I think the Green New Deal is an absolute necessity we need to start acting on now, and anyone who disagrees with me is a short-sighted loser idiot
1 2019-02-14 by ztoundas
The text, for reference. its 14 pages of double spaced text, put down the fentanyl long enough to read it.
Either we start working on this now, or in 20 to 50 years will be paying for it anyway and we'll have already wasted time sitting on our ass.
Anyone who's worked on a roof in the summer can get a good idea of what have bitch it'll be to slap up solar panels after temps have risen several more degrees.
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1 SnapshillBot 2019-02-14
I need people to stop banning my lolis. That's all I need! Just let me be with my drawings. Let me enjoy cute happy anime lolis that are so full of love and affection. That let me forget about this horrible world and the shitty people in it. Is that so hard to ask for? Why are people so fucking hell bent on banning lolis? What do they or society gain? I don't like scary slasher movies about people murdering people(illegal BTW). But I don't call for them to be banned nor insult those that enjoy them. One of the few things in life that makes me happy. Little glimmers of joy in my shit life and they fucking ban it because they want to make an extra buck fron ad investors.
Maybe there's a reason why people want these pure, perfect maidens? Could it be that the real world is filled with darwinistic people? Filled with murder, drugs, deasise, genocide, virtue signalling, inequality, false politicians, false ronance, bullies, ect. Where everyone is out to push eachother down to get on top? Yea, no wonder people are so eager to want something better.
Is it really difficult for people to mind their own business? If you don't harm anyone, why ban it?
You know. What about GTA that glorifies crime and actually hurts people in the real world with predatory microtransactions? What about rape fantasies? What about guro? What about furry porn? What if she's canonlly legal age? What about girls that look mature but are underage(Ikkitousen, HSoTD)? What about all that incest porn on pornhub? That's illegal IRL but no one is harping to ban that. What about r/trees? A sub dedicated to glorifying marijuana but one problem...weed has been and still is illegal and classified as a class1 drug in the US. Or the sub that literally shows real kids being killed. Or all those propaganda and ad shilling? But no one bans that!
BUT BAN THE LOLIS!!!!!
IF. PEOPLE. JUST. STOPPED. BANNING. LOLIS. I'LL. BE. HAPPY
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1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
For all the rightoids, consider this: where the fuck do you think all the brown people are going to move when their deserts become too hot for him?
1 geeses 2019-02-14
Into range of the automated machine guns?
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
Clearly you've never seen a poc tunnel before
1 geeses 2019-02-14
You mean the self constructing gas chambers?
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
Gottem there
1 tathrowaway666 2019-02-14
6 feet under?
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
nope try again
1 tathrowaway666 2019-02-14
Right behind me if you know what I’m sayin 😎😎😏😏😉
1 Zozbot 2019-02-14
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1 AsianVinylEnthusiast 2019-02-14
Lmao darkies don't move, that requires effort. They just fester and complain about how it's wypipo's fault.
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
Tell that to southern europe
1 AsianVinylEnthusiast 2019-02-14
Roaches aren't darkies.
1 Lokamayadon 2019-02-14
Mayocide FIRST, that's all we centrists are asking for.
1 stereomono1 2019-02-14
We need to encourage our wives to breed with strong masculine black bulls while we watch, and anyone who disagrees with me has a small dick.
1 Lokamayadon 2019-02-14
inchallah!
1 BrokenConditioning 2019-02-14
dude weed lmao
1 boyoyoyoyong 2019-02-14
It's like they elected a high school freshman to congress. This is the greatest timeline
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
Honestly I'm not kidding. We are genuinely fucked already, we really do have to get started on something if we want to mitigate damage.
This outline of goals is genuinely fucking important
1 FRANK_INJURY 2019-02-14
We are supposed to destroy the earth it’s our job as parasites.
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
Well we are shitty parasites because at least a tapeworm cums in your shit before it dies so new tapeworms can hatch in whomever eats that shit later.
1 iansmith223 2019-02-14
Go preach somewhere else you annoying faggot.
