being stoned/high doesn't make you a worse driver.
vast overgeneralizations that sobriety is inherently best because alcohol turns you into a piece are incredibly flimsy arguments yet our society keep shoving them down our throats because being an authoritarian nut job turn your into a mentally challenged piece of shit.
i doubt anyone going to read this anyways. reddit probably had my kind of thought heavily censored from the sheeple.
dawg. I'm stoned 24/7 and live a hallway normal life (part time job living w/ parents and sister+fiance because that's the reality of Silicon Valley)... that includes drives to the store and to pick up weed and the likes.
you're just an idiot. if i met you, you wouldn't even know i was stoned, i look/act normal you bumblefuck.
I hope it's both of your parents so you that you have to take care of them like they have to babysit your part time working basement dwelling self lmao.
and you talk like a stereotypical sheeple out of 2018 reality:
dismissing with references to cultural norms, depending on fallacious social bandwagons and/or common sense to make your point ... nothing anything i could meaningfully care about beyond responding to your post that it has nothing of value to add to building upon truth or meaning.
Driving while high is fucked up. The other day I was cruising down highway 80 and I saw some foid blazing up a J in the lane next to me. That shit pissed me off so much I rolled down my window, chugged my beer and threw the empty can at her
Shut the fuck up with the excuses. Driving while high isn't alright. It's not the end of the world, but the frequency with which weed smokers dismiss the hazard is ridiculous.
but the frequency with which weed smokers dismiss the hazard out of hand is ridiculous.
the way you people act like sobriety is king is out of hand religious and liable to get this species killed you fucking stupid worthing subconscious retard.
your sin is actually going to be end the world, if you don't wake the fuck up sooner than later derpfuck
I've been a habitual weed smoker for a decade. I also have a mortgage and a full time job. I know when to enjoy myself and when not to. That's a major part of being a responsible person.
You smoke weed. That does not afford you some kind of special perspective on the world. I had that mindset for a couple years in college before I realized how fucking stupid it was. Get over yourself.
i vape weed. not smoke it. combustion does not happen inside the heating chamber. because i care about what i put in my body, while you have accepted to not.
That does not afford you some kind of special perspective on the world
novel chemicals = different neurological state achievable. why do you you assume people that don't get exposed to those chemicals can achieve the same state?
because reasons? huh!? O.o
I had that mindset for a couple years in college before I realized how fucking stupid it was. Get over yourself.
or maybe you just accepted stupidity and are still too stupid to realize it. humans have done that more often than not. i refuse to accept stupidity, now justify yourself fuckwit:
Good for you. So do I. People aren't being literal when they say "smoke weed". They just don't care about splitting hairs.
novel chemicals = different neurological state achievable. why do you you assume people that don't get exposed to those chemicals can achieve the same state?
different != special
or maybe you just accepted stupidity and are still too stupid to realize it. humans have done that more often than not. i refuse to accept stupidity, now justify yourself fuckwit:
How many influential people have you heard of that spent their lives smoking weed with a part-time job while living at their parents' house? What do you do with the other part of your week aside from smoking weed? I bet it isn't catching up on Kantian ethics.
so why are you arguing being high is inherently an impairment?
look dude, this utterly retarded sobriety bias which assume:
non-sobriety <= sobriety
... is completley unjustified and as far as i'm concerned, probably going to killed this worthless species off to the completely irrationality of it.
How many influential people have you heard of that spent their lives smoking weed with a part-time job while living at their parents' house?
i don't really want to get on the topic of influential people, because as far as i'm concerned, many people who you think are 'influential' of today ... are almost categorically holding this species back than progressing them forward ...
and bleating sheeple like you are even worse because you can't figure it out enough to break past the spell that holds you back, thinking it is what is keeping you 'sane'.
so why are you arguing being high is inherently an impairment?
It's an impairment on one's reaction time, at least. It can be beneficial in other ways, but believing that any drug is without its downsides is just stupid.
non-sobriety <= sobriety
We use sobriety as a neutral point in general from which to judge general aptitude across all people. We have studies that demonstrate delayed reaction time in marijuana users while driving. You shouldn't need this shit spelled out to you.
i don't really want to get on the topic of influential people, because as far as i'm concerned, many people who you think are 'influential' of today ... are almost categorically holding this species back than progressing them forward ...
Way to dodge the question. Let me rephrase it. How many people from history that you admire spent their time like you do? You don't even have to respond to that one because regardless of what you shoot back with, you already know the real answer.
It's an impairment on one's reaction time, at least.
i play a boatload of video games high.
my impairment depends on how much a care, and why i'm driving, i really fucking care.
We use sobriety as a neutral point in general from which to judge general aptitude across all people.
we don't even know enough about the brain to objectively define what sober means.
you have massive epistemological holes in your assertions here you are not addressing.
We have studies that demonstrate delayed reaction time in marijuana users while driving. You shouldn't need this shit spelled out to you.
you're trying to reduce all of driving down to one ability: reaction to informationally incoherent (random) events.
see weed decreases your likelihood of being subjected to such events by making you a more cautious and defensive driver overall. i don't even care about driving the speed limit anymore, slower is fine for me.
but that kind of nonlinear complexity isn't comphrendable by a fucking retardedly oversimplifying unethical rule of law which relies on abstracted numbers to make hard, laughably 'objective', rulings ... so they just fucking ignore it like it doesn't exist.
How many people from history that you admire spent their time like you do?
i wouldn't even know because the people who control the spread of authoritative history have taken great care to erase as much of humanity's history of drug use as they can, because they didn't fit their fucking norms.
You don't even have to respond to that one because regardless of what you shoot back with, you already know the real answer.
dude, you argue like an idiot who relies on social cohesion to prove your point, which is a bandwagon fallacy, not actually meaningful hard epistemologically relevant statements.
i don't even care about driving the speed limit anymore, slower is fine for me.
Driving slower than the speed limit is a hazard to other drivers. Thank you for literally proving my point. I wouldn't expect anything less from someone whose defining character trait is vaping weed.
i don't even care about driving the speed limit anymore, slower is fine for me.
Driving slower than the speed limit is a hazard to other drivers. I suspected you would fire back with a response along this line. Thank you for proving my point. I wouldn't expect anything less from someone whose defining character trait is vaping weed.
i wouldn't even know because the people who control the spread of authoritative history have taken great care to erase as much of humanity's history of drug use as they can, because they didn't fit their fucking norms.
There is copious amounts of material out there about drug use throughout history. If you actually tried to research the subject matter, you might have realized this. Also, lol at the fact that you can't even name historical people that you find influential.
dude, you argue like an idiot who relies on social cohesion to prove your point, which is a bandwagon fallacy, not actually meaningful hard epistemologically relevant statements.
Driving slower than the speed limit is a hazard to other drivers.
i'm not taking a ticket for you bumblefucks.
and i drive exactly as fast as the car in front of me, with room to merge. if that is or is not slower than the speed limit i don't care. i just like the fact that i don't care, you derpfuck.
There is copious amounts of material out there about drug use throughout history.
yes, and history is heavily edited using omission all over the place. authoritarians love 'white lies' to push their versions of reality, because they are mostly subconscious idiots who don't understand that all the details actually matter.
Also, lol at the fact that you can't even name historical people that you find influential.
because i don't really care about listing influence people on a normal basis so i'm not pulling that out of long term memory just to prove a point for an idiot like you.
i care about using good ideas, not who said them. it's pretty important to detach from who says what because society makes a bunch of wrong moves about what is or isn't wrong, makes blanket assertions of sources, then uses those blanket wrong assertions to make origin fallacies about passing wrong information all the time. i don't care about those origin fallacies, i just care about what is or is not, not who said it.
do you notice how you're trying to use a facial expression to get your point across instead of some kind of coherent fact i don't already know ... except you never think like that because you just bully people with social bandwagons instead of enlightening them with truth.
because i don't really care about listing influence people on a normal basis so i'm not pulling that out of long term memory just to prove a point for an idiot like you.
