The point is that if there's a line scale between "retard" and "faggot" you've somehow managed to not sit in between them but somehow engulf the whole thing.
That's another ad hominem. You are evidently unable to take the time to demonstrate your point probably, using multiple lines of careful argumentation. It seems as though I'm winning this, so you might want to stop so you don't make a fool of yourself.
I see what you're trying to pull, and I'm not going to let you. I don't play games ... now, if you're unable to explain what point you were going to make, I am done with you.
I do NOT have aspergers. You're lucky that I'm a nice person, because if I could definitely make you cry if I wanted to. But you still haven't made a point, and you just continue making dumb posts, so please stop before you embarrass yourself even further.
this isn't a game. when you make a serious accusation like that something is a hate sub, prepare to bring evidence. because it's innocent until proven guilty in the united states.
that's an ad hominem. i just asked you if you have a point, seems you don't.
It's demonstrably not an ad hominem as I am not attempting to discredit your position by attacking your character—we aren't engaged in any form of argument whatsoever.
I was just mocking you for asking such an asinine question. The point of my comment was clearly to highlight the irony of DrSadana claiming LSC is not hatef subreddit when one of the highest upvoted comments was advocating for the murder of wealthy individuals.
It is an ad hominem, actually, but your inability to reason is beside the point. You weren't able to formulate a proper argument, so you created a strawman. But now that you've made a point, albeit not a good one, I can engage with you.
I reject your conclusion for two reasons. The first is simply that it is an appeal to authority; the second is that it is not hateful to want to violently overthrow the capitalists, as they are criminals.
It is an ad hominem, actually, but your inability to reason is beside the point.
What about it constitutes an ad hominem?
To reiterate: you made no claim or argument. I was merely taking the piss "for the lulz" (as Millennials would say).
You weren't able to formulate a proper argument, so you created a strawman. But now that you've made a point, albeit not a good one, I can engage with you.
How did I create a strawman? Do you consider directly presenting facts a strawman argument?
I reject your conclusion for two reasons. The first is simply that it is an appeal to authority; the second is that it is not hateful to want to violently overthrow the capitalists, as they are criminals.
Okay, well:
What authority am I appealing to? I am directly contrasting the alleged behavior of the community vs. their actual behavior. An appeal to authority would be saying "LSC is a hate subreddit and Jordan Peterson, a well-respected professor of psychology, agrees".
The sheer stupidity of this claim leads me to believe that you're a troll, however, your dedication leads me to believe that you're genuine. I am genuinely flabbergasted.
In what way is advocating violence against a group of people (whom you dehumanize by labelling them as "capitalists") not hateful?
In what way are their criminals? What specific laws have they broken? How does their purported criminality justify murdering them? And, following that line of reasoning, do you believe that it is acceptable to murder anyone who has a criminal record?
I think I'm done here.
Some parting wisdom: logical fallacies are not sexual assault—you can't just accuse someone and expect your word to be accepted without a doubt.
The fact that you slandered me in a facile attempt to shut me down.
How did I create a strawman?
Because your original post was a strawman argument, look it up.
What authority am I appealing to?
It seems like you want me to explain everything for you, but sorry I frankly don't have the time to teach you about logical fallacies.
"The point of my comment was clearly to highlight the irony of DrSadana claiming LSC is not hate subreddit when one of the highest upvoted comments was advocating for the murder of wealthy individuals."
That is a clear appeal to authority and, furthermore, completely disingenuous.
In what way are their criminals?
Every day they steal what the workers make and sell it back to them. They are destroying our planet as most greenhouse gas emissions are caused by a handful of multinational corporations. These are not good people!
The fact that you slandered me in a facile attempt to shut me down.
I would never dream of shutting you down; we love lolcows on /r/drama!
slan·der /ˈslandər/
verb
make false and damaging statements about (someone).
My comment was clear and concise, however, you replied asking me to literally outline my claim as you were not able to discern it. In response I mocked your poor reading comprehension. That is demonstrably not slander.
Furthermore, the fact that you wanted me to clarify my point so that you could "debate" it is pretty autistic.
You have poor reading comprehension and are on the spectrum. QED.
Because your original post was a strawman argument, look it up.
I am intimately familiar with logical fallacies: I am an atheist and a skeptic 😎.
