Its going to be hilarious to see the next wave of automation sweep through previously "safe" jobs, and society actually has to start asking "are you one of the few people on earth who actually means anythign to society like Jeff Bezos?" when allocating resources.
Notice how in environmentalism, its always those other people have to give up their stuff? What we should really be asking is, do the members of the IT/CS department that gets mad redundant by a single tensorflow chip running a learning algorithm deserve any of the earths remaining resources?
The solution to global warming isn't to persecute the 1%; its to slaughter the least productive 99%.
Honestly researchers are just as replaceable, because all they're doing is applying analysis to data, something that computers are very good at. The least replaceable people are those that have mastered the still poorly understood human element and can lead or manage other people.
Literally every wave of automation in human history has created more jobs than it destroyed. Reddit sounds like freaking Luddites by constantly panicking over this.
The bots will be designed by genetic algorithms, and supervised by some sort of distributed cloud system.
I'm not saying we're ready to right away kill every piece of human oversight, but instead of every factory needing 50 humans to manage it, there will be one ""human"" in india with access to a massive cloud stack that oversees thousands of factories and gives ""him"" a feed of problems that require """human""" intervention.
Let's say it rains and the ceiling leaks and one of the machines short circuits. What does the """human""" do when he sees that and knows he'll get fired if he doesn't do something about it.
The short circuit kicks off one of the 30 redundant backup circuits that the robot that build the factory designed, and janitorbot 3000 comes in and cleans away the spill while the affected machine's self-healing circuits begin repairing it terminator style.
Humans will find new jobs that aren't factory jobs. You think there were this many musicians, singers or entertainers in general 100 years ago? What about psychologists? Graphic design? Eating out was nowhere near as common back then as it is now, so many new restaurants now exist than they did in the past.
Humans always want more stuff and other humans will gladly provide them with it. We aren't going to be seeing mass unemployment for a long time.
You think there were this many musicians, singers or entertainers in general 100 years ago? What about psychologists?
No, people didn't have the same expectation of being a useless jackoff and still being able to provide for themselves 100 years ago. If anything this is proof people are starting to mentally transition into the welfare state mentality. Psychologists are that part of the strata of "people with people skills" who will survive automation at least for the next phase. Its the useless jerkoffs who confuse writing javascript with creative work who are going to all get laid off.
Eating out was nowhere near as common back then as it is now, so many new restaurants now exist than they did in the past.
And those restaurants now rely more and more on machines, both in the sense that their prices are only sustainable with mechanized agriculture, and to employ fewer staff to feed more people.
The only thing disguising the impact of mechanization is the population boom and liberal policymakers in western countries who import people from the third world at a rate that makes it cheaper to employ people than machines for certain tasks.
We aren't going to be seeing mass unemployment for a long time.
Agreed, once the unemployment rate hits ~15% we're going to see civil unrest, followed by war, followed by regime changes that will finally put gamers to death and solve the population crisis.
How about you listen to economists and not your armchair theory? Immigration is beneficial for the economy in the long run and Automation isn't an issue for a long time.
Would you try and explain to an Engineer about your idea of how an airplane should be built or would you trust them to do it on their own?
How about you listen to economists and not your armchair theory?
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Immigration is beneficial for the economy in the long run and Automation isn't an issue for a long time
Is throwing your dignity away really worth the discounted pizzas you get for making these comments? Its "beneficial" in the sense that the 1% who control a greater and greater % of the world's wealth are aided by this. It straightforwardly depresses wages and undermines labor negotiations.
Would you try and explain to an Engineer about your idea of how an airplane should be built or would you trust them to do it on their own?
If an airplane drops out of the sky due to bad engineering, the engineers are in trouble. When a country's economy collapses due to listening to some idiot's economic theory nothing happens, except maybe they get a nobel prize.
Why does me being correct about the long-term futility of growth based economics in a world with finite resources upset you so much? Are you maybe one of the first on the robotic chopping block?
Only due to the fact that the human population has kept growing, and the "second tier" jobs e.g. taking care of the machines was not automatable. Straightforwardly modern automation is going to permanently replace jobs in a way that the unwashed undergraduate degree having masses are never going to recover from.
These guys actually think the best CEOs are no better than them at managing a company. Companies that won't raise your wages by $1 somehow hire these guys for 7 figures because of some Bourgeoisie loyalty towards their own kind or something?
