When you've been posting creative writing exercises on /r/Relationship_Advice for long enough, I assume you begin wanting to expand your horizons and seek out new lakes to sink your bait into.
Those studies that show it were done under the DSM IV definition of GID that included gender non conformity as a diagnostic criteria. Christtards would refer their kids to a gender identity clinic because they were a boy who liked playing with dolls or a girl who liked playing with toy trucks. Lo and behold, these kids weren’t fucking trans. So the diagnostic criteria was amended so that only kids with an explicit stated and persistent desire to be a different gender were actually trans. These studies were only looking at prepubescent children who werent getting hormone blockers anyway. When looking at the pubescent population, i.e. the population that’s actually receiving blockers, they overwhelmingly persisted in being trans. And it’s not like children aren’t being put through a rigorous process. Informed consent clinics are really only a thing for adults
A. A strong and persistent cross-gender identification (not merely a desire for any perceived cultural advantages of being the other sex). In children, the disturbance is manifested by four (or more) of the following:
repeatedly stated desire to be, or insistence that he or she is, the other sex
in boys, preference for cross-dressing or simulating female attire; in girls, insistence on wearing only stereotypical masculine clothing
strong and persistent preferences for cross-sex roles in make-believe play or persistent fantasies of being the other sex
intense desire to participate in the stereotypical games and pastimes of the other sex
strong preference for playmates of the other sex
B. Persistent discomfort with his or her sex or sense of inappropriateness in the gender role of that sex.
C. The disturbance is not concurrent with a physical intersex condition.
D. The disturbance causes clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
A1 was kept in. But this was one possible means of receiving a GID diagnosis. Everything else in this criteria refers to gender roles, not being the gender itself.
My parents encouraged me to even take my dresses to school and to tell the other kids "This is who I am, deal with it". They felt it would toughen me up. And teach the other kids a lesson about acceptance. Reality was, I was mercilessly bullied.
I hear this story repeated so many times. It's like liberals don't know how kids work
I don't know what you're reading, but the majority of liberals aren't pressuring their kids to wear clothes associated with the opposite gender. However, you will of course find that liberals are quite liberal (surprisingly) and don't encourage their kids to conform to society's expectations (shockingly). When other people's kids are raised with a certain closed minded worldview that can be a problem of course. But again, kids have to be given some leeway in making some decisions. A child viewed as a boy wearing a dress to school is nothing different than a child wearing an ugly shirt that they like to school. They may get bullied for it, but it's a learning experience. You can't protect your kids from everything, and not letting them learn, stand up for themselves, or alter their behaviour as necessary does not help.
The progressive parenting advice often given is "just be yourself and don't care what others think! Just paint a giant target on yourself and don't feel bad when people try to literally kick the shit out of you."
Its child abuse to do that and not at least enroll the kid in a kick boxing or wrestling class or something.
the majority of liberals
I’ve come to realize that a distinction has to be made between liberals and progressives. If conservatives are dicks, and liberals are pussies, then progressives are a bunch of gaping assholes.
don't encourage their kids to conform to society's expectations (shockingly)
literally child abuse
Is the whole point of r/self to make up unsubstantiated bullshit and have one comment saying: "whether it is true or not we should still use this to push my agenda."
If there's one thing you should take-away from the incel daddy post and this post, is that idea of parental responsibility and influence is completely dead. You can force your children into transgenderism, you can be completely apethetic to them, it doesn't matter. As long as they're "on the right side of history" and don't slightly hit them with la chancla, they're wonderful parents.
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Stop being such a whore for knowledge or reason. You just need to learn how to speak outrage culture. Everybody you disagree with and everybody who says or does something that makes you feel upset is a cultural Marxist.
Generally you have to see a therapist for at least a year straight before you can get prescribed hormones. It's not like you can just go on a whim to your local CVS or Walgreens and pick some up hormones cause you feel like a girl that day.
