To OP: NEVER, EVER THREATEN /r/DRAMA AGAIN OR YOU WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE. WE ARE NO LONGER A COUNTRY THAT WILL STAND FOR YOUR DEMENTED WORDS OF VIOLENCE & DEATH. BE CAUTIOUS!
Unless its two-tone or bright green like a squirt gun, pointing it at anyone is fucking stupid. If its a airsoft gun then it can take an eye out and if its an airgun then it can kill.
What should the cop do? Wait to get shot? I don't know what this area is like, but if it's an area with high gang activity it's not unheard of for kids as young as 10 to be given a pistol and told to shoot someone to get into a gang.
Shit, I grew up in one of the most privileged suburbs in the entire country and even my parents told me when we were out playing with our airsoft guns that if we were never to point them at random people and were to drop them as soon as we saw police.
They can, but if they're pointing it and concealing it like a real gun then the cop has no idea if its real or not. Get a BB rifle and sling it on your shoulder, use real gun safety and I doubt anyone but soccer moms would bat an eye. Shoot some cans or squirrels and have fun.
And how many times have children killed police officers with guns in the streets? I haven't seen any reports of that. If there's never any reports of kids shooting officers with guns, then it should be expected that any child running around with a gun is holding a toy gun. Seriously, if 10 out of 10 cases of 'kid with gun' is a toy gun, you're probably dealing with a toy gun.
Seems like every time a cop lethally shoots a kid holding a <gun>, it's always a fake gun. So they end up killing a stupid yet innocent kid.
I'm sure the police have non-lethal methods of incapacitation that would be effective against a threat level of a stupid kid if they really have to attack with something. I mean, if you really feel like your life is in danger, diving for cover and a flashbang more than enough.
Apparently, cops do in the guy I'm replying to's world. The moment someone does something that looks like it could be dangerous, they should immediately use lethal force, apparently.
I don't think cops should do what I said either, but shit, if they really feel threatened and they already aren't in a defensive position already, they should get into one first. It's not like an actual threat would give them the courtesy to reach for, draw, remove the safety off of, aim, and then shoot their target.
You don't understand why. Guns that don't have safeties are still just as safe. I happen to own them and they can never be fired while holstered and require a firm pull off the trigger from the center of it.
Cops use guns without safeties because every moment counts when they need to draw and shoot at a threat. Why don't you think I'd understand that simple concept?
Maybe yours is properly designed, but accidents can still happen when safeties are either inadequate or not used - see breakdancing FBI agent incident.
No what I mean is, guns without safeties are still designed to never fire unless someone pulls on the trigger. Dropping it on the floor or carrying it on you won't make it fire.
I don’t see why the cops can’t just throw down a smoke grenade, grapple up to a nearby gargoyle, and swoop down and disassemble the guy’s gun. I’ve seen Batman do it a thousand times!
The issue is that some people use toy guns modified to look like real ones. For an airsoft gun, it takes like five minutes to remove the orange tip, making it indistinguishable from a real gun at a glance.
It's also not unreasonable to think that a kid may have a real gun because tons of shitty adults don't secure them enough.
How often do kids with guns have a real gun? I legit cannot remember a story where a kid (not teen) with a "gun" actually had a real gun and shot a cop with it. It's a pretty safe assumption to think that a kid with a gun is probably holding a toy gun.
Usually they kill themselves or a friend by accident. They don't go around shooting cops on the reg and they are never good shots. I think the cops should give kids the benefit of the doubt because otherwise they might kill an innocent 10 year old.
Yeah except they weren't toddlers and even paintball or BB guns can seriously injure or maim people. Don't pull weapons on people.
The water guns I played with as a kid wear all fucking neon and shit and zero threat of imitation. If people want to act retarded I am not going to suffer for it or operate on the pretense that they will probably miss. Even worse is telling people who are at risk they they should put themselves at even higher risk as a response to idiotic actions of others.
If a kid is carrying a weapon, the people to blame for any injuries are their parents, not the people that have to deal with the aftermath.
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1 Zykium 2018-10-19
It's clearly staged. What cop passes up the chance to shoot somebody?
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-10-19
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1 Alicesnakebae 2018-10-19
Wow he didn't shoot them
1 jallopsmith 2018-10-19
Try pointing a fake gun at a cop next time and see how it goes.
1 Alicesnakebae 2018-10-19
What? they'll shoot me like they'll do if look scary. If it was another burger cop he'd be on paid leave by now
1 OnePercentOfMonster 2018-10-19
Bragging about how he totally woulda headshotted those fgts and what a bad motherfucker he is lmao, cops are such retarded dipshits
1 pisserpatterwater 2018-10-19
Lmao kids aren't allowed to play with toy guns in freedomland.
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2018-10-19
Sure they are, but pulling it on a cop isn't a good idea. Neither is painting the orange safety tip so that it looks like the real thing.
1 I_starch_ocp_rank 2018-10-19
Orange safety tip bad
1 pisserpatterwater 2018-10-19
It's sad that in the USA there's a decent chance a kid will be shot by a cop if they point a toy gun at them.
1 VioletBroregarde 2018-10-19
There isn't though. That's why it makes news, like lightning strikes and shark attacks.
1 pisserpatterwater 2018-10-19
It's common enough that it's good advice not to point toy guns at police officers
1 MtheDowner 2018-10-19
It's good advice to read the safety card on a plane even though aviation accidents are rare.
1 VioletBroregarde 2018-10-19
it will obviously always be good advice everywhere not to make armed people think you're threatening them with lethal force
that doesn't mean cops are dangerous jfc
1 istural 2018-10-19
It’s good advice to not point imitation weapons at anyone who is armed.
Why are you retarded?
