If you support free speech, you must support people pinging other users. It's completely legal speech. If you won't defend pinging as free speech because you or someone else finds it disgusting, then no speech that you or anyone else views as disgusting is safe.
if it is in fact on shaky legal ground it's reasonable to not want to be the case that establishes it as illegal.
It's not, The reddit admins are straight up lying to the ignorant (like yourself) to justify their prejudice. Pinging being protected speech has long since been estabilished, as it has undeniable artistic merit. The only time it's been included under any obscenity laws is when someone is being charged with possession of harassment, so the state can slap them with more charges. The courts have been very careful to not charge anyone for pinging, because they'd get their asses fucking annihilated by a higher court due to the firm precedence of pinging being completely legal speech. /r/Drama had nothing to worry about, this guy was just making shit up to fool people into thinking his censoring wasn't entirely personally motivated.
What I don't like is that these public initiatives get pushed raising taxes and cost of living for citizens when the major contributors of climate change are industries like agriculture. If you want to limit climate change start by requiring the dairy, meat, etc industries to meet certain standards that will alleviate the problem, let them raise their prices then let the public decide whether they want to purchase their products
People don’t take enough responsibility for their role in all this. Daddy government can only do so much before people actually have to boycott and strike. Now that’s enough seriousposting for one day.
You've got a point. The big reason the government doesn't do a lot, Dems or Republicans, is because if carbon limits raise prices for your average American they'd be voted out as fast as possible, and you'd even have mass strikes and possibly civil unrest. This is something a lot of people ignore. Just look at the yellow vests in France who are pissed off and rioting due to carbon limits.
I don't doubt, it's just funny that pathetic carbon gas panic and "measures", and "we will all die" running around is literally useless because couple of volcanos farting hard enough might fuck up everything those environmental troglodytes are screaming about.
That and the fact they can't decide between global warming and global cooling.
Except the third article never says anything bad about Trump. It literally point outs how paid leave could lead to biased hiring, and extra steps could be taken to combat this.
You're talking about articles written by the media, 90% of which are beyond retarded. How can you honestly think you can plant your flag on such a pile of shit?
The point is that the two articles seemingly change their stance a few days appart just to oppose trump.
You're picture doesn't show that retard. It's a bury mess that only shows 3 different headlines.
Third article: Family leave is bad.
No, the third article pointed out that without extra steps taken paid leave could lead to people with families not getting hired as much so employers can avoid paying for leave. It just has a clickbair headline in an attempt to get retards like you to actually read it
You're picture doesn't show that retard. It's a bury mess that only shows 3 different headlines.
It also shows archive links and dates.
Or are you too stupid to understand that "May 22, 2017" is a date?
No, the third article pointed out that without extra steps taken paid leave could lead to people with families not getting hired as much so employers can avoid paying for leave. It just has a clickbair headline in an attempt to get retards like you to actually read it
Ah, so it was a complete coincidence that they released a "paid leave bad" article directly after trump supported it, when beforehand they were advocating for paid leave?
Conservatards always complain that the mainstream media doesn't give conservatives a voice but whenever they do publish something more right wing they start screeching about ideological inconsistency 😂😂😂
Trump was anti-war during his campaign. He said he would back off from Syria.
That was a huge fucking lie. He basically handed the command to some other guy and later fired the missiles.
According to you, "the left" would hate this. They did not, they thought Trump did what was right.
Trump supported the Kurds. Again, the left was in full support of this. In fact there are a number of American antifa faggots who literally went to Syria to fight with the Kurds.
2 years later the war is settled and US pulls their troops. This isn't really an anti-interventionist approach though, because he didn't pull the troops until USA/UK/France effectively lost against Syria and Russia. "Teh liberal media" didn't like this as much, but the outcry wasn't as large as it usually is.
MAGAcels are brainlets. Go back to your daddy safespace.
I just tune out when people argue about Global Warming/Climate Change.
It usually boils down to "today's warmest so-and-so day in the past decade! Checkmate deniers" or "today's coldest so-and-so day in the past decade! Checkmate Global Warming/Climate Change!"
Tbh both are fucking retarded. You'd have to be stupid to think humans are having no impact on the planet, and even stupider to think your shitty rant into the echo chambers of reddit will get a single person to change their ways. Speaking of ranting....
I find that those loudest about needing to take action against global warming are almost always complete hypocrites. No amount of virtue signaling will make up for them getting a new phone every 1-2 years, nor the soybased foods they consume (growing soya is absolutely awful for the land), nor the "organic" clusterfuck (which studies have shown is a lot worse for the environment than traditional methods, due to excess water, excess waste and lower yields)
In short, pluck the beam out of your eye before reaching for the splinter in the eye of another. Come, longpost bot, I've rambled all I've wanted to.
