 JurijFedorov 2018-10-14
That just having a lot of paper lying around is immoral but killing people who have this paper is fine.
1 DistortedLines 2018-10-14
Not a contradiction if you view the latter group as immoral...
1 WhaleTaleMan 2018-10-14
You can view someone as immoral without wanting to kill them, psychopath.
1 DistortedLines 2018-10-14
So?
1 WhaleTaleMan 2018-10-14
So you shouldn't view killing millions of people as morally justified, whether or not you think the things they do are immoral. That's not how we do things in sane land.
1 DistortedLines 2018-10-14
According to you, not them. You wouldve figured this out if you read the original comment instead of being a giant moralfag.
1 WhaleTaleMan 2018-10-14
You still shouldn't be eager to press the nuke button on a bunch of baby killers. If you're as willing to kill as internet commies are you shouldn't have the power to.
1 DistortedLines 2018-10-14
Moralfag me harder daddy
1 WhaleTaleMan 2018-10-14
According to every common belief of modern society, it's morally wrong to not bend over and let me wreck that bussyhole to gapeville and back.
1 DistortedLines 2018-10-14
Keep going im almost there
1 A7thStone 2018-10-14
Killing only comes when they refuse to renounce their immorality.
1 WhaleTaleMan 2018-10-14
I view you as immoral for visiting /r/Drama. Do you renounce your allegiance, dramanaut? Do it or I kill you.
1 A7thStone 2018-10-14
Well done, saved.
1 HueyCrashTestPilot 2018-10-14
Every murderous regime in the history of humanity has used that exact line of thinking to justify their actions.
Glad to see you are on the right track.
1 DistortedLines 2018-10-14
I didnt endorse it you retard, im saying its logically sound
1 WhaleTaleMan 2018-10-14
It's not. It's only logically sound if you think killing people who are immoral by your definition is moral.
1 DistortedLines 2018-10-14
Yes that is literally what i was saying...
And this is completely irrelevant to the original comment that started this discussion.
1 WhaleTaleMan 2018-10-14
His implied point is that their morals are obviously flimsy if they want to kill people who they view as morally wrong. A slow 2 year old could have figured that out 😂
1 DistortedLines 2018-10-14
Im aware. He also implied there was a logical contradiction, which there isnt.
I don't. You sure you're replying to the right person? My view is that there is no contradiction in their beliefs.
1 WhaleTaleMan 2018-10-14
There was no contradiction in Hitler's beliefs, because he believed Jews to be less than human. His views were still retarded, because it's wrong and inaccurate to classify a group of people as subhuman. There doesn't need to be a contradiction for the views to be retarded. The original comment didn't imply there was a contradiction, it pointed out their obvious lack of moral reasoning. You responded "what's the contradiction," as if there needs to be one for the view to not be retarded.
1 DistortedLines 2018-10-14
Ok sweaty
1 WhaleTaleMan 2018-10-14
I'm glad we finally settled this whole communism thing. Now everyone can stop arguing
1 shallowm 2018-10-14
You were put down, in the future please refrain from discussing subjects you have no education in.
1 WhaleTaleMan 2018-10-14
The only thing put down here is my feelings from you insulting me, faggot.
1 TheRobidog 2018-10-14
OUT OUT OUT
1 WhaleTaleMan 2018-10-14
Where exactly do you think I'm from you low IQ outposter
1 TheRobidog 2018-10-14
Retardistan?
1 WhaleTaleMan 2018-10-14
Ok well you got me there 😓
1 HolyWarsPunishment 2018-10-14
I like how you're pretending to only care about logic here while arguing in favor of wealthicide lower down in the thread.
1 DistortedLines 2018-10-14
Different comment chain, no?
1 HolyWarsPunishment 2018-10-14
Yes, just seems like you're misrepresenting where you're coming from.
1 shallowm 2018-10-14
Do you actually like it?
1 aslak123 2018-10-14
Yea, Churchill was a brutal maniac for killing all those germans.
1 WhaleTaleMan 2018-10-14
That's war. Do you think war is the same as genocide?
1 aslak123 2018-10-14
Not entierly dissimmilar, are they?
1 WhaleTaleMan 2018-10-14
Completely dissimilar. Do you view someone getting knocked out in a agreed-upon fight between two people as the same thing as someone getting sucker punched? Hint: one makes the person who did the knocking-out less of a cunt.
