Lmao imagine being so humorless that not only do you not understand certain types of humor, but you actively seek and destroy humor elsewhere that you don't understand. src
Yeah, they're not upset that he's Maori, it's that he's not dressed as Santa.
I get it actually - I have small kids, if I take them to a Christmas parade and there isn't a Santa Claus I guarantee they will start blubbering and asking me "Whyyyyyyyy?????" in between sobs.
if i went to nz and went hey lets see some guys doing the haka i dont want to see a white guy doing it guys doing the tango instead regardless of skin colour lol
ftfy to be a more apt analogy to the current situation.
Why not fight him for it then? I think that unless someone is willing to defeat him in single combat, he can call himsellf santa. I just don't think 99.9% of the palefaces calling him out have any chance of besting the maorisanta
He’s an alright looking Father Christmas. Far better than the usual old jakes. At what age are you not allowed to sit on their knee for the naughty or nice question?
Isn’t the dude who Santa is based on a Greek saint? Anyway in NZ Christmas is really really secular, everyone celebrates it. the whole point is that we’ve made the holiday into our own thing that involves playing cricket on the beach getting pissed before 2 pm and eating the cake we invented, pavlova. Having a Maori Santa makes sense when you consider how little we care about the Christian origins of the holiday. sheep mayos at it again smh
I'm confused. New Zealand is one of the states in Australia right? So all new zealanders are australians really. I don't get why they act so high and mighty when they're basically a welfare state supported by australian tax dollars.
Christmas is not as christian as you think, but it is 100% white when you do trace it back past that thin layer of Christianity. Santa was originally based upon Odin, who was no brown fellow.
Only more recently, after Christianity supplanted the original pagan holidays and feasts around mid to late December. Originally santa was Odin, or some goat character (which is how Santa gets his name in my language: joulupukki = Christmas buck)
white people are the least fragile people on earth, everyone else cries because they have to work to get to our position when they think we just magically got it
in reality were more hardworking and just plain smarter than other races, i know its frustrating but you should keep trying anyway and maybe one day youll get to the point a white retard starts at LOL
yeah im pretty sure i know i have the best skin colour that makes people think "oh whos that handsome man" and not "aah holy shit its a black guy lets cross the street"
minorities insulting white people is like a kid talking shit to their parents, its more disappointment than anger lol
Imagine having a sucky life and such little of an understanding of history that you latch on to far-right populist talking points so you can feel like you're a part of a club, but in actuality you're nowhere close to being in the same cohort of people who originally did(and continue to) make America great
same cohort of people who originally did(and continue to) make America great
And who are these big brain? The slave owning founders of American democracy who disregarded even the common white man to vote? The ethnic distrusting progressives of the bullmoose party? Tactless democrats playing with Idpol? Neocon hebrews who want to retain Israeli hegemony?
Or is it an abstract immigrant based, co-opting of "give me your poor, give me your tired" land of opportunity idealists who are today reincarnated as vaguely brown people draped in american flags who buy used Japanese economy cars?
Not even two days ago you were gloating in a thread about a study that found that white liberals dumb themselves down for black people's "benefit," and that black people hate the political correctness game more than white people do. Which is it?
Pretty much every Chinese or Indian I’ve met has been smarter, harder-working, and less prone to bitching about his lot in life than the duplicitous wh*te.
On the other hand, if I'm telling a cultural lie to my children and part of the cultural lie is that Santa is a cracker, I'd be pissed I'd have to make up some other lie why Santa looks like a character from Moana.
Why does Santa even have to have a specific ethnicity? He's a fictional character based on a Mediterranean saint created so that kids can enjoy Christmas more. If black, Asian, etc. families want their kids to have a Santa of their ethnicity, and companies that want to take their money cater to that version of Santa, then who fucking cares? Pretty much every person who's shown up in the Bible, Jesus included, and many to most of the early saints have been inaccurately portrayed as whiteys so it's not like a precedent hasn't been set.