I find that those loudest... are almost always complete hypocrites.
FTFY.
People like to harp on virtues, only quietly letting it go when it does not convenient them.
the "organic" clusterfuck (which studies have shown is a lot worse for the environment than traditional methods, due to excess water, excess waste and lower yields)
That so? So the benefit of not using whatever GMO/"bad" fertilizer does not necessarily outweigh the extra hoops we have to jump through?
If you live in a western country, your fertiliser is already safe. Different firms use different methods to be deemed "organic," including using the same pesticide as normal produce, just in smaller quantities
While the value of organic can be debated, and I'm no authority on the matter, I hope it's understandable that fewer pesticides = more fruit lost to insects/ disease = less efficient food production
nor the soybased foods they consume (growing soya is absolutely awful for the land)
I am pretty sure eating meat is the least efficient thing, since animals are fed a ton of crops that we could eat directly (probably not the same crops but use the land to grow something we can eat directly), instead of eating the crops indirectly and inefficiently via meat.
Don't get me wrong I fucking love meat but environmentally it sucks.
But eating the crops efficiently won't lead to less crops consumed as historical trends have shown that increasing food supply always leads to a ballooning population. Growing crops on pasture land can also lead to absolutely horrifying environmental consequences, as seen with China's now-disowned efforts to turn the fields of Inner Mongolia into farmland.
Plants take in carbon dioxide, which they need to survive, through tiny pores in their leaves called stomates. But they also lose water through these same pores every time they open—and the higher the ambient temperature, the more water they lose. Warmer weather can also cause more water to evaporate from dead plants littering the ground.
“A warmer world will have drier fuels,” said Mike Flannigan, director of the Western Partnership for Wildland Fire Science at the University of Alberta in Canada. “Drier fuels will mean it’s easier for fires to start and spread.”
Both arguments are not the same, one side is based on data and science. The other is based on feelings. Like Benny boy says, facts don't care about your feelings.
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1 SnapshillBot 2019-02-03
If you support free speech, you must support people pinging other users. It's completely legal speech. If you won't defend pinging as free speech because you or someone else finds it disgusting, then no speech that you or anyone else views as disgusting is safe.
It's not, The reddit admins are straight up lying to the ignorant (like yourself) to justify their prejudice. Pinging being protected speech has long since been estabilished, as it has undeniable artistic merit. The only time it's been included under any obscenity laws is when someone is being charged with possession of harassment, so the state can slap them with more charges. The courts have been very careful to not charge anyone for pinging, because they'd get their asses fucking annihilated by a higher court due to the firm precedence of pinging being completely legal speech. /r/Drama had nothing to worry about, this guy was just making shit up to fool people into thinking his censoring wasn't entirely personally motivated.
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1 iansmith223 2019-02-03
It's over for global- lwarmingcels
1 MikeStoklasaBackup 2019-02-03
They're climate-change-cels now. It still hasn't begun.
1 iansmith223 2019-02-03
It's over for climate-change-cels.
1 charming_tatum 2019-02-03
I miss the ozonelayerholecels
1 sadderreborn 2019-02-03
Muh CFCs!!!
1 iansmith223 2019-02-03
It's over for aerocels
1 BeersOverQueers 2019-02-03
If you really still doubt climate change the rope can’t come soon enough
1 charming_tatum 2019-02-03
What I don't like is that these public initiatives get pushed raising taxes and cost of living for citizens when the major contributors of climate change are industries like agriculture. If you want to limit climate change start by requiring the dairy, meat, etc industries to meet certain standards that will alleviate the problem, let them raise their prices then let the public decide whether they want to purchase their products
1 BeersOverQueers 2019-02-03
People don’t take enough responsibility for their role in all this. Daddy government can only do so much before people actually have to boycott and strike. Now that’s enough seriousposting for one day.
1 The_Long_Connor 2019-02-03
You've got a point. The big reason the government doesn't do a lot, Dems or Republicans, is because if carbon limits raise prices for your average American they'd be voted out as fast as possible, and you'd even have mass strikes and possibly civil unrest. This is something a lot of people ignore. Just look at the yellow vests in France who are pissed off and rioting due to carbon limits.
1 MikeStoklasaBackup 2019-02-03
Atomic blackpill
1 shaneoffline 2019-02-03
Or find a way to force farmers to sequester more CO2 in the soil and pass the costs on to consumers.
