Fuck you dude. You don't just get to believe what I'd been thinking the whole time now that it's convenient for you. First apologize to me for your original opinions, shithead.

And look: the fact that you just very recently had those problematic opinions does not just mean that you get to be woke within a matter of clicks; you still have a lot of rethinking to do. So shut up. Say you're sorry, SHUT THE FUCK UP, and start listening: the adults are talking, and what we have to say will impact generations to come.

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Beating up our AfD leader is definitely going to set-back our plans to reopen Auschwitz to process anarchists. Bastards. Now we have to re-examine our ideology.

I love how these brainlets either don't realize or don't care that this will fuel support for AfD way more than anything AfD has ever done.

I'm sure there's a /solution/ to deal with those brainlets. I hate having to go back and re-visit problems though. We need a solution... that's like the /last/ one we'll ever need. Can't think of the right word.

I've explained to same thing in regards to antifa to people on left. They just don't seem to get it. They think fighting proud boys and shit will scare them away, but it does the exact opposite, and makes them look sympathetic. I'm on the left, and other people on the left disappoint me the most. I'll have a conversation then BAM. They support beating people for their beliefs.

Same, dude. I'm a total leftoid but this shit has gone completely insane. I bumped into some guy the other day wearing an antifa shirt and it was kinda weird to run into an actual psycho IRL.

"But they're anti fascist. You don't like Hitler do you?" Is a good one. We could rename nambla the, "providing meat to needy children foundation", but they're still pedos.

It's called the democratic people's republic of korea, clearly all the info about it being a totalitarian hellscape is american propaganda!

For the scum that was beaten, he endorses an antisemitic view

"Now that is out of the way anarchists, lets post nonstop once more about how Israel and capitalistic money horders need to be destroyed."

From what I understand AfD is almost rabidly pro-Israel, most of these far-right parties are. It's probably compensation but still.

They want white Israel. They can’t demand a violent ethnostate and oppose the biggest example.

It definitely is compensation

They're very pro-Likud and the other right wing parties. They'd sing a different tune if there were a peacmaking left government in charge.

Even so, back in 1967 the right wing supported Israel when it was controlled by the socialist Labour party

All that mattered was that Israel was the enemy of the USSR's Arab puppets

The right wing in 1967—and the American right in particular—wasn't very much like today's GOP, which has moved toward a blood and soil nationalism with DJT. It's an import from Europe I'd like to send back along with that other imported product, Sanders-style social democracy, which is rooted in Continental critique rather than American thought (Marx bad, Dewey good).

We buy our drones to bomb brown people from them.

It's over German-post-war-political-hegemony-cels. Willy Brandt and Helmut Kohl didn't die for this.

bismark was an anarchist and there's nothing you can do about it

Atomic blackpill

And that one guy literally saying he'd side with government in 1944 world.

That was someone brigading from here

r/drama never brigades. It is literally against the rules.

Yes this will totally hurt the AFD. Same thing worked in Brazil a few months back.

You fucking soyboi pussy

The only soy I ingest is through my dickhole when it is up your ass because you eat so much soy.

Pweeese dont hurt da nice daddy mr antifa sir owo

Pathetic

🤔

This is embarrassing.

I actually cringed reading this, congrats

Complaining about retards getting beat up is the soyest of bois.

Hey, im the guy who is getting hatemail over on /r/anarchism for that comment.

Someone even told me i would side with the nazis myself during ww2 because i asked them for some evidence when they say the AFD is calling for genocide.

You can’t judge the left-wing by anarchists. They are even lower than tankies on the being-taken-seriously scale. Their rightoid equivalents are monarchists lmao.

difference is monarchies can actually exist

Not the kinds of monarchies monarchists want though

Is this the type of monarchy where the monarch is competent because they've been raised to be competent?

You know, the same sort of system which produces such stable individuals as Vlad the Impaler, Chin Shi Huangdi, Charles II of Spain, and Ivan the Terrible.

Once I reinstate the divine right of kings you're the first one to catch the guillotine

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using the guillotine on a commoner

the absolute STATE of monarchists

The guillotine is too merciful for those who oppose the crown. Instead we must use the rack.

Implying that you're not a government bureaucrat anti monarchist shill

Cope harder petercel

Seeing as there's still no one who has actually given you anything on the guy, I've tried to do some research (sources in german):

• Former member of literal commie party (DKP) turned conservative (CDU), before joining the AfD (source).

