With how long this has dragged on I feel like it will be very anti-climatic. Like there will be lots of drama, but compared to how much drama there would have been if this was done months ago, there will be a lot less.
Are you kidding me? Evangelical politicians appeal to their base by saying that they're in full opposition of sinful leftist politicians. Almost nothing would change in regards to bipartisanship by virtue of Pence taking office alone.
If 18 Republican senators vote to impeach a Republican president, Pence isn't going get anything passed. He'd be a lame duck the minute he swore on the Koran.
I think most GOP senators fear the repercussions of removing a popular (among their base) president from office more than the prospect of going down as an accomplice. One thing gets them kicked out of office, the other mostly looks bad in the history books.
Maybe if the base turns on Trump there’ll be votes to convict, but it’s a huge stretch.
The 'supermajority' in the senate is only a 60% vote, so 100 senators means you need 60 votes. The Democrats still don't have it, but thats the actual number.
Generally I agree with you sentiment however - he's probably guilty of some campaign finance violations. Heck, I'd say almost certainly.
Still, the Justice Department has said previously that it believes that it's unconstitutional for them to prosecute a sitting President as it interferes with Congress's power of Impeachment, which of course leaves everything in Congress's hands to determine if campaign finance violations rise to the level of an impeachable offense.
I'm still pretty skeptical that he would actually get impeached in the first place, but overall I think there's the much larger issue of the increased radicalization of conservative America and the Republican party. The only thing impeaching daddy does is speed up the process that's already ongoing. Only a few decades ago they still had some sort of actual principles or beliefs aside from the white nationalism and homophobia, such as the Regan vs Bush debate where they both agreed that children of illegals should be educated because children shouldn't be deprived of rights or fair treatment, to now putting brown kids in cages. They've evolved into caricatures where the only thing they really believe in is burning their house down to own the libs, their entire ideology is based in contrarianism.
The more us shitskins breed and outnumber the good old white folks the more blue the country becomes, and the more radical they in turn will become. I'm hoping for some juicy violent outbursts, or militia related drama on their part, even attempts at armed insurrection. That will be some magnifique drama.
"Alternative facts", and treating reality like it's a buffet where you get to pick and choose your reality are only considered mainstream though for one large demographic now. Tumblrinas and literal extreme SJW's are not mainstream democrats.
The only thing that changed in regards to "brown kids in cages" was the medias reporting on it going from silence for eight years to dishonestly painting Trump as a racist for wanting the country to have borders. You've been duped.
President Pence will initiate the Handmaid’s Tale Protocol. Thot Patrol will go from a meme to an actual, cabinet-level agency. The Pence Amendment will repeal the 10 constitutional amendments that make up the Bill of Rights and replace them with the 10 Commandments. Dissent will be ruthlessly crushed.
When the country breaks apart and starts fighting each other in open warfare, I'll be in the middle selling arms to both sides and laughing on my money pile.
Most historians agree that Edward was suffocated not killed via red hot poker. This is because it was supposed to be a stealth kill and usinh a red hot poker is well the exact opposite of that.
A shit ton of mass shootings caused by angry MAGAtards and/or the assassination of a Democratic politician (or hell, one of the Republicans that voted for impeachment).
And how many Republicans have been attacked by Democrats? There was the mass shooting at a basketball game, the guy who got attacked in his garden by his Democrat neighbour. Maxine Waters calling for Republicans to be hounded at every time and place, Democrat lawyers calling for the Education Secretary to be raped......
How was the principle person behind selling American Uranium to Russia, how much did Russia and it's banks as well as former owners of Uranium One give to The Clinton Foundation. Why was Algeria taken off the list of states that sponsor terrorism and then sold the pre-cursors for chemical weapons just after a donation to the Foundation, why was she accepting so much money from foreign governments? Why has the money dried up since she lost the election? Why did Ambassador Stevens request additional security hundreds of times and Hillary blocked it, why did US Special Forces get ready to move to Benghazi but got stood down at least three times in the 24 hours before hand? Why did she lie about it saying it was because of a Youtube Video and then say "At this point what difference does it make?"
