I totally realize most people are going to disagree with me here but I feel compelled to say that closing the sub for a joke wasn't a very kind thing to do. We have seen TONS of posts from vulnerable populations talking about how this sub is a source of support and humor in a dark time. Irony and dirtbagism aside, taking away that support without warning was not okay.
You can say I'm being silly, or humorless or reactionary. Whatever. I love the show and I love this community. But sometimes I come home after dealing with ableism and our nightmare reality all day, and this sub is one of many things that make me feel better. It wasn't a good feeling to find this sub closed for the sake of irony. Maybe that's laughable or pathetic. But for me, it's true.
Nobody can talk about shit nowadays I guess. Let's just bring the social crediting into action. China's already doing it.
I brought up the limits of pedophilia somewhere on my profile once. That obviously means I'm defending pedophilia, and should probably be outcast and my reputation ruined.
No no...I'm NOT being S A R C A S T I C. I REALLY mean it. You totally saw through me, as the pedophile I am. Yep, got a whole wad of harddrives of every child porn imaginable. You got me.
Wait...fallacies? No no...you hit the target first time, my dude. Don't second guess yourself. You saw right through me. You are obviously wiser than me, and with an incredibly sharp acumen at reading people.
No, it's not a fallacy that 'talking for pedophilia, instead of against it means you are a pedophile.' That's the TRUTH. ALL the PEDOS dont want you to know that. Its our weakness, and STRONG you are, brave and willpowered you act, you broke through us by saying it. Fallacy? Naa, thats what pussies say. You BRAVE. Like Batman says 'If there's even a 1% chance hes a threat, we have to take it as an absolute certainty'. You smart.
Oh I brought up science, to defend the limits of fertility and ideas of experience and consent into it. Naa, totally a pathetic and greedy excuse for me to fulfill my lust and usher a new age of pedophilia acceptance.
You got us. You are a worldchanger. Smart people?! Hmmph! Them and their fallacies and evaluating their assumptions. Only a guy like YOU can actually DO SHIT.
Jon is totally a racist. Touching on the subject of African IQ, and considering him a man of wisdom, and forever classfiying and reminding everyone he is a racist, is the right thing. Naa, he's not at a stage of thought, that might require further debate or help on his part, maybe his idealogies are twisted and he needs good honest discussion and further clarification on his morals and beliefs, and if they relate to the discussion.
LOL. NO its NOT a fallacy to assume one can entertain a thought, while not necessarily believing in it. Get out of her ARCHIMEDES, ITS CURRENT YEAR. WE JUDGE THOUGHT AND DECLARE WHAT YOU ARE. entertaining thoughts? wait...the assumption that jon doesnt have to be a racist, but entertaining a discussion on black IQ and considering if race does reflect intelligence and having his ideas, that seem twisted, be put up for public discerning? that he may not actually JUDGE NEW PEOPLE IN HIS LIFE, BASED ON RACIST IDEAS, but can attest to statistics on a whole group, that he does not have experience with? that this whole situation has nuances deeper and further than a 1minute comment posted on reddit can attempt to reflect accurately!!?
naa. he's just racist. and I'm a pedophile. My dad hates gays. My mom is sexist. My sister is xenophobic. My brother is a cuck. My teacher is a rapist. and my uncle is all of them combined. Someone 👏PLEASE👏KILL👏MY👏RACIST👏FAMILY. We dont deserve life. YOU guys are the real good ones. The fighters. The all-knowers. You know what youre talking about. JUST FUCKING STAB ME PUNCH ME, POISON ME, HIV ME, CANCER ME, KISS ME, CUT ME, STEAL MY SUSTENANCE, GIVE ME YOUR GREATEST REVENGE LET US GO TO FUCKIN WAR, CLASH OF IDEALS RIGHT HERE. AND YOU ARE CORRECT BUT I AM A MONSTER JUST FUCKIN SLICE ME ON MY FACE.
/r/buttcoin is unironically pathetic. It's one thing to visit there when crypto is all over the news but these people have a community built around hating something that other people like.
Do you say the same anti MLM communities? Or debunking forums?