• Eurosceptic and against Merkel. If given the choice, would push a button that would make islam disappear from the earth, lmao. When asked about neo-nazi connections of party members he says "It's none of my business, we don't have anything to do with it".Notably he joined the party when it was still headed by Bernd Lucke, who is known for heading a more economically focused AfD. (source).

• In response to a question about racism in the AfD, he states that he's responsible for infrastructure and that it's not his job to comment on everything individual people in his party say. Goes on to say that he isn't racist, since his wife is turkish and he has a black acquaintance (well, actually it's a "visibly" cuban guy who is "his"(?) research fellow. Probably like an assistant thing?). Also says that an open minded (as in cosmpolitan) attitude and patriotism don't contradict each other. (source)

Make of that whatever you will my, but my take is: Conservatard who wants to Make Germany Great Again, but no indication of him being a 'real' racist or someone who actually advocates genocide.

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Downvoted that lewd and rude bot. That will teach lightumbra a lesson.

If given the choice, would push a button that would make islam disappear from the earth, lmao

oh no wat a fashist

If given the choice, would push a button that would make islam disappear from the earth

This but with all religions

This but with everyone. Omnicide now.

Bring back dinosaurs, IMO.

Thank you.

No, we said that you would side with the nazi's becose your argument was that murdering hitler for having "different views" would have been bad

Feel free to be a jackass, just be honest about it

I never said that lol. I said that i don't think people should have violent actions put upon them based in their opinions.

So you are saying that even with what we now know, killing hitler would be wrong?

You sound like 1930s german liberals

We wouldn't have know back then though would we have.

And saying well it's oke to beat or kill this guys, because he might be the next hitler is really stupid logicm

Im saying that i have no objection to hitler or people holding similar values being killed, i dont think annything of value would be lost, even if hitler would not have gained power it would still be justified imo

What about Stalin, Mao, and the people holding similar values?

similar values

Big difference for me moraly is that they were not dogmaticly antiegalitarian, but i would have no complaints if you shot them for being evil (stalin) or grossly incompetent (mao)

And i generaly have no problem with the murder of authoritarian heads of state

Can we at least agree to get rid of the white race?

even if hitler would not have gained power it would still be justified imo

Be real. You don't actually believe in anarchism or whatever other nonsense, you're just looking for an excuse to murder people, aren't you?

Who decides which ideas deserve the death penalty, then? Or is it just if I find their subjectively egregious enough I can kill them?

death penalty

That is something i wil never suport, taking a life is not something a state should be able to decide

What we are talking about is social consequences and morals

You’re effectively advocating for lunch mobs to give the death penalty instead of the state. Not exactly that much different since the outcome is the exact same. It’s not a social consequence for someone to die, that’s just a murder. A social consequence might be something like isolating them and not listening to them.

taking a life is not something a state should be able to decide

Yet you have no problem with random morons attempting to beat a man to death. I would say your thinking isn't consistent, but I'd be lying because it's obvious that you're consistently retarded.

As long as you are not saying some nazi shit or something inherently antiegalitarian we are all fine, and dont insult me by calling me a socialist

Who says im not?

Probably because you're not rotting in a jail cell somewhere because you're obviously too big of a pussy to back up the stupid shit you say online.

hey bub by having differing views we have decided that youre a nazi so you have to die :⁾⁾⁾⁾⁾

Please tell me how i am a nazi

Ill wait

if i say youre a nazi then youre a nazi

sorry bub

i can confirm that guy is a nazi

or something inherently antiegalitarian

I love this, because the people in power get to define what's "inherently antiegalitarian."

Suck my penis or you're a counterrevolutionary and will be gulaged, comrade!

suck my penis

Lets show that hog

That's a bad shtipost and you should feel bad about yourself.

Not a shitpost, i want to see your dick (or ladydick if that is what you are packing)

how do u say things this retarded without wanting to an hero in embarrassment

Im serious, i want to see your dick, public or PM, i dont care, i want to see it

Dont care as long as i get to see your dick

I offered to send him penis in exchange for a quality shitpost. We'll see how it pans out.

You do realize that could easily result in the Nazi party being headed by an actually competent leader, right?