There's private school fuckbuddery involved but yeah it's pretty difficult to fail upwards that far unless father was also the CEO. 99% of the time those people are good for something.
Some of them act like the world is gonna end in the next 50 years because of the environment. Like no sweaty the dinosaurs 🦖 are gonna end it and end it soon
Earning like 300k+ puts you in the 1% in the US. Lots of doctors, lawyers and even Bernie Sanders himself is in the 1% in the US, you don't have to go global. They don't support taxing lawyers or doctors more. Their entire goal is to tax an ever increasing amount from an ever smaller portion of the population to the point where they just seize Bezos's wealth and try to pay for the entire nation by it.
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1 LSU_Coonass 2018-11-04
I love how redditors are so anally devastated some people have more money they could ever dream of.
1 Think_Once 2018-11-04
And the best thing is that hating rich people isn't limited to one side. I mean if a "all billionaires are parasites" is upvoted on T_D ..
https://www.reddit.com/r/the_donald/comments/9tex3o/_/e8wpg0y?context=3
1 SuperObviousShill 2018-11-04
Its going to be hilarious to see the next wave of automation sweep through previously "safe" jobs, and society actually has to start asking "are you one of the few people on earth who actually means anythign to society like Jeff Bezos?" when allocating resources.
Notice how in environmentalism, its always those other people have to give up their stuff? What we should really be asking is, do the members of the IT/CS department that gets mad redundant by a single tensorflow chip running a learning algorithm deserve any of the earths remaining resources?
The solution to global warming isn't to persecute the 1%; its to slaughter the least productive 99%.
1 Tell_them_to_shrug 2018-11-04
Reddit has a completely self unaware bias that the smartest, least replaceable people in society are programmers and computer science graduates.
Because a nuclear physicist or chemist could never figure out how to write code.
1 SuperObviousShill 2018-11-04
Honestly researchers are just as replaceable, because all they're doing is applying analysis to data, something that computers are very good at. The least replaceable people are those that have mastered the still poorly understood human element and can lead or manage other people.
1 Tell_them_to_shrug 2018-11-04
I don’t disagree with that, although it’s harder to quantify leadership ability for the autistic minds that tend to argue over this shit.
1 SuperObviousShill 2018-11-04
Leading the autistic on the other hand is easy; we've known how for decades but the leftist outcry has made it difficult to use. Shock collars.
1 LSU_Coonass 2018-11-04
Literally every wave of automation in human history has created more jobs than it destroyed. Reddit sounds like freaking Luddites by constantly panicking over this.
1 aX10mAt1CaL1Y 2018-11-04
Just think of how many supervisors and bot designers we'll need to run an automated factory to keep it up to date and to maintain parts.
1 SuperObviousShill 2018-11-04
The bots will be designed by genetic algorithms, and supervised by some sort of distributed cloud system.
I'm not saying we're ready to right away kill every piece of human oversight, but instead of every factory needing 50 humans to manage it, there will be one ""human"" in india with access to a massive cloud stack that oversees thousands of factories and gives ""him"" a feed of problems that require """human""" intervention.
1 aX10mAt1CaL1Y 2018-11-04
Let's say it rains and the ceiling leaks and one of the machines short circuits. What does the """human""" do when he sees that and knows he'll get fired if he doesn't do something about it.
1 SuperObviousShill 2018-11-04
The short circuit kicks off one of the 30 redundant backup circuits that the robot that build the factory designed, and janitorbot 3000 comes in and cleans away the spill while the affected machine's self-healing circuits begin repairing it terminator style.
1 Skyright 2018-11-04
Humans will find new jobs that aren't factory jobs. You think there were this many musicians, singers or entertainers in general 100 years ago? What about psychologists? Graphic design? Eating out was nowhere near as common back then as it is now, so many new restaurants now exist than they did in the past.
Humans always want more stuff and other humans will gladly provide them with it. We aren't going to be seeing mass unemployment for a long time.
1 SuperObviousShill 2018-11-04
No, people didn't have the same expectation of being a useless jackoff and still being able to provide for themselves 100 years ago. If anything this is proof people are starting to mentally transition into the welfare state mentality. Psychologists are that part of the strata of "people with people skills" who will survive automation at least for the next phase. Its the useless jerkoffs who confuse writing javascript with creative work who are going to all get laid off.
And those restaurants now rely more and more on machines, both in the sense that their prices are only sustainable with mechanized agriculture, and to employ fewer staff to feed more people.
