You sure about that? Wikipedia says Cretan hieroglyphs were invented around 1900 BC; Sumerian cuneiform and Egyptian hieroglyphs are from over 1,000 years before, and the Cretans traded with the Egyptians and Mesopotamians, so they must have found out about writing from them.
It’s debatable whether the Vinča symbols were a proper language at all. And in any case, they stopped being used long before the Cretan script started to be used. Just the fact that the Cretans were already aware of the concept of writing from other civilizations means that they can’t have developed it independently, even if their writing system isn’t directly based on the writing system of the people who gave them the idea of writing. For instance, the Egyptians might have gotten the idea of writing from the Sumerians, which would be enough to say that they didn’t develop writing independently, even though Egyptian hieroglyphs look nothing like Sumerian cuneiform.
That's a section of the current thinking. Trade and contact between the Eurasian areas of civilisation was relatively easy in the scheme o things. Foods, ideas, and goods moved between the various regions during the early years of civilisation. Mesopotamia clocks in at about 4000bc for writing, whereas China can only be dated roughly 2000 years after this. That is more than enough time for the idea to diffuse into China. There's other reasons that make it likely, but I'm not as familiar with them.
The Sahara isn't even that bad, especially once domesticated camels made it there. What is bad is the wet and fetid African tropics. That's where temperate are Eurasian civilisation came up against a wall. The topography, climate, animals and diseases made it almost impossible to traverse, and that is before you consider the horrible people that live there. As an example the rate of diffusion of domesticated plants and animals from east to west/ west to east was almost 100% and fairly quick, whereas before the European age it was almost nil north to south. Only and sheep made it past the equator, and only quite recently in the scheme of things.
Because if you do, that doesn't come onto the scene til the 11th AD century, which is pretty recent and doesn't say much about agricultural diffusion from earlier eras.
11th century AD is pretty late in the game in the history of civilisation. Next you'll be holding up Angkor Wat as something other than a great place to film an Indiana Jones film.
Also, could you write more legibly? You kinda sound like a complete fucking retard. Its making me feel yuck replying to you. Have the courage to say the things you mean without hiding behind retarded gibberish.
I agree with a lot of GGS, but his explanations get more ridiculous the later in history they go. Like when he suggested that Europe outpaced China solely because of geography.
He bitches about the "wrong people" referencing the Motte and Bailey concept, to say nothing of the incredibly pathetic saga of the "You are Still Crying Wolf" article.
Dude wrote a 10,000 word critique of how the media strategy for #resisting Trump was extremely hyperbolic (when it wasn't dishonest), counterproductive, probably helped get him elected in the first place, and was bad for society as the hysteria was leading to an increasing amount of Trump-related suicide attempts among his patients. It was an incredibly useful resource to calm down TDS types and I used it personally multiple times to soothe the fears of panicking family members.
When the harridans on the left started screeching at him and right-wingers had the temerity to link to the article because they too were concerned about the degree of media hysteria, he took the article down over concerns of the backlash harming his reputation, only to eventually put it up again, now with this gay-ass disclaimer on top of it when he got backlash for taking it down.
He strikes me as a fairly intelligent dude with far too much concern for the opinions of others and way too high an opinion of himself.
No it isn’t, Pharaoh Jamal and the mad scientist Yakub founded America many centuries ago. They sailed to the new world and left the mutant mayo (that yakub created) in the new world.
The European bit is just to discredit the black Egyptian’s glorious history.
tbf if we taught more non-European history maybe American mayos acting like whitoids are some uniquely evil menace to society would be less of a phenomenon.
95% of the endless self-flagellation would be a thing if these people read a book on the history of the Swahili coast or southeast Asia.
It's hilariously narcissistic when you think about it. "Only white people like myself are vile enough to do these kinds of things! I know because I have studied the only history that matters, that of Europeans!"
Lol, almost no one learns African history in the U.S. unless it is a college-level elective. School kids might learn about Ancient Egypt and African slaves in America, but no history of African civilizations.
Native American history is barely touched upon, except in the context of colonialism. Pre-Columbian American history is like 40 minutes of content over 13 years.