I understand. I wouldn't want to strain you with the effort required to actually remember something. God only knows how much actually makes it into your long-term memory.
do you notice how you're trying to use a facial expression to get your point across instead of some kind of coherent fact i don't already know ... except you never think like that because you just bully people with social bandwagons instead of enlightening them with truth.
Oh, yeah, you really made good points with "epistemologically relevant statements" like telling me I "argue like an idiot".
I wouldn't want to strain you with the effort required to actually remember something.
yeah, cognition is strain.
i'm not wasting to prove points that don't have existential value. i'd rather spend it trying to convince what is and isn't existentially valuable ... because that's far more useful, in my opinion.
you really made good points with "epistemologically relevant statements" like telling me I "argue like an idiot".
yes, i call you an idiot. and i'm still calling you an idiot.
if you're trying to claim my arguments actually reduce to just calling you an idiot ... then you do not need to reply further, life needs to teach you more lessons before you can even coherently read my words, much less respond coherently, to them.
Please, for the love of actual rational discussion really think m about the words you are using and the arguments you are making before spouting off stuff. Holy hell.
no it's not. you literally don't know enough about the brain to objectively define what sober means. because we don't even know how the brain cognates. i realize scientists will come up with wordy explanations ... but none of it is grounded in a coherent theory that actually predicts anything accurately about how we cognate.
defining sobriety would require knowing enough about the brain to objectively define a state. which we don't actually know enough about the brain to do.
Sobriety is the condition of not having any measurable levels or effects from alcohol. Sobriety is also considered to be the natural state of a human being given at a birth. A person in a state of sobriety is considered sober. In a treatment setting, sobriety is the achieved goal of independence from consuming alcohol. As such, sustained abstinence is a prerequisite for sobriety. Early in abstinence, residual effects of alcohol consumption can preclude sobriety. These effects are labeled "PAWS," or "post acute withdrawal syndrome." Someone who abstains, but has a latent desire to resume use, is not considered truly sober. An abstainer may be subconsciously motivated to resume alcohol consumption, but for a variety of reasons, abstains (e.g. a medical or legal concern precluding use). Sobriety has more specific meanings within specific contexts, such as the culture of many substance use recovery programs, law enforcement, and some schools of psychology. In some cases, sobriety implies achieving "life balance."
here, someone else created a better explanation than i, which i copy pasted because who knows what is and isn't being edited in transit, that site doesn't have a secure certificate: hopefully reddit doesn't edit this, i dunno
Sobriety Bias Syndrome is the tendency for people to erroneously assume that, if there are two competing perceptions of reality, the one that was arrived at while sober (or the most sober) must necessarily be the correct one. This line of thinking has retarded our cultures and had a grossly retrograde effect on our spiritual awareness.
The logic behind this is usually given thus: psychoactive drugs disturb the normal thinking processes of the brain, and these normal processes have evolved to make us optimally adapted to the environment around us, therefore without the influence of psychoactive drugs we will remain in the undisturbed and pure state best suited for accurately perceiving the material world.
This state is known as sobriety, and the term has become a synonym for clear-headed and rational thinking.
It is a very strange belief if one examines it, because it’s not clear what sobriety actually is. Our everyday experience of reality is formed by the interactions of several dozen neurotransmitters in our brains – and that’s even if we don’t smoke, snort, swallow, insufflate or shelve anything.
Even in a state that most people would consider to be fully sober, the conscious experience is strongly influenced by these neurotransmitters. Dopamine, serotonin, oxytocin, GABA, adrenaline, and dozens of others exist, and our mood at any time is mostly a function of the complex interactions between these.
So a sudden spike or trough in any of them can cause a profoundly different mood or attitude – an experience as strong as any “drug” trip.
Not even by meditating can one arrive at a state in which one is not influenced by these neurotransmitters. Meditation might help to inhibit the release of some of these natural drugs (especially noradrenaline), but in doing so it will merely facilitate the release of others (especially serotonin).
In other words, meditation advocates can legitimately be accused of being mere 5-hydroxytryptamine junkies.
Because one is always under the influence of these neurotransmitters, no-one has any way of knowing what sobriety even really is. The usual assumption is that the average, everyday or most common experience must be the natural one and therefore the state in which one does the most rational thinking.
But no person, even if they have definitely not taken any external drugs into their body, has any way of knowing whether their natural neurotransmitter levels are correct.
Many, many people have near-permanently elevated levels of noradrenaline and adrenaline as a consequence of all the stresses of living in a city, which is an extremely unnatural environment and which does not give people in it much opportunity to relax and to find homeostasis of anxiety levels.
It’s very plausible that these elevated levels of what are essentially endogenous war drugs have pushed us into a collective stupor in which we no longer can make decisions with an intelligent long-term perspective.
It’s easy to believe that we are so full of adrenaline that we can only make decisions with immediate rewards in mind, because this would explain the obesity, violence, callousness and stupidity that characterises our societies.
So we’re already not making sober decisions, and so changing the drug laws to reflect that exogenous drugs are not categorically worse for a person than endogenous ones will not necessary lead to the breakdown of social order.
In fact it could be argued that some exogenous drugs – and cannabis is the obvious example – actually serve to reduce the levels of some harmful or stupefying neurotransmitters and therefore cause the smoker to become more rational (this is why Rastafarians call their smoke-ups reasoning sessions).
Sure, we don’t need surgeons taking a hit on the crack pipe before they operate, but a change in attitudes to exogenous drugs need not lead to change in attitudes to professional workplace conduct.
The truth is that people arrive at all kinds of enhanced insights that can be, and have been, used to improve the quality of human life as a consequence of a drug-induced altered state of consciousness.
After all, how else would they do it? Novel solutions demand novel thinking. Novel thinking is certainly not achieved by repetitively going over the same neural pathways for years and years on end.
Some thinkers, like Terence McKenna, even credit the use of psychoactive drugs for much of the initial impulse to civilise our species and for the first stirrings of spirituality in the human creature. It’s also an open secret that much of the creative technological thinking that made reading this website possible was sparked by LSD.
The Sobriety Bias Syndrome, a kind of Puritanical abuse of the bandwagon fallacy, makes all of these insights harder to achieve by binding people’s thinking to the most mundane, banal, plebian simplicities that can be devised.
The sobriety bias is usually promulgated by a decidedly mediocre sort of person, best characterised as being incredibly boring, and sufficiently so to have long since driven all interesting people out of their social circles.
you combine that a non-dualist like me who thinks about things like pesticide contamination affecting neurotransmitter levels, gut microbiology which we haven't even remotely started working out, etc, etc. and the socially assumed definition of 'sobriety' has become seemingly nothing but a bandwagon to me ...
one thing i've personally accepted about the human experiance, is that conscious beings can't even generate new conscious will, without sexually induced levels of oxytocin. such that if you don't have an active sex life with a soulmate, then i can safely ignore you as a sheeple who can't even generate opposition to apply against the will that drives me, much less actually apply said supposed opposition.
you stopped reading because reading further would have generated incoherencies in your understanding you can't tolerate, and subsequently you used an irrelevant conclusion fallacy to avoid dealing with that.
the fact you're not explaining your understanding, and simply claiming to have it, especially while claiming to have a rationally coherent basis for it .... leaves me skeptical.
how do you even determine what optimal adrenalin levels are? mass surveying and just assuming normal numbers are optimal?
Because having "permanent elevated adrenaline levels"would be impossible, your adrenal glands simply don't produce that much, unless you have an adrenal tumor
The maximum amount of epinephrine that your body can possibly take is 8 mgs(meaning Uma Thurman probably would have died in Pulp Fiction regardless)
The normal amount of epinephrine produced is about 100 picograms.
look dawg, if your final answer is an argument from authority fallacy, you're only further cementing me into the assumption that you're feeding me horseshit, and not a coherent understanding that i can meaningfully integrate into my worldview.
which doesn't mean a whole lot. like i'm not learning why those numbers are reasonable. or if they are actually representing conditions most humans are experiencing.
if that's all if took to convince you, someone 'smarter' than you, with some 'numbers' ... lol ...
is completley unjustified and as far as i'm concerned, probably going to killed this worthless species off due to the completely irrationality of it.