The only thing disguising the impact of mechanization is the population boom and liberal policymakers in western countries who import people from the third world at a rate that makes it cheaper to employ people than machines for certain tasks.
Agreed, once the unemployment rate hits ~15% we're going to see civil unrest, followed by war, followed by regime changes that will finally put gamers to death and solve the population crisis.
1 Skyright 2018-11-04
r/economics FAQ on Automation
r/economics FAQ on immigration.
How about you listen to economists and not your armchair theory? Immigration is beneficial for the economy in the long run and Automation isn't an issue for a long time.
Would you try and explain to an Engineer about your idea of how an airplane should be built or would you trust them to do it on their own?
1 SuperObviousShill 2018-11-04
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...No?
Is throwing your dignity away really worth the discounted pizzas you get for making these comments? Its "beneficial" in the sense that the 1% who control a greater and greater % of the world's wealth are aided by this. It straightforwardly depresses wages and undermines labor negotiations.
If an airplane drops out of the sky due to bad engineering, the engineers are in trouble. When a country's economy collapses due to listening to some idiot's economic theory nothing happens, except maybe they get a nobel prize.
Why does me being correct about the long-term futility of growth based economics in a world with finite resources upset you so much? Are you maybe one of the first on the robotic chopping block?
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1 SuperObviousShill 2018-11-04
Only due to the fact that the human population has kept growing, and the "second tier" jobs e.g. taking care of the machines was not automatable. Straightforwardly modern automation is going to permanently replace jobs in a way that the unwashed undergraduate degree having masses are never going to recover from.
1 horriblenutsslayer 2018-11-04
Hegelian technocratic ecofascism is unironically one of the wokest and most redpilled meme ideologies.
1 Used_Loli_Parts 2018-11-04
Good to see the materialistic youth crumble in their own jealousy
1 shaneoffline 2018-11-04
But we just ate all the best organizers
1 Skyright 2018-11-04
These guys actually think the best CEOs are no better than them at managing a company. Companies that won't raise your wages by $1 somehow hire these guys for 7 figures because of some Bourgeoisie loyalty towards their own kind or something?
1 RecallRethuglicans 2018-11-04
No they do it because Republicans support excessive unregulated capitalism
1 metameanderer 2018-11-04
Hell yeah
1 FratboyGenius 2018-11-04
There's private school fuckbuddery involved but yeah it's pretty difficult to fail upwards that far unless father was also the CEO. 99% of the time those people are good for something.
1 Sojir 2018-11-04
Also the inevitable: no true communism. If you look it from a memetic point of view chomsky might be one of the most successful being in existence.
1 vjaY619 2018-11-04
Oh those poor ignorant idiots. They truly believe once the violent revolution set place they wouldn't be killed in the process as well.
Or even better, that some wouldn't take the chance to take control and form a oppressive government.
1 Cdace 2018-11-04
Some of them act like the world is gonna end in the next 50 years because of the environment. Like no sweaty the dinosaurs 🦖 are gonna end it and end it soon
1 LSU_Coonass 2018-11-04
Based and dinopilled
1 CherryKirsche 2018-11-04
The end is not gonna end, but human civilisation as we know it just might
1 Cdace 2018-11-04
It’ll end for you but not for the dinosaurs 🦖
1 RadioFreeReddit 2018-11-04
“An Unironic Proposal “ by Jonathon Swift
1 jaredschaffer27 2018-11-04
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/050615/are-you-top-one-percent-world.asp
http://www.globalrichlist.com/
Surprise, surprise. The median per capita income in the US puts you in the top 1% of planet Earth. Eat the tankies, I say.
1 Skyright 2018-11-04
Earning like 300k+ puts you in the 1% in the US. Lots of doctors, lawyers and even Bernie Sanders himself is in the 1% in the US, you don't have to go global. They don't support taxing lawyers or doctors more. Their entire goal is to tax an ever increasing amount from an ever smaller portion of the population to the point where they just seize Bezos's wealth and try to pay for the entire nation by it.
1 ron_burgendy6969 2018-11-04
Something tells me the guy posting that the workers unite doesn't actually have a job...
1 Tell_them_to_shrug 2018-11-04
In his head, "workers" means the people that man the cash register at T.J. Maxx.
The average Redditor has never come within 50 feet of a steelworker.
1 orchidmantis94 2018-11-04
Idk about the politics of it but cannibalism is objectively hot so I support this.