American public schools were created in the 19th century to assimilate immigrants' children into white Protestant American culture, so the curriculum has always reflected that goal. People who want their children taught comprehensive history have to find private (or charter) schools to do it, or homeschool, as I do.
There is almost no Native American history before Columbus. The only people who could write were the Maya, and the only other source besides writing is oral tradition. Anything pre-Columbian is speculative and more fit for an anthropology or archaeology class than a history class.
You are correct but most of them were destroyed. Interestingly some post conquest accounts were written in Spanish and the aztec language by the same authors
Which class let's you make a PowerPoint presentation for literally anything on your mind? I want to take that course despite graduating from grade school 12 years ago.
Even though it was mainly slavery and the civil rights movement
wtf is the problem with this, though. That's pretty much all the relevence black people had. Like it's they're the only two topics unique to black people in american history. And I learned about slavery and stuff when it was relevant to american history, idk what school only talks about the cause of the civil war to fufill an obligation to black history month.
Standard US history is a fucking joke. They skip the civil war and focus the entire curriculum on 150 years of baseball and consumerism. Imagine being envious at the white people nonsense that is taught to the retarded kids to dense to opt for an AP class.
Thanks for showing me you're not a part of the Tennessee curriculum you fucking ass hat medoid. Really makes me reference the bell curve for inferior races.
They unironically don't. They don't get enough respect or money to do anything but the bare minimum. That's why they're the most disdainful group in the American workforce. Those lazy bums couldn't be bothered copypasting my assignment into plagiarism software, much less go 10 years off curriculum to teach something nobody cares about.
I've had my spergout moments, and this probably isn't the worst of them (It's barely even a paragraph after all), but something about this encounter has left me frothing at the mouth audibly reacting to you, to which I say, you've won.
I grew up in TN. I remember studying the civil war in high school. There are pictures of me from when I was 15 dressed in both rebel gray and Union blue uniforms. I had to do a project on the battle of Shiloh. We went and camped on the battlefield and scared ourselves shitless thinking we saw dead soldier's ghosts.
I went to Shiloh with my mother and the dogs earlier this year in the spring. I really enjoyed myself. Right around the time the battle happened too. Maybe you were in before they changed the curriculum? Maybe the class wasn’t us history?
Why are you all such dumbasses. The original topic was about US History. Therefore, anything but Us History (as a class) is irrelevant. Why are you so unironically retarded
But I specifically referenced High school grade 11 standard us history. Could cede you that point if I haven’t DIRECTLY LINKED WHAT I WAS TALKIG ABOUT!!, but I gave you the link. Don’t try to act like I was talking about what a 3rd grader learns in an attempt to strengthen your point. The link I gave you was to Standard high school US history. Again, moving goalposts. Just say “I’m a dumb fuck” and get on with your day please.
You accuse other people of moving the goalposts while, in the same breath, claiming that you were referring to the 11th grade curriculum. Here is your original comment:
Hold up, you're retreating to the fact that it's called "United States History and Geography: Colonization of North America to Reconstruction" and not "Standard US History"? Well, the irony is that you are living, breathing proof that the U.S. public schools are shit.
Are you special needs? The course you linked to is specifically post civil war to present. You can’t point to a single class and claim they don’t teach the civil war.
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-11-19
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1 Standard12 2018-11-19
You've never failed me.
1 boyoyoyoyong 2018-11-19
Kind of hard to cover history of poc since a lot of them didn't even have a written language.
1 Therattlesnakemaster 2018-11-19
Just a socioeconomic coincidence
1 Imperial_Sardaukar 2018-11-19
Every civilization which has developed writing independently was POC. Just not black people. Or wh*tes, for that matter.
1 ShitsureiKamisama 2018-11-19
Thanks for this
1 -absolutego- 2018-11-19
If a Greek can be considered whites the Cretans did develop heiroglyphs independently.
1 Imperial_Sardaukar 2018-11-19
You sure about that? Wikipedia says Cretan hieroglyphs were invented around 1900 BC; Sumerian cuneiform and Egyptian hieroglyphs are from over 1,000 years before, and the Cretans traded with the Egyptians and Mesopotamians, so they must have found out about writing from them.