He doesn't really need to be, IMO. I feel like there is something that bothers most people when you "steal" their culture like that. I remember when some devientart troll or whatever made up a white guy as Black Panther a few months ago and there was a fucking meltdown about it. Some people go too far with the culture vulture shit and make it as though you can't even share and take inspiration from another culture. If you just take the American version of Santa Claus and just put a minority in the suit, it just seems lazy and pandering. But to create your own version inspired by the spirit of the character is great. Create a "Father Afro-Christmas" that intertwines the basic characteristics of Santa and the key elements of black/African culture. I'd love to see a over the top Japanese super buff anime Santa or some shit. Even the Santa's all over Europe are significantly different from each other.
I feel like there is something that bothers most people when you "steal" their culture like that. I remember when some devientart troll or whatever made up a white guy as Black Panther a few months ago and there was a fucking meltdown about it.
The meltdown was a huge overreaction, but in general it seems to be that a lot of people who find pop culture representation really important to them take that kind of thing way too seriously. It's not really any different then men having meltdowns over women being cast in shitty cash-grabs like the Ghostbusters remake. I think that it's different for religious figures, though.
If you just take the American version of Santa Claus and just put a minority in the suit, it just seems lazy and pandering.
Why, if the intent is to appeal to religious families who are minorities? It's not like the inspiration of 'Santa Claus' was a non-med Euro to begin with, and everywhere that Santa is part of Christmas, Santa is represented in malls and commercials and shit as a person of the ethnicity that is dominant to that area. Santa is English in England and Dutch in the Netherlands; what's the problem if he's Korean in a Korean Christian community or black in a black community? He's not a historical figure- the point is that he's supposed to give gifts to Christian kids in Christian households across the world. If there's a black or Asian community that wants to make their kids happy by having Santa visit, what's the problem if he's not white-haired and blue-eyed? As you mentioned, representations of him already differ widely in Europe.
I don't disagree with having him represent the majority of people in
an area as much. I suppose you might run into issues when you have a mixed community, which is much more common around here, say 60white/15black/15latino/10other. Let's say you have a parade, what's the most appropriate way to handle it? Do you admit that white Santa is the default, or the most represented? Do you take turns year over year? Do you have 5+ different of the same basic Santa but with different ethnicities all in the same parade? Typing this out makes me kind of realize how retarded and trivial it really is, but I still like to argue. I'm not going to weep in the streets if we've got a black Santa, but let's say I've got the choice to takes kids to see white Santa or Mexican Sãntã at equidistant malls, I'm going to see white Santa. Unless the line's like an hour shorter at Mexican Santa, in which case, fuck those kids. I guess other races deserve the same thing. I still stand by my inspiration thing though. If I'm going to see Mexican Santa, I want some cool Mexican folklore shit, like sugar skulls or Santeria or vaquero influence. Really do it up.
Let's say you have a parade, what's the most appropriate way to handle it? Do you admit that white Santa is the default, or the most represented?
Depends on the community that Santa is in and how pissy the majority or minority population gets about having a Santa that doesn't represent them.
If I'm going to see Mexican Santa, I want some cool Mexican folklore shit, like sugar skulls or Santeria or vaquero influence. Really do it up.
What's wrong if Americans with Mexican heritage want to have a Santa who looks Hispanic? Isn't that an indication that they're trying to adapt to American culture? Why would they feel a need to replace Santa with influences from holidays that have nothing to do with Christmas? I agree that people who haven't been completely Americanized should be able to celebrate holidays from their ancestral culture and draw inspiration from them, but there's no reason why they should have to meld holidays that the culture of their heritage celebrate with ones that are part of their new culture in order to make them more ethnic or someshit.
Do you admit that white Santa is the default, or the most represented?
Yeah, most people who use Santa are white. But what's the issue with people in black Christian neighborhood celebrating with a black Santa, people in England celebrating with an English Santa, etc? I really don't understand the upset. This isn't some sacred pan-European ritual. Is Santa only supposed to be for white people? Should the Yuro countries that are beginning to celebrate American and Anglo "holidays" like Valentine's Day and Halloween in the wrong because they haven't injected random aspects from their completely unrelated holidays into them?
imagine being such a faggot that them saying 'there is no santa this is just a pgan costume' is actually being racist? this isnt christmas because hes holding a fucking bone staff
I mean, is it christmas when santa wears a suit that by a strange coincidence has the exact same color scheme as a coca cola bottle? Santa's fat ass has been plowed by corporate interests for more than a century; there is no fair maiden's honor to defend.
