If you support free speech, you must support people pinging other users. It's completely legal speech. If you won't defend pinging as free speech because you or someone else finds it disgusting, then no speech that you or anyone else views as disgusting is safe.
if it is in fact on shaky legal ground it's reasonable to not want to be the case that establishes it as illegal.
It's not, The reddit admins are straight up lying to the ignorant (like yourself) to justify their prejudice. Pinging being protected speech has long since been estabilished, as it has undeniable artistic merit. The only time it's been included under any obscenity laws is when someone is being charged with possession of harassment, so the state can slap them with more charges. The courts have been very careful to not charge anyone for pinging, because they'd get their asses fucking annihilated by a higher court due to the firm precedence of pinging being completely legal speech. /r/Drama had nothing to worry about, this guy was just making shit up to fool people into thinking his censoring wasn't entirely personally motivated.
Communists/Socialists were big tertiary supporters of Hitler's rise to power because they believed after he tore down the 'establishment' he would fail and there would be a worker uprising to usher in a communist utopia.
So they're basically just as stupid as communists/socialists today
Centrist take: The Nazis were third positionsist, and therefore don't fit in the left-right, socialist-capitalist paradigm. However, if you did try to fit them on it, they would be far right socialists, of a non-marxist sort that replace class struggle with racial struggle.
Tell that to Europe, aka Germany if they hadn't opened the eastern front or been jerking the schnitzel when Normandy went down.
Germany would've lost even if they didn't open the Eastern front. It was the best option for them, they maybe would've lost sooner if they didn't invade.
Germany needed to continuously invade new countries to seize assets to fuel their shitty economy, and Russian oil was their only chance at addressing their constant shortages. If they didn't invade the Soviet Union, they're economy would've collapsed sooner.
And even if they beat the odds and conquered the Soviets up to the Urals, the Western Allies would've invaded anyway, atomic bombing every city that resists them before probably defeating Germany by 1947-1948.
I mean, that's what you get for inventing the term JΓΌdische Physik. You get an atom bomb dropped on you, that's what you get if you live long enough to get it, which they unfortunately didn't.
Yeah, seriously, it never even began for them. The more you look into it, the more you see how there was never a real path open to world domination for them. Even if they had taken over the UK, the US would jumped across from Brazil to Africa and gotten to them that way. The only question was how long the war would last and how many people would be killed.
Philosophically socialism and national socialism come from very different perspectives (I.e. universalism vs nationalism) but some have made the argument that, in practice, both systems were very similar due to the fact that private ownership in Germany existed in name only - private business owners were in reality just government contractors
Hitler himself didn't know what the fuck to be, economically. He was totalitarian right sometimes, he was socialist left sometimes. My enlightened take
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1 SnapshillBot 2019-01-12
If you support free speech, you must support people pinging other users. It's completely legal speech. If you won't defend pinging as free speech because you or someone else finds it disgusting, then no speech that you or anyone else views as disgusting is safe.
It's not, The reddit admins are straight up lying to the ignorant (like yourself) to justify their prejudice. Pinging being protected speech has long since been estabilished, as it has undeniable artistic merit. The only time it's been included under any obscenity laws is when someone is being charged with possession of harassment, so the state can slap them with more charges. The courts have been very careful to not charge anyone for pinging, because they'd get their asses fucking annihilated by a higher court due to the firm precedence of pinging being completely legal speech. /r/Drama had nothing to worry about, this guy was just making shit up to fool people into thinking his censoring wasn't entirely personally motivated.
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1 modsarefags225690 2019-01-12
A lot of cope there. Natsocs may not be socialists, but they recruited from them.
1 Corporal-Hicks 2019-01-12
Many Nazis were actually ex-communists removed from the party during Stalin's Purity purge in the late 1920's.
1 MehmedIIDidNoWrong 2019-01-12
...and then murdered by the Nazi party in the 30's lmao.
1 Karmaisforsuckers 2019-01-12
Communists/Socialists were big tertiary supporters of Hitler's rise to power because they believed after he tore down the 'establishment' he would fail and there would be a worker uprising to usher in a communist utopia.
So they're basically just as stupid as communists/socialists today
1 Prysorra2 2019-01-12
Brinkmanship FAIL
1 jhuro17 2019-01-12
Centrist take: The Nazis were third positionsist, and therefore don't fit in the left-right, socialist-capitalist paradigm. However, if you did try to fit them on it, they would be far right socialists, of a non-marxist sort that replace class struggle with racial struggle.
So, in the end, everybody's right about them!
1 heretobefriends 2019-01-12
Actual centrist take: they're all collectivist bugpeople.
1 high_side 2019-01-12
Factual take: Naziism is orthogonal to economic policy. They nationalized VW and also had a strong push to build independent industries.
Also, the reason Naziism is bad is not because of their economic policy.
1 ImJustaBagofHammers 2019-01-12
True, but their economic policy was still a disaster.
