r/drama: Doctor Who 11x03 "Rosa" Post-Episode Discussion Thread • r/doctorwho

Amatuer... Start with the Colin Baker series as he attempts to recreate the Peter Davidson magic and fails spectacularly. The show literally can't be worse than that.

1 headasplodes 2018-10-22

There's heavy handed political messages then there's having an episode that's literally about rosa parks

1 live_lavish 2018-10-22

Is Rosa Parks the first historical figure to be on Doctor Who?

1 Caragorpuppy 2018-10-22

Adolf beat her to it.

1 Gil-Gandel 2018-10-22

Not even close.

1 HailSanta2512 2018-10-22

Just go back and watch David Tennant and Matt Smith's tenure. The rest will be crap by default.

1 dramasexual 2018-10-22

Imagine taking doctor who seriously

1 NormanImmanuel 2018-10-22

time-capeshit is bad

It only took them like 10 seasons and 5 different main characters to figure it out.

1 KaraBogan 2018-10-22

I never got the love for this show, this is CW capeshit level cheesiness.

1 1029384756-mk2 2018-10-22

Capeshit?

1 Baconlightning 2018-10-22

Hopefully Doctor Who follow their own rules and end it after the 13th doctor.

1 saint2e 2018-10-22

Technically, they're already on 14.

1 WorstHombre 2018-10-22

15, if you count the second 10.

Guess how I know OP doesn't watch the show.

1 saint2e 2018-10-22

True... There's also the Valeyard, but let us not speak of that.

1 Whaddaulookinat 2018-10-22

An entire series meta story about the Doctor being on trial for War Crimes essentially, officiated a Master created homunculus of the Doctor's dark side in order to wreck the Time Lord council should've been gold. But it felt like a mess.

1 rationalhuckleberry 2018-10-22

Technically they already broke it with some wibbly wobbly timey whiney fuckery

1 wisty 2018-10-22

Not if you assume the Moffatt years was just a time loop that deleted itself.

1 KingNothing305 2018-10-22

They gave him more regenerations.

1 kingofthehill5 2018-10-22

Imao the mayos get really uppity whenever the tv shows their racism.

1 XakeMarte 2018-10-22

Anglos smh tbh fam

1 Manannin 2018-10-22

I think Gammon is the correct term tbh.

1 Corporal-Hicks 2018-10-22

the gaters predicted this

1 futurdrama 2018-10-22

Can someone explain what the fuck the drama assuming I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of awful British TV for losers mad that superheroes are popular now, and that sentences like "OMG Dr. Who zapped Mr. Robot with a quantum resonator and he got sent into the flux vortex!!!!" mean nothing to me

1 wisty 2018-10-22

It means "the actor made a funny face and waved a prop around and this moved the plot forward in the right direction because of willing suspension of disbelief".

1 Nanaki__ 2018-10-22

There seems to be some animosity that stopping Rosa Parks would have somehow stopped the civil rights movement in the US.

When in truth the NAACP was already looking for a lead plaintiff in a case to test the constitutionality of the Jim Crow law. So if the events of that day were changed it would just be the next person to trigger things.

The first person to refuse to move and was arrested was

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudette_Colvin

This event took place nine months before the NAACP secretary Rosa Parks was famously arrested for the same offense. Claudette Colvin: "My mother told me to be quiet about what I did. She told me to let Rosa be the one: white people aren't going to bother Rosa, they like her".

For many years, Montgomery's black leaders did not publicize Colvin's pioneering effort because she was a teenager who was reportedly made pregnant by a married man.

1 Shitposting_Skeleton 2018-10-22

It seems as though history is full of "Inspiring Moment!"*

*Inspiring moment subject to biases and cold Machiavellian calculations.

1 TheCodexx 2018-10-22

"My mother told me to be quiet about what I did. She told me to let Rosa be the one: white people aren't going to bother Rosa, they like her"

That's some real NAACPrivilege right there.

1 Corporal-Hicks 2018-10-22

[ITT: Bunch of butt hurt white people bitching about a show showing them how shitty white people were when they have too much power. Black people had it shit back then because of ya'll. Deal with it.

I'm drowning in the tears.](https://www.reddit.com/r/doctorwho/comments/9q670k/doctor_who_11x03_rosa_postepisode_discussion/e87retx/)

If you wan to get right to the drama

1 The_DHC 2018-10-22

y'all

1 diggity_md 2018-10-22

mayo

1 DeathByDragonDildo 2018-10-22

Even worse

ya'll

1 satanismyhomeboy 2018-10-22

The elusive ultrawoke version

1 cheeZetoastee 2018-10-22

Plain and simple, I watch this show for entertainment. And not to get this whole political thing jammed down my throat.

yet again the rightoids with the homosexual imagery.