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1 SnapshillBot 2018-12-04
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1 BIknkbtKitNwniS 2018-12-04
Mayos made Jesus into a mayo and they are complaining about this?
1 ggmsg 2018-12-04
It be alright if the nigger actually dressed as Santa tho
1 Baconlightning 2018-12-04
I really don't see the issue with a Maori Santa in Maori's native Land, but this guy isn't dressed as a fucking Santa.
1 VidiotGamer 2018-12-04
Yeah, they're not upset that he's Maori, it's that he's not dressed as Santa.
I get it actually - I have small kids, if I take them to a Christmas parade and there isn't a Santa Claus I guarantee they will start blubbering and asking me "Whyyyyyyyy?????" in between sobs.
1 Red_of_Head 2018-12-04
tell ur kids they are fucking wimps
1 Inceltiers 2018-12-04
1 ArlenBilldozer 2018-12-04
I do not miss going to parades, especially when it's a 3 hour ordeal just to see one float.
1 cheers_grills 2018-12-04
It's good to prepare them that life is a dissapointement.
1 allendrio 2018-12-04
probably that, but then again facebook.
1 froibo 2018-12-04
You're welcome!
1 captainpriapism 2018-12-04
its the same as having pasty white dude in a parade for maori heritage or doing the haka or whatever tf
its dumb and ill conceived because progressives dont know anything
1 ComedicSans 2018-12-04
Lol stfu, it's perfectly fine to have a white dude doing the haka. You don't have a fucking clue.
1 captainpriapism 2018-12-04
if i went to nz and went hey lets see some guys doing the haka i dont want to see a white guy doing it lol
im not talking about appropriation or any of that dumb shit im talking about authenticity for the sake of tradition where it applies
1 Space_Pirate_R 2018-12-04
ftfy to be a more apt analogy to the current situation.
1 Elite_AI 2018-12-04
Father Christmas is an ENGLISH invention. We should NOT be allowing the French, Germans, or by Allah AMERICAN TRAITORS to appropriate OUR HERITAGE
1 captainpriapism 2018-12-04
pretty sure its derived from europe pagan shit
1 Elite_AI 2018-12-04
It's a common myth among the eternally butthurt section of the pagan community. But, no, it's a late medieval English invention.
1 pisserpatterwater 2018-12-04
Are you unironically complaining about cultural appropriation of Maori heritage.
1 Inceltiers 2018-12-04
Ngl maori are actually human in comparison to abos but bending over for them when they have nothing to do with it is weird
1 binenut 2018-12-04
Let's be real. Every square foot of God's green surface earth is the white man's. Brownlets' native habitat is Yakub's inner earth.
1 boyoyoyoyong 2018-12-04
When do we see the first tranny santa
1 scatmunchies 2018-12-04
Imagine not having worked out who “Mrs” Claus is yet.
1 GandalftheChromatic 2018-12-04
Tran-ta Claus
1 GayLordMcMuffins 2018-12-04
Tran-Santa Claus
1 allendrio 2018-12-04
was on the office, good episode.
1 fraustnaut 2018-12-04
soon
1 Awayfone 2018-12-04
What retard would even wondering if a
Woman can play a mall Santa clsua
1 20171245 2018-12-04
As soon as bussys get big enough to store the worlds Christmas presents
1 POST_BUSSY 2018-12-04
I want tranny Santa to come down my chimney tonight 😘
1 Kiru-Kokujin23 2018-12-04
hes not even dressed as santa though
1 SuperObviousShill 2018-12-04
Why not fight him for it then? I think that unless someone is willing to defeat him in single combat, he can call himsellf santa. I just don't think 99.9% of the palefaces calling him out have any chance of besting the maorisanta
1 MorelloCherries 2018-12-04
He’s an alright looking Father Christmas. Far better than the usual old jakes. At what age are you not allowed to sit on their knee for the naughty or nice question?