You keep saying this without actually explaining what the fuck it means, you think you are saying something profound but you're just spewing nonsense
and bleating sheeple like you are even worse because you can't figure it out enough to break past all the memes that holds you back, thinking they are what is keeping you 'sane'.
You keep saying this without actually explaining what the fuck it means, you think you are saying something profound but you're just spewing nonsense
i'm spewing my perspective.
which you have no right to just call nonsense without actually providing a reason to call it nonsense, but you don't even know how to cognitively identify what a reason is, much less provide it a coherent fashion.
No the logic is sound. People that make stupid comments are low brain idjits. You made a stupid, baseless comment about how not smoking weed is likely going to get us killed. Therefore you are a low brain idjit.
What does that have to do with anything? I don't give a fuck about god or whoever. You made a stupid fucking comment about sobriety being dangerous, you get labelled as an idiot.
Hell, you're so blitzed you can't even follow one comment back.
god is a just a personified description of world metas that emerge without our layer of reality and above, that we aren't going to be able to understand using science because we can't test all of reality, reduced, in a lab.
the only reason you don't give a fuck about god is because you have no care or love for the fate of these species.
Your description of god is a crack-pot, fart-sniffing delusion created by your own ego to justify its existence and elevate yourself above others.
I care for existence without needing some metaphysical description outside of our reality to force my hand.
This isn't even about science, you're just spouting bullshit spiritualism without any kind of actionable plan of how you want to fix things, only that there is something wrong. No shit, Captain Cannabis. The rest of us that give a fuck about things are trying to do something about it.
I care for existence without needing some metaphysical description outside of our reality to force my hand.
no, you really don't. you don't care about existence until you have an appreciation for god. which is just a metaphor for everything humanity needs to coherent self-organize. until you can claim that, you're a worthless idiot.
This isn't even about science, you're just spouting bullshit spiritualism without any kind of actionable plan of how you want to fix things, only that there is something wrong.
there's no actionable plan while the world is filled with retards such as yourself.
the only plan until then is sitting on the internet trying to make humanity less retarded.
The rest of us that give a fuck about things are trying to do something about it.
no. you aren't. every action a dumbass like you does, only makes things worse.
the way you people act like sobriety is king is out of hand religious, and liable to get this species killed you fucking stupid worthing subconscious retard.
lmao i'd love to hear whatever crackpot spiel you have about how "sobriety" is dooming humanity and not like, the organization of productive forces or something else normal
because sober people literally don't give enough of a fuck about surviving a species to care enough to ensure we survive.
all too busy caring about their fucking dumbass narcissistic lives to give a shit about the fact we've ourselves up for extinction with coherent plan for how to even acknowledge the problem to the masses, much less provide any sort of hope for dealing with it.
no, you don't fucking care that this species is going extinct you stupid moron.
which is why you're sitting here doing nothing but repeating a bandwagon instead doing something useful with that fucking food, air, and water god so graciously gave you, what a fucking dumbass that god was producing idiots like you ... like did something useful with your fucking pathetic waste of a life, and pass some kind of useful coherent information, which one could integrate into their understandings.
but you literally don't care about anything but bashing people over the head with irrational assertions because you're a fucking tool that deserves the extinction this species is getting.
youre one to be talking about "useful coherent information"
also the species probably isnt going extinct. yeah billions of people are going to die but there will be enough breeding couples left at the poles to carry on. this reality has nothing to do with "sobriety" though lol
yeah billions of people are going to die but there will be enough breeding couples left at the poles to carry on. this reality has nothing to do with "sobriety" though lol
no dude. this world has geological features that will ensure people at the poles are the first ones to be fucked, specifically massive methane reservoirs that no one on this planet has any fucking clue what to do about, especially since the ice cap preventing 1000s of gigatons of methane from venting into the air, is fucking melting at a rate we previously thought was egregiously improbable.
no. i admit that humans don't have the capability to currently understand all the physical systems they are dealing with, unlike what modern 'rationalists' so irrationally likes to claim.
the only reason you think you do, is because you can't distinguish bullshit hubris from coherently grounded fact.
honestly man, i have no intention of moving out of my parents regardless of how much money i make. because it would be a fucking waste of resources, i'd rather invest in this house as family property and make their lives better in the process.
but that's because i'm not an unhappy fuck like yourself, and get along with my family.
Being as much of an unproductive individual as you currently are is also wasting resources by the fact that you aren't producing as much as adult should be.
but that's because i'm not an unhappy fuck like yourself, and get along with my family.
if i get along with my family, why do i need to move out?
Being as much of an unproductive individual as you currently are is also wasting resources by the fact that you aren't producing as much as adult should be.
i'm just bored of responding to people who act like making money in the game of crapitalism actually means anything anymore.
i do things for existential meaning, not money.
which doesn't actually require anymore than sitting in my room, on the internet, thinking about some rather horrible incoherencies, in some rather widely made assumptions about fundamental discrete state logic processes ... and i'm just not going to go on because we're in way over your sheeplefied head already, and i'm going to 'pick my battles' with likes of roger penrose, not you.
if i get along with my family, why do i need to move out?
To relieve your family of the burden of supporting you.
i'm just bored of responding to people who act like making money in the game of crapitalism actually means anything anymore.
Yet you still respond.
i do things for existential meaning, not money.
which doesn't actually require anymore than sitting in my room, on the internet
See, like I said. Keep your standards low and you'll always be satisfied!
sheeplefied
I mean, none of the thoughts/opinions you've been presented with are uncommon, so it's hard to really get why you'd call other people sheep when you haven't presented any single unique thought.
and i'm going to 'pick my battles' with likes of roger penrose, not you.
Don't think he'd waste his time with some shut in stoner.
Because you're a moocher and your parents aren't going to support you all their lives
and i live on a planet full of moochers who mostly have convinced themselves they aren't because of a stupid number that the social bandwagon believes into like a goddamn religion, so i really don't feel that bad, honestly.
no i sit in an existentially precarious position where i have almost nothing but my intellect, and my soulmate's raw will, to guarantee anything about future.
i'm banking on that over all of what society says i should do, at this point. very few people have the balls to do anything remotely like that.
if that makes me feeling a little insecure, i think i'm allowed some leeway here ...
Why do you dislike your life so much that you have to take drugs constantly to be happy?
why do you dislike your life so much that you have to be sober constantly to be happy?
If someone came to you and told you that they were drunk 24/7, or on cocaine 24/7, would you think they were a normal, healthy individual?
honestly man. some people live off like 5 cups of coffee a day, and that ain't "sobriety" either, cause you're brain doesn't produce caffeine, but they ain't gotta deal with this kind of crap when they talk about their personal habit online.
just the sheeple who have all these arbitrary lines drawn up about what does or does not count as sobriety, when really it's just a load of crap you turd.
I'm not sober 24/7. I do drugs that I enjoy in moderate amounts because wanton hedonism does not lead to lasting happiness.
You cleverly dodged my question, by the way. You are an addict. You are going to respond to this with some very clever justification for why you aren't, but you are.
In fact, I'll go so far as to say I bet you can't even go a single day without smoking pot. You'll tell yourself "Psh, I totally know I could... but why bother?" and you'll keep smoking, day in and day out.
I just wish I knew why you find being sober such a miserable experience. I hope one day you'll try it out - even for a day! - and maybe you'll find it's not all that bad.
you call me an addict just means i have a habit you disagree with, and nothing more.