1 -absolutego- 2018-11-19
It's been a while since I read up on early Minoans, so you might be right. I thought the heiroglyphs were descended from Danubian proto-writing.
1 Imperial_Sardaukar 2018-11-19
It’s debatable whether the Vinča symbols were a proper language at all. And in any case, they stopped being used long before the Cretan script started to be used. Just the fact that the Cretans were already aware of the concept of writing from other civilizations means that they can’t have developed it independently, even if their writing system isn’t directly based on the writing system of the people who gave them the idea of writing. For instance, the Egyptians might have gotten the idea of writing from the Sumerians, which would be enough to say that they didn’t develop writing independently, even though Egyptian hieroglyphs look nothing like Sumerian cuneiform.
1 -absolutego- 2018-11-19
Ah, I thought you meant "independent" as "not based on another established written language", not "unaware of the concept entirely".
In any case, I bow to your deeper education on the matter.
1 Time_to_Drink 2018-11-19
Well there is only two places where we are ‘certain’ ‘Writing’ developed ‘independently’, and that is Mesopotamia and Mesoamerica.
Everywhere else is probably derivative to some extent.
1 -absolutego- 2018-11-19
No China? Was there actually sufficient trade along the silk road pre-writing for their script to be derivative?
I didn't think that was much of a thing until post-Sumer at least.
1 Time_to_Drink 2018-11-19
That's a section of the current thinking. Trade and contact between the Eurasian areas of civilisation was relatively easy in the scheme o things. Foods, ideas, and goods moved between the various regions during the early years of civilisation. Mesopotamia clocks in at about 4000bc for writing, whereas China can only be dated roughly 2000 years after this. That is more than enough time for the idea to diffuse into China. There's other reasons that make it likely, but I'm not as familiar with them.
1 -absolutego- 2018-11-19
huh, TIL. thanks.
1 wewladin 2018-11-19
Sahara desert be rayciss
1 Time_to_Drink 2018-11-19
The Sahara isn't even that bad, especially once domesticated camels made it there. What is bad is the wet and fetid African tropics. That's where temperate are Eurasian civilisation came up against a wall. The topography, climate, animals and diseases made it almost impossible to traverse, and that is before you consider the horrible people that live there. As an example the rate of diffusion of domesticated plants and animals from east to west/ west to east was almost 100% and fairly quick, whereas before the European age it was almost nil north to south. Only and sheep made it past the equator, and only quite recently in the scheme of things.
1 wewladin 2018-11-19
Oh god are tou a Jarrod taylor guns germs and steel fag?
1 Time_to_Drink 2018-11-19
Who?
1 wewladin 2018-11-19
That basic ass bitch viewpoint is very similar to that guys book.
Its a lot more complicated fhan mih temp muh disease
Greater zimbabwe was a small kingdom that was approaching cilivization but was dismantled in the 15th century iirc
Other than that just thr geography of sub saharan africa sucks, they were given a shit hand
1 Time_to_Drink 2018-11-19
Do you mean "Great Zimbabwe"?
Because if you do, that doesn't come onto the scene til the 11th AD century, which is pretty recent and doesn't say much about agricultural diffusion from earlier eras.
11th century AD is pretty late in the game in the history of civilisation. Next you'll be holding up Angkor Wat as something other than a great place to film an Indiana Jones film.
Also, could you write more legibly? You kinda sound like a complete fucking retard. Its making me feel yuck replying to you. Have the courage to say the things you mean without hiding behind retarded gibberish.
1 wewladin 2018-11-19
YIKES
I Lazily serious post my agenda on drama. At any rate you have small penis. Heh owned i win.
1 Imperial_Sardaukar 2018-11-19
I agree with a lot of GGS, but his explanations get more ridiculous the later in history they go. Like when he suggested that Europe outpaced China solely because of geography.
1 EmeraldFlight 2018-11-19
I have a half-chub at all the linguistics talk
1 Wave_Entity 2018-11-19
is this /r/ssc what the fuck you nerds
1 -absolutego- 2018-11-19
lol like I read anything written by that spineless faggot.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-11-19
The "Motte and Bailey" post was pretty good, although there's probably already something out there to captures the same idea.