1 reallynicebookcase 2018-12-04
Isn’t the dude who Santa is based on a Greek saint? Anyway in NZ Christmas is really really secular, everyone celebrates it. the whole point is that we’ve made the holiday into our own thing that involves playing cricket on the beach getting pissed before 2 pm and eating the cake we invented, pavlova. Having a Maori Santa makes sense when you consider how little we care about the Christian origins of the holiday. sheep mayos at it again smh
1 snallygaster 2018-12-04
isn't Pavlova an Australian invention?
1 fraustnaut 2018-12-04
u tryna get glassed cunt
1 SuperObviousShill 2018-12-04
I'm confused. New Zealand is one of the states in Australia right? So all new zealanders are australians really. I don't get why they act so high and mighty when they're basically a welfare state supported by australian tax dollars.
1 ComedicSans 2018-12-04
SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH.
Aussies stole it.
1 CaptainWeekend 2018-12-04
pavlova deez nuts lmao
1 freet0 2018-12-04
Would it kill him to dress as Santa tho?
1 BlacJeesus 2018-12-04
Santa Claus is originally Finnish iirc.
1 meatpuppet79 2018-12-04
Joulupukki.
1 hobocactus 2018-12-04
It was derived from dutch/germanic Sinterklaas, which in turn is based on greek saint Nicholas of Myra.
1 POST_BUSSY 2018-12-04
🤤
1 meatpuppet79 2018-12-04
Christmas is not as christian as you think, but it is 100% white when you do trace it back past that thin layer of Christianity. Santa was originally based upon Odin, who was no brown fellow.
1 Awayfone 2018-12-04
Santa was based on st. Nicholas of myra
1 meatpuppet79 2018-12-04
Only more recently, after Christianity supplanted the original pagan holidays and feasts around mid to late December. Originally santa was Odin, or some goat character (which is how Santa gets his name in my language: joulupukki = Christmas buck)
1 kjmiller7 2018-12-04
Lmao mayos are the most fragile people on Earth
1 captainpriapism 2018-12-04
lol as opposed to the guys who need "representation" in literally everything or they have a temper tantrum you mean
1 kjmiller7 2018-12-04
OUT
1 fraustnaut 2018-12-04
TFW aussies are still surprised when they see maori are integrated in society
1 captainpriapism 2018-12-04
duh have you seen them
1 fraustnaut 2018-12-04
i just said theyre integrated in society you fuckwit
1 captainpriapism 2018-12-04
whoa lets take it easy buddy
1 captainpriapism 2018-12-04
lol nah
white people are the least fragile people on earth, everyone else cries because they have to work to get to our position when they think we just magically got it
in reality were more hardworking and just plain smarter than other races, i know its frustrating but you should keep trying anyway and maybe one day youll get to the point a white retard starts at LOL
1 JumbledFun 2018-12-04
You're in hear crying over some fantasy character having the wrong skin color. Totally not fragile though
1 captainpriapism 2018-12-04
yeah im pretty sure i know i have the best skin colour that makes people think "oh whos that handsome man" and not "aah holy shit its a black guy lets cross the street"
minorities insulting white people is like a kid talking shit to their parents, its more disappointment than anger lol
1 jvnk 2018-12-04
Imagine believing this. Sad
1 pinzet 2018-12-04
Imagine believing that white people just somehow got handed dominance and wasn't because they had to git gud.
Imagine thinking that other people of any other background would not have mirrored imperialism if they were the one who had to git gud.
1 jvnk 2018-12-04
Imagine having a sucky life and such little of an understanding of history that you latch on to far-right populist talking points so you can feel like you're a part of a club, but in actuality you're nowhere close to being in the same cohort of people who originally did(and continue to) make America great
1 pinzet 2018-12-04
And who are these big brain? The slave owning founders of American democracy who disregarded even the common white man to vote? The ethnic distrusting progressives of the bullmoose party? Tactless democrats playing with Idpol? Neocon hebrews who want to retain Israeli hegemony?