I seriously doubt you lack the strength or willpower.
the problem is, i'm not proving anything. and there's nothing to gain from not ingesting.
you telling me off with such retardedness does nothing to convince me there's anything to gain, but an increased appreciation for logical fallacy and prejudice, apparently ...
why can't i just live at home and just inherit the house of my parents? this would be a normal proposition in many parts of the world, just not america we're we are isolated by weird memes that loser idiots like you tell themselves to make up for how shit your life is. lol.
look dude, you're the one sitting on an internet forum calling a random person a degenerate for really no coherent reason other than brainless societal indoctrination that basically screams "hey look at my i'm a sheeple".
you're trying convince me that i'm wrong, for no particularly rational reason, just an ad hominem over being a "worthless faggot", in order to change the course of my life to do something i have no will to do.
you're trying to subvert my conscious will, with subconscious emotional indoctrination that you need in order to make your pathetic life coherent.
well, i'm not having any of it. my parents have said they are ok with it as long as i like, as i'm going take advantage of that instead of being forced into situations where i myself am getting taken advantage of, like paying for a ridiculously overpriced room in silicon valley, or moving away and losing my whole social network ...
god you fucking bleating capitalist sheeple are fucking morons.
and it sucks you never had parents that loved you.
look dude, i'm just writing the words down, such that once you realize you're a worthless fucking idiot doing nothing but killing this species with every breath you take, because you're so fucking retarded, you can reference them ...
because one can understand that there isn't going to be a rational explanation for someone who can't figure this out from personal experiance ...
because no one on the planet is close to coherently describing the neurology behind the kinds of ideas you can have, much less attribute particular states to a particular drug usage
on major problem with capitalists is they irrationally believe that making money = progressing this species when no god actually made that existential guarantee anywhere.
you don't even know what progressing this species looks like, because we've become so god damn stagnate, despite the technological proliferation that has happened.
because we aren't actually solving any human problems, that takes applying will in a collective direction, not just hoping collective will manfiests out of bunch of narcissistically worthless agents of greed doing not but working for themselves with money being the only significantly meaningful connecting factor, you psychopaths watch and blame homeless people to no fucking end.
fuck, this society is moronic i'm surprised we're not dead yet.
Money = tokens to make it worth sacrificing my time for a purpose. I don't care if it advances the species or not. It's time I won't get back. If those capable of doing the work to progress the species aren't compensated, why are they expected to sacrifice their time to advance the species? Why wouldn't they sit home and blaze up instead of wasting their lives for the benefit of the species?
Money = tokens to make it worth sacrificing my time for a purpose. I don't care if it advances the species or not. It's time I won't get back.
and this is exactly why this species is headed off the existential cliff to extinction, and not sustainable utopia.
If those capable of doing the work to progress the species aren't compensated, why are they expected to sacrifice their time to advance the species?
those capable of doing the subconsciously motivated work of capitalism ... where you don't think about what you're doing, and are just getting paid. are the very people building the system that going to cause this species to go extinct ...
so no, i'm not thanking you for anything. you sacrificed for no one but yourself, moron.
You're right. I sacrifice for myself. I am not sacrificing for you to stay home, play games, and blaze up. Given the option, I'd rather do that, except I don't have parents that could or would have supported a NEET indefinitely.
Given the option, I'd rather do that, except I don't have parents that could or would have supported a NEET indefinitely.
ironically, i've blazed up so much, i'd rather not being doing that.
but in the process i've realized that i can't progress any existentially meaningful goals within the current capitalist-dominated framework, and subsequently will continue blazing it up until i see a coherent opportunity to do so.
You're right. I sacrifice for myself.
so you're not sacrificing for the whole, which means you're a useless subconscious idiot doing nothing but advancing humanity to extinction, as it stands.
A capitalist framework doesn't stop those who are determined to advance humanity.
yes and no. if it's left in place, it will. but if you're including the fact that those determined to advance humanity can remove it from it's place, then i will admit, that it has a chance of not preventing us from going extinct.
your certainty in this matter belays your ignorance of the existential situation humanity finds itself in.
A considerable proportion of people who smoke pot have rather blasé attitudes towards driving while high, with surveys showing many users are convinced the drug doesn’t impair their ability to drive safely.
You can't even refute the science you complete idiot. Put the pipe down for a bit try thinkimg for yourself and not what you hear from stoner communities.
these aren't really debated facts in the medical field, it's just the government is loaded with sheeple that can't accept the realities of the situation.
there is absolutely no change on a personal level that could make a difference.
i sit on the internet and try to spread memes of understanding as best i can, because spreading truth is the only way to wake people up enough to care.
it's hard because you have to deal with loads of badly programming assholes like yourself that are spewing socially indoctrinated nonsense that has nothing to do with actually how i live my life.
Driving while high is fucked up. The other day I was cruising down highway 80 and I saw some foid blazing up a J in the lane next to me. That shit pissed me off so much I rolled down my window, chugged my beer and threw the empty can at her
dawg. i take drugs when not prescribed because fuck the government yo. its not a drug either, it's a plant. i don giva fuck if it funds drug cartels who behead people.
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1 goderator200 2018-12-17
being stoned/high doesn't make you a worse driver.
vast overgeneralizations that sobriety is inherently best because alcohol turns you into a piece are incredibly flimsy arguments yet our society keep shoving them down our throats because being an authoritarian nut job turn your into a mentally challenged piece of shit.
i doubt anyone going to read this anyways. reddit probably had my kind of thought heavily censored from the sheeple.
1 WarSanchez 2018-12-17
How about not drinking or toking up and putting OTHER people at risk because mommy doesn't let you blaze it under her roof.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
dawg. I'm stoned 24/7 and live a hallway normal life (part time job living w/ parents and sister+fiance because that's the reality of Silicon Valley)... that includes drives to the store and to pick up weed and the likes.
you're just an idiot. if i met you, you wouldn't even know i was stoned, i look/act normal you bumblefuck.
1 WarSanchez 2018-12-17
Yeah, I'm not eating that Sperghetti.
I hope you maim someone near and dear to you one day so you learn your lesson.
1 bartisyou2 2018-12-17
Haha this is good comment!!
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1 goderator200 2018-12-17
well i don't, you subconscious fuckface.
1 WarSanchez 2018-12-17
I hope it's both of your parents so you that you have to take care of them like they have to babysit your part time working basement dwelling self lmao.
Get off them drugs and clean your room.
1 bartisyou2 2018-12-17
Druga are fine
1 scatmunchies 2018-12-17
Do you act like this much of a faget because you’re high all the time?
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
no. because i'm constantly surrounding by god-forsaking retards pushing completely fucking bullshit down my throat, and i'm fucking sick of it.
1 jewdanksdad 2018-12-17
Druggies are always so damned stupid, but stay awhile! We love our cows!
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
this is not an argument you irrational fuck.
next time stick a dick in your mouth and suck it, because that's more useful to the world that bleating like a tribalistic sheeple.
1 jewdanksdad 2018-12-17
Whoa there, no attacking bussy around these parts!
1 Alicesnakebae 2018-12-17
Yeah man you're totally WoKe
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
still not an argument, you sheeplefied fuckhead.
1 LSDawson 2018-12-17
dude...........thats deep
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
that's not an argument either. but confirmation doesn't need to be logically coherent thought structures ... so cool man and have a nice day.
1 Alicesnakebae 2018-12-17
This isn't a debate nerd
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
no, this is just you being a fucking asshole, while conveying nothing of value to the person your being a fuckign asshole too, and nothing else.
1 Alicesnakebae 2018-12-17
Yawn stop projecting your insecurities you druggie its seriously unattractive
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
1 BristledJohnnies 2018-12-17
You talk like a stereotypical stoner out of a 90s bro comedy movie
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
and you talk like a stereotypical sheeple out of 2018 reality:
dismissing with references to cultural norms, depending on fallacious social bandwagons and/or common sense to make your point ... nothing anything i could meaningfully care about beyond responding to your post that it has nothing of value to add to building upon truth or meaning.
1 cmakk1012 2018-12-17
woah, man
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
yeah dawg, these sheeple don't know what they're dealing with.
1 BristledJohnnies 2018-12-17
Houston, we have a bruh moment
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1 bartisyou2 2018-12-17
You're not a good person...
1 Velxon 2018-12-17
He's a real shit eater
1 bartisyou2 2018-12-17
I see that name
1 Redactor0 2018-12-17
WEED DEFENSE FORCE, ASSEMBLE!