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-10-19
Yeah it is common fucking sense to not have things that resemble deadly weapons pointed at people that have the real thing.
1 pisserpatterwater 2018-10-19
You're right.
1 WildHotDawg 2018-10-19
Unless its two-tone or bright green like a squirt gun, pointing it at anyone is fucking stupid. If its a airsoft gun then it can take an eye out and if its an airgun then it can kill.
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2018-10-19
What should the cop do? Wait to get shot? I don't know what this area is like, but if it's an area with high gang activity it's not unheard of for kids as young as 10 to be given a pistol and told to shoot someone to get into a gang.
1 j4x 2018-10-19
Shit, I grew up in one of the most privileged suburbs in the entire country and even my parents told me when we were out playing with our airsoft guns that if we were never to point them at random people and were to drop them as soon as we saw police.
1 WildHotDawg 2018-10-19
They can, but if they're pointing it and concealing it like a real gun then the cop has no idea if its real or not. Get a BB rifle and sling it on your shoulder, use real gun safety and I doubt anyone but soccer moms would bat an eye. Shoot some cans or squirrels and have fun.
1 Corporal-Hicks 2018-10-19
So a cop is supposed to just not have any reflex at all when a person points a gun at them?
1 RestoreFear 2018-10-19
I agree he should have shot them.
1 pisserpatterwater 2018-10-19
When a kid points a toy gun at them? Yeah, they shouldn't reflexively shoot them.
1 Corporal-Hicks 2018-10-19
Id like you to tell me how a toy gun can be determined a toy in under one second.
1 RestoreFear 2018-10-19
I don't think I can type that fast.
1 LordAndSaviorHaskell 2018-10-19
Well, (legal) toy guns have an orange tip.
1 WildHotDawg 2018-10-19
Which are very easily removed.
1 TheSteakKing 2018-10-19
And how many times have children killed police officers with guns in the streets? I haven't seen any reports of that. If there's never any reports of kids shooting officers with guns, then it should be expected that any child running around with a gun is holding a toy gun. Seriously, if 10 out of 10 cases of 'kid with gun' is a toy gun, you're probably dealing with a toy gun.
Seems like every time a cop lethally shoots a kid holding a <gun>, it's always a fake gun. So they end up killing a stupid yet innocent kid.
I'm sure the police have non-lethal methods of incapacitation that would be effective against a threat level of a stupid kid if they really have to attack with something. I mean, if you really feel like your life is in danger, diving for cover and a flashbang more than enough.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-10-19
Diving for cover and a flashbang? Do you think you are playing call of duty?
1 TheSteakKing 2018-10-19
Apparently, cops do in the guy I'm replying to's world. The moment someone does something that looks like it could be dangerous, they should immediately use lethal force, apparently.
I don't think cops should do what I said either, but shit, if they really feel threatened and they already aren't in a defensive position already, they should get into one first. It's not like an actual threat would give them the courtesy to reach for, draw, remove the safety off of, aim, and then shoot their target.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-10-19
FYI, police tend to use guns that don't have safeties. Just thought you should know.
1 TheSteakKing 2018-10-19
...While I understand why, that sounds like accidents just waiting to happen.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-10-19
You don't understand why. Guns that don't have safeties are still just as safe. I happen to own them and they can never be fired while holstered and require a firm pull off the trigger from the center of it.
1 TheSteakKing 2018-10-19
Cops use guns without safeties because every moment counts when they need to draw and shoot at a threat. Why don't you think I'd understand that simple concept?
Maybe yours is properly designed, but accidents can still happen when safeties are either inadequate or not used - see breakdancing FBI agent incident.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-10-19
No what I mean is, guns without safeties are still designed to never fire unless someone pulls on the trigger. Dropping it on the floor or carrying it on you won't make it fire.
1 Corporal-Hicks 2018-10-19
Is this pasta?
1 TheSteakKing 2018-10-19
No.
1 Burnnoticelover 2018-10-19
I don’t see why the cops can’t just throw down a smoke grenade, grapple up to a nearby gargoyle, and swoop down and disassemble the guy’s gun. I’ve seen Batman do it a thousand times!
1 LordAndSaviorHaskell 2018-10-19
The issue is that some people use toy guns modified to look like real ones. For an airsoft gun, it takes like five minutes to remove the orange tip, making it indistinguishable from a real gun at a glance.
It's also not unreasonable to think that a kid may have a real gun because tons of shitty adults don't secure them enough.
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-10-19
How often do kids with guns have a real gun? I legit cannot remember a story where a kid (not teen) with a "gun" actually had a real gun and shot a cop with it. It's a pretty safe assumption to think that a kid with a gun is probably holding a toy gun.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-10-19
Yeah except kids have killed people before with guns because their parents are fucking retards.
1 AlveolarPressure 2018-10-19
Usually they kill themselves or a friend by accident. They don't go around shooting cops on the reg and they are never good shots. I think the cops should give kids the benefit of the doubt because otherwise they might kill an innocent 10 year old.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-10-19
Yeah except they weren't toddlers and even paintball or BB guns can seriously injure or maim people. Don't pull weapons on people.
The water guns I played with as a kid wear all fucking neon and shit and zero threat of imitation. If people want to act retarded I am not going to suffer for it or operate on the pretense that they will probably miss. Even worse is telling people who are at risk they they should put themselves at even higher risk as a response to idiotic actions of others.
If a kid is carrying a weapon, the people to blame for any injuries are their parents, not the people that have to deal with the aftermath.
1 BeerusandChampa4ever 2018-10-19
Out chapotard NPC
1 istural 2018-10-19
You are retarded.
1 newcomer_ts 2018-10-19
1 nicerredditaccount 2018-10-19
This thread is the worst mod for Rome: Total War.