[Ongoing drama] A Chinese doctor made a HIV-immune baby, everyone is buttblasted
1 2018-11-26 by ksatriamelayu
First gene-edited babies claimed in China - The Mainichi
HONG KONG (AP) -- A Chinese researcher claims that he helped make the world's first genetically edited babies -- twin girls whose DNA he said he altered with a powerful new tool capable of rewriting the very blueprint of life.
The researcher, He Jiankui of Shenzhen, said he altered embryos for seven couples during fertility treatments, with one pregnancy resulting thus far. He said his goal was not to cure or prevent an inherited disease, but to try to bestow a trait that few people naturally have -- an ability to resist possible future infection with HIV, the AIDS virus.
He said he chose to try embryo gene editing for HIV because these infections are a big problem in China. He sought to disable a gene called CCR5 that forms a protein doorway that allows HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, to enter a cell.
HIV Resistant Mutation | Viruses101 | Learn Science at Scitable
A genetic mutation known as CCR5-delta 32 is responsible for the two types of HIV resistance that exist. CCR5-delta 32 hampers HIV's ability to infiltrate immune cells. The mutation causes the CCR5 co-receptor on the outside of cells to develop smaller than usual and no longer sit outside of the cell. CCR5 co-receptor is like door that allows HIV entrance into the cell. The CCR5-delta 32 mutation in a sense locks "the door" which prevents HIV from entering into the cell. 1% of people descended from Northern Europeans, particularly Swedes, are immune to HIV infection. These lucky people are homozygous carriers of the mutated gene - meaning that they inherited a copy from both of their parents. Another 10 -15% (the number has even suggested to be 18%) of people with European heritage inherited one copy of the gene. Just one copy of the mutation does not prevent against infection. It does however reduce carrier's chances of infection and delays the progress of AIDS. Since the CCR5-delta 32 is tied primarily to the Eurasia region, the mutation has not been found in Africans, East Asians, or Amerindians.
Yes, this mean that Chinese have successfully appropriated a mayo mutation.
For the drama:
https://news.sina.cn/gn/2018-11-26/detail-ihmutuec3825023.d.html?from=wap
122 Chinese scientist from multiple countries issued a joint statement, condemning this experiment: Singapore to Standford to Texas South West to Wayne state to NIH to Germany
Might be premature, but fuck it. Let's congratulate China for making mayos obsolete!
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1 WombTattoo 2018-11-26
Mommy I'm scared
1 DerekSavageCoolCuck 2018-11-26
Varg?
1 SkipperPauline 2018-11-26
He opened the door and asked if I wanted to come in, I mean, who does that? so I killed him - Varg on the band breaking up.
1 ztoundas 2018-11-26
Fucking on point, shilly!
1 Wraith_GraveSpell 2018-11-26
Yeah but how do you match up to AIDS babies?
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1 ksatriamelayu 2018-11-26
Update:
People's Daily Newspaper had retracted their article, and the Southern University of Science and Technology of China had disavowed the scientist.
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I guess this makes them ... natural-born illegal babies
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1 Sojir 2018-11-26
Was it retracted because it was false or because the general buttblasting? Don't wanna Google now, I'm pooping.
1 ksatriamelayu 2018-11-26
idk, the doctor is going to go to a gulag now in all likelihood.
But yeah, seems a pair of babies with edited genes got really born.
1 Sojir 2018-11-26
Noooooo fucking commies crushing my dream of ancap-eugenics
1 agenderphobe 2018-11-26
Or the party just took him out of the limelight and now he's engineering the next generation of child soldiers in secret.
1 youcanteatbullets 2018-11-26
Probably both.
1 modern_rabbit 2018-11-26
Because this is textbook victim-blaming. The responsibility should be on whoever fucks the baby.
1 satanismyhomeboy 2018-11-26
I'm curious to see what a Chinese Übermensch looks like. Probably not very Chinese.
1 ksatriamelayu 2018-11-26
if current trend holds, (s)he/xer will look Swedish, act swedish, and cuck in swedish as well.
1 zergling_Lester 2018-11-26
Cursed image.
1 2DDefenseForce 2018-11-26
I don't understand why everyone is mad.
1 nahnotreallytho 2018-11-26
because babies were genetically altered with CRISPR
this is, of course, a very dangerous trend in the sense that genetic alterations can just as well be devastating as they can be beneficial
1 Chicup 2018-11-26
Its going to happen, so we might as well embrace it. Khan will be born.