Correct. I personally believe literally everything is a conspiracy woven together by Marxists, Blockbuster, VHS industry and people who speak Esperanto as their first language.
If you'd like a seriouspost translation;
It is likely that demented nu-right conspiracy theories and culture war is making you feel very bad and confused. Use less internet and you will start feeling less bad and less confused.
I was confused a lot growing up. I didn't really know what gender to conform to. Rough sports, tackling, fighting, it made me so uncomfortable. I was not like the other boys. And when I raised the point with my (very liberal) parents, they supported me fully and suggested I may be "born in the wrong body". I was even more confused when they said this.
For all these years growing up I had looked at Disney movies wanting to be not the prince, but the princess and frequently dressing up as one. My parents encouraged me to even take my dresses to school and to tell the other kids "This is who I am, deal with it". They felt it would toughen me up. And teach the other kids a lesson about acceptance. Reality was, I was mercilessly bullied.
Fast forward some years. I am twelve and have already been in therapy since age 9. I am suicidal. I want to be a girl so I won't be bullied anymore. They put me on puberty blockers. They tell me about the dangers, briefly, but it does not really reach me. At first it's bliss... I do not get the beard. I do not get the larger genitals. I can still hide and tuck easily. I'm free...
Fast forward another four years. I am sixteen and start hormones. Doubts are setting in my but my father took me aside and told me, before my first shot: "You have gone too far at this point. Don't throw away the years you suffered for being who you truly are". I go through with it. For about six months and at that point, I insist on stopping. That it is not who I want to be. I have a bit of a "reverse coming out" with my parents. It's scary as hell. Mother cries. Father comforts her. I almost feel like a disappointment.
Now I am in my twenties. Scary thing is, my development never fully caught up. I am short at 5'6" and I have very thin, whispy facial hair. My penis is underveloped, only about four inches fully erect. My testicles are small as well, Orchidometer puts me at the age of twelve. They produce no sperm. Zero. I went on testosterone at 17 trying to patch things up but my body just never started to develop sperm anymore. The ship has sailed. And because I never even had any to begin with, going on puberty blockers age 12, I never had the chance to store sperm either.
I am now in my twenties. Sterile. I am far shorter than my male cousins and father who are all in the 6'3"-6'5" range. I feel insecure about my body. I feel like my life was stolen from me by overly permissive parents.
Giving hormones to kids is immoral, unethical and evil. It should be outlawed in this society.
it IS removed. it fucking says [removed] you fuckin idiot. and stop calling me a pet. you literally react to whatever i say so who owns who, jack? i make the waves and you are the one that has to deal with them. your the pet and im the master.
I'm not gonna lie, I didn't even know puberty blockers was a thing. Why would someone give that to a kid? It's a kid, they don't know what the fuck they want yet. Hell, I wanted to be a famous soccer player when I was a kid, now I work at a bank, the most boring job you can get.
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1 Beardlessneckman 2018-11-11
Marking my spot for incoming drama.
1 gilmore606 2018-11-11
me too thanks
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1 pisserpatterwater 2018-11-11
Pizzashill on his alt.
1 Sojir 2018-11-11
We need an investigation. It's turning out to be a dramamine
1 itsCaffeine 2018-11-11
Insider trading. 👀
1 dongas420 2018-11-11
When you've been posting creative writing exercises on /r/Relationship_Advice for long enough, I assume you begin wanting to expand your horizons and seek out new lakes to sink your bait into.
1 iknighty 2018-11-11
There are a lot of men that fit that description that didn't use puberty blockers.
1 bittah_prophet 2018-11-11
“””””men”””””
1 CashMoneyPimp 2018-11-11
Being a soyboy is reversible, you just have to become a proud boy.
1 Capricorgicorn 2018-11-11
Both like butt plugs so it makes sense.