1 bartisyou2 2018-12-17
Whatever
1 charming_tatum 2018-12-17
Driving while high is fucked up. The other day I was cruising down highway 80 and I saw some foid blazing up a J in the lane next to me. That shit pissed me off so much I rolled down my window, chugged my beer and threw the empty can at her
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-12-17
Shut the fuck up with the excuses. Driving while high isn't alright. It's not the end of the world, but the frequency with which weed smokers dismiss the hazard is ridiculous.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
i'm never 'not high' you stupid idiot.
the way you people act like sobriety is king is out of hand religious and liable to get this species killed you fucking stupid worthing subconscious retard.
1 DonnyBravoKingofEire 2018-12-17
Hahahahaha weed lmao
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1 WarSanchez 2018-12-17
Lmao you're using a reddit signature now? Why are stoners so fucking cringy?
Must suck being stuck in a stunted prepubescent mindset because of DUDE WEED LMAO.
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1 goderator200 2018-12-17
that's not my signature. i use hastag g-o-d
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1 WarSanchez 2018-12-17
That's a signature...
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
you're signature is trying to make a change?
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1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-12-17
I've been a habitual weed smoker for a decade. I also have a mortgage and a full time job. I know when to enjoy myself and when not to. That's a major part of being a responsible person.
You smoke weed. That does not afford you some kind of special perspective on the world. I had that mindset for a couple years in college before I realized how fucking stupid it was. Get over yourself.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
i vape weed. not smoke it. combustion does not happen inside the heating chamber. because i care about what i put in my body, while you have accepted to not.
novel chemicals = different neurological state achievable. why do you you assume people that don't get exposed to those chemicals can achieve the same state?
because reasons? huh!? O.o
or maybe you just accepted stupidity and are still too stupid to realize it. humans have done that more often than not. i refuse to accept stupidity, now justify yourself fuckwit:
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-12-17
Good for you. So do I. People aren't being literal when they say "smoke weed". They just don't care about splitting hairs.
different != special
How many influential people have you heard of that spent their lives smoking weed with a part-time job while living at their parents' house? What do you do with the other part of your week aside from smoking weed? I bet it isn't catching up on Kantian ethics.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
so why are you arguing being high is inherently an impairment?
look dude, this utterly retarded sobriety bias which assume:
non-sobriety <= sobriety
... is completley unjustified and as far as i'm concerned, probably going to killed this worthless species off to the completely irrationality of it.
i don't really want to get on the topic of influential people, because as far as i'm concerned, many people who you think are 'influential' of today ... are almost categorically holding this species back than progressing them forward ...
and bleating sheeple like you are even worse because you can't figure it out enough to break past the spell that holds you back, thinking it is what is keeping you 'sane'.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-12-17
It's an impairment on one's reaction time, at least. It can be beneficial in other ways, but believing that any drug is without its downsides is just stupid.
We use sobriety as a neutral point in general from which to judge general aptitude across all people. We have studies that demonstrate delayed reaction time in marijuana users while driving. You shouldn't need this shit spelled out to you.
Way to dodge the question. Let me rephrase it. How many people from history that you admire spent their time like you do? You don't even have to respond to that one because regardless of what you shoot back with, you already know the real answer.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
i play a boatload of video games high.
my impairment depends on how much a care, and why i'm driving, i really fucking care.
we don't even know enough about the brain to objectively define what sober means.
you have massive epistemological holes in your assertions here you are not addressing.
you're trying to reduce all of driving down to one ability: reaction to informationally incoherent (random) events.
see weed decreases your likelihood of being subjected to such events by making you a more cautious and defensive driver overall. i don't even care about driving the speed limit anymore, slower is fine for me.
but that kind of nonlinear complexity isn't comphrendable by a fucking retardedly oversimplifying unethical rule of law which relies on abstracted numbers to make hard, laughably 'objective', rulings ... so they just fucking ignore it like it doesn't exist.
i wouldn't even know because the people who control the spread of authoritative history have taken great care to erase as much of humanity's history of drug use as they can, because they didn't fit their fucking norms.
dude, you argue like an idiot who relies on social cohesion to prove your point, which is a bandwagon fallacy, not actually meaningful hard epistemologically relevant statements.
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1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-12-17
Driving slower than the speed limit is a hazard to other drivers. Thank you for literally proving my point. I wouldn't expect anything less from someone whose defining character trait is vaping weed.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-12-17
Driving slower than the speed limit is a hazard to other drivers. I suspected you would fire back with a response along this line. Thank you for proving my point. I wouldn't expect anything less from someone whose defining character trait is vaping weed.
There is copious amounts of material out there about drug use throughout history. If you actually tried to research the subject matter, you might have realized this. Also, lol at the fact that you can't even name historical people that you find influential.
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1 goderator200 2018-12-17
i'm not taking a ticket for you bumblefucks.
and i drive exactly as fast as the car in front of me, with room to merge. if that is or is not slower than the speed limit i don't care. i just like the fact that i don't care, you derpfuck.
yes, and history is heavily edited using omission all over the place. authoritarians love 'white lies' to push their versions of reality, because they are mostly subconscious idiots who don't understand that all the details actually matter.
because i don't really care about listing influence people on a normal basis so i'm not pulling that out of long term memory just to prove a point for an idiot like you.
i care about using good ideas, not who said them. it's pretty important to detach from who says what because society makes a bunch of wrong moves about what is or isn't wrong, makes blanket assertions of sources, then uses those blanket wrong assertions to make origin fallacies about passing wrong information all the time. i don't care about those origin fallacies, i just care about what is or is not, not who said it.
do you notice how you're trying to use a facial expression to get your point across instead of some kind of coherent fact i don't already know ... except you never think like that because you just bully people with social bandwagons instead of enlightening them with truth.
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1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-12-17
I understand. I wouldn't want to strain you with the effort required to actually remember something. God only knows how much actually makes it into your long-term memory.
Oh, yeah, you really made good points with "epistemologically relevant statements" like telling me I "argue like an idiot".
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
yeah, cognition is strain.
i'm not wasting to prove points that don't have existential value. i'd rather spend it trying to convince what is and isn't existentially valuable ... because that's far more useful, in my opinion.
yes, i call you an idiot. and i'm still calling you an idiot.
if you're trying to claim my arguments actually reduce to just calling you an idiot ... then you do not need to reply further, life needs to teach you more lessons before you can even coherently read my words, much less respond coherently, to them.
1 Heydammit 2018-12-17
Please, for the love of actual rational discussion really think m about the words you are using and the arguments you are making before spouting off stuff. Holy hell.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
not an argument.
1 trilateral1 2018-12-17
long term memory is for squares.
1 MG87 2018-12-17
It's just easier to call you retarded
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
no it's not. you literally don't know enough about the brain to objectively define what sober means. because we don't even know how the brain cognates. i realize scientists will come up with wordy explanations ... but none of it is grounded in a coherent theory that actually predicts anything accurately about how we cognate.
1 MG87 2018-12-17
We may not know everything about the human brain but wr absofuckinglutely know what sobriety is.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
defining sobriety would require knowing enough about the brain to objectively define a state. which we don't actually know enough about the brain to do.
1 MG87 2018-12-17
We absolutely do tho:
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
here, someone else created a better explanation than i, which i copy pasted because who knows what is and isn't being edited in transit, that site doesn't have a secure certificate: hopefully reddit doesn't edit this, i dunno
you combine that a non-dualist like me who thinks about things like pesticide contamination affecting neurotransmitter levels, gut microbiology which we haven't even remotely started working out, etc, etc. and the socially assumed definition of 'sobriety' has become seemingly nothing but a bandwagon to me ...
one thing i've personally accepted about the human experiance, is that conscious beings can't even generate new conscious will, without sexually induced levels of oxytocin. such that if you don't have an active sex life with a soulmate, then i can safely ignore you as a sheeple who can't even generate opposition to apply against the will that drives me, much less actually apply said supposed opposition.