Just interested. I frequent r/Buttcoin because after years of mindless hype, it's nice to be around other commenters who see it for what it is, and poke fun at it.
Yes, MLMs are bad but I can't imagine being pathetic enough to form a community around this fact.
Or debunking forums?
I don't know what those are. If it's like recreational fact checking then meh, if it's dedicated to "debunking" the same fact over and over again forever then yeah, pretty lame.
Just interested. I frequent r/Buttcoin because after years of mindless hype, it's nice to be around other commenters who see it for what it is, and poke fun at it.
People in /r/buttcoin tend to be the idiots who are just slightly smarter than the hype junkies in crypto but not smart enough to see where DLT has actual use cases. They're people who are just informed enough to tackle people who aren't informed at all. And by smart I mean "able to regurgitate arguments some else has formulated and parrot them to their echo chamber endlessly".
Well what's important is that you've found a way to feel superior to both.
The vast majority of people are incredibly stupid. Only incredibly sad that you think it's some kind of feat to be better than 2 groups of them.
Yes, MLMs are bad but I can't imagine being pathetic enough to form a community around this fact.
Perhaps you'd like to tell r/antiMLM then, or many of the other groups set up around that sort of stuff.
Uh, sure? Here, to allow /r/antimlm posters here: I find you all pretty much as pathetic as I find /r/buttcoin posters.
And perhaps you'd care to name some of these amazing DLT use cases?
We could tokenize mortgages(or other securitizable assets) on ethereum(or some fork) and associate them to greater tokenized securities to make them more auditable along with plenty of other benefits to loan transparency. You couls further tokenize liens and associate them to the mortgages. A system likw this would reduce the risk of another 2008 style crash.
I see no need for decentralisation or trustlessness in your proposed product there, a database would serve just as well, dispensing with the need for miners too.
You don't understand why you would want the data to not be owned by any one organization after 2008? Are you a complete brainlet? Or how different parties can have absolute and provable chains of ownership over entities while buyers can save hundreds to thousands of dollars on origination costs on buying the assets? Miners aren't necesary for most industry forks of ethereum and it's on ethereums near term road map to dispense with them as well.
See, your weak cookie cutter rebuttal is exactly what I was talking about, so you know are general criticisms that usually work because the people you argue with are hype kiddies that are thenselves only parroting half information but expose how little you actually know when you try to apply them to actual uses of the technology.
Nothing you've said there couldn't be done with a standard database or ledger hosted by a trusted third party, which dispenses with the complexity of any sort of distributed ledger and will necessarily be more cost efficient. There already are trusted third parties involved in anything involving the mainstream finance world, so it's not like this is impossible.
I'm not a 'complete brainlet', no.
Your weak example and poor justification is exactly what always inhabits this space.
Nothing you've said there couldn't be done with a standard database or ledger hosted by a trusted third party,
You mean like the credit agencies? Of course you can simulate the blockchain datastructure, it's just a write only ledger, I've literally built an industrial write only ledger before. But you're completely discounting third party risk, which i guess would be forgivable if you're not familiar with the mortgage industry if it didn't in part cause the greatest recession since the great depression. Most of the proposed use cases can be shot down as being better solved by centrally controlled servers, which is why you're parroting the counter, someone smarter than you came up with it and you think you can apply it to every DLT that you don't actually understand. You'd have discounted the internet because we alread have WANs
which dispenses with the complexity of any sort of distributed ledger and will necessarily be more cost efficient.
Server cost pales in comparison to third party risk, it's not because of fear of server cost that a central ledger for loans doesn't exist.
There already are trusted third parties involved in anything involving
You literally have no idea what you're talking about.
I'm not a 'complete brainlet', no.
t. Brainlet
Without miners you need some way to secure the network, with financial incentives like Proof Of Stake, if it's public and not permissioned. If it's permissioned or private, a DLT is unnecessary overhead.
Don't explain consensus protocols to me. Proof of stake is possible the future but I wouldn't count out corporate permissioned networks like quorum where all stakeholders would run nodes and have auditable proof of any fuckery by a Sybil attack.
Your weak example and poor justification is exactly what always inhabits this space. You think you're new, different and smart, but you've just spouted the same crap as any other blockchain proponent.