1 cmakk1012 2018-11-26
Ew, space capeshit? I am now firmly against human genetic modification
1 Chicup 2018-11-26
You are 130 years too early. That's when the war between the genetic master race vrs normies begins.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-11-26
Spoiler alert: the normies won.
1 Chicup 2018-11-26
Thats what the secret master race wants you to think.
1 ksatriamelayu 2018-11-26
this doctor spoiled the story, China wants its new generation of Chinamen to be able to colonise post-apocalyptic AIDS-filled Subsaharan Africa without any trouble in 2040 or so
1 butwhydoesreddit 2018-11-26
muh vague religious objections
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-11-26
Because this could manifest as a new genetic disease if we fuck it up, one that might not become apparent until a decade or more into someone's life.
1 2DDefenseForce 2018-11-26
Yeah, those things are all true, but thats where we are now. Third world countries can manufacture nerve gases, we dont limit our own chemistry industry because bad people can do scary things with it.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-11-26
Sure, but we don't jump in head-first, either. China can't even keep its baby formula untainted, let alone it's gene pool.
1 2DDefenseForce 2018-11-26
If we don't, someone else will. I realise its a sensitive subject what with it involving babies and such, but genetic engineering is literally here, it is literally now, and the only way to git gud at it os to do it.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-11-26
It's a sensitive subject because we can fuck up entire human populations without knowing it. Also, you don't seem to understand that that "doing it" properly does not mean complete abstinence. It means jurisprudence.
If anything, the Chinese government will be more likely to clamp down on this, considering they actually have more experience with human population manipulation than the U.S. does.
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1 ZPayne52 2018-11-26
Genetic Engineering will be the death of humans. With the rise of AI it will lead to an inevitable transfer of gene selection to AI, and then the AI will engineer essentially "brainless worker-bee human slaves". This is the ultimate outcome of genetic engineering in humans. It will be the next phenotypic revolution. We need to form a global pact against it now and go to war with any nation who breaks the pact or refuses to join. Sounds crazy but it's that serious.
1 GayLordMcMuffins 2018-11-26
Hey buddy, mind sharing some of that whatever left you smoked?
1 ZPayne52 2018-11-26
Just some Ph. D. In neuroscience's opinion.
1 MajesticWrongdoer 2018-11-26
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-11-26
1 SaIvadora 2018-11-26
But all he would have to do is donate sperm.
1 MajesticWrongdoer 2018-11-26
I'm lmaoing at the thought
1 SaIvadora 2018-11-26
That took me a while to get. Well done!
1 MooseHeckler 2018-11-26
Don't forget possible speciation of the wealthy.
1 ksatriamelayu 2018-11-26
1 Metal_Charizard 2018-11-26
H.G. Wells is my daddy
1 MooseHeckler 2018-11-26
The implications are far more frightening.
1 agenderphobe 2018-11-26
How is that different from just letting retards breed
1 onenight1234 2018-11-26
Like a Chinese guy could get laid in America anyway
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-11-26
If he has fuerdai "fuck you" money than he very likely would get laid.
1 ksatriamelayu 2018-11-26
or he can just rape around like what the JD CEO did https://www.scmp.com/tech/article/2174434/us-prosecutors-weigh-competing-accounts-deciding-whether-charge-jd-founder
1 Watermark03 2018-11-26
There's like no way that would've eventually backfire
1 Chase-07 2018-11-26
Maybe those just follow others’ view and too lazy to think
1 Tagesausbruch 2018-11-26
It's probably a fraud anyway.
1 old_grumpy_grandpa 2018-11-26
Experimenting on humans is not too popular, the tech used is not safe either, and being China the claims are probably exxagerated.
1 shitpersonality 2018-11-26
They targeted gamers.
1 bunkerman11 2018-11-26
People are scared of new things.
People are going to badly fuck up genetic engineering of people at some point.
1 mtg_liebestod 2018-11-26
Yep. Medical innovation is a good thing. Fuck the luddites.
1 ineedmorealts 2018-11-26
TL:DR human experimentation is bad.
1 MeagerMistake23 2018-11-26
Engineering HIV-immune Chinamen will come in extra handy as China moves forward with their plan to re-colonize Africa.
1 Akai_Hana 2018-11-26
I see nothing wrong with this.