Ignoring this big wall of text for a second, treason isn’t punishable by death.
Getting to the wall of text:
Who was the principle person behind selling American Uranium to Russia, how much did Russia and it's banks as well as former owners of Uranium One give to The Clinton Foundation.
Why did Ambassador Stevens request additional security hundreds of times and Hillary blocked it, why did US Special Forces get ready to move to Benghazi but got stood down at least three times in the 24 hours before hand?
Human error most likely, a Republican led Select Committee exonerated her though. Do people like you need an 11th partisan trial led by the GOP to find nothing before they believe it?
How about the mentally ill kid who was kidnapped and tortured live on the internet because his attackers thought that he might have voted for Trump but with no evidence what so ever?
I looked up this incident and it appears that the perpetrators just hated white people in general, and targeted the victim because he was white.
I genuinely believe that if theres a conspiracy around the American presidency, it would be trump getting impeached after 2.1 years, and Pence (the guy Republicans seem to drool over) being president for an effective 9.9 years and having plenty of time to push any sort of agenda
No way dude, Pence is one of their own, an old fashioned Republican to the bone. If the senate somehow impeached Trump, theres no way theyd go for their meal ticket right after
Yes he is lol, most of them are. Cynical as it sounds, people like that arent subject to the same judgements and penalties as you or i
Bet you a fuckin kidney pence could be caught doing blow off a gay strippers ass, and still get in less trouble than a kid caught with weed in Arkansas
There is no possible way Pence has skeletons in his closet. No way. Someone who wants all gays hanged definitely has nothing in his past that would compromise him. He was vetted by the best people.
Pence will be president and the Dems will realize that they shot themselves in the foot. Instead of having a conservatard asshole who is a troll, they'll have a conservatard asshole who actually gets the chambers ready for gay people like all the white trash want.
I really wish more Americans understood their high school civics classes.
Summary:
The Justice Department has long held that it's unconstitutional for it to bring charges against a sitting President as that's a power reserved only for Congress.
The Supreme Court is likely to agree with this interpretation considering it held for both Nixon and Clinton.
There's a ridiculously high bar for Congress to get over in order to impeach the President, the least of which is the fact that you need a super majority in the Senate to convict. The Democrats only have nominally 49 votes (including 2 independents who caucus with them). They need 11 Republicans to come over to their side, which means they better have a damn good case.
The only thing anyone can currently see that Trump is probably guilty of is some campaign finance charges related to using campaign funds to pay off his hookers. That's not impeachable, and while it could be a criminal charge, the Justice Department can't charge him with it while he's President and despite what some crackpots say, Trump can't preemptively pardon himself. Hell, I'd be willing to bet that if he tried that, it'd be the thing that would trigger off an actual impeachment proceeding.
Most likely scenario, assuming they don't find him literally accepting bribes from Putin, is that Trump outlasts the special council until 2020, doesn't run again, gets dinged with some campaign finance violations and pays some fines.
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1 SAC-Lawn_Gnome 2018-12-17
With how long this has dragged on I feel like it will be very anti-climatic. Like there will be lots of drama, but compared to how much drama there would have been if this was done months ago, there will be a lot less.
1 smrt109 2018-12-17
I feel u. Im just excited for the drama that comes after its all said and done. The new “normal”
1 boomboomlaser 2018-12-17
What’s funny is this has been incredibly fast as far as federal investigations go. They’re usually like 4 years.
1 WarSanchez 2018-12-17
Pence becomes President, Dems act like that is a victory while they get ram rodded by the Cristian Right!
1 smrt109 2018-12-17
I feel like Pence will have to bend the knee more than the DON did out of his need to appear righteous
1 WarSanchez 2018-12-17
Can't impeach a man for getting his knob polished by a bunch of deacons. black man pointing at head.jpg
1 smrt109 2018-12-17
Russia?