Based on the definition of a "straw man" as per Merriam-Webster dictionary, my original post was clearly not a straw man:
a weak or imaginary opposition (such as an argument or adversary) set up only to be easily confuted
Do communists have a special set of debate rules in which directly quoting someone or presenting facts is considered a straw man?
It seems like you want me to explain everything for you, but sorry I frankly don't have the time to teach you about logical fallacies.
You spend 12+ hours a day on reddit arguing about communism—you are in excess of time kiddo.
I am attempting to use the Socratic Method to demonstrate your misunderstanding of logical fallacies.
That is a clear appeal to authority and, furthermore, completely disingenuous.
Again: how is it an appeal to authority or disingenuous?
I am directly comparing the claim made (this subreddit is not hateful) against the contrasting evidence (the subreddit frequently upvotes content that promotes violence to the front page).
Every day they steal what the workers make and sell it back to them.
This is called owning a business and in many--if not all--countries it is legal and encouraged. It is also irrelevant to the argument.
You seem to have innocently skipped over my question:
In what way is advocating violence against a group of people (whom you also dehumanize) not hateful?
They are destroying our planet as most greenhouse gas emissions are caused by a handful of multinational corporations. These are not good people!
So... would you say that you "hate" these bad people for destroying the planet? 🤔
You are not engaging with my arguments honestly, and in fact you continue to slander me by referring to me as autistic (which I am NOT).
The truth is that I am NOT, nor have I ever have been, autistic. That is simply ridiculous. It is a lie that is designed to discredit what I'm saying and it is simply NOT TRUE AT ALL.
Now that that is done, let me get to the facts.
It is a fact that the workers are excluded from ownership of the means-of-production and thus forced to sell their labour in order to purchase what they need to survive.
It is a fact that this is a state-of-affairs enforced by violence, and it is one that has worked to the detriment of the international working-class.
It is true that the bourgeoisie has been working towards their own violent suppression since capitalism first emerged, and it is true that they deserve no sympathy when the hammer finally comes down.
You think that you're smart, you think that you can out-smart me even ... but you can't. Your mind is too feeble and mine .... well, mine is unparalleled in its ability.
You have no idea who I am or what I do. I have walked through lands worse than the brimstone land of Christian reckoning. I have decimated punks like you all my life. And I will not be treated like this.
As if physical strength is at all important when you can just use your intelligence to beat your opponents instead. seriously punk this is so, so sad for you. you're trying desperately to fit in but you never will, you have no friends and everyone calls you autistic and makes fun of you in school. fucking dumbass
Wow, you think that you sound cool by being facetious. You don't and you're embarrassing yourself. You must be new to the internet ... we don't take shit here.
Can't believe the moderaators tolerate this. This is hate speech right here. This is a hate subreddit. I do not consent to you harassing me. You are breaking the law by doing so. So I suggest that you STOP!
killing bezos doesn't wont automatically distribute his wealth to the common folk, it'll just go to whoever his lawyers willed it to
And even if you manage do topple the current power structure (you cant) none of you have the skill or intelligence to run a company let alone the government.
Having a 35k per year income puts you in the global top 1%. I say we take the possessions and net worth of all LSC users and distribute it to the global poor.
Your post was removed because it contained an ableist term. You should receive a message from the automoderator telling you the exact term the post was removed for.
Lol. Welcome to the club. I was banned ages ago for saying North Korea probably wasn't the paradise they make it out to be. Was also called a "reactionary pig" by the mods on my way out... but it's not a hate subreddit...
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-11-25
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1 soulshots 2018-11-25
Meanwhile said comments are the second-most upvoted post in the thread. 🤔🤔🤔
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
do you have a point?
1 soulshots 2018-11-25
Typical for a commie to have poor reading comprehension. 😂
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
that's an ad hominem. i just asked you if you have a point, seems you don't.
1 yourdeadwife 2018-11-25
The point is that if there's a line scale between "retard" and "faggot" you've somehow managed to not sit in between them but somehow engulf the whole thing.
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
That's another ad hominem. You are evidently unable to take the time to demonstrate your point probably, using multiple lines of careful argumentation. It seems as though I'm winning this, so you might want to stop so you don't make a fool of yourself.
1 yourdeadwife 2018-11-25
For such a genius you apparently don't read usernames. I'm not the guy you were arguing with you mong.