You're basically an NPC. EY, Microsoft and JPMC have all made substantial investments in DLT development, what exactly gives you any authority in these matters beyond being able to tell the obvious that lambo memers are stupid?
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1 SnapshillBot 2019-02-04
I totally realize most people are going to disagree with me here but I feel compelled to say that closing the sub for a joke wasn't a very kind thing to do. We have seen TONS of posts from vulnerable populations talking about how this sub is a source of support and humor in a dark time. Irony and dirtbagism aside, taking away that support without warning was not okay.
You can say I'm being silly, or humorless or reactionary. Whatever. I love the show and I love this community. But sometimes I come home after dealing with ableism and our nightmare reality all day, and this sub is one of many things that make me feel better. It wasn't a good feeling to find this sub closed for the sake of irony. Maybe that's laughable or pathetic. But for me, it's true.
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1 Mat_The_49th 2019-02-04
Nobody can talk about shit nowadays I guess. Let's just bring the social crediting into action. China's already doing it.
I brought up the limits of pedophilia somewhere on my profile once. That obviously means I'm defending pedophilia, and should probably be outcast and my reputation ruined.
No no...I'm NOT being S A R C A S T I C. I REALLY mean it. You totally saw through me, as the pedophile I am. Yep, got a whole wad of harddrives of every child porn imaginable. You got me.
Wait...fallacies? No no...you hit the target first time, my dude. Don't second guess yourself. You saw right through me. You are obviously wiser than me, and with an incredibly sharp acumen at reading people.
No, it's not a fallacy that 'talking for pedophilia, instead of against it means you are a pedophile.' That's the TRUTH. ALL the PEDOS dont want you to know that. Its our weakness, and STRONG you are, brave and willpowered you act, you broke through us by saying it. Fallacy? Naa, thats what pussies say. You BRAVE. Like Batman says 'If there's even a 1% chance hes a threat, we have to take it as an absolute certainty'. You smart.
Oh I brought up science, to defend the limits of fertility and ideas of experience and consent into it. Naa, totally a pathetic and greedy excuse for me to fulfill my lust and usher a new age of pedophilia acceptance.
You got us. You are a worldchanger. Smart people?! Hmmph! Them and their fallacies and evaluating their assumptions. Only a guy like YOU can actually DO SHIT.
Jon is totally a racist. Touching on the subject of African IQ, and considering him a man of wisdom, and forever classfiying and reminding everyone he is a racist, is the right thing. Naa, he's not at a stage of thought, that might require further debate or help on his part, maybe his idealogies are twisted and he needs good honest discussion and further clarification on his morals and beliefs, and if they relate to the discussion.
LOL. NO its NOT a fallacy to assume one can entertain a thought, while not necessarily believing in it. Get out of her ARCHIMEDES, ITS CURRENT YEAR. WE JUDGE THOUGHT AND DECLARE WHAT YOU ARE. entertaining thoughts? wait...the assumption that jon doesnt have to be a racist, but entertaining a discussion on black IQ and considering if race does reflect intelligence and having his ideas, that seem twisted, be put up for public discerning? that he may not actually JUDGE NEW PEOPLE IN HIS LIFE, BASED ON RACIST IDEAS, but can attest to statistics on a whole group, that he does not have experience with? that this whole situation has nuances deeper and further than a 1minute comment posted on reddit can attempt to reflect accurately!!?
naa. he's just racist. and I'm a pedophile. My dad hates gays. My mom is sexist. My sister is xenophobic. My brother is a cuck. My teacher is a rapist. and my uncle is all of them combined. Someone 👏PLEASE👏KILL👏MY👏RACIST👏FAMILY. We dont deserve life. YOU guys are the real good ones. The fighters. The all-knowers. You know what youre talking about. JUST FUCKING STAB ME PUNCH ME, POISON ME, HIV ME, CANCER ME, KISS ME, CUT ME, STEAL MY SUSTENANCE, GIVE ME YOUR GREATEST REVENGE LET US GO TO FUCKIN WAR, CLASH OF IDEALS RIGHT HERE. AND YOU ARE CORRECT BUT I AM A MONSTER JUST FUCKIN SLICE ME ON MY FACE.