I can think of a quick fix for that as well

Good luck pulling off two consecutive successful assassinations.

You're supposed to type a lot more comments before proving Godwin's law.

Call me when we have a time machine for that sweet 20/20 hindsight.

That's an absolutely retarded stance. People with stupid opinions should be shamed and beaten.

If anyone sounds like a Nazi right now it's you.

Stop calling everyone with different opinions a Nazi!

Degenerate opinions need to be punished with the whip or worse.

It was kind of a joke reffering to some people calling me a Nazi in the linked thread.

Too late, you've earned your beatings already.

No, we said that you would side with the nazi's becose your argument was that murdering hitler for having "different views" would have been bad

So would murdering Hitler for speaking German also be bad?

That is, we can agree that murdering Hitler pre-emptively would be good, but that doesn't justify any concievable reason that a person could come up with for murdering Hitler. Murdering Hitler is okay because he's Hitler. These arguments don't apply to anyone who doesn't meet that criteria!

Nothing wrong with the destruction of Islam. It's something many commies support as well.

Since Marx wanted all religions to die off shouldn't the dissolution of Islam be something all commies support?

The guy who replied to you with a literal paste from Wikipedia which didn't in any way answer your question cracked me up.

He was the closes to giving me a source, yet he didn't really give me anything in relation to what i asked for.

Do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny.

Who of the two though 🙄❓

Da joooooooo

Massively based and absolutely redpilled

Implying wanting you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed and finding it funny is a bad thing

When did this sub become a bunch of fun hating losers smdh

Never said so, but that's why you respond in kind, genocide em and have a laugh about it

And then the next time an anarchist gets battered for throwing a brick at the police:

“Police violence is very justified!”

“ACAB!”

“Don’t defend this you boot licker”

How can you support Anarchism but not have it on a sub? How do you expect to put a real world application and not be able to adapt it to a fucking internet forum?

Big L 😂

I am guessing you dont know much about anarchism

Anarchism is for edgy teens who get upset their mom wont let them play video games all day

And here i am reading books, silly me, i should have been playing video game all these years

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Woah books

Literally nothin personnel, kid: the ideology.

I know that anyone who calls themselves an anarchist or an anarcho-anything shouldn't be taken seriously.

I guess if you really wanted to be generous you could say that anarchism would work in the real world, but the mechanics of internet forums are different in such a way that the only way to manage an internet forum is as a feudal fiefdom.

Citation: all of the times anarchism has been successful in the real world.

I still don't get why people still take utopical ideologies seriously (as in stuff that could only work in a very utopic world).

bUt tHeRe aRe cOmMuNes

Yeah buddy, your little ciclejerk camp that couldn't fill a classroom is totally comparable to a huge city. Heck, even small cities would be unlivable under anarchy.

I think that's the problem with these types of ideologies. They know it won't work they just want everyone to be as miserable as them.

This is the dumbest take of all time.

Your mom goes to college.

So for people who knows, is tge AfD actual fascist nazis or reddit definitions of "fascist/nazi"?

This is a sub that has called mao rightwing after all

economic

Capitalism with protectionism mixed in with a bit of welfare state (especially pentions) highly populist but not following an economic model as we know them today besides being a "third position" (both in comparable ecconomic views and positioning of itself)

social

Regressive conservatism with some sparkles, acceptance of gay people as long as they dont act gay is a good example of this, wanting to return to old 1950s social norms, flat out hatred if immigration from non white/western countrys

authoritarian

Highly authoritarian, strong police, tough on crime, strong borders, anti EU

the filthy stuff

Undeniably has racism as a core party ideal, homofobia and transfobia, antisemetic to a degree (lots of infighing between the antisemetic right and the pro Israël right, party line is to talk about it as little as possible and downplay

All in all they are idiological decenents of national socialism and thrive on the same topics ("economic anxiety", "the others" a "grand germany" ideal) they are not neonazi skinheads, but the nazi skinheads are AFD, so yes, i would say it is a nazi party

notable acception is environment, where the nat-soc party was massivly pro environmentalism, the AFD are climate sceptics

still unemployed then?

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>highly authoritarian

>anti EU

Yes, those are only mutualy exclusieve if you are really really dumb

orban is not an authoritarian

Nice take mong

puts anti EU in the authoritarian section

Don't see how your stance on the EU determines your stance on authoritarianism either way.