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
I see what you're trying to pull, and I'm not going to let you. I don't play games ... now, if you're unable to explain what point you were going to make, I am done with you.
1 yourdeadwife 2018-11-25
Oh, sorry if I would have known you had asperger's before I commented I would've been more nice. My bad.
1 soulshots 2018-11-25
...I-I think you're on to something.
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
I do NOT have aspergers. You're lucky that I'm a nice person, because if I could definitely make you cry if I wanted to. But you still haven't made a point, and you just continue making dumb posts, so please stop before you embarrass yourself even further.
1 uniqueguy263 2018-11-25
And how would you make me cry?
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
Not relevant.
1 LightUmbra 2018-11-25
I don't believe you.
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
actually
I DO NOT HAVE ASPERGERS
1 LightUmbra 2018-11-25
Ok chief. I totally believe you
1 yourdeadwife 2018-11-25
Snappy, this one!
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
Not going to engage with you as long as you slander me and post ad hominids. Good day to you, sir.
1 Jimbo_B_Beterson 2018-11-25
to be a good troll you have to know where to cut it off
1 bigTstyle 2018-11-25
Fuck if b8 10/10 man, if not I’m sorry.
Should be a new snappy quote tho
1 Thor1138 2018-11-25
r/Iamverybadass
1 MandirKahaBanega 2018-11-25
Pls make me cry hard daddy, make me cry higher than Sky Daddy did the kulaks.
1 lannister_stark 2018-11-25
Call me fascist daddy 😍😍😘😘
1 Mikeavelli 2018-11-25
https://i.imgur.com/Ecuqmd3.jpg
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
ahaha yeah! exactly!
this isn't a game. when you make a serious accusation like that something is a hate sub, prepare to bring evidence. because it's innocent until proven guilty in the united states.
1 Mikeavelli 2018-11-25
Yes, exactly, LSC has done nothing hateful. Other than the constant threats to murder people.
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
lol "people"
1 Mikeavelli 2018-11-25
Yes Jews are people you Nazi fuck.
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
that's fucking racist
1 MandirKahaBanega 2018-11-25
You might be a Commie but at least you aren't a gaymer. You get the bullet later.
1 soulshots 2018-11-25
It's demonstrably not an ad hominem as I am not attempting to discredit your position by attacking your character—we aren't engaged in any form of argument whatsoever.
I was just mocking you for asking such an asinine question. The point of my comment was clearly to highlight the irony of DrSadana claiming LSC is not hatef subreddit when one of the highest upvoted comments was advocating for the murder of wealthy individuals.
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
It is an ad hominem, actually, but your inability to reason is beside the point. You weren't able to formulate a proper argument, so you created a strawman. But now that you've made a point, albeit not a good one, I can engage with you.
I reject your conclusion for two reasons. The first is simply that it is an appeal to authority; the second is that it is not hateful to want to violently overthrow the capitalists, as they are criminals.
I think I'm done here.
1 soulshots 2018-11-25
What about it constitutes an ad hominem?
To reiterate: you made no claim or argument. I was merely taking the piss "for the lulz" (as Millennials would say).
How did I create a strawman? Do you consider directly presenting facts a strawman argument?
Okay, well:
What authority am I appealing to? I am directly contrasting the alleged behavior of the community vs. their actual behavior. An appeal to authority would be saying "LSC is a hate subreddit and Jordan Peterson, a well-respected professor of psychology, agrees".
The sheer stupidity of this claim leads me to believe that you're a troll, however, your dedication leads me to believe that you're genuine. I am genuinely flabbergasted.
In what way is advocating violence against a group of people (whom you dehumanize by labelling them as "capitalists") not hateful?
In what way are their criminals? What specific laws have they broken? How does their purported criminality justify murdering them? And, following that line of reasoning, do you believe that it is acceptable to murder anyone who has a criminal record?
Some parting wisdom: logical fallacies are not sexual assault—you can't just accuse someone and expect your word to be accepted without a doubt.
1 LongPostBot 2018-11-25
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1 soulshots 2018-11-25
Joke's on you: I don't know that that is.
1 Mikeavelli 2018-11-25
Jackal Porn. It's calling you a furry.