1 nanonan 2018-12-17
I'm going to need to reset your programming.
1 smrt109 2018-12-17
Ok dady
1 BeanerShnitzel 2018-12-17
🇧🇾 Belarus.
1 snallygaster 2018-12-17
Are you kidding me? Evangelical politicians appeal to their base by saying that they're in full opposition of sinful leftist politicians. Almost nothing would change in regards to bipartisanship by virtue of Pence taking office alone.
1 FTFallen 2018-12-17
I'm convinced 90% of the REEsistance thinks that if Trump gets impeached that Bernie still has a chance or Hillary takes his place.
1 smrt109 2018-12-17
I thought this was possible early on, but at this point its a fever dream
1 chunk_o 2018-12-17
you’re retarded 🤠
1 smrt109 2018-12-17
No u
1 WarSanchez 2018-12-17
Here's how Bernie can still impeach this.
Match my beancoin donations!
1 alot_the_murdered 2018-12-17
There was a fun politics thread where this user thought Trump's presidency could be "annulled" and his Supreme Court picks would be undone.
1 MG87 2018-12-17
Yeah, that's not how it works
1 preserved_fish 2018-12-17
If 18 Republican senators vote to impeach a Republican president, Pence isn't going get anything passed. He'd be a lame duck the minute he swore on the Koran.
1 bareballzthebitch 2018-12-17
Impeached for what exactly?
1 smrt109 2018-12-17
Butina
1 smrt109 2018-12-17
ok what if mueller drops some mad crazy shit and it's vote yes or go down as an accomplice? because that's 100% possible, if unlikely
1 scatmunchies 2018-12-17
I think most GOP senators fear the repercussions of removing a popular (among their base) president from office more than the prospect of going down as an accomplice. One thing gets them kicked out of office, the other mostly looks bad in the history books.
Maybe if the base turns on Trump there’ll be votes to convict, but it’s a huge stretch.
1 Ardvarkeating101 2018-12-17
Maybe if, like, Daddy gets in a Twitter war with Russia and suddenly his social media turns against him.
1 smrt109 2018-12-17
Spooky cuz its possible
1 Tony49UK 2018-12-17
No it isn't.
1 smrt109 2018-12-17
Have you not seen how many of his followers are just bots?
1 Tony49UK 2018-12-17
Hillary has almost exactly the same as Trump and that's according to WaPo.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/08/14/the-never-ending-conspiracy-theory-about-bots-following-trump-on-twitter/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4ac0b75f4179
In addition my Twitter account doesn't have an avatar or a bio.
1 ineed750bucks 2018-12-17
Wait, why would his base turn on him over a twitter war with russis
1 Ardvarkeating101 2018-12-17
Daddy would no longer have such a massive social media machine greasing the wheels for him
1 BeanerShnitzel 2018-12-17
This ☝🏽
1 VidiotGamer 2018-12-17
The 'supermajority' in the senate is only a 60% vote, so 100 senators means you need 60 votes. The Democrats still don't have it, but thats the actual number.
Generally I agree with you sentiment however - he's probably guilty of some campaign finance violations. Heck, I'd say almost certainly.
Still, the Justice Department has said previously that it believes that it's unconstitutional for them to prosecute a sitting President as it interferes with Congress's power of Impeachment, which of course leaves everything in Congress's hands to determine if campaign finance violations rise to the level of an impeachable offense.
1 ztoundas 2018-12-17
House likely won't impeach unless they know the have support from enough senate repubs.
Flag waving gets dem voters all hot and bothered, tho
1 TwinTowerSkyDiving 2018-12-17
I'm still pretty skeptical that he would actually get impeached in the first place, but overall I think there's the much larger issue of the increased radicalization of conservative America and the Republican party. The only thing impeaching daddy does is speed up the process that's already ongoing. Only a few decades ago they still had some sort of actual principles or beliefs aside from the white nationalism and homophobia, such as the Regan vs Bush debate where they both agreed that children of illegals should be educated because children shouldn't be deprived of rights or fair treatment, to now putting brown kids in cages. They've evolved into caricatures where the only thing they really believe in is burning their house down to own the libs, their entire ideology is based in contrarianism.