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
no
1 tHeSiD 2019-02-14
Are you gay for earth bro? Lol imagine caring about stupid trees and shit.. They grow from the ground lmao, it's survival of the fittest!
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
Extremely, but that's not the point.
The planet doesn't give a shit about us. It'll be perfectly fine without us. We won't win this battle if we keep this up.
1 Oh_hamburgers_ 2019-02-14
It's already over for earthcels. Permafrost is disappearing, methane is leaking as a result of that which causes more permafrost to disappear, etc etc. Just enjoy your life, the time to act on this was decades ago. We botched it.
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
It's only practically impossible because we aren't trying.
1 Oh_hamburgers_ 2019-02-14
For every step forward we take Asia brings us 5 steps backwards. It literally doesn't matter, our only chance was to withhold western technology from the rest of the world but we put it everywhere.
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
China is going to totally overtake us because at least it's trying to cash in on green tech.
1 Oh_hamburgers_ 2019-02-14
They're going to overtake us because they're a homogeneous country whose leaders care about the long term good of their people rather than scoring minor political points here and there while sacrificing the long term health of their nation. Also they teach their kids useful skills and don't bog them down with useless shit like we do.
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
ok chinacel nice flex
1 Oh_hamburgers_ 2019-02-14
Gtfo I'm a potato eating mick bastard. Doesn't change the fact they're working for the future of their people while we sputter around aimlessly.
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
No you're right. Their weird nationalistic totalitarian-capitalism will ultimately keep them on top probably.
1 Oh_hamburgers_ 2019-02-14
Our only hope is that they embrace the most sacred act in all of Chinese history, breaking up into rival groups and killing other Chinese people.
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
nah, they'll invade russia. It'll be a lex luthor situation, securing shitty land now so when it warms up a bit more it'll be prime real estate.
1 Oh_hamburgers_ 2019-02-14
Would be interesting to see. Two nations hostile to the US going at it with modern weaponry? Sign me up.
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
it'd be the only good thing to come out of global warming tbh
1 Ultrashitposter 2019-02-14
Nah he's right. Diversity is a bad thing for a nation and sucking up to minorities won't get you anywhere. Nothing to gain from it.
That being said, China is going to have a really bad demographic crash pretty soon, so them 'overtaking us' is thus far just a pipedream.
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
hardly, the cloning vats for fresh meat and euthanasia tanks for old people will be wheeled out at any moment now
1 d-amazo 2019-02-14
literally the only thing that can fix the problem at this point is if like 85% of the planet's human population dies.
as in right this minute.
and even then humans are still probably fucked.
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
Not really, we could slow the rate of warming with aerosols at first as we work on better carbon capture methods.
Plenty of damage is still going to happen, but it's still within the realm of possibilities.
Anything less will just result in full-on disaster.
1 d-amazo 2019-02-14
the amount we need to reduce is so astronomically large compared to the population that it's literally impossible to cut back enough while still maintaining quality of life.
the only option is extinction. the planet has already figured this out.
it's like when you get a fever, it's to kill the viruses inside of you that can't handle the heat.
climate change is the fever. we are the virus.
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
Reducing output is only half the equation, though. If we also implement carbon capture techniques, we'll be fine.
1 d-amazo 2019-02-14
lol no.
sorry bud but the human race is beyond saving. it's too little, too late.
i've given you the information, all that's left is for you to accept it.
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
ok buy how about a lot just a little late?
1 d-amazo 2019-02-14
it's not "just a little late."
it's been too late for like 30 years, my dude. like the guy at the top of the thread said, the time to act on this was decades ago. the permafrost layer has been depleting ridiculously.
you do know what the PERMA in PERMAFROST means, right? it ain't comin' back.
this is the equivalent of pissing on the embers after the forest is already burnt down.
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
Ok I don't know how serious you want to get, but I do know about permafrost extremely well. I work with a few scientists who actually actively research it. I also, incidentally, used to live in Alaska for the first half of my life. I typically write most that off though because I was living with my conspiracy-minded parents building a bunker for Y2K at the time.
I read as much scientific literature on climate change as I can, I have been since the late 90s. This is one of those things that I'm terrified of genuinely, and feel confident enough in my understanding of it.