1 -absolutego- 2018-11-19
He bitches about the "wrong people" referencing the Motte and Bailey concept, to say nothing of the incredibly pathetic saga of the "You are Still Crying Wolf" article.
Dude wrote a 10,000 word critique of how the media strategy for #resisting Trump was extremely hyperbolic (when it wasn't dishonest), counterproductive, probably helped get him elected in the first place, and was bad for society as the hysteria was leading to an increasing amount of Trump-related suicide attempts among his patients. It was an incredibly useful resource to calm down TDS types and I used it personally multiple times to soothe the fears of panicking family members.
When the harridans on the left started screeching at him and right-wingers had the temerity to link to the article because they too were concerned about the degree of media hysteria, he took the article down over concerns of the backlash harming his reputation, only to eventually put it up again, now with this gay-ass disclaimer on top of it when he got backlash for taking it down.
He strikes me as a fairly intelligent dude with far too much concern for the opinions of others and way too high an opinion of himself.
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1 -absolutego- 2018-11-19
lol I deserved that
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-11-19
Honestly, I think I've only read a handful of his posts. I remember two of them specifically.
This is the read I got, too.
1 Shitposting_Skeleton 2018-11-19
It's over for Eurofrican-cels.
1 Baconlightning 2018-11-19
It's almost as if European History is relevant as to the creation of the USA in the first place.
1 BeanerShnitzel 2018-11-19
No it isn’t, Pharaoh Jamal and the mad scientist Yakub founded America many centuries ago. They sailed to the new world and left the mutant mayo (that yakub created) in the new world.
The European bit is just to discredit the black Egyptian’s glorious history.
1 TontoGoldbergCA 2018-11-19
Preach.
1 80BAIT08 2018-11-19
Can I get an URHURU?
1 woetotheconquered 2018-11-19
Can I get a "fuck whitey" from the homies in the back!
1 OriginalRazzmatazz 2018-11-19
fuck whitey
1 wewladin 2018-11-19
DAS RIITE. DAS RIIITE
1 ltedt 2018-11-19
kang.
1 BasilandBergamo 2018-11-19
We wuz kangz
1 CrosbyStillzandSwag 2018-11-19
Get this "um sweetie" talk out of here retard
1 dramasexual 2018-11-19
Ummmmmmmmm sweatie using that ableist language is really problematic y'all. Yikes.
1 Ennui2778 2018-11-19
Oof.
1 g_sunn 2018-11-19
Gross!
1 quality_bratwurst 2018-11-19
Icky, yuck
1 -Shank- 2018-11-19
Let's unpack this...
1 -absolutego- 2018-11-19
tbf if we taught more non-European history maybe American mayos acting like whitoids are some uniquely evil menace to society would be less of a phenomenon.
95% of the endless self-flagellation would be a thing if these people read a book on the history of the Swahili coast or southeast Asia.
1 lightfire409 2018-11-19
Seriously. The amount of degenerates thinking white people invented war and death is far to fuckin high
1 -absolutego- 2018-11-19
It's hilariously narcissistic when you think about it. "Only white people like myself are vile enough to do these kinds of things! I know because I have studied the only history that matters, that of Europeans!"
1 Ganbazuroi 2018-11-19
This makes a lot of sense actually
1 newcomer_ts 2018-11-19
Where do I send twigs in lieu of money?
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2018-11-19
https://i.imgur.com/YMC6hSf.gif
1 PerineumPowerPunch 2018-11-19
Obviously European and African history is a major part of America but is Native American history taught on par with the other two?
1 foreoki12 2018-11-19
Lol, almost no one learns African history in the U.S. unless it is a college-level elective. School kids might learn about Ancient Egypt and African slaves in America, but no history of African civilizations.
Native American history is barely touched upon, except in the context of colonialism. Pre-Columbian American history is like 40 minutes of content over 13 years.
1 PerineumPowerPunch 2018-11-19
Holy shit. I honestly thought it would be more comprehensive than that.
1 foreoki12 2018-11-19
American public schools were created in the 19th century to assimilate immigrants' children into white Protestant American culture, so the curriculum has always reflected that goal. People who want their children taught comprehensive history have to find private (or charter) schools to do it, or homeschool, as I do.