1 Sasukefan99 2019-02-03
I don't doubt it I just don't really care tbf
1 PrebisWizard 2019-02-03
Now this boy is 2 cool 4 school 😼
1 RIPGeorgeHarrison 2019-02-03
If one makes and use smuggies the rope also can't come soon enough.
1 Seattle_Bussy_Lmao 2019-02-03
Northern Africa didn't depopulate itself.
1 Alpha100f 2019-02-03
I don't doubt, it's just funny that pathetic carbon gas panic and "measures", and "we will all die" running around is literally useless because couple of volcanos farting hard enough might fuck up everything those environmental troglodytes are screaming about.
That and the fact they can't decide between global warming and global cooling.
1 AlveolarPressure 2019-02-03
Nobody seriously claims global cooling is a thing
1 caliberoverreaching 2019-02-03
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling
1 capthazelwoodsflask 2019-02-03
Retarded boomer science. It's not been taken seriously since the 90's and even then it was on the way out.
1 caliberoverreaching 2019-02-03
No I know that, but he claimed that it was never a thing .
1 AlveolarPressure 2019-02-03
As in presently
1 Plexipus 2019-02-03
She said "is" a thing not "was never" a thing
1 vtesterlwg 2019-02-03
but also If u believe it rope too. Anyone who gives a shit either way is a mayo so noshit
1 bigberthaboy 2019-02-03
Lol as if our opinions on the matter are changing anything
1 heretobefriends 2019-02-03
>The world is burning
>"Welp, off to convince the fine denizens of /r/smuggies to the cause. Surely that's where I'll find good faith interlocutors."
1 DocMjolnir 2019-02-03
Whatever the truth is, I'm sure it requires 900 trazillion dollars to be invested in this little company over here dont ask questions
1 Plexipus 2019-02-03
Yeah we should prolly just keep burying our head in the sand, feel free to make use of the sand near the coastline
1 DocMjolnir 2019-02-03
Giving them even more money is worse, it smokes when they set it on fire that's not carbon neutral
1 jwil191 2019-02-03
Reddit being so confident is climate change leads me too thinking that it’s a load of bull shit
1 teamsprocket 2019-02-03
Reddit is confident you need to breathe to live, so you should probably reject that too
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-02-03
You can bet your ass if trump came out as pro air then reddit would instantly hate it.
1 d-amazo 2019-02-03
you just set a whole new standard for "retarded shit DDF says"
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-02-03
Shame I'm actually right.
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-02-03
Shame I'm actually right.
1 ElonMuskarr 2019-02-03
Except the third article never says anything bad about Trump. It literally point outs how paid leave could lead to biased hiring, and extra steps could be taken to combat this.
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-02-03
You retarded or what? The point is that the two articles seemingly change their stance a few days appart just to oppose trump.
First article: Everyone should have family leave.
Trump's budget includes family leave
Third article: Family leave is bad.
They started thinking family leave is bad only after trump supported it.
1 shaneoffline 2019-02-03
You're talking about articles written by the media, 90% of which are beyond retarded. How can you honestly think you can plant your flag on such a pile of shit?
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-02-03
Because the media represents it's readers.
1 shaneoffline 2019-02-03
Media represents the producers. You might honestly be dumb.
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-02-03
I'm honestly in awe about how far you're willing to go to defend something that keeps getting proven time and time again.
If you unironically think the left doesen't just try to oppose trump at every turn then I feel sorry for the people who had to endure raising you.
1 shaneoffline 2019-02-03
You are trapped in such a small frame, you can't even comprehend someone at my level lmao
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-02-03
Were you born like this or did you become like this after the accident?
1 shaneoffline 2019-02-03
Which accident?
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-02-03
That actually makes a lot of sense.
Not even nature would make a mistake this big.
1 shaneoffline 2019-02-03
Hey, when you want to find some grounding again, I'm here to slap your around.
At your pleasure
1 ItsSugar 2019-02-03
INFOWARSDOTCOM
1 ElonMuskarr 2019-02-03
You didn't read the article.
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-02-03
You're a moron.
1 ElonMuskarr 2019-02-03
Cope of the illiteratecel.
1 ineedmorealts 2019-02-03
No that's you.
You're picture doesn't show that retard. It's a bury mess that only shows 3 different headlines.
No, the third article pointed out that without extra steps taken paid leave could lead to people with families not getting hired as much so employers can avoid paying for leave. It just has a clickbair headline in an attempt to get retards like you to actually read it
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-02-03
"no u" peak leftism
It also shows archive links and dates.