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1 MG87 2018-12-17
Yeah I stopped reading at "near permanently elevated levels of adrenaline". That moron has no goddamn idea how the endocrine system works
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
did science measure the norm and just assert it correct?
because it tends to do that irrationally, all over the place, and it's going to get this species killed if it keeps doing that.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
you stopped reading because reading further would have generated incoherencies in your understanding you can't tolerate, and subsequently you used an irrelevant conclusion fallacy to avoid dealing with that.
1 MG87 2018-12-17
I stopped reading because I understand physiology and I didn't want to laugh like a crazy person at work
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
the fact you're not explaining your understanding, and simply claiming to have it, especially while claiming to have a rationally coherent basis for it .... leaves me skeptical.
how do you even determine what optimal adrenalin levels are? mass surveying and just assuming normal numbers are optimal?
1 MG87 2018-12-17
Because having "permanent elevated adrenaline levels"would be impossible, your adrenal glands simply don't produce that much, unless you have an adrenal tumor
The maximum amount of epinephrine that your body can possibly take is 8 mgs(meaning Uma Thurman probably would have died in Pulp Fiction regardless)
The normal amount of epinephrine produced is about 100 picograms.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
and how do know this to be reasonably correct as a normal for society?
1 MG87 2018-12-17
Because it's been studied and observed by people much smarter than you and I
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
look dawg, if your final answer is an argument from authority fallacy, you're only further cementing me into the assumption that you're feeding me horseshit, and not a coherent understanding that i can meaningfully integrate into my worldview.
1 MG87 2018-12-17
All I did was give you the numbers you fucking dipshit
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
which doesn't mean a whole lot. like i'm not learning why those numbers are reasonable. or if they are actually representing conditions most humans are experiencing.
if that's all if took to convince you, someone 'smarter' than you, with some 'numbers' ... lol ...
1 MG87 2018-12-17
Took you a while to think of that didn't it?
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
or you have so little substance to offer i just forgot about responding for 2 days, but i always hate to leave loose ends ...
1 MG87 2018-12-17
Rent free
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
intelligence free too
1 Chronicopia420 2018-12-17
Lmfao of course you vape weed
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2018-12-17
I got sick of having a slight smokers' cough.
1 MG87 2018-12-17
You keep saying this without actually explaining what the fuck it means, you think you are saying something profound but you're just spewing nonsense
Again: Nonsense
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
i'm spewing my perspective.
which you have no right to just call nonsense without actually providing a reason to call it nonsense, but you don't even know how to cognitively identify what a reason is, much less provide it a coherent fashion.
keep on bleating like a sheeple.
not an argument.
1 MG87 2018-12-17
Not an argument
which you have no right to just call nonsense without actually providing a reason to call it nonsense,
Because it's nonsensical drivel
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
you're not making arguments, so i can't give any arguments in response.
1 POST_BUSSY 2018-12-17
? i'm never 'not high' you stupid idiot
Pretty obvious tbh
1 Heydammit 2018-12-17
This is not an argument and is poor logic. I am all for smoking weed, but you are just a low brain idjit evidenced by these comments
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
i love it when people about poor logic and then proceed to follow up their critique is completely poor logic.
1 Heydammit 2018-12-17
No the logic is sound. People that make stupid comments are low brain idjits. You made a stupid, baseless comment about how not smoking weed is likely going to get us killed. Therefore you are a low brain idjit.
QED motherfucker.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
you realize god doesn't give a shit about sheeplefying ideas like what you're presenting?
like you can yell all you want, but it ain't convincing anything but sheeple who already agree with your unjustified bandwagon.
1 Heydammit 2018-12-17
What does that have to do with anything? I don't give a fuck about god or whoever. You made a stupid fucking comment about sobriety being dangerous, you get labelled as an idiot.
Hell, you're so blitzed you can't even follow one comment back.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
god is a just a personified description of world metas that emerge without our layer of reality and above, that we aren't going to be able to understand using science because we can't test all of reality, reduced, in a lab.
the only reason you don't give a fuck about god is because you have no care or love for the fate of these species.
so fuck off and die you soulless cretin.
1 Heydammit 2018-12-17
Your description of god is a crack-pot, fart-sniffing delusion created by your own ego to justify its existence and elevate yourself above others.
I care for existence without needing some metaphysical description outside of our reality to force my hand.
This isn't even about science, you're just spouting bullshit spiritualism without any kind of actionable plan of how you want to fix things, only that there is something wrong. No shit, Captain Cannabis. The rest of us that give a fuck about things are trying to do something about it.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
no, you really don't. you don't care about existence until you have an appreciation for god. which is just a metaphor for everything humanity needs to coherent self-organize. until you can claim that, you're a worthless idiot.
there's no actionable plan while the world is filled with retards such as yourself.
the only plan until then is sitting on the internet trying to make humanity less retarded.
no. you aren't. every action a dumbass like you does, only makes things worse.
1 westofthetracks 2018-12-17
lmao i'd love to hear whatever crackpot spiel you have about how "sobriety" is dooming humanity and not like, the organization of productive forces or something else normal
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
because sober people literally don't give enough of a fuck about surviving a species to care enough to ensure we survive.
all too busy caring about their fucking dumbass narcissistic lives to give a shit about the fact we've ourselves up for extinction with coherent plan for how to even acknowledge the problem to the masses, much less provide any sort of hope for dealing with it.
1 westofthetracks 2018-12-17
damn, even less thought-out than i was expecting, you sure you havent been mixing some benzos with your weed?
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
no, you don't fucking care that this species is going extinct you stupid moron.
which is why you're sitting here doing nothing but repeating a bandwagon instead doing something useful with that fucking food, air, and water god so graciously gave you, what a fucking dumbass that god was producing idiots like you ... like did something useful with your fucking pathetic waste of a life, and pass some kind of useful coherent information, which one could integrate into their understandings.
but you literally don't care about anything but bashing people over the head with irrational assertions because you're a fucking tool that deserves the extinction this species is getting.
1 westofthetracks 2018-12-17
youre one to be talking about "useful coherent information"
also the species probably isnt going extinct. yeah billions of people are going to die but there will be enough breeding couples left at the poles to carry on. this reality has nothing to do with "sobriety" though lol
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
no dude. this world has geological features that will ensure people at the poles are the first ones to be fucked, specifically massive methane reservoirs that no one on this planet has any fucking clue what to do about, especially since the ice cap preventing 1000s of gigatons of methane from venting into the air, is fucking melting at a rate we previously thought was egregiously improbable.
1 westofthetracks 2018-12-17
i mean dont get me wrong, if we did manage to actually kill ourselves as a species thatd be great, i just think youre being overly optimistic
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
i would describe myself as pessimistic, not optimist, about this situation.
though, it does provide the chance for humans to evolve past their current stagnation.
1 MG87 2018-12-17
And sobriety has what to do with all that?
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
nothing i could rationally explain because we don't have rational explanations for how the brain functions, and won't for some time.
1 MG87 2018-12-17
So you admit you're retarded
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
no. i admit that humans don't have the capability to currently understand all the physical systems they are dealing with, unlike what modern 'rationalists' so irrationally likes to claim.
the only reason you think you do, is because you can't distinguish bullshit hubris from coherently grounded fact.
1 MG87 2018-12-17
Projection
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
you can't just claim stuff without backing it up, at least a little ...
1 MG87 2018-12-17
I like weed but you are a fuckin' moron
1 trilateral1 2018-12-17
pathetic
1 wwaalleess 2018-12-17
Bruh that's totally lit fam keep tokin n don't let these fools stop u from gettin faded #420
1 CoolBeansBussyBoi 2018-12-17
You're not making the point you think you're making
1 XhotwheelsloverX 2018-12-17
[ X ] doubt
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
yes. sheeple have lots of doubt without reason.
1 POST_BUSSY 2018-12-17
It's 2018, get some new words
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
i just started using this one seriously like a few months ago.
if it ain't broke, don't fix it ...
1 OnionBits 2018-12-17
I'm telling you right now it's broke, just like your drug addled brain
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
you gotta back that up with more that just telling me it's broke. and then trying to pull a not so subtle sobriety fallacy.
you need more than just that dog, to actually pass anything i can understand and integrate into my world view.