Or is it an abstract immigrant based, co-opting of "give me your poor, give me your tired" land of opportunity idealists who are today reincarnated as vaguely brown people draped in american flags who buy used Japanese economy cars?
1 dootwthesickness_II 2018-12-04
Not even two days ago you were gloating in a thread about a study that found that white liberals dumb themselves down for black people's "benefit," and that black people hate the political correctness game more than white people do. Which is it?
1 captainpriapism 2018-12-04
why do you think it cant be both
nobody likes being condescended to but if youre not in an omg position of power you cant do shit about it
what are you gonna do if your boss explains something to you like youre retarded, chastise him? foh
they dont want to be called kanye so they put up with the baby talk
1 Imperial_Sardaukar 2018-12-04
Pretty much every Chinese or Indian I’ve met has been smarter, harder-working, and less prone to bitching about his lot in life than the duplicitous wh*te.
1 Kiru-Kokujin23 2018-12-04
thats usually because you dont see the chinese or indians living in poverty and only the rich successful ones
1 captainpriapism 2018-12-04
how do you deal with the smell issue though
1 ComedicSans 2018-12-04
C O P E
1 leva549 2018-12-04
You know it's mayos pushing that shit too right?
1 captainpriapism 2018-12-04
yeah dumb progressive ones that dont count and are probably jews anyway
1 Deagspert 2018-12-04
There it is.
Sent from my iPhone.
1 captainpriapism 2018-12-04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffCEr327W44
1 chrmanyaki 2018-12-04
Youre literally being triggered by his comment lol you and the upvotes prove his point
1 captainpriapism 2018-12-04
lol no everyone who talks about white fragility is triggered, white people are basically invincible
1 TrustyMerchant 2018-12-04
Try calling a black guy the no no word to witness actual fragility.
1 Chicup 2018-12-04
On the one hand its stupid.
On the other hand, if I'm telling a cultural lie to my children and part of the cultural lie is that Santa is a cracker, I'd be pissed I'd have to make up some other lie why Santa looks like a character from Moana.
1 jrolle 2018-12-04
This Maori "Santa" is actually fucking baller. It's way better than the token "diversity" Santa's we see here stateside.
1 snallygaster 2018-12-04
Why does Santa even have to have a specific ethnicity? He's a fictional character based on a Mediterranean saint created so that kids can enjoy Christmas more. If black, Asian, etc. families want their kids to have a Santa of their ethnicity, and companies that want to take their money cater to that version of Santa, then who fucking cares? Pretty much every person who's shown up in the Bible, Jesus included, and many to most of the early saints have been inaccurately portrayed as whiteys so it's not like a precedent hasn't been set.
1 jrolle 2018-12-04
He doesn't really need to be, IMO. I feel like there is something that bothers most people when you "steal" their culture like that. I remember when some devientart troll or whatever made up a white guy as Black Panther a few months ago and there was a fucking meltdown about it. Some people go too far with the culture vulture shit and make it as though you can't even share and take inspiration from another culture. If you just take the American version of Santa Claus and just put a minority in the suit, it just seems lazy and pandering. But to create your own version inspired by the spirit of the character is great. Create a "Father Afro-Christmas" that intertwines the basic characteristics of Santa and the key elements of black/African culture. I'd love to see a over the top Japanese super buff anime Santa or some shit. Even the Santa's all over Europe are significantly different from each other.
1 snallygaster 2018-12-04
The meltdown was a huge overreaction, but in general it seems to be that a lot of people who find pop culture representation really important to them take that kind of thing way too seriously. It's not really any different then men having meltdowns over women being cast in shitty cash-grabs like the Ghostbusters remake. I think that it's different for religious figures, though.
Why, if the intent is to appeal to religious families who are minorities? It's not like the inspiration of 'Santa Claus' was a non-med Euro to begin with, and everywhere that Santa is part of Christmas, Santa is represented in malls and commercials and shit as a person of the ethnicity that is dominant to that area. Santa is English in England and Dutch in the Netherlands; what's the problem if he's Korean in a Korean Christian community or black in a black community? He's not a historical figure- the point is that he's supposed to give gifts to Christian kids in Christian households across the world. If there's a black or Asian community that wants to make their kids happy by having Santa visit, what's the problem if he's not white-haired and blue-eyed? As you mentioned, representations of him already differ widely in Europe.