Also don't see how strong borders are authoritarian really, as long as people can leave freely you could be internally very free but just not allow people in. Not really authoritarian more protectionist.

These things are not authoritarian in itself, it is more indicative of the hypernationalism that is often hand in hand with authoritarianism

Just checked this guys post history. He's just another Nazi troll trying to soil the good name of Germany's politicians. Downvote and move on.

good name

AFD

Try again

Nazi punk FUCK OFF

EUcels need to be gassed. Your neoliberal hell hole is falling apart and youre all carrying on like France isnt burning itself down every three weeks, Spain isnt desperately held together by tape whilst Basques and Catalonians try to Balkanize it, Italy isnt 100% populated by lazy work-shy poor people, ignoring that every flavour of Slav hates western Europe and all for Make Benefit for Great Country of Germanistan

Chill out incel

"It's not actually Nazi by ideology, but I say some Nazis are members so yeah it's Nazi."

The absolute state of leftoids

This is me saying that they are nazi by idiology, learn to read

Lukewarm acceptance of gay people and half your party being pro Israel is probably the most Nazi positions I know of, I admit.

Do you need reading glasses?

Buddy, you said in the post there's infighting between the section that toes the traditional pro-Israel line and the anti-Semitic line. Part of AfD fucking loves Israel.

Yes, and that doesn't deminish the fact that the party platform is 80/90% the same as the nazi party platform

Buddy, if they're not officially advocating for the genocide of Jewish people and other undesirables, they're not Nazis. It's probably one of the simplest metrics. Being fucktards that don't like immigration into the country and like social welfare that supports them has been the conservative line throughout history. Everything you said there paints them as being pretty much a German Tea Party.

officialy advocating genocide

Even swastika flying nazi skinheads and People like Richard sphincter and vanguard america know better than to openly advocate for genocide, you are reducing nazi idiology to one factor while it was a complex political system, that oversimplifies things way too much and prevents us to learn from history, the nazi's took quite a while before openly calling for genocide, dont let this one position blind you

tea party

Those do also have similarity with the nazi party line, notably less and i would not describe them as nazis, but i can confedently say that they have some influences of parlementary facism in the movement, but not enough to make a one on one comparison

Not to say that the tea party are not hypocritical scum, but they have a whole different platform on key issues (ACA being the most obvius example)

Yeah, the actual political ideology behind Nazism was called fascism, and it's a well documented ideology. The Nazi part of being a Nazi was their interpretation of fascism and the steps they took to genocide people. It's honestly hard to argue with someone that basically starts out an argument saying that although a far right group isn't calling for genocide, they could slippery slope into doing it and thus they're identifiable with Nazis. And fucking hell at calling the Tea Party parliamentary fascists, they are just a more right version of neoconservative ideology in America, which has nothing to do with and never had anything to do with fascism. Take off your leftist lens and understand that not every neo conservative ideology comes directly from fascism in the same way rightoids need to take off their everything comes from communism lens and you'll have a good time.

If you are not able to read the nuances in my post about "similaritys with" i am quiting this discusion as you are obviusly not arguing in good faith here

"Arguing in good faith" has to be the most retarded euphemism for "I'm calling out your moral character so I don't have to be wrong anymore" in existence, so I'm glad you pulled that card and showed what a dipshit you are.

It seems to be the latter, according to this comment

And people cheer because he is a "Nazi". He isnt, not by a long shot. He is a member of the moderate wing of the AfD, he has a turkish wife, his office is lead by a Cuban immigrant for fucks sake.

It's beating people up because of a political idea typically lead to fascism

why do they always pretend people they assault are one tiny step away from full blown genocide somehow lol

pretty hard to do a genocide by yourself

also i like "opinions are violence" thats not a terrible idea at all

words are not violence and you deserve prison for assault.

Anarchists continue to win the hearts and minds of the people

Physically assaulting your political opponents is bad!

Chapotard

Stealing right wing memes

Is anyone surprised?

It’s not stolen. It’s based off me.

Those retards who think that this doesn't help far right rhetoric, and anarchists are going to coordinate to take down the AfD are cracking me up. They're steadily gaining seats.

I dont know if German anti-fascists deserve the same disdain as their Berkeley comrades. Probably actually a pretty decent idea to suppress the far-right there.