1 polzavatel 2018-11-26
-10 minimum life rating
1 smackshack2 2018-11-26
Imperialism 2: Electric Boogooloo (No White Mans Burden Edition)
1 sevgee 2018-11-26
It's the Chinkcel's Burden now
1 MargarineIsEvil 2018-11-26
As a citizen of an African country I welcome our new yellow overlords
1 Campymovie99 2018-11-26
Japan got to do it 80 years ago, I think China believes its got its turn now.
1 jwil191 2018-11-26
You should be banned for making an electric boogooloo joke you fucking askreddit poster
1 donglegoblins 2018-11-26
YELLOWED?
1 Uttarmanav2 2018-11-26
RICED
1 Rice_22 2018-11-26
You called?
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2018-11-26
complete lack of medical ethics and utter disregard for human life if why the chinks will win
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-11-26
Either that or they turn their country into the genetic equivalent of the Dead Sea.
1 Biribisuto 2018-11-26
I mean sounds pretty close to what crackers were doing in WWII lmao !
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2018-11-26
japs put us both to shame but they got their asses kicked
now is the age of the
orcmongol1 agenderphobe 2018-11-26
and they would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you pesky americans
1 Biribisuto 2018-11-26
Oh true we just secretly hired a bunch of nazi scientists involved and pardoned them !
1 Snowayne2 2018-11-26
With the difference that the German mayo scientists wasted their complete disregard of ethics on esoteric bullshit that produced no useful results, whereas China is going to colonize all major science journals with their crispr experiments on apes and embryos.
1 seenten 2018-11-26
The US continued in to the Cold War too, but then Nixon got uppity
1 error404brain 2018-11-26
Medical ethics are constraints the genetic inferiors put upon to prevent science from wiping them out. I eagerly await china throwing them in the bargain bin of history where they belongs.
1 bunkerman11 2018-11-26
I like this so much better than dustbin of history.
1 Rice_22 2018-11-26
You can buy it for cheap.
1 Shark_life 2018-11-26
Now I know where Black Friday gets its name from.
1 Watermark03 2018-11-26
Jeez I wonder why humanity united and blasted you in the stone age when you last tried to kill everyone "genetically inferior"
1 OveyGoyem 2018-11-26
You can sperg out all you want but look at Germany's population, it's so healthy and pure. They are still raking in the benefits of killing everyone who would have passed on defects to future generations.
1 GayLordMcMuffins 2018-11-26
Ah, no wonder they all smell like chlorine clean pool.
1 error404brain 2018-11-26
Because they were targeting the wrong populations. What we need is not to kill the jews for we are genetically superior, but the poors, for if they were not genetically inferior they wouldn't be poor.
1 Mamalgam 2018-11-26
I will not stand for this erasure of my culture
1 King_Drumpf 2018-11-26
So when can we see an army of Super Chinese?
1 UnalignedRando 2018-11-26
I'll still wait until they prove those kids are actually HIV resistant.
1 ksatriamelayu 2018-11-26
sick bastard, I like you!
1 UnalignedRando 2018-11-26
I meant using cell cultures in a Petri dish. Just having a gene linked to resistance might not be enough.
Now if they want to test their HIV resistance the fun way, might as well film it.
1 niggerpenis 2018-11-26
MODS
1 UnalignedRando 2018-11-26
For science you perv. If you have access to medical research papers, you'll find a lot of videos and pictures that would be illegal outside of that context.
1 DerekSavageCoolCuck 2018-11-26
The Emperor has gained the "Sea King" trait.
1 CoolBeansBussyBoi 2018-11-26
A#wesome, more PrEP for me!!!
1 MG87 2018-11-26
I think that's the only commercial with gays and trannies that hasnt pissed off conservatives
1 Thatlookedlikeithurt 2018-11-26
Now when the kid comes of age he can get butt blasted as much as he wants and not have to worry about the consequences of his actions! YAY!
1 MajesticWrongdoer 2018-11-26
You can't get HIV if you already have it. Based Chinaman thinking ahead.
1 bunkerman11 2018-11-26
Fun fact. You actually can. Double AIDS is a real thing.
1 MajesticWrongdoer 2018-11-26
Damn, not even China can save us now.
1 Wraith_GraveSpell 2018-11-26
So how are they going to test that it worked? Are they going to send thr babies to Africa?
1 Momruepari 2018-11-26
fake and gay
maybe someday future generations will be able to enjoy HIV free bussy parties
1 I-hate-trump 2018-11-26
A Chinese child that can be trafficked into the SAn Fran gay scene...GREAT!
1 Pepperglue 2018-11-26
Yeah sure, I'm calling bluff on this one.