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1 soulshots 2018-11-25
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1 the_marx 2018-11-25
The fact that you slandered me in a facile attempt to shut me down.
Because your original post was a strawman argument, look it up.
It seems like you want me to explain everything for you, but sorry I frankly don't have the time to teach you about logical fallacies.
"The point of my comment was clearly to highlight the irony of DrSadana claiming LSC is not hate subreddit when one of the highest upvoted comments was advocating for the murder of wealthy individuals."
That is a clear appeal to authority and, furthermore, completely disingenuous.
Every day they steal what the workers make and sell it back to them. They are destroying our planet as most greenhouse gas emissions are caused by a handful of multinational corporations. These are not good people!
1 Heydammit 2018-11-25
That wasn't ad hominem, they weren't detracting from your argument, they said that you didn't understand what they wrote.
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
I THINK THAT I KNOW WHAT AN AD HOMINID IS
1 Heydammit 2018-11-25
DON'T CALL ME AN HOMINID!
1 Awayfone 2018-11-25
Employee agree to work for their employer for a certain wage. Not theft
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
No it is theft because the workers have to work to eat so it is basically like you work or you starve so that is theft.
1 soulshots 2018-11-25
I would never dream of shutting you down; we love lolcows on /r/drama!
My comment was clear and concise, however, you replied asking me to literally outline my claim as you were not able to discern it. In response I mocked your poor reading comprehension. That is demonstrably not slander.
Furthermore, the fact that you wanted me to clarify my point so that you could "debate" it is pretty autistic.
You have poor reading comprehension and are on the spectrum. QED.
I am intimately familiar with logical fallacies: I am an atheist and a skeptic 😎.
Based on the definition of a "straw man" as per Merriam-Webster dictionary, my original post was clearly not a straw man:
Do communists have a special set of debate rules in which directly quoting someone or presenting facts is considered a straw man?
You spend 12+ hours a day on reddit arguing about communism—you are in excess of time kiddo.
I am attempting to use the Socratic Method to demonstrate your misunderstanding of logical fallacies.
Again: how is it an appeal to authority or disingenuous?
I am directly comparing the claim made (this subreddit is not hateful) against the contrasting evidence (the subreddit frequently upvotes content that promotes violence to the front page).
This is called owning a business and in many--if not all--countries it is legal and encouraged. It is also irrelevant to the argument.
You seem to have innocently skipped over my question:
So... would you say that you "hate" these bad people for destroying the planet? 🤔
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1 soulshots 2018-11-25
It's true 😢.
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
You are not engaging with my arguments honestly, and in fact you continue to slander me by referring to me as autistic (which I am NOT).
The truth is that I am NOT, nor have I ever have been, autistic. That is simply ridiculous. It is a lie that is designed to discredit what I'm saying and it is simply NOT TRUE AT ALL.
Now that that is done, let me get to the facts.
It is a fact that the workers are excluded from ownership of the means-of-production and thus forced to sell their labour in order to purchase what they need to survive.
It is a fact that this is a state-of-affairs enforced by violence, and it is one that has worked to the detriment of the international working-class.
It is true that the bourgeoisie has been working towards their own violent suppression since capitalism first emerged, and it is true that they deserve no sympathy when the hammer finally comes down.
You think that you're smart, you think that you can out-smart me even ... but you can't. Your mind is too feeble and mine .... well, mine is unparalleled in its ability.
You have no idea who I am or what I do. I have walked through lands worse than the brimstone land of Christian reckoning. I have decimated punks like you all my life. And I will not be treated like this.
1 LongPostBot 2018-11-25
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1 the_marx 2018-11-25
I AM NOT!
1 unarmed_black_male 2018-11-25
Oh, hi Marx.
1 uniqueguy263 2018-11-25
#deep bro
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
As if physical strength is at all important when you can just use your intelligence to beat your opponents instead. seriously punk this is so, so sad for you. you're trying desperately to fit in but you never will, you have no friends and everyone calls you autistic and makes fun of you in school. fucking dumbass
1 uniqueguy263 2018-11-25
No u. But entirely unironically. I know you're probably a MAGAtard LARPing as a commie, but whatever you are, you have really deep seated issues
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
Okay, I was being serious but now I realize that you are simply troll/hater who is trying to bring me down.
I hope you have a good day, sir.