1 A4QualityPaper 2018-11-11
Imagine going from a feminine pussy to an autistic pussy
1 A4QualityPaper 2018-11-11
Look we're all autistic here. We don't get subtle humour
1 CashMoneyPimp 2018-11-11
Ha ha just kidding I'm not just a proud boy, but a proud autistic boy
got u
1 Snakeyez 2018-11-11
I think you to switch you just have to get your Pickle Rick tattoo reworked into a Confederate flag and you're finished.
1 necromatriarch 2018-11-11
Twinks.
1 POST_BUSSY 2018-11-11
I feel attacked
1 The_Reason_Trump_Won 2018-11-11
Fake
1 BriefSquirt 2018-11-11
Tbh this was the reason he won tho
1 Medibee 2018-11-11
Plot twist: OP is actually Barron.
1 wayback000 2018-11-11
Except for the fact that stories like this are common, and some crazy high number of trans people go back to being cis after a few years.
1 dramasexual 2018-11-11
Only true for child transitioners tbqh. People who transition as adults usually stick w/it.
But for kids it's something like 80% reidentify with their actual gender by adulthood.
1 transgirltradwife 2018-11-11
Those studies that show it were done under the DSM IV definition of GID that included gender non conformity as a diagnostic criteria. Christtards would refer their kids to a gender identity clinic because they were a boy who liked playing with dolls or a girl who liked playing with toy trucks. Lo and behold, these kids weren’t fucking trans. So the diagnostic criteria was amended so that only kids with an explicit stated and persistent desire to be a different gender were actually trans. These studies were only looking at prepubescent children who werent getting hormone blockers anyway. When looking at the pubescent population, i.e. the population that’s actually receiving blockers, they overwhelmingly persisted in being trans. And it’s not like children aren’t being put through a rigorous process. Informed consent clinics are really only a thing for adults
1 dramasexual 2018-11-11
Christtards would refer their kids to a gender identity clinic because they were a boy who liked playing with dolls or a girl who liked playing with toy trucks.
oh wow it's super good the entire trans community doesn't heartily endorse doing that now then.
DSM-IV required a persistent cross-sex identification so you're full of shit.
transgirl tradwife
oh good lord lmfao
1 transgirltradwife 2018-11-11
Yeah they don’t endorse doing that, you tard
Now let’s see what the DSM IV actually said...
A. A strong and persistent cross-gender identification (not merely a desire for any perceived cultural advantages of being the other sex). In children, the disturbance is manifested by four (or more) of the following:
repeatedly stated desire to be, or insistence that he or she is, the other sex
in boys, preference for cross-dressing or simulating female attire; in girls, insistence on wearing only stereotypical masculine clothing
strong and persistent preferences for cross-sex roles in make-believe play or persistent fantasies of being the other sex
intense desire to participate in the stereotypical games and pastimes of the other sex
strong preference for playmates of the other sex
B. Persistent discomfort with his or her sex or sense of inappropriateness in the gender role of that sex.
C. The disturbance is not concurrent with a physical intersex condition.
D. The disturbance causes clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
A1 was kept in. But this was one possible means of receiving a GID diagnosis. Everything else in this criteria refers to gender roles, not being the gender itself.
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1 dramasexual 2018-11-11
I'm so not into seriousposting with some AGP dude in the drama subforum of reddit dot com. Go jack off into a mirror and have a good cry m8.
1 transgirltradwife 2018-11-11
Actually I have a good wank.
1 tfwnochaserbf 2018-11-11
pretty sure she's HSTS, unlike you.
1 dramasexual 2018-11-11
I mean you're not wrong. I'm an actual woman, so I don't at all fit the criteria for HSTS.
1 tfwnochaserbf 2018-11-11
roasties are obsolete
1 dramasexual 2018-11-11
He says, desperately wishing he was born one.
1 -Kite-Man- 2018-11-11
Can you imagine an adult having to admit they were wrong about that?
Pride is powerful.
1 dramasexual 2018-11-11
Plus they get viciously attacked and shunned by the entire trans community and """allies"""".
Good shit.