1 Bovolt 2018-12-17
That's great unless you're over the age of 18
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
or understand the realities of this world we live. lol.
just because you hate your life, doesn't mean i have to, ok?
1 Bovolt 2018-12-17
Keep your standards low and you avoid being unhappy I guess
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
honestly man, i have no intention of moving out of my parents regardless of how much money i make. because it would be a fucking waste of resources, i'd rather invest in this house as family property and make their lives better in the process.
but that's because i'm not an unhappy fuck like yourself, and get along with my family.
1 Bovolt 2018-12-17
Being as much of an unproductive individual as you currently are is also wasting resources by the fact that you aren't producing as much as adult should be.
Loooooooot of projecting going on
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
if i get along with my family, why do i need to move out?
i'm just bored of responding to people who act like making money in the game of crapitalism actually means anything anymore.
i do things for existential meaning, not money.
which doesn't actually require anymore than sitting in my room, on the internet, thinking about some rather horrible incoherencies, in some rather widely made assumptions about fundamental discrete state logic processes ... and i'm just not going to go on because we're in way over your sheeplefied head already, and i'm going to 'pick my battles' with likes of roger penrose, not you.
1 Bovolt 2018-12-17
To relieve your family of the burden of supporting you.
Yet you still respond.
See, like I said. Keep your standards low and you'll always be satisfied!
I mean, none of the thoughts/opinions you've been presented with are uncommon, so it's hard to really get why you'd call other people sheep when you haven't presented any single unique thought.
Don't think he'd waste his time with some shut in stoner.
1 LedinToke 2018-12-17
Sounds like a big excuse you thought up to explain your lack of motivation tbqhfam
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
and this sounds like a big excuse you thought up to explain how shit your life is, tbqhfam
people who are triggered to post worthless negative comments on the internet, are triggered by emotions i've gone great lengths to free myself from.
1 MG87 2018-12-17
You're not as smart as you think you are.
Because you're a moocher and your parents aren't going to support you all their lives
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
and i live on a planet full of moochers who mostly have convinced themselves they aren't because of a stupid number that the social bandwagon believes into like a goddamn religion, so i really don't feel that bad, honestly.
1 MG87 2018-12-17
But you"re not gonna do that, you're just gonna smoke weed and play vidya when you're not flipping burgers
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
no actually i sit at a self-serve gas station and think about deep incoherencies in fundamental discrete state logic.
1 MG87 2018-12-17
Cool, can you print out the receipt on pump #4?
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
honestly, people like you, who make fun people in such positions
1 MG87 2018-12-17
I am making fun of you exclusively because you have an inferiority complex.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
no i sit in an existentially precarious position where i have almost nothing but my intellect, and my soulmate's raw will, to guarantee anything about future.
i'm banking on that over all of what society says i should do, at this point. very few people have the balls to do anything remotely like that.
if that makes me feeling a little insecure, i think i'm allowed some leeway here ...
1 RedditorsAreRetarts 2018-12-17
I can't believe how many retards are taking your bait lol. But good job.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
dude. i'm not pulling any metas here. this is just the grunt ideological work of progressing humanity.
offense is the motor of human progress.
1 POST_BUSSY 2018-12-17
Lmao imagine believing that
😂😂😂
1 jubbergun 2018-12-17
Really?
1 seshfan2 2018-12-17
Why do you dislike your life so much that you have to take drugs constantly to be happy?
If someone came to you and told you that they were drunk 24/7, or on cocaine 24/7, would you think they were a normal, healthy individual?
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
why do you dislike your life so much that you have to be sober constantly to be happy?
honestly man. some people live off like 5 cups of coffee a day, and that ain't "sobriety" either, cause you're brain doesn't produce caffeine, but they ain't gotta deal with this kind of crap when they talk about their personal habit online.
just the sheeple who have all these arbitrary lines drawn up about what does or does not count as sobriety, when really it's just a load of crap you turd.
1 seshfan2 2018-12-17
I'm not sober 24/7. I do drugs that I enjoy in moderate amounts because wanton hedonism does not lead to lasting happiness.
You cleverly dodged my question, by the way. You are an addict. You are going to respond to this with some very clever justification for why you aren't, but you are.
In fact, I'll go so far as to say I bet you can't even go a single day without smoking pot. You'll tell yourself "Psh, I totally know I could... but why bother?" and you'll keep smoking, day in and day out.
I just wish I knew why you find being sober such a miserable experience. I hope one day you'll try it out - even for a day! - and maybe you'll find it's not all that bad.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
i could stop.
but then i wouldn't have the added benefit of thc.
which would be an objectively different brain state
that idiots like you would overgeneralize to being just as good as sobriety.
because you don't care about coherent logical understand, and never did, so i can proceed to ignore you as existentially meaningless.
1 seshfan2 2018-12-17
How predictable. "I could stop, but I won't because [insert bullshit rationalization that you cooked up to convince yourself you're not an addict]"
You are an addict. Feel free to ignore me, but I hope you realize this one day before you start ignoring the people who actually care about you.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
you call me an addict just means i have a habit you disagree with, and nothing more.
the problem is, i'm not proving anything. and there's nothing to gain from not ingesting.
you telling me off with such retardedness does nothing to convince me there's anything to gain, but an increased appreciation for logical fallacy and prejudice, apparently ...
1 BASED_from_phone 2018-12-17
>grown ass adult working part time
😂😂😂😂😂
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
because i can get paid to sit on reddit. and the job doesn't come home with me.
1 blyatman12345 2018-12-17
No, that's the reality of being a degenerate pothead
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
why can't i just live at home and just inherit the house of my parents? this would be a normal proposition in many parts of the world, just not america we're we are isolated by weird memes that loser idiots like you tell themselves to make up for how shit your life is. lol.
look dude, you're the one sitting on an internet forum calling a random person a degenerate for really no coherent reason other than brainless societal indoctrination that basically screams "hey look at my i'm a sheeple".
1 sevgee 2018-12-17
You can still inherit their house without having to shit in their basement until they die off you worthless faggot.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
do you know what you're doing here?
you're trying convince me that i'm wrong, for no particularly rational reason, just an ad hominem over being a "worthless faggot", in order to change the course of my life to do something i have no will to do.
you're trying to subvert my conscious will, with subconscious emotional indoctrination that you need in order to make your pathetic life coherent.
well, i'm not having any of it. my parents have said they are ok with it as long as i like, as i'm going take advantage of that instead of being forced into situations where i myself am getting taken advantage of, like paying for a ridiculously overpriced room in silicon valley, or moving away and losing my whole social network ...
god you fucking bleating capitalist sheeple are fucking morons.
1 sevgee 2018-12-17
Dude capitalists lmao
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
look dude, i'm just writing the words down, such that once you realize you're a worthless fucking idiot doing nothing but killing this species with every breath you take, because you're so fucking retarded, you can reference them ...
1 sevgee 2018-12-17
Being a social retard doesn't make you a savior of the species sweaty
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
you're not making any arguments other than an ad hominem. which i can't do anything with.
you should have just typed jibberish, that's not as bad as mistaking a fallacy as coherent thought
1 sevgee 2018-12-17
And you still haven't explained how not smoking pot is somehow killing our species besides "you just don't get it, man". Go ahead and elaborate sweaty
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
because one can understand that there isn't going to be a rational explanation for someone who can't figure this out from personal experiance ...
because no one on the planet is close to coherently describing the neurology behind the kinds of ideas you can have, much less attribute particular states to a particular drug usage
1 sevgee 2018-12-17
Go on
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
1 SlowFatHusky 2018-12-17
What if they want to cash out and do something else besides baby sit you the rest of their lives?
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
being rich makes you worthless leech unable to coherently progress the species.
they do nothing but fill their egos full of shit.
1 SlowFatHusky 2018-12-17
Sitting at home after working a part time job and being stoned isn't progressing the species either except hopefully keeping you out of the gene pool.