1 redsmokee 2018-11-25
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1 trapochaphouse 2018-11-25
So long and thanks for all the pasta, chief.
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
Wow, you think that you sound cool by being facetious. You don't and you're embarrassing yourself. You must be new to the internet ... we don't take shit here.
1 trapochaphouse 2018-11-25
Ok, Chef Boyardee.
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
leave me alone
1 trapochaphouse 2018-11-25
Delete your account.
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
that's rude as fuck. i deserve to be heard as much as you do, so don't mess with me and LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE
1 trapochaphouse 2018-11-25
Lmao no you don't.
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
do you think about how your words can hurt people
1 trapochaphouse 2018-11-25
Nope. Besides commies aren't even really people.
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
Can't believe the moderaators tolerate this. This is hate speech right here. This is a hate subreddit. I do not consent to you harassing me. You are breaking the law by doing so. So I suggest that you STOP!
1 trapochaphouse 2018-11-25
I reported for you it for you so they can laugh at you too.
1 Awayfone 2018-11-25
second is that it is not hateful to want to violently overthrow the capitalists, as they are criminals.
Says white supreme about thugs. Glad you support them
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
Raciast
1 DespisedByWomen 2018-11-25
Didn't realize actual communists existed but here you retards are lmao
Hey buddy I gotta ask, in a communist society what do you think your job would be?
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
member of the vanguard. I would be granted an administrative role in the proletarian dictatorship.
1 MomImGay420 2018-11-25
killing the rich will get you absolutely nowhere
killing bezos doesn't wont automatically distribute his wealth to the common folk, it'll just go to whoever his lawyers willed it to
And even if you manage do topple the current power structure (you cant) none of you have the skill or intelligence to run a company let alone the government.
1 the_marx 2018-11-25
That is a clear ad hominy.
1 MomImGay420 2018-11-25
other than the "(you cant)" part it most certainly is not
I think your'e just upset that your larp wont come to fruition
1 trilateral1 2018-11-25
it's not ad homony if it's true
1 JustLions 2018-11-25
Fuuuuuuck you.
1 DrSadana 2018-11-25
I got banned for saying that.
I suppose it really is a hate sub.
1 Thor1138 2018-11-25
Another classic:
1 jaredschaffer27 2018-11-25
Having a 35k per year income puts you in the global top 1%. I say we take the possessions and net worth of all LSC users and distribute it to the global poor.
1 ironicshitpostr 2018-11-25
But they hate the global poor
1 jaredschaffer27 2018-11-25
Don't we all
1 AgentGotse 2018-11-25
>You're in idiot if you equate hatred of economic injustice with hatred of minorities
commie subs in a nutshell
1 Matues49 2018-11-25
Wagecucks on suicide watch
1 tHeSiD 2018-11-25
1 SuperElf 2018-11-25
but roleplaying as revolutionaries on a website is a job, it takes effort!
1 averagewhitebrah69 2018-11-25
they don’t let you post the word idiot because it’s an ableist term. what does that mean
1 Steve_Blackmom 2018-11-25
if you can't use ableist language then you can't address the profound mental retardation required to embrace far-left ideology
1 soulshots 2018-11-25
Exactly! Orwell foretold all; this is newspeak in action!
1 Xenepa 2018-11-25
They are idiots and feel bad when you point it out. So it's banned.
1 heavenlytoaster 2018-11-25
It means they're retarded
1 DirtyCentrist 2018-11-25
LEC totally not a hate sub.
1 soulshots 2018-11-25
https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/6u2u1p/rlatestagecapitalism_mod_stating_their_sub_is/dlpwbez/
1 Awayfone 2018-11-25
It is hilarious they auto remove "ableism" but have no problem with calls to violence
1 chumthescrubber 2018-11-25
maybe they know they'll never happen?
1 DrSadana 2018-11-25
Well, I just got banned for saying that LSC is not a hate subreddit. Guess I was wrong.
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1 Thor1138 2018-11-25
Lol. Welcome to the club. I was banned ages ago for saying North Korea probably wasn't the paradise they make it out to be. Was also called a "reactionary pig" by the mods on my way out... but it's not a hate subreddit...
1 joeflux 2018-11-25
I got banned for my comment there too, saying criticising threatened to kill people.
1 LiberalKiwi 2018-11-25
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