🤔🤔🤔

1 liamemsa 2018-10-22

I try to watch sci-fi, and all of a sudden I have this whole, large, thick political issue lubed up and inserted deep into my anus.

1 rationalhuckleberry 2018-10-22

White people are really uncomfortable when shown the reality of the past and how racist it was for non-whites. They either rationalize saying it wasn't too bad as is stated, or that it was in the past and we can move on and have moved on. They don't want to look at it directly or just take a moment to think about how it is from a non-white person's perspective.

Now just swap in the colors of your choice!

But seriously DW fans are the best for drama. They’ll get riled up over any little thing and worship a TARDIS.

1 2odastream 2018-10-22

Doctor Who fans: white people complaining about white people because they're white.

1 Power_Incarnate 2018-10-22

It should be law that all y'all posters should be beaten into a coma.

1 Khazuki_SMB 2018-10-22

Fuckin' right, y'all.

1 aelfwine_widlast 2018-10-22

I haven't watched any of the new season yet. I was fine with Jodie taking the role, but the marketing campaign leading up to the season kinda killed my enthusiasm.

1 anonymous93 2018-10-22

The first two episodes are actually pretty good. The "wokest" thing they pull is that the black guy has dyspraxia.

1 2odastream 2018-10-22

Dyspraxia? Does that mean bad acting?

1 CucksLoveTrump 2018-10-22

dyspraxia.

Shouldn't the black dude have sickle cell anemia?

1 1029384756-mk2 2018-10-22

Isn't doctor who apprehending a time traveling white supremacist from stopping rosa parks litterally tumblr levels of fanfiction?

1 anonymous93 2018-10-22

Haven't seen the new episode yet. I probably won't tbh, because it sounds like absolute wank.

1 TheSmugAnimeGirl 2018-10-22

From what I read, there's been complaints about some hamfisted politics each episode. First episode had a throwaway line about the Sonic Screwdriver being like a Swiss Army Knife, "but not actually a knife because knives are for idiots." And then the last episode had a weird scene where the Doctor was chewing out one of the companions for suggesting they use guns. Not because of the fact that the guns literally didn't work on the enemy they were fighting, but because pacifist reasons.

I don't watch the show though, only heard about the drama from those Dr Who threads.

1 911roofer 2018-10-22

The Doctor being a smug stupid hypocrite is actually totally in character.

1 TurkoScum 2018-10-22

The no-gun shit has been a thing for very long time. I'm okay with the character being against guns (like that flying mammal capeshit), but it's unbearable when they drag it out with Doctor being all holier-than-thou for 2 minutes. Especially so when you consider he has broken his "pacifist" crap before.

1 anonymous93 2018-10-22

Doctor was chewing out one of the companions for suggesting they use guns

That's why I really liked the new companions. He told her to fuck off and used guns anyway.

1 ImAGayRetard 2018-10-22

Here's some low effort bait from comedian Limmy.

https://twitter.com/DaftLimmy/status/1054275158679216128?s=20

1 King_Drumpf 2018-10-22

No actress is safe from the capeshitcels.

1 BurgerLaowai 2018-10-22

The industrial revolution was a mistake.

1 KingNothing305 2018-10-22

Didnt the show go on and on about how certain events cant be changed? Wouldnt Rosa Parks be one?

1 Gtyyler 2018-10-22

Just because the doctor is now a woman doesnt mean you have to write like one.

1 Gtyyler 2018-10-22

It is one thing to have a political message and another to shove your head up your own ass to sniff your own farts.

1 Unkill_is_dill 2018-10-22

Mayo fragility is real. Can't even show historical events these days without caring about mayo feelings.

1 IFuckedZoeQuinn 2018-10-22

If you watch Dr. Libcuck then you are a cuckold. End of story. It is literally a preachy, low-quality children's show for lefty mongs.

1 Metatron58 2018-10-22

a friend of mine has been a long time Dr who fan but he gave up after the season previous to the current one. Reason being is the BBC is pretty going insane and Dr Who is their primary megaphone for their agenda pushing nonsense.

I don't know how it will all play out but according to my friend's rants on the matter the fans are gonna turn on the show this season.

Based on what I saw from trailers and the discussion on it OP linked it looks like my friend's prediction is coming true. Turns out people want Dr Who to be a fun scifi romp, not a poorly made, horribly misinformed political message shoved down your throat on a weekly basis.

1 SandorClegane_AMA 2018-10-22

Title with zero value add.

1 pepperouchau 2018-10-22

This is just ripping off Time Squad tbqh

1 liamemsa 2018-10-22

Man, this is unprecedented territory. Science fiction has never used that medium to tackle current political issues of the day. Never. Not in the history of science fiction.

1 GunOfSod 2018-10-22

Some science fiction even manages thoughful social commentary without being a hamfisted cringefest.

1 KingWayneX 2018-10-22

Riker bangs a transman but loses her to religious fundamentalism is a favorite.