1 -absolutego- 2018-11-19
Congratulations on raising the next generation of autists.
1 foreoki12 2018-11-19
Oh, bless your heart. That's not how autism works.
1 Imperial_Sardaukar 2018-11-19
There is almost no Native American history before Columbus. The only people who could write were the Maya, and the only other source besides writing is oral tradition. Anything pre-Columbian is speculative and more fit for an anthropology or archaeology class than a history class.
1 Time_to_Drink 2018-11-19
I thought the Aztecs had codices?
1 michaelisnotginger 2018-11-19
You are correct but most of them were destroyed. Interestingly some post conquest accounts were written in Spanish and the aztec language by the same authors
1 manbra 2018-11-19
African history and native American history have so little relevance to modern day America. America is a Judeo-Christian national made by Europeans.
1 youcanteatbullets 2018-11-19
In my case it was more like 40 hours for me but I think the point stands
1 etihWeporuEpeeK 2018-11-19
What indian history? A bunch of ooga boogas cannibalizing each other and eating dirt?
Or more modern indian history of alcoholism and meth use?
1 Alicesnakebae 2018-11-19
Is modern Indian history just a bad Burger town
1 Time_to_Drink 2018-11-19
But with a casino
1 EmeraldFlight 2018-11-19
guys he did it he said the edge thing
imma suck his dick
1 Zyond 2018-11-19
Is it?
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2018-11-19
hell no
the reason is simple; then history of agrarian tribes with no written languages or records doesn’t require a lot of teaching time
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-11-19
😴😴😴
1 -Steve_French- 2018-11-19
Here we see Ed, having nothing of worth to say, as usual, but still needing attention from internet forum.
🤮🤮🤮
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-11-19
lmao
BUSSY LMAO
1 -Steve_French- 2018-11-19
😴😴😴 maybe next time
1 PoopShowPass 2018-11-19
This post goes against his politics. He will typically white knight for BPT
1 -Steve_French- 2018-11-19
I like the saying that Ed is literally the most boring thing about /r/Drama
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2018-11-19
Calm down, newfag. BPT is almost as bad as r/funny.
1 PoopShowPass 2018-11-19
😴😴😴
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1 Gtyyler 2018-11-19
Which class let's you make a PowerPoint presentation for literally anything on your mind? I want to take that course despite graduating from grade school 12 years ago.
1 cmakk1012 2018-11-19
Imagine not going to school in the land of the glorious Protector of the Turkmens and rap star ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsNioEnxeNs ) Berdimuhamedov
1 RedGT2033 2018-11-19
The history of hamplanets is not interesting sorry sweety.
1 PoopShowPass 2018-11-19
Imagine basing an entire curriculum on slavery and the invention of peanut butter.
1 BeastTrinity 2018-11-19
Don't forget the Super Soaker ✋😤
1 Slaanesh_0 2018-11-19
They didnt even invent peanut butter, history of it goes back to the mayans and incans.
1 PoopShowPass 2018-11-19
Excuse me, I don't talk to racists.
1 Zyond 2018-11-19
They removed every single upvoted comment that didn't match the narrative and locked the thread. Lmao.
1 serial_crusher 2018-11-19
Create ghetto month to shove black history into.
Complain when black history is only taught during the month set aside for it.
Okey dokey.
1 jasos-2005 2018-11-19
wtf is the problem with this, though. That's pretty much all the relevence black people had. Like it's they're the only two topics unique to black people in american history. And I learned about slavery and stuff when it was relevant to american history, idk what school only talks about the cause of the civil war to fufill an obligation to black history month.
1 motherjoad 2018-11-19
I just remember learning about ww2 over and over and fucking over again. Finally in college they rolled out all the cool stuff.
1 ShitsureiKamisama 2018-11-19
Standard US history is a fucking joke. They skip the civil war and focus the entire curriculum on 150 years of baseball and consumerism. Imagine being envious at the white people nonsense that is taught to the retarded kids to dense to opt for an AP class.