The more us shitskins breed and outnumber the good old white folks the more blue the country becomes, and the more radical they in turn will become. I'm hoping for some juicy violent outbursts, or militia related drama on their part, even attempts at armed insurrection. That will be some magnifique drama.
1 dthrow2234 2018-12-17
You sound pretty pathetic tbh
1 TwinTowerSkyDiving 2018-12-17
will u approve of me if I #walkaway dad?
1 dthrow2234 2018-12-17
You don't know your father.
1 TwinTowerSkyDiving 2018-12-17
My family are immigrants and don't come from American slavery, I have a dad ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1 smrt109 2018-12-17
I feel u. It’s been hard as a sand niggro myself
1 SpiceAndEvNice 2018-12-17
You can’t honestly think only consevatards have “radicalized” (if you can even call it that)
1 TwinTowerSkyDiving 2018-12-17
"Alternative facts", and treating reality like it's a buffet where you get to pick and choose your reality are only considered mainstream though for one large demographic now. Tumblrinas and literal extreme SJW's are not mainstream democrats.
1 TheSativaShogun 2018-12-17
This guy probably thinks unironically that antifa is some sort of threat
1 Bufashoop 2018-12-17
I'm really scared of running over one tbh.
1 CherryKirsche 2018-12-17
Yeah
1 captainpriapism 2018-12-17
i also watch american news and refuse to form a real opinion
1 TwinTowerSkyDiving 2018-12-17
mommy blocked the daily stormer and breitbart so I have to make due and live without the truth man
1 captainpriapism 2018-12-17
lol what do you think thats the only alternative to american jewvision
1 LegalBreadfruit 2018-12-17
Lol, says the party that is still fighting the 2016 presidential election and entire platform is 'Fuck Trump.'
1 TwinTowerSkyDiving 2018-12-17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnedkVrgFF0
1 Tobans 2018-12-17
Hmmm. Words are acts now.
1 nanonan 2018-12-17
The only thing that changed in regards to "brown kids in cages" was the medias reporting on it going from silence for eight years to dishonestly painting Trump as a racist for wanting the country to have borders. You've been duped.
1 PM_ME_UR_SUSPICIONS 2018-12-17
Lmao. I believe you.
1 trilateral1 2018-12-17
lmao
1 Bufashoop 2018-12-17
This but more ironically but not completely unironically
1 Abu_Ivanka_alAmriki 2018-12-17
President Pence will initiate the Handmaid’s Tale Protocol. Thot Patrol will go from a meme to an actual, cabinet-level agency. The Pence Amendment will repeal the 10 constitutional amendments that make up the Bill of Rights and replace them with the 10 Commandments. Dissent will be ruthlessly crushed.
1 smrt109 2018-12-17
Oof
1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2018-12-17
Pizzashill for secretary
1 BeanerShnitzel 2018-12-17
I thought that was idfshill
1 Chapocel 2018-12-17
Same retardation, different name.
1 FTFallen 2018-12-17
Same dude.
1 agenderphobe 2018-12-17
Please lord. Let it be so.
1 Squire_Sebas_Senator 2018-12-17
WTF I love Mike Pence now
1 umar4812 2018-12-17
Gay shit
1 1029384756-mk2 2018-12-17
tfw when even the fucking daily stormer is less retarded than you
1 arkenverg714 2018-12-17
Ishallah brother.
1 tcpip4lyfe 2018-12-17
When the country breaks apart and starts fighting each other in open warfare, I'll be in the middle selling arms to both sides and laughing on my money pile.
1 anaxamandrus 2018-12-17
Ivanka will have to comfort him with her body. It's for the good of the country.
1 its_never_lupus 2018-12-17
Trump didn't come this far just to fail to something as tedious as impeachment.