The decline in permafrost is very bad. But permafrost can come back the moment temperatures stick around to a certain range. The threat of the 'methane-bomb' is not entirely certain in regards to the time range of its heating effects. Furthermore, if we started working as hard as possible at mitigating CO2 output and drastically ramp-up carbon sequestration efforts, the methane bomb could be kept to merely a short-term spike in temperatures. Methane is a short-lived GG. It could also be mitigated with a burst of aerosols, which also have similarly short term effects, but a cooling one.
1 d-amazo 2019-02-14
so you are not a scientist and you are not the one who researches it.
the fuck does this have to do with anything? alaska is not the only place that has permafrost
oh my god shut the fuck up and get to the point you boring faggot, stopped reading.
tl;dr you're a faggot.
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
Yes, I'm familiar, and you've misrepresented it.
While you are wrong, at least I got the drama I crave
1 dmcc1357 2019-02-14
here’s a lawyer explaining why it’s retarded can’t be bothered to find when he starts talking about it
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
That guy is an idiot. He's not got even a basic understanding of what's going on.
1 dmcc1357 2019-02-14
He literally goes through the proposal retard
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
I know, I just heard it, he's an idiot and either intentionally misconstruing the matter or doing so out of ignorance.
1 dmcc1357 2019-02-14
You found when he starts talking about it and listened to the 30mins he spends talking about in 15mins lmao. Then you claim a lawyer doesn’t understand the law.
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
I didn't say he didn't understand the law, he's just an idiot. He might be an total legal genius, but as he read through the green deal he had zero idea about the realities laid out.
If you listen to that guy and think hes right (or at least about how he represented the GND), you are also an idiot.
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1 dmcc1357 2019-02-14
“That guy is an idiot. He's not got even a basic understanding of what's going on.”
“I didn’t say he didn’t understand the law”
The green new deal is a proposal for law so you saying he can’t understand it means you are saying he can’t understand a proposal for a law.
“Edit: though maybe it’s an act, a whole lot of fellow idiots paid him money during the 30mins I’ve seen” I know right the guy is being shill for 30-40 bucks he got donated in that time. The guy who runs a law firm which only consists of him is totally in it for the money.
And are you going to explain how you watched a 30min segment in like 15mins
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
Ok you opened my eyes. He is an idiot in regards to the law, as well, based off his performance in that video.
Maybe acting like an idiotic performer is just his hobby, who knows.
1 actualstrawman 2019-02-14
We could start protecting the environment by cutting down on the font size and maybe using slightly larger margins next time.
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
Well she had to make sure the rest of congress could read it, aging eye's and all.
1 actualstrawman 2019-02-14
Isn't that why they have unpaid interns?
1 ManBearFridge 2019-02-14
Have you taken up the mantel of pizzashill?
1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-02-14
I agree with the GND in principle but there are some massive holes in it.
Ignoring nuclear is a terrible idea. Solar and wind are nowhere near the levels of energy output nuclear can provide. Even worse the guarantee of UBI to people not willing to work. I understand increasing supports for people who can't work, but any proposal for people who refuse to work is fucking ridiculous. NEETs should be killed not coddled.
There wasnt enough in the document regarding scientific funding too.
1 ztoundas 2019-02-14
While they don't exclude nuclear power, I'm not super bummed by it. The problem with nuclear power plants in the context of this deal is that they take a long time to build, their LCOE isn't dropping at the same rapid rate as renewable energies, and they get more dangerous as the plant's age. Then you have the issue with nuclear waste, which isn't a simple problem either. They also carry that little level of risk that, while improbable, anyone plant can have a catastrophic failure with implications far wider than if any renewable energy plant failed.
I would have liked to have seen something about Research into safer forms of nuclear power like thorium salts or whatever, but still renewable energy is feasible today without nuclear power. Decentralized energy storage solutions and high voltage DC power lines help distribute the irregular power of common renewable energies.
Luckily, the legislative bill didn't mention anything about those unwilling to work, because that would be a bizarre addition. I don't know what's up with that, but it's not part of the official deal so whatever.