1 -Kite-Man- 2018-11-11
See my recent post history for example of that(and anyone who cares about those people) unfolding literally right now.
1 Ritthy 2018-11-11
Nope
1 dramasexual 2018-11-11
Nope what?
1 A4QualityPaper 2018-11-11
I hear this story repeated so many times. It's like liberals don't know how kids work
1 chumthescrubber 2018-11-11
https://abcnews.go.com/US/year-boy-commits-suicide-bullied-coming-mother/story?id=57427176
1 iknighty 2018-11-11
Just because you hear the same story many times doesn't mean it is representative of liberals.
1 Zizac 2018-11-11
except that bad parenting advice like this is parroted by progressive circles like its the next step to realizing a socialist utopia
1 iknighty 2018-11-11
I don't know what you're reading, but the majority of liberals aren't pressuring their kids to wear clothes associated with the opposite gender. However, you will of course find that liberals are quite liberal (surprisingly) and don't encourage their kids to conform to society's expectations (shockingly). When other people's kids are raised with a certain closed minded worldview that can be a problem of course. But again, kids have to be given some leeway in making some decisions. A child viewed as a boy wearing a dress to school is nothing different than a child wearing an ugly shirt that they like to school. They may get bullied for it, but it's a learning experience. You can't protect your kids from everything, and not letting them learn, stand up for themselves, or alter their behaviour as necessary does not help.
1 Zizac 2018-11-11
The progressive parenting advice often given is "just be yourself and don't care what others think! Just paint a giant target on yourself and don't feel bad when people try to literally kick the shit out of you."
Its child abuse to do that and not at least enroll the kid in a kick boxing or wrestling class or something.
1 thebuscompany 2018-11-11
1 TheColdTurtle 2018-11-11
Dont have kids, they will probably hurt themselves.
1 imstartingtogetangry 2018-11-11
So you confirm liberals are bad parents?
1 jko831 2018-11-11
It builds character!
1 wisty 2018-11-11
Yeah, everyone learns that boys in dresses get bullied. I'm not sure if that's a good message though.
1 plurpnslurp 2018-11-11
Society has expectations for a reason tho
1 seshfan2 2018-11-11
"I heard the same conservative outrage story 100 times, this MUST be an accurate representation of all liberals!
1 PM_tits_Im_Autistic 2018-11-11
It's kind of hard for me to believe bible-thumping conservatives would enable their kids mental illness by encouraging them to dress up.
1 Gtyyler 2018-11-11
Is the whole point of r/self to make up unsubstantiated bullshit and have one comment saying: "whether it is true or not we should still use this to push my agenda."
1 Medibee 2018-11-11
whether or not it is the point of /r/self I think that we should use /r/self to push our drama agenda.
1 Gtyyler 2018-11-11
I will post a heartwarming story of a group of mayo incels raping a POC woman and I was unable to call for help because spez took away our pings.
1 Medibee 2018-11-11
No pings, mo’ rapeings. Blood is on your hands spez.
1 PUBLIQclopAccountant 2018-11-11
Just do it
1 Blinwar 2018-11-11
If there's one thing you should take-away from the incel daddy post and this post, is that idea of parental responsibility and influence is completely dead. You can force your children into transgenderism, you can be completely apethetic to them, it doesn't matter. As long as they're "on the right side of history" and don't slightly hit them with la chancla, they're wonderful parents.
1 RyuunDragon 2018-11-11
This but instead of unironically, it's depressing.
1 PracticalOnions 2018-11-11
😥😥😥
1 NateTheMuggy 2018-11-11
El cinturón
1 Medibee 2018-11-11
Well since he can't really be a man with that height and penis I suggest he go full circle and become a trap for those patron bux.
1 HeylebItsCaleb 2018-11-11
1 nosocks111 2018-11-11
What sort of an absolute retard does not believe that putting children on hormones to """fix""" their gender is evil?
1 mcantrell 2018-11-11
Marxists.