1 aslak123 2018-10-14
Where the fuck did you get the notion that wars are agreed-upon, or merely consisting of two combatants?
1 WhaleTaleMan 2018-10-14
Do you know what the phrase "declaration of war" means?
Dumbass, the two people are a metaphor.
Both a codelet and a brainlet. Pathetic.
1 aslak123 2018-10-14
Yes, obviously, so why the fuck do you equate war with some agreed upon fight between two parties. When german Battleships entered Norwegian oceans, they came with no decleration of anything at all.
1 WhaleTaleMan 2018-10-14
Nice spelling 😂😂😂😂😂😂
1 aslak123 2018-10-14
If you are pointing out typos you are obviously out of arguments.
1 WhaleTaleMan 2018-10-14
LMAO
1 aslak123 2018-10-14
Ok, fuck, you actually bamboozeled me something right proper just there.
1 shallowm 2018-10-14
a
1 WhaleTaleMan 2018-10-14
Hence why the death penalty is dumb!
And it's not like you're losing "punishing power" without it. I'd rather Hitler have been locked up for the rest of his life than be dead. Only one is a punishment you have to actually experience.
1 Zizac 2018-10-14
The argument isn't sufficiently developed to be considered logically sound. The truth value of the premises "rich people are immoral" and "immoral people should be killed" aren't demonstrated at all (and haven't been imo). But I would agree that it is valid.
1 ModerateThuggery 2018-10-14
Every murderous regime in history has been run by rich people.
1 Shitposting_Skeleton 2018-10-14
I think it's fine, but then again I'm not a commie, just an amoral psychopath.
1 DeityOfUnderworld26 2018-10-14
So what? Their logic holds, if you agree with them. If the wealthy are evil parasites responsible for poverty, exploitation, colonialism, imperialism, create laws to protect and benefit themselves, then killing them seems like the logical conclusion. If peaceful protest and writing articles/essays does nothing, political violence does get shit done.
Notice when Black Americans started to arm themselves, the right wing suddenly loved the idea of gun control. Having Jeff Bezos, politicians and other billionaires frightened might terrify them into improving standard of living for the majority of people.
Amazon raising it's wage to $15 for most employees (drivers apparently aren't "employees"), was mostly due to massive pressure by unions and Bernie pushing the "Stop Bezos Act".
1 nahnotreallytho 2018-10-14
Any retard's logic holds if you agree with everything they say.
No it doesn't.
Class war is worse than all of those combined. War is shit. And there'll just be new wealthy people.
The civil war?
doing what I want them to do
doing what they are able to do to maintain their safety and wealth
One of those makes sense, one of them makes you retarded
1 DeityOfUnderworld26 2018-10-14
The fact that rich people and corporations can enact capital flight doesn't justify their actions. Unless you think corporations polluting the environment, lobbying for wars and sabotaging public healthcare and regulations is "good".
No, the Black Panthers.
1 nahnotreallytho 2018-10-14
No, but it does make the idea that you can threaten their safety to achieve your goals pretty fucking retarded
So way, way, way after black people took up arms
1 Heydammit 2018-10-14
If you think Bezos raising wages was anything but a corporate powerplay to price his competitors out of the market you are a beta wave brainlet.
1 DeityOfUnderworld26 2018-10-14
The message of Bezos raising wages for (most) of his employees, is "You don't need a union". It's not just a corporate power play against his competitors.
1 HolyWarsPunishment 2018-10-14
That's a pretty gigantic 'if'.
1 DeityOfUnderworld26 2018-10-14
Centrists are in no position to talk about economics. You lack even the minimal amount of self awareness for most humans, resorting to the "lel economics 101" meme. Wealthy people will always do anything to further their interests. The fact you think the wealthy and powerful aren't responsible for wars, poverty, weakening labour laws, environmental laws tells me you are at MDE levels of stupidity.
If your proposal is neoliberalism, it's shit, and you deserve to be laughed at.
1 HolyWarsPunishment 2018-10-14
Well gosh you've obviously got me figured out so well I guess there's nothing more I need to say.
1 SonyXboxNintendo11 2018-10-14
Unironical commie-nazies.
1 demoloition 2018-10-14
my favorite arguments are neolibs vs tankies
1 DeityOfUnderworld26 2018-10-14
Neoliberals are (barely) more coherent lolbertarians that can read a graph.