1 Phantom_Engineer 2018-12-17
Probably have to carry him out in a straitjacket like one of those mad kings in ye olden times.
1 PM_ME_UR_SUSPICIONS 2018-12-17
This would be worth President Pence.
1 preserved_fish 2018-12-17
Or a hot poker in the ass like Eddie II.
1 RoutineKale 2018-12-17
Most historians agree that Edward was suffocated not killed via red hot poker. This is because it was supposed to be a stealth kill and usinh a red hot poker is well the exact opposite of that.
1 preserved_fish 2018-12-17
But the hot poker myth is fun, as is the twisted rule of Richard III.
1 Ghdust2 2018-12-17
A shit ton of mass shootings caused by angry MAGAtards and/or the assassination of a Democratic politician (or hell, one of the Republicans that voted for impeachment).
1 BeanerShnitzel 2018-12-17
I mean they already tried that with that one chick Tulsi whatever in Arizona, wouldn’t surprise me if it happened again 🤷🏿♀️
1 Tony49UK 2018-12-17
And how many Republicans have been attacked by Democrats? There was the mass shooting at a basketball game, the guy who got attacked in his garden by his Democrat neighbour. Maxine Waters calling for Republicans to be hounded at every time and place, Democrat lawyers calling for the Education Secretary to be raped......
1 Ghdust2 2018-12-17
And the Clinton’s, Soros,And CNN got bombs sent to their house.
And that guy that ran over Democratic protestors in Charlottesville.
She was saying to hold them responsible for their political actions.
The the hell did this happen?
1 Tony49UK 2018-12-17
https://i.imgur.com/ZnfYifk.jpg
1 Ghdust2 2018-12-17
And MAGAtards say Hillary Clinton should be hanged for “treason” all the time.
1 Tony49UK 2018-12-17
How was the principle person behind selling American Uranium to Russia, how much did Russia and it's banks as well as former owners of Uranium One give to The Clinton Foundation. Why was Algeria taken off the list of states that sponsor terrorism and then sold the pre-cursors for chemical weapons just after a donation to the Foundation, why was she accepting so much money from foreign governments? Why has the money dried up since she lost the election? Why did Ambassador Stevens request additional security hundreds of times and Hillary blocked it, why did US Special Forces get ready to move to Benghazi but got stood down at least three times in the 24 hours before hand? Why did she lie about it saying it was because of a Youtube Video and then say "At this point what difference does it make?"
1 Ghdust2 2018-12-17
Ignoring this big wall of text for a second, treason isn’t punishable by death.
Getting to the wall of text:
The whole “Uranium One” myth was debunked, on Fox fucking News: https://mobile.twitter.com/mmfa/status/930551622849118208
But if that isn’t enough for you, here it is debunked on politifact: https://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2016/sep/30/donald-trump/nuclear-claim-donald-trump-says-hillary-clinton-ga/
Human error most likely, a Republican led Select Committee exonerated her though. Do people like you need an 11th partisan trial led by the GOP to find nothing before they believe it?
1 istural 2018-12-17
Can you explain to me why selling uranium to Russia is a bad thing?
1 Ghdust2 2018-12-17
I looked up this incident and it appears that the perpetrators just hated white people in general, and targeted the victim because he was white.
74% of political violence is carried out by the right wing: https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/adl-report-says-us-deaths-linked-to-domestic-extremists-second-only-to-year-of
The left-wing is just simply not as violent as the right-wing.
1 Tony49UK 2018-12-17
Are you including AntiFa in that? and The Southern Law Poverty Centre has a tendency to cal left wing groups and Islamists as right wing.
1 Seattle_Bussy_Lmao 2018-12-17
He'll probably continue out his term. Just because a president is impeached doesn't mean they're removed from office.
1 Tony49UK 2018-12-17
Clinton got impeached but everybody forgets that.
1 RandolphCox 2018-12-17
if trump is impeached it's all part of the plan.
1 smrt109 2018-12-17
Butin’s plan or his plan?