1 Ferocetis 2018-11-11
And Jacobins.
1 Capricorgicorn 2018-11-11
Filthy Huguenots.
1 nosocks111 2018-11-11
For the most part, stuff like this is actually being peddled by Blockbuster and other VHS rental stores.
1 seshfan2 2018-11-11
I don't think Marx had a whole lot to say about the trants.
1 nosocks111 2018-11-11
Stop being such a whore for knowledge or reason. You just need to learn how to speak outrage culture. Everybody you disagree with and everybody who says or does something that makes you feel upset is a cultural Marxist.
1 seshfan2 2018-11-11
Good thing kids aren't being put on hormones then.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-11-11
Blockers absolutely fuck with people.
1 dramasexual 2018-11-11
Plus they put you on hormones before 18 all the time. 16 is pretty standard.
1 seshfan2 2018-11-11
Yes, so does most medicine. Doctors prescribe hormone blockers for kids for hormone-related illnesses all the time.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-11-11
So being a tranny is an illness?
1 seshfan2 2018-11-11
Uh, yeah? Generally people don't go to the doctor to get prescribed medicine and schedule surgery for shits and giggles.
1 CirqueDuFuder 2018-11-11
But they might change their mind. Doing shit to children comes off extreme to me.
1 seshfan2 2018-11-11
Generally you have to see a therapist for at least a year straight before you can get prescribed hormones. It's not like you can just go on a whim to your local CVS or Walgreens and pick some up hormones cause you feel like a girl that day.
1 Gnarled_Root 2018-11-11
Puritanical Focaultians/Marxists, creating false material gods whilst disavowing any god
1 nosocks111 2018-11-11
Correct. I personally believe literally everything is a conspiracy woven together by Marxists, Blockbuster, VHS industry and people who speak Esperanto as their first language.
If you'd like a seriouspost translation;
It is likely that demented nu-right conspiracy theories and culture war is making you feel very bad and confused. Use less internet and you will start feeling less bad and less confused.
1 Gnarled_Root 2018-11-11
Great, are you going to address things i said or a character you made up in your head?
1 Dupod 2018-11-11
1 LongPostBot 2018-11-11
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1 Patsy02 2018-11-11
Fix this typo right now fucking modlets REEEE
1 seshfan2 2018-11-11
This is the most obviously fake bait ever.
1 Wheretheflowersgrow 2018-11-11
Doesnt this get boring for bothe sides? (centerist hot take)
1 RandolphCox 2018-11-11
mods removed this but not the glaringly obvious fake post of the incel dad. poetic that this happens on veterans day...
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-11-11
This post was never removed, my retarded lolpet
1 RandolphCox 2018-11-11
it IS removed. it fucking says [removed] you fuckin idiot. and stop calling me a pet. you literally react to whatever i say so who owns who, jack? i make the waves and you are the one that has to deal with them. your the pet and im the master.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-11-11
I thought you meant the drama post 😂
Good boy!
1 RandolphCox 2018-11-11
i didnt write that someone else mustve and thinks the same thing as me
1 Brewmaster_Holsten 2018-11-11
Hitting all the Shapiro-checkboxes. Nice.
1 rileykard 2018-11-11
I'm not gonna lie, I didn't even know puberty blockers was a thing. Why would someone give that to a kid? It's a kid, they don't know what the fuck they want yet. Hell, I wanted to be a famous soccer player when I was a kid, now I work at a bank, the most boring job you can get.
1 tfwnochaserbf 2018-11-11
As a black man, I completely agree that this transgenderism bullshit has gone way too far.
1 sloppies 2018-11-11
Removed lol holy fuck.
1 seshfan2 2018-11-11
"As a former trans* person re-transitioning" is literally just /r/AsABlackMan but for trans people.
1 fluffykitty94 2018-11-11
The happiest child in the world.
https://i.imgur.com/u18psB2.jpg
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2018-11-11
Fake af. /r/drama takes the bait again