Or are you too stupid to understand that "May 22, 2017" is a date?
Ah, so it was a complete coincidence that they released a "paid leave bad" article directly after trump supported it, when beforehand they were advocating for paid leave?
ok
1 ineedmorealts 2019-02-03
Exactly retard. No one is doing to fuck around with actually entering those links. If you weren't a mayo you'd have post the actual fucking links
How do you not forget to breath? They never called it bad. They pointed out Trumps plan was poorly thought out, like everything else he does
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-02-03
You don't have you you fucking retard, that's why it also has the titles. So you can read them.
It's almost like they litterally oppose everything he does? Hm... Really makes you think.
1 d-amazo 2019-02-03
lol shut up faggot. take your .pngs elsewhere.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2019-02-03
Oh no, different opinions on the same news site! How terrible!
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-02-03
Different options that seem to to change the instant trump agrees with one of them.
Curious that.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2019-02-03
Well the one that was pro-PFL was written by:
&
While the anti-PFL was written by:
Did you expect them to have the same opinion or something?
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-02-03
I expected the timing between the 3 articles to be less coincidental.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2019-02-03
Imagine looking this hard for a conspiracy. You're legitimately upset at CNN for publishing a conservative op-ed 😂😂😂😂😂😂
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-02-03
Publishing a conservative op-ed directly after trump took a liberal stance.
Almost like they just want to be contrarians or something.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2019-02-03
Is that what Q told you? 🤣🤣🤣
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-02-03
Imagine unironically thinking the only two ideologies on the planet are sjw and qtard
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2019-02-03
No, that would be retarded. You believe in the same loony tunes conspiracies tho, so it was a fair assumption.
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-02-03
Imagine unironically thinking that the left being contrarians to trump is a conspiracy.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2019-02-03
The CATO Institute is "the left"?
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-02-03
It's a real mystery what the left means. Takes a real big brain to figure that one out.
1 AlveolarPressure 2019-02-03
Conservatards always complain that the mainstream media doesn't give conservatives a voice but whenever they do publish something more right wing they start screeching about ideological inconsistency 😂😂😂
1 ElonMuskarr 2019-02-03
Were you not fucking born when Trump fired those 50 missiles? .
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-02-03
Oh right, thanks for reminding me!
Now that trump is anti war the left suddently became pro war.
Trump wants to pull out troops, while the dems want perpetual war.
1 ElonMuskarr 2019-02-03
Trump was anti-war during his campaign. He said he would back off from Syria.
That was a huge fucking lie. He basically handed the command to some other guy and later fired the missiles.
According to you, "the left" would hate this. They did not, they thought Trump did what was right.
Trump supported the Kurds. Again, the left was in full support of this. In fact there are a number of American antifa faggots who literally went to Syria to fight with the Kurds.
2 years later the war is settled and US pulls their troops. This isn't really an anti-interventionist approach though, because he didn't pull the troops until USA/UK/France effectively lost against Syria and Russia. "Teh liberal media" didn't like this as much, but the outcry wasn't as large as it usually is.
MAGAcels are brainlets. Go back to your daddy safespace.
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-02-03
Except now he is trying to pull of syria and and the left is pissed at him for wanting to remove america's involvement.
cope harder pls
1 ElonMuskarr 2019-02-03
Proving my point from the other comment chain; you're an illiteratecel who didn't even read my comment lmao.
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-02-03
Were you born like this or did you become like this after the accident?
1 ElonMuskarr 2019-02-03
Massive cope
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-02-03
Gotcha, accident.
Because not even nature would make a mistake this big.
1 ElonMuskarr 2019-02-03
Nature didn't make us, it was God.
1 d-amazo 2019-02-03
imagine being this fucking retarded.
1 jwil191 2019-02-03
I bet you serious post about net neutrality
1 d-amazo 2019-02-03
1 Tytos_Lannister 2019-02-03
most libs think the earth is round, that seems suspicious...
1 AlveolarPressure 2019-02-03
Reddit is also confident about gravity so why don't you go find a tall building to prove them wrong
1 arandomloser21 2019-02-03
Reddit is wrong about a lot of things, yet you chose the one thing they're right about.
1 retarded4bustin 2019-02-03
Woah we got a big brain over here!
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1 MyFatCatHasLotsofHat 2019-02-03
Oh boy that sub is terrible
1 kingofindia12 2019-02-03
It’s actually pretty funny sometimes, the user base is trash tho
1 Peetrius 2019-02-03
You've just described every community on the internet.