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1 notcyberpope 2019-02-04
That's a lot of words explaining how hes a pedophile
1 aqouta 2019-02-04
/r/buttcoin is unironically pathetic. It's one thing to visit there when crypto is all over the news but these people have a community built around hating something that other people like.
1 SaltyPockets 2019-02-04
Do you say the same anti MLM communities? Or debunking forums?
Just interested. I frequent r/Buttcoin because after years of mindless hype, it's nice to be around other commenters who see it for what it is, and poke fun at it.
1 aqouta 2019-02-04
Yes, MLMs are bad but I can't imagine being pathetic enough to form a community around this fact.
I don't know what those are. If it's like recreational fact checking then meh, if it's dedicated to "debunking" the same fact over and over again forever then yeah, pretty lame.
People in /r/buttcoin tend to be the idiots who are just slightly smarter than the hype junkies in crypto but not smart enough to see where DLT has actual use cases. They're people who are just informed enough to tackle people who aren't informed at all. And by smart I mean "able to regurgitate arguments some else has formulated and parrot them to their echo chamber endlessly".
1 SaltyPockets 2019-02-04
Well what's important is that you've found a way to feel superior to both.
Perhaps you'd like to tell r/antiMLM then, or many of the other groups set up around that sort of stuff.
1 aqouta 2019-02-04
The vast majority of people are incredibly stupid. Only incredibly sad that you think it's some kind of feat to be better than 2 groups of them.
Uh, sure? Here, to allow /r/antimlm posters here: I find you all pretty much as pathetic as I find /r/buttcoin posters.
We could tokenize mortgages(or other securitizable assets) on ethereum(or some fork) and associate them to greater tokenized securities to make them more auditable along with plenty of other benefits to loan transparency. You couls further tokenize liens and associate them to the mortgages. A system likw this would reduce the risk of another 2008 style crash.
1 SaltyPockets 2019-02-04
Cool, so you've just shown us that you think very highly of yourself, and that your opinions are pretty worthless.
1 aqouta 2019-02-04
You don't understand why you would want the data to not be owned by any one organization after 2008? Are you a complete brainlet? Or how different parties can have absolute and provable chains of ownership over entities while buyers can save hundreds to thousands of dollars on origination costs on buying the assets? Miners aren't necesary for most industry forks of ethereum and it's on ethereums near term road map to dispense with them as well.
See, your weak cookie cutter rebuttal is exactly what I was talking about, so you know are general criticisms that usually work because the people you argue with are hype kiddies that are thenselves only parroting half information but expose how little you actually know when you try to apply them to actual uses of the technology.
1 SaltyPockets 2019-02-04
Nothing you've said there couldn't be done with a standard database or ledger hosted by a trusted third party, which dispenses with the complexity of any sort of distributed ledger and will necessarily be more cost efficient. There already are trusted third parties involved in anything involving the mainstream finance world, so it's not like this is impossible.
I'm not a 'complete brainlet', no.
Your weak example and poor justification is exactly what always inhabits this space.
1 aqouta 2019-02-04
You mean like the credit agencies? Of course you can simulate the blockchain datastructure, it's just a write only ledger, I've literally built an industrial write only ledger before. But you're completely discounting third party risk, which i guess would be forgivable if you're not familiar with the mortgage industry if it didn't in part cause the greatest recession since the great depression. Most of the proposed use cases can be shot down as being better solved by centrally controlled servers, which is why you're parroting the counter, someone smarter than you came up with it and you think you can apply it to every DLT that you don't actually understand. You'd have discounted the internet because we alread have WANs
Server cost pales in comparison to third party risk, it's not because of fear of server cost that a central ledger for loans doesn't exist.
You literally have no idea what you're talking about.
t. Brainlet
Don't explain consensus protocols to me. Proof of stake is possible the future but I wouldn't count out corporate permissioned networks like quorum where all stakeholders would run nodes and have auditable proof of any fuckery by a Sybil attack.
You're basically an NPC. EY, Microsoft and JPMC have all made substantial investments in DLT development, what exactly gives you any authority in these matters beyond being able to tell the obvious that lambo memers are stupid?
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