If they sold the house, they could be broke by the time they die.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
on major problem with capitalists is they irrationally believe that making money = progressing this species when no god actually made that existential guarantee anywhere.
you don't even know what progressing this species looks like, because we've become so god damn stagnate, despite the technological proliferation that has happened.
because we aren't actually solving any human problems, that takes applying will in a collective direction, not just hoping collective will manfiests out of bunch of narcissistically worthless agents of greed doing not but working for themselves with money being the only significantly meaningful connecting factor, you psychopaths watch and blame homeless people to no fucking end.
fuck, this society is moronic i'm surprised we're not dead yet.
1 SlowFatHusky 2018-12-17
Money = tokens to make it worth sacrificing my time for a purpose. I don't care if it advances the species or not. It's time I won't get back. If those capable of doing the work to progress the species aren't compensated, why are they expected to sacrifice their time to advance the species? Why wouldn't they sit home and blaze up instead of wasting their lives for the benefit of the species?
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
and this is exactly why this species is headed off the existential cliff to extinction, and not sustainable utopia.
those capable of doing the subconsciously motivated work of capitalism ... where you don't think about what you're doing, and are just getting paid. are the very people building the system that going to cause this species to go extinct ...
so no, i'm not thanking you for anything. you sacrificed for no one but yourself, moron.
1 SlowFatHusky 2018-12-17
You're right. I sacrifice for myself. I am not sacrificing for you to stay home, play games, and blaze up. Given the option, I'd rather do that, except I don't have parents that could or would have supported a NEET indefinitely.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
ironically, i've blazed up so much, i'd rather not being doing that.
but in the process i've realized that i can't progress any existentially meaningful goals within the current capitalist-dominated framework, and subsequently will continue blazing it up until i see a coherent opportunity to do so.
so you're not sacrificing for the whole, which means you're a useless subconscious idiot doing nothing but advancing humanity to extinction, as it stands.
1 SlowFatHusky 2018-12-17
You go contribute to humanity's progression. A capitalist framework doesn't stop those who are determined to advance humanity.
Humanity won't go extinct without another extinction level even. That will come eventually.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
yes and no. if it's left in place, it will. but if you're including the fact that those determined to advance humanity can remove it from it's place, then i will admit, that it has a chance of not preventing us from going extinct.
your certainty in this matter belays your ignorance of the existential situation humanity finds itself in.
1 blyatman12345 2018-12-17
>this guy calling anyone else a leech
Lmao
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
people who think leeching is tied to monetary value generated or not, are all fucking worthless, sinning leeches.
1 blyatman12345 2018-12-17
>pothead opinion
Lmao
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
not really lmao. people like you are killing humanity as we speak.
1 shitpersonality 2018-12-17
You sound like a NEET.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
you sound like someone who relies on fallacious sweeping generalizations.
1 shitpersonality 2018-12-17
Woah that is fucked up. I am going to think about what you said and change my ways.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
1 Kiru-kokujin25 2018-12-17
except it does?
https://www.drugfreekidscanada.org/prevention/drugs-and-driving/
https://nationalpost.com/news/thinking-of-driving-while-high-a-new-study-shows-pot-increases-the-risk-of-a-crash-even-five-hours-after-inhaling
zoz
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
even 5 hours after inhaling? lol
i mean i could understand them trying to claim an hour after inhaling. but not 5.
1 Kiru-kokujin25 2018-12-17
Yeah?
It's not completely out of your system by then so yes it can still pose (a smaller but still noticeable) risk
and your claim was that it doesnt make you a worse driver not that 5 hours after you wont be a worse driver
1 Heydammit 2018-12-17
You can't even refute the science you complete idiot. Put the pipe down for a bit try thinkimg for yourself and not what you hear from stoner communities.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
i don't talk to 'stoner communities' you fucking waste of oxygen
1 WiggityWatchinNews 2018-12-17
You're a waste of weed, though it's definitely shit weed anyway
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
more like california medical grade indoor hydro.
1 Heydammit 2018-12-17
You don't have to talk to a community to absorb information from it you retard.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
yeah but you do have to specifically find them out, which i don't.
1 elftor421 2018-12-17
lmao a stoner calling someone else a waste of life
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
yes, you're a waste of life too.
1 elftor421 2018-12-17
you're pretty mad for a stoner
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
because the generalization of 'a stoner' is an icon of cultural indoctrination, not an actual description of what weed usage is like.
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1 Power_Incarnate 2018-12-17
Don't downvote lolcows retards
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
you can't downvote me in a meaningful way.
you can only depict how much a lolcow this whole place is.
1 Power_Incarnate 2018-12-17
Stoners are subhumans
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
sobriety is one running the train off the global warming cliff because it's too psychopathic to care about survival.
but i'm the subhuman once.
1 Power_Incarnate 2018-12-17
That made no fucking sense, smoke less weed dumbass
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
maybe you need to smoke more weed, dumbass, in order for it to make sense ...
1 Heydammit 2018-12-17
That is retarded. "You just aren't on my level man."
1 XakeMarte 2018-12-17
Dude weed lmao.
There's a reason alcohol consumption is socially accepted. It doesn't make us retarded over time.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
uhh, alcohol is the one that kills brain cells.
weed actually protects them.
society allows the one that pharmacologically makes you retarded,
you got you're facts all fucked up.
1 SoMuchMeat 2018-12-17
Your*
Alcohol doesn't kill brain cells.
Dude, weed lmao.
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
alcohol is a direct neurotoxin.
weed is a direct neuroprotectant.
these aren't really debated facts in the medical field, it's just the government is loaded with sheeple that can't accept the realities of the situation.
1 MG87 2018-12-17
I smoke plenty of weed and I have never come to that conclusion
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
ingesting substances allows you to reach new understands ... it doesn't guarantee it if you don't care.
1 Redactor0 2018-12-17
So basically you can do whatever you want, lie, cheat, steal, run people over, whatever, because normal people use electricity?
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
people do all of those thing sober.
1 MayoIsSpicy 2018-12-17
Not once, always
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
you always know your in the presence of the sheeple when you're ... oh whatever.
1 MayoIsSpicy 2018-12-17
Making fun of grammar mistakes is fun
You should’ve left it 😤😤😤
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
9/11 truth comes first. no way you start using it unironically before that. just saying.
1 ItsGettinBetterMan 2018-12-17
While you sit in your room smoking with the same 3 people everyday talking about the same shit day in day out and going "I'll change tomorrow"
1 goderator200 2018-12-17
there is absolutely no change on a personal level that could make a difference.
i sit on the internet and try to spread memes of understanding as best i can, because spreading truth is the only way to wake people up enough to care.
it's hard because you have to deal with loads of badly programming assholes like yourself that are spewing socially indoctrinated nonsense that has nothing to do with actually how i live my life.
1 XhotwheelsloverX 2018-12-17
Flair checks out
1 charming_tatum 2018-12-17
Driving while high is fucked up. The other day I was cruising down highway 80 and I saw some foid blazing up a J in the lane next to me. That shit pissed me off so much I rolled down my window, chugged my beer and threw the empty can at her
1 Die_Bart_Die_ 2018-12-17
I hate stoners the most because there the main reason Pot is still illegal.
1 WarSanchez 2018-12-17
The are the Jehovah Witnesses of the drug world.
1 -Kite-Man- 2018-12-17
Yeah I don't run around telling everyone how awesome my dilaidid addiction is and how they should try it because it's changed my whole perspective.
1 SixCylinder777 2018-12-17
Dilly’s are awesome but the addiction turns you into Golem
1 Van-Diemen 2018-12-17
At least 80% of the reason I think pot should be legal is the hope normies destroy the garbage dude weed """""""""""""""""culture"""""""""""""""""
1 RevolutionarySpread9 2018-12-17
I smoke pot everyday and I fucking hate stoners.
1 RandolphCox 2018-12-17
1 wwaalleess 2018-12-17
I'm choosing to believe that this is someone parodying that sub but I'm pretty sure it is actually real.
1 MotorButterscotch 2018-12-17
First comment is derailing Lel. Acting like literally every med bottle doesn't sat don't drive on me.
1 JabroniMark99 2018-12-17
Yep, and its completely irrelevant to the point.