1 Cholestorol-kun 2018-10-14
this
1 moddestmouse 2018-10-14
I always get a kick out of the idea that Bezos has a Wells Fargo account with 100 billion in it and not just that the founder of one of the biggest companies on earth holds stock in his own company.
1 xthek 2018-10-14
socialists who say this believe that they are the only ones who know anything about the economy
1 PDaviss 2018-10-14
Umm i thought he kept it all in gold coins in his house
1 MarvelousMagikarp 2018-10-14
Pretty sure he keeps it stored in old timey pirate treasure chests buried across the continental United states
1 geraldodelrivero 2018-10-14
I think he has a giant vault like Scrooge McDuck
1 garythegoatsghost 2018-10-14
Retarded
1 shinbreaker 2018-10-14
Gotta love all this praise for the USSR. Back when i watched them turn down the Berlin Wall, the East Germans were quickly putting it back together so they can keep their healthcare and literacy.
1 jruss71 2018-10-14
These guys are the BANE of every history photo sub.
1 moondoggy101 2018-10-14
Commies really are immune to many of the rules on this site
1 shinbreaker 2018-10-14
In Communist Reddit, shit poster bans you.
1 nybbas 2018-10-14
I just think it's funny that we are supposed to be worried about a few inbred nazis running around in the US, when literal communists are allowed to spout their bullshit all over the 0lace without anyone raising much of a peep.
Thank God the "communists" are really just a bunch of soyboys larping, and not people actually capable of doing anything.
1 HolyWarsPunishment 2018-10-14
1 in 5 humanities professors are outright Marxists.
And unlike with nazis, their moderates never denounce them.
1 jasos-2005 2018-10-14
Luckily humanities professors aren’t people
1 jaja10 2018-10-14
Come on sweaty, killing millions of Ukrainians is one thing, but killing millions of God's chosen? Now that's too far!
1 cruelandusual 2018-10-14
Don't worry, we're not kidding about the helicopter rides, either.
1 Yiin 2018-10-14
This is an american subreddit
1 VozyCozyX 2018-10-14
I only use ps.reddit cause it doesn't support reddit.com/chat and has the old profiles by default (though I do have the new profiles turned off by default on my account tho).
1 Yiin 2018-10-14
oh cool
1 JurijFedorov 2018-10-14
Every single time they say they want to kill rich people there is some user who asks them if they are joking. And every single time this user will try to tell them killing people for having a lot of money is immoral.
1 torgenschmatz 2018-10-14
It is acceptable to murder millionaires and homeless people and that’s it.
1 corporatedemocrat 2018-10-14
kill the commies
1 srock2012 2018-10-14
Killing (a person), ok it's unethical. Now is it a necessary evil? Two different questions the first of which shouldn't ever have to be asked.
1 demotecontrol 2018-10-14
Killing a millionaire is a necessary evil to get my Xbox.
1 srock2012 2018-10-14
Well fuck...now there's a real moral quandary.
1 demotecontrol 2018-10-14
Seems pretty clear to me. 🤷♂️
1 chumthescrubber 2018-10-14
Commies hate wealth, that's why they love communism
1 tricknology_120 2018-10-14
Cry about it, richers
1 HolyWarsPunishment 2018-10-14
Cry into your piles of money while internet dorks post angrily about you.
1 voicelesshoodwinker 2018-10-14
a) not really a suprise but soviet_27 and literal_t34 are tankies, which is clear by going through their postinf history a little.
b) you know, it's funny when a imbecile living out of his moms cash calls an owner of a small cafe in for example Armenia a bourgie.
1 dootwthesickness_II 2018-10-14
Time for your regular reminder that all anarchists are libertarians who’ve figured out that they’ll never get rich.
1 TheDuddee 2018-10-14
I said it once and I will say it again, tankies are worse than Jews.
1 throwawayact69 2018-10-14
Serious Post:Weren't the most successful development stories like fash-lite capitalistic dictatorships? like S. Korea under this guy, Chile under this guy, Taiwan under these Fash, even in other region's of the world like Spain under this guy and Portugal under this guy. Hell even in Iran this guy
1 ShinPanzerHexe 2018-10-14
The fastest growing economy in history was Meiji Japan, so basically fash-lite = economic growth.
1 NAGOLACOLA 2018-10-14
Why stop at millionaires? Let’s kill the billionaires too.
1 heavenlytoaster 2018-10-14
CMV: if you have a job murdering Communists is just self defense