1 Pepperglue 2019-02-03
I just tune out when people argue about Global Warming/Climate Change.
It usually boils down to "today's warmest so-and-so day in the past decade! Checkmate deniers" or "today's coldest so-and-so day in the past decade! Checkmate Global Warming/Climate Change!"
It's all so tiring. We should just go kill more natives to keep the world cool.
1 ReddneckwithaD 2019-02-03
Tbh both are fucking retarded. You'd have to be stupid to think humans are having no impact on the planet, and even stupider to think your shitty rant into the echo chambers of reddit will get a single person to change their ways. Speaking of ranting....
I find that those loudest about needing to take action against global warming are almost always complete hypocrites. No amount of virtue signaling will make up for them getting a new phone every 1-2 years, nor the soybased foods they consume (growing soya is absolutely awful for the land), nor the "organic" clusterfuck (which studies have shown is a lot worse for the environment than traditional methods, due to excess water, excess waste and lower yields)
In short, pluck the beam out of your eye before reaching for the splinter in the eye of another. Come, longpost bot, I've rambled all I've wanted to.
1 Pepperglue 2019-02-03
FTFY.
People like to harp on virtues, only quietly letting it go when it does not convenient them.
That so? So the benefit of not using whatever GMO/"bad" fertilizer does not necessarily outweigh the extra hoops we have to jump through?
1 ReddneckwithaD 2019-02-03
If you live in a western country, your fertiliser is already safe. Different firms use different methods to be deemed "organic," including using the same pesticide as normal produce, just in smaller quantities
While the value of organic can be debated, and I'm no authority on the matter, I hope it's understandable that fewer pesticides = more fruit lost to insects/ disease = less efficient food production
1 Pepperglue 2019-02-03
Huh. Never thought about those.
1 Woolgun 2019-02-03
I am pretty sure eating meat is the least efficient thing, since animals are fed a ton of crops that we could eat directly (probably not the same crops but use the land to grow something we can eat directly), instead of eating the crops indirectly and inefficiently via meat.
Don't get me wrong I fucking love meat but environmentally it sucks.
Agreed with lack of personal responsibility.
1 Shitposting_Skeleton 2019-02-03
But eating the crops efficiently won't lead to less crops consumed as historical trends have shown that increasing food supply always leads to a ballooning population. Growing crops on pasture land can also lead to absolutely horrifying environmental consequences, as seen with China's now-disowned efforts to turn the fields of Inner Mongolia into farmland.
1 capthazelwoodsflask 2019-02-03
A day after it was -5 here it was 45 degrees. What does that mean?
1 Gil-Gandel 2019-02-03
Means it was 50 degrees warmer.
1 UnoriginalStanger 2019-02-03
big if true
1 Alpha100f 2019-02-03
One time there was +5 and -20. The whole fucking outside was like a large skating ring.
1 yourverywelcomedenny 2019-02-03
Once in my house it was 4 then 20 - Seth Rogen
1 capthazelwoodsflask 2019-02-03
Well my basement is about to become a swimming pool, so kind of the same.
1 AlveolarPressure 2019-02-03
It means you live in the shithole midwest
1 capthazelwoodsflask 2019-02-03
It was kind of weird going outside yesterday.
1 flotus_scrotus 2019-02-03
When it’s hot outside, or there’s a hurricane or a fire, leftoids blame global warming
Literally no difference.
Both arguments are retarded
1 kingofindia12 2019-02-03
Well... climate change doesn't cause more hurricanes but it does cause more serious hurricanes. https://www.c2es.org/content/hurricanes-and-climate-change/
As for the the fires, climate change is linked to forest fires. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/heres-what-we-know-about-wildfires-and-climate-change/
Both arguments are not the same, one side is based on data and science. The other is based on feelings. Like Benny boy says, facts don't care about your feelings.
1 flotus_scrotus 2019-02-03
White people were a mistake
1 kingofindia12 2019-02-03
Mayocide now
1 massive_fckwit 2019-02-03
stop serious posting you retard
1 kingofindia12 2019-02-03
Sorry I get triggered by Climate Change deniers
1 massive_fckwit 2019-02-03
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Climate Change Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Coast Like Nigga Move Inland Haha
1 kingofindia12 2019-02-03
But muh beach front property
1 ineedmorealts 2019-02-03
This nearly made me serious post
1 Tenshimaru_tokugawa1 2019-02-03
Man why is such a nice strawman meme concept completely overrun with nazi retards? fuck /r/sbubby