1 RandolphCox 2018-12-17
haha more like poo-tin haha
1 BristledJohnnies 2018-12-17
Q predicted this
1 FieldMarshalHaig 2018-12-17
Pence will take over and with supreme court majority. It will be really over for LGBTOIAP+cels.
1 ReddneckwithaD 2018-12-17
I genuinely believe that if theres a conspiracy around the American presidency, it would be trump getting impeached after 2.1 years, and Pence (the guy Republicans seem to drool over) being president for an effective 9.9 years and having plenty of time to push any sort of agenda
1 smrt109 2018-12-17
Pence was probably a part of the collusion if there was any, so i feel like the assumption he will take the throne shouldnt be taken as an absolute
1 ReddneckwithaD 2018-12-17
No way dude, Pence is one of their own, an old fashioned Republican to the bone. If the senate somehow impeached Trump, theres no way theyd go for their meal ticket right after
1 smrt109 2018-12-17
He’s not absolutely above the law...
1 ReddneckwithaD 2018-12-17
Yes he is lol, most of them are. Cynical as it sounds, people like that arent subject to the same judgements and penalties as you or i
Bet you a fuckin kidney pence could be caught doing blow off a gay strippers ass, and still get in less trouble than a kid caught with weed in Arkansas
1 smrt109 2018-12-17
I mean yes it is possible he’ll get away with it, but focussing solely on that possibility will make it more likely to come true i think
1 shitpersonality 2018-12-17
There is no possible way Pence has skeletons in his closet. No way. Someone who wants all gays hanged definitely has nothing in his past that would compromise him. He was vetted by the best people.
1 MG87 2018-12-17
Pence wouldn't get re-elected
1 JustLions 2018-12-17
Pence enacts his grand vision of the country, divides it in half, and segregates the genders, as was foretold by Duckman.
1 omegaclap 2018-12-17
dramacoin's market cap grows larger than every other cryptocurrency combined
1 StingAuer 2018-12-17
rightoid suicides and vain attempts at staging another Waco or Ruby Ridge.
1 shitpersonality 2018-12-17
*murder suicides
1 kris_1313 2018-12-17
\r\The_mueller will rejoice for the while, but when they realize Hillary will not be president they will start campaigning for Pence impeachment
1 wisty 2018-12-17
Impeached or indicted?
1 MG87 2018-12-17
A few Trumptards will attempt a "revolution,". That would get put down hilariously fast
1 A663954512658449695 2018-12-17
Pence will be president and the Dems will realize that they shot themselves in the foot. Instead of having a conservatard asshole who is a troll, they'll have a conservatard asshole who actually gets the chambers ready for gay people like all the white trash want.
1 VidiotGamer 2018-12-17
I really wish more Americans understood their high school civics classes.
Summary:
The Justice Department has long held that it's unconstitutional for it to bring charges against a sitting President as that's a power reserved only for Congress.
The Supreme Court is likely to agree with this interpretation considering it held for both Nixon and Clinton.
There's a ridiculously high bar for Congress to get over in order to impeach the President, the least of which is the fact that you need a super majority in the Senate to convict. The Democrats only have nominally 49 votes (including 2 independents who caucus with them). They need 11 Republicans to come over to their side, which means they better have a damn good case.
The only thing anyone can currently see that Trump is probably guilty of is some campaign finance charges related to using campaign funds to pay off his hookers. That's not impeachable, and while it could be a criminal charge, the Justice Department can't charge him with it while he's President and despite what some crackpots say, Trump can't preemptively pardon himself. Hell, I'd be willing to bet that if he tried that, it'd be the thing that would trigger off an actual impeachment proceeding.
Most likely scenario, assuming they don't find him literally accepting bribes from Putin, is that Trump outlasts the special council until 2020, doesn't run again, gets dinged with some campaign finance violations and pays some fines.
1 LongPostBot 2018-12-17
Have you owned the libs yet?
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1 ztoundas 2018-12-17
I see your neck. You a man in a suit