1 jrolle 2018-12-04
I don't disagree with having him represent the majority of people in an area as much. I suppose you might run into issues when you have a mixed community, which is much more common around here, say 60white/15black/15latino/10other. Let's say you have a parade, what's the most appropriate way to handle it? Do you admit that white Santa is the default, or the most represented? Do you take turns year over year? Do you have 5+ different of the same basic Santa but with different ethnicities all in the same parade? Typing this out makes me kind of realize how retarded and trivial it really is, but I still like to argue. I'm not going to weep in the streets if we've got a black Santa, but let's say I've got the choice to takes kids to see white Santa or Mexican Sãntã at equidistant malls, I'm going to see white Santa. Unless the line's like an hour shorter at Mexican Santa, in which case, fuck those kids. I guess other races deserve the same thing. I still stand by my inspiration thing though. If I'm going to see Mexican Santa, I want some cool Mexican folklore shit, like sugar skulls or Santeria or vaquero influence. Really do it up.
1 snallygaster 2018-12-04
Depends on the community that Santa is in and how pissy the majority or minority population gets about having a Santa that doesn't represent them.
What's wrong if Americans with Mexican heritage want to have a Santa who looks Hispanic? Isn't that an indication that they're trying to adapt to American culture? Why would they feel a need to replace Santa with influences from holidays that have nothing to do with Christmas? I agree that people who haven't been completely Americanized should be able to celebrate holidays from their ancestral culture and draw inspiration from them, but there's no reason why they should have to meld holidays that the culture of their heritage celebrate with ones that are part of their new culture in order to make them more ethnic or someshit.
Yeah, most people who use Santa are white. But what's the issue with people in black Christian neighborhood celebrating with a black Santa, people in England celebrating with an English Santa, etc? I really don't understand the upset. This isn't some sacred pan-European ritual. Is Santa only supposed to be for white people? Should the Yuro countries that are beginning to celebrate American and Anglo "holidays" like Valentine's Day and Halloween in the wrong because they haven't injected random aspects from their completely unrelated holidays into them?
1 Vurtizontal 2018-12-04
But that is Santa. The suit is part of the whole thing. Attendees don't give a shit about your PCness, they just wanna see Santa.
1 Pro_Extent 2018-12-04
Tbh if you're gonna change the skin colour, maybe at least keep the rest of the outfit the same?
Because changing every aspect of his appearance except the colour of his clothes and calling him santa is retarded.
It's retarded Snally.
1 snallygaster 2018-12-04
Why does it matter? There's a bunch of variation of Santa's outfit. It's not like he's an animu character that's drawn the same way every episode.
1 Pro_Extent 2018-12-04
There is absolutely not a bunch of variation on Santa's outfit.
1 leva549 2018-12-04
He doesn't have the hat or beard, he's not even trying lol.
1 BlacJeesus 2018-12-04
On the other hand, you have the sweaties who throw a fit over the Dutch "Black Pete" lol.
1 my_other_drama_alt 2018-12-04
imagine being such a faggot that them saying 'there is no santa this is just a pgan costume' is actually being racist? this isnt christmas because hes holding a fucking bone staff
1 SuperObviousShill 2018-12-04
I mean, is it christmas when santa wears a suit that by a strange coincidence has the exact same color scheme as a coca cola bottle? Santa's fat ass has been plowed by corporate interests for more than a century; there is no fair maiden's honor to defend.
1 my_other_drama_alt 2018-12-04
how dare you insult my sister you shithead
1 CPT_Clarnence 2018-12-04
Hakacide when?
1 mohkohnsepicgun 2018-12-04
I don't know, Maori Santa kind of looks metal af.
1 parduscat 2018-12-04
I get they were going for a more islander themed outfit, but he should really be dressed up as Santa Claus.