I thought it's only the case in the south, where a lot of foreign workers are located.
1 quantum_darkness 2018-11-26
The real shitstorm(and tons of popcorn for /r/Drama ) will begin when they'll start editing genes to prevent trans/homosexuality.
1 RyuunDragon 2018-11-26
I mean it sounds like you want that to happen
Which goes against r/drama's core tenets: The love of man ass (bussy)
1 JurijFedorov 2018-11-26
There are African countries where 25% of people have AIDS. This could save milions of lives every year. But watch both conservatives and left leaning people fight against this.
1 HumongousGentleman 2018-11-26
Even if this would work it wouldn't save anyone already infected. If your millions of lives every year comment is referring newer generations that won't be infected, well, new therapies and practices could lower that percentage outside of genetic immunity. It's also bad science as he's just sending them out in the wild, not exactly reproducible conditions.
1 JurijFedorov 2018-11-26
There are always other options. But nothing has worked so far.
1 Kiru-Kokujin23 2018-11-26
those aids keep the african population down which is a good thing
1 JurijFedorov 2018-11-26
More like kept the population up. Since Africa is getting rid of virus and sickness their birth rate has dropped.
1 AmandaRoy45 2018-11-26
1 JurijFedorov 2018-11-26
Keeping it hidden from the world! Great idea!
1 Jobs-Not-Mobs 2018-11-26
Soon Muslim oilcels will be buying designer aryan babies to rape. It's unethical!
1 Krombopulos-Snake 2018-11-26
Cheapest solution to the aids / hiv problem : Genociding the afflicted. It's horrific , it's edgy, but if there are no carriers - then it cannot be spread.
We can take all this science we're wasting on making people immune to it and spend the money on what people really want.
Creating humans with dragon dicks and rainbow fur.
1 HumongousGentleman 2018-11-26
Gross. Furries get the wall first though, but your numbers would be decimated after the aids purge so it doesn't matter in what order you go.
1 RyuunDragon 2018-11-26
You wish :3
1 ZPayne52 2018-11-26
Same thing applies to the juice as well.
1 myshl0ng 2018-11-26
Not gonna read it all. Do they have to harvest those genes out of irl mayos?
1 ksatriamelayu 2018-11-26
they just buy it by the tonnes from Somali dealers in Stockholm probably
1 NotchDidNothingWrong 2018-11-26
Lol doesn't matter how much you re-write genes robots will still win.
1 friend1y 2018-11-26
Ship those babies to South Africa where they can cure HIV+ tribesmen of their illness.
1 MacAndShits 2018-11-26
There's only one way to find out if the baby really is HIV-immune
1 shipiaozi 2018-11-26
This Chinese researcher is a failed scientist and business man eager to find VC capital, his technology is quite old and unlikely to make money. However, it is a great small step toward right direction, the reward is too high to ignored.
1 templesthataum 2018-11-26
“I’m an atheist” said the feminist
“So am I,” said the white male, “that’s why I believe in eugenics and wiping out inferior genes!”
1 tresser 2018-11-26
i'm less surprised that they gene edited a baby to be HIV resistant than i am they found out the baby was going to be a girl and they didn't drop the mother down the stairs.
1 ksatriamelayu 2018-11-26
this, Mao is disappointed at them from his nice crisp spot in hell
1 iodisedsalt 2018-11-26
That kid could fuck hookers all day and be fine
1 relationshipdownvote 2018-11-26
Pfhh ive never met an asian with aids. Make a black transgender gay drug addicted faggot aids-magnet immune and then ill be impressed China.
1 RyuunDragon 2018-11-26
There's gay asians though
Cute ones too :3
1 relationshipdownvote 2018-11-26
Yeah but they have delicious aids-free bussy
1 AmandaRoy45 2018-11-26
1 ZMowlcher 2018-11-26
This is fucking amazing like holy shit.
1 1029384756-mk2 2018-11-26
Okay, where is the drama?
This is just regular news.
1 ksatriamelayu 2018-11-26
The doctor revealed that he currently has more than 400 3PN human embryos being subjected to various gene editing experiments, ranging from infertility treatment to GOD only knows
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The number of stored embryos is unknown, He refused to say answer it.
1 pisserpatterwater 2018-11-26
The babies aren't HIV immune retard, only some of their cells bear the edits.
1 mukumukum12 2018-11-26
Wait until hapas find out Chinese doctors are literally modifying chinese babies to have north european genetic traits.