1 TheMayorOfHounslow 2018-11-19
That's literally what America is though. So I guess the History classes as pretty accurate
1 DespisedByWomen 2018-11-19
Thanks for showing us you didnt go to school in the US, really makes it easy to ignore the rest of your comment
1 ShitsureiKamisama 2018-11-19
Thanks for showing me you're not a part of the Tennessee curriculum you fucking ass hat medoid. Really makes me reference the bell curve for inferior races.
1 DespisedByWomen 2018-11-19
Teachers never go off curriculum no sir
1 ShitsureiKamisama 2018-11-19
They unironically don't. They don't get enough respect or money to do anything but the bare minimum. That's why they're the most disdainful group in the American workforce. Those lazy bums couldn't be bothered copypasting my assignment into plagiarism software, much less go 10 years off curriculum to teach something nobody cares about.
1 DespisedByWomen 2018-11-19
Dont get your bussy in a bunch because you slept through the civil war part of your history course
1 ShitsureiKamisama 2018-11-19
I've had my spergout moments, and this probably isn't the worst of them (It's barely even a paragraph after all), but something about this encounter has left me frothing at the mouth audibly reacting to you, to which I say, you've won.
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1 alphetasauce 2018-11-19
I grew up in TN. I remember studying the civil war in high school. There are pictures of me from when I was 15 dressed in both rebel gray and Union blue uniforms. I had to do a project on the battle of Shiloh. We went and camped on the battlefield and scared ourselves shitless thinking we saw dead soldier's ghosts.
1 ShitsureiKamisama 2018-11-19
I went to Shiloh with my mother and the dogs earlier this year in the spring. I really enjoyed myself. Right around the time the battle happened too. Maybe you were in before they changed the curriculum? Maybe the class wasn’t us history?
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1 ShitsureiKamisama 2018-11-19
Why are you all such dumbasses. The original topic was about US History. Therefore, anything but Us History (as a class) is irrelevant. Why are you so unironically retarded
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-11-19
In grade 8 students take "United States History and Geography: Colonization of North America to Reconstruction". You're an idiot. Have a nice day.
1 ShitsureiKamisama 2018-11-19
But I specifically referenced High school grade 11 standard us history. Could cede you that point if I haven’t DIRECTLY LINKED WHAT I WAS TALKIG ABOUT!!, but I gave you the link. Don’t try to act like I was talking about what a 3rd grader learns in an attempt to strengthen your point. The link I gave you was to Standard high school US history. Again, moving goalposts. Just say “I’m a dumb fuck” and get on with your day please.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-11-19
You accuse other people of moving the goalposts while, in the same breath, claiming that you were referring to the 11th grade curriculum. Here is your original comment:
1 ShitsureiKamisama 2018-11-19
Then your very first example was wrong, since in the first post you even had the grace to cite, I said “Standard US history”.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-11-19
Hold up, you're retreating to the fact that it's called "United States History and Geography: Colonization of North America to Reconstruction" and not "Standard US History"? Well, the irony is that you are living, breathing proof that the U.S. public schools are shit.
1 ShitsureiKamisama 2018-11-19
JUST SHIT THE FUCKUP
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1 shallowm 2018-11-19
https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/education/standards/ss/std_ss_gr_8.pdf
1 Thatlookedlikeithurt 2018-11-19
Are you special needs? The course you linked to is specifically post civil war to present. You can’t point to a single class and claim they don’t teach the civil war.
1 ShitsureiKamisama 2018-11-19
I did. It’s called standard us history. I only cited standard us history. I’m not talking about anything else you fucking brainlet.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-11-19
United States History and Geography: Colonization of North America to Reconstruction
1 Wave_Entity 2018-11-19
https://youtu.be/OMTizJemHO8?t=34
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2018-11-19
but guys the history, achievements and accomplishments of black Africans pre-slavery could fill entire pamphlets
if only any of them invented a written language to record it with!
1 badukbingepurge 2018-11-19
You people keep posting the thread sorted by default or top, and I keep telling you people to sort by controversial, which is ribbed for her pleasure.
https://old.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleTwitter/comments/9yglcb/where_is_the_lie/?sort=controversial
My Chad sort.
vs.
https://old.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleTwitter/comments/9yglcb/where_is_the_lie/
Your lame horse puckey.
Have a nice rest of your day, and try not to fuck up something this simple next time.