1 jhuro17 2019-01-12
What, you mean relying on looting gold from other countries isn't a sustainable economic modelβ½
1 Prysorra2 2019-01-12
Well if you imaging WWII as Germany saying "I was left out of colonizing Africa and Asia so I'm gonna colonize YOU" .... I guess that works.
1 UmmahSultan 2019-01-12
Even better is Italy saying "I have to take Africa from all of the real colonizers because Libya doesn't have any oil."
1 Prysorra2 2019-01-12
Ethiopia FAIL lol
1 gaynazifurry4bernie 2019-01-12
Once the country runs out of gold, you can always take it from the teeth of the people.
1 high_side 2019-01-12
Tell that to Europe, aka Germany if they hadn't opened the eastern front or been jerking the schnitzel when Normandy went down.
Maybe it wasn't sustainable, like all wartime budgets. But there's a certain brilliance to:
Deficit spend, invest in technology
Steal all the money from the yid
Bring back slave labor
Plunder all your neighbors
1 jhuro17 2019-01-12
Germany would've lost even if they didn't open the Eastern front. It was the best option for them, they maybe would've lost sooner if they didn't invade.
Germany needed to continuously invade new countries to seize assets to fuel their shitty economy, and Russian oil was their only chance at addressing their constant shortages. If they didn't invade the Soviet Union, they're economy would've collapsed sooner.
And even if they beat the odds and conquered the Soviets up to the Urals, the Western Allies would've invaded anyway, atomic bombing every city that resists them before probably defeating Germany by 1947-1948.
They had 0% chance of ever winning.
1 high_side 2019-01-12
Big, of tru.
1 White_Dudeness 2019-01-12
I mean, that's what you get for inventing the term JΓΌdische Physik. You get an atom bomb dropped on you, that's what you get if you live long enough to get it, which they unfortunately didn't.
1 Redactor0 2019-01-12
Yeah, seriously, it never even began for them. The more you look into it, the more you see how there was never a real path open to world domination for them. Even if they had taken over the UK, the US would jumped across from Brazil to Africa and gotten to them that way. The only question was how long the war would last and how many people would be killed.
1 Corporal-Hicks 2019-01-12
Nazis drank water, hence, water is bad.
1 friend1y 2019-01-12
The Nazi's were like Communists but substitute what the upper classes represent in communism with "the Jews".
1 Prysorra2 2019-01-12
I'm sorry, please delete this comment, your wife, and then your life. I know it's correct. Delete it anyway.
1 westofthetracks 2019-01-12
when u know what words mean
1 rveos773 2019-01-12
Something to consider - an ideology that preserves culture and sovereignty is not just right wing but anti-marxist.
1 10IphonesIcarlyyyyyy 2019-01-12
Philosophically socialism and national socialism come from very different perspectives (I.e. universalism vs nationalism) but some have made the argument that, in practice, both systems were very similar due to the fact that private ownership in Germany existed in name only - private business owners were in reality just government contractors
1 modsarefags225690 2019-01-12
Fag
1 10IphonesIcarlyyyyyy 2019-01-12
This. So much this!
1 error404brain 2019-01-12
Where is the drama, tho ?
1 high_side 2019-01-12
The post by itself qualifies it.
1 error404brain 2019-01-12
Yeah, the thread is good, but 14 comments are not drama.
1 error404brain 2019-01-12
The post is milquetoast conservatism. It's the equivalent as "helping people is not socialism". Barely any drama if you sort by controversial even.
1 high_side 2019-01-12
Downvoted for using the word milquetoast.
1 rtk-03 2019-01-12
but it IS milky toast conservatism.
1 error404brain 2019-01-12
Downvoting me don't make me wrong, milquetoast conservative.
1 preserved_fish 2019-01-12
Milquetoast is a twenty-five-cent word that everyone seems to think is worth two dollars.
1 error404brain 2019-01-12
t. angery milquetoast centrist
1 preserved_fish 2019-01-12
v. angery, you pinguidinous garbage person
1 error404brain 2019-01-12
I am not fat, I just have a few kg too much. πππ
1 preserved_fish 2019-01-12
It's more fat in the sense of "greasy."
1 error404brain 2019-01-12
Wow, rood.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2019-01-12
πΌππ
1 Herbert-West 2019-01-12
This was spicy bait btw
1 error404brain 2019-01-12
Thanks. Noobody took it sadly.
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2019-01-12
Lol
1 imajustgo 2019-01-12
Hitler himself didn't know what the fuck to be, economically. He was totalitarian right sometimes, he was socialist left sometimes. My enlightened take
1 imajustgo 2019-01-12
That sub posts the same shit over and over
1 Herbert-West 2019-01-12
Smh, why must pinging be banned.
1 Mikeavelli 2019-01-12
So they were typical commies.
1 GeoStarRunner 2019-01-12
What is it with commies and purging their own people?
1 WeirdFlexington 2019-01-12
Idk, but they sure are good at it and I'm not gonna be the one to keep them from doing what they do best!
1 jetblackjelly 2019-01-12
unpopular opinions continues to be a free back-pat zone for guys with no one IRL just looking for a "good job" for popular opinions