He Was Part of a Twitter Mob That Attacked Young Adult Novelists. Then It Turned on Him.

272  2019-02-28 by HadakaApron

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I need people to stop banning my lolis. That's all I need! Just let me be with my drawings. Let me enjoy cute happy anime lolis that are so full of love and affection. That let me forget about this horrible world and the shitty people in it. Is that so hard to ask for? Why are people so fucking hell bent on banning lolis? What do they or society gain? I don't like scary slasher movies about people murdering people(illegal BTW). But I don't call for them to be banned nor insult those that enjoy them. One of the few things in life that makes me happy. Little glimmers of joy in my shit life and they fucking ban it because they want to make an extra buck fron ad investors.

Maybe there's a reason why people want these pure, perfect maidens? Could it be that the real world is filled with darwinistic people? Filled with murder, drugs, deasise, genocide, virtue signalling, inequality, false politicians, false ronance, bullies, ect. Where everyone is out to push eachother down to get on top? Yea, no wonder people are so eager to want something better.

Is it really difficult for people to mind their own business? If you don't harm anyone, why ban it?

You know. What about GTA that glorifies crime and actually hurts people in the real world with predatory microtransactions? What about rape fantasies? What about guro? What about furry porn? What if she's canonlly legal age? What about girls that look mature but are underage(Ikkitousen, HSoTD)? What about all that incest porn on pornhub? That's illegal IRL but no one is harping to ban that. What about r/trees? A sub dedicated to glorifying marijuana but one problem...weed has been and still is illegal and classified as a class1 drug in the US. Or the sub that literally shows real kids being killed. Or all those propaganda and ad shilling? But no one bans that!

BUT BAN THE LOLIS!!!!!

IF. PEOPLE. JUST. STOPPED. BANNING. LOLIS. I'LL. BE. HAPPY

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This, but I need people to stop banning my young adult fiction.

This but unsnapronically.

That's when the cannibalism started.

“What was that?”

"Another day in long fat man history"

Where were you when Kosoko Jackson was kill

Outside Kosovo fuckin dudes.

no

I'm really not pleased with their output over the past six months or so. They take on a really squeamish, pearl-clutching character when describing "real life" serial killers instead of cryptids. I vastly preferred the show when Henry would continue to be funny - you now, like a comedian - even in the "heavy hitters" episodes.

I miss the good detective though :(

What are you people talking about?

Last Podcast on the Left. It's a fun, morbid comedy podcast about conspiracies, monsters and serial killers. Over the past year, they've really toned down the morbid humor and started acting like they're genuinely upset about the topic they're discussing (and research for a month at a time).

Oh, a couple summers ago I started listening to them from the beginning. Looks like I listened up to...lemme check...episode 232, Bigfoot Hunters, from July 13 2016.

So did they go woke or something?

Not fully, but they're now writing to attract those listeners, unfortunately.

It feels like they've started appealing hard to the true crime demographic when the podcast's original appeal was that it wasn't just another true crime podcast; it was a comedy podcast about weird scary shit.

It also has recently felt like they've tried to make it more of a general and serious Dan Carlin-style of show (esp. since the Jonestown and Rasputin episodes) at the expense of the comedic element, which has kind of ruined my enjoyment of the newest crop of episodes. The older ones are still cash though.

I think they peaked with the Pee Wee Gaskins episode. And that's the final truth!

THANK you! Can't have a show with three Marcuses.

They cover a ton of shit, there will be some misses. The old Hong Kong Henry zebrowski, borderline incel Kissel shit is still available for free if you want it. Human beings maturing happens. I do agree that they’re not focusing as much on cryptids and aliens as they used too but I would never fault the boys for getting money. Can you imagine being Marcus and going all the way to Lubbock Texas to get a degree in radio? They need to endow a fucking professorship in his name after what he’s done with LPN

I don't think neutering is the same thing as maturing. But it's easy to think that when you're told there's only one acceptable way to think.

Also I never got an "incel" vibe from Kissel. He's just a friendly Midwestern oaf. We should all be so lucky to know one. And I certainly agree about Marcus. He's built a nice little empire. Excellent researcher and producer, but as the cutesy one, he's irritating.

I’m going to irritate your mouth with an extra large knuckle sandwich fugee

Go clutch your pearls about it with the "new" LPotL.

Clutch deez nuts

All need you know about YA fiction is that it's mostly consumed by adult women.

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Bye nerd 👋 🤓

How the fuck am I gonna hack a console with this??

TBH I hope that in my lifetime, scientist learn how to turn adult men into lolis.

100% with you on that one, friend

Don’t give up on Chris Chan.

adult women are notorious for writing fan fiction, reading young adult novels, and consume shotacon.

They got a lot of time on their hands as housewives in the 21st century

Tfw no /lit/ gf

Fucking spooks

how 2 explain mommy gf preference to peopel its srsly not about ur own mom pls bros

it's video games for her

Well, Young Adult Women Novels seem to have a fitting acronym.

It’s consumed by fat women in cheap knits as they fart into chairs while waiting to see their fibromyalgia specialist.

>Jackson is black and gay—this matters here, a lot—and was preparing for the release of his debut young adult novel, A Place for Wolves, an adventure-romance between two young men set against the backdrop of the Kosovo War. "Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe meets Code Name Verity in this heartbreaking and poignant story of survival,"

just end humanity for fucks sake

that sounds pretty fucking gay

Everyone knows the Kosovo War deeeeply affect the black community

Is there even a single black person in all of Serbia?

wait a second. This is the Author of "Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe"?

That was a great book! Thats what they are doing this over?

i dont think so, but i know nothing about ya

Its not, nevermind. He was just using it as an example. You had my outrage meter peeking for a moment.

History will place Jesse Singal in the same category as Trump, Bannon, the KKK, Neo-Nazis, and all the other bigots currently coasting on the media's obsession with humanizing some of the worst meat sacks to ever tumble into existence.

Perhaps a slight exaggeration?

Who are these people? Like where do they hang out? If I ever ran into someone like this, I'd die laughing.

Like where do they hang out?

In Portland somewhere around 30th & Division. 😒

Seattle, San Francisco, Berkeley.....

Toronto..

https://imgur.com/a/IE5huzZ

As if I give a shit

I got unbanned not long after being auto-banned. I wonder if this'll get me banned again for the same reason.

Yikes, sweaty, you should know Jesse Singal is guilty of writing articles about trannies that don't 100% follow the "so-extremely-online-and-woke-I-don't-sleep" consensus, therefore he's basically Hitler.

There's a recent case where he got shit on for being creepy because he screenshotted some DM conversation... to defend himself against accusations.

The guy's sort of a lolcow himself because he can't stop tweeting and has some weird opinions (the famous "Straight dudes are fucking their male friends but it's not gay because they say no homo" article for example) but the way he makes everyone lose it over mildest bullshit is delicious.

He's one of my faves. He also royally pissed off KIA during gamergate so he's been at this for a while.

It is kind of funny that this article could basically just have been written about Singal himself.

Has he ever been part of an online mob himself?

Depends if you consider "anti-GG" a mob.

Well, I don't. Anyway, the article he wrote was about how journalists could smell some of the BS GG was slinging around. https://www.thecut.com/2014/10/gamergate-should-stop-lying-to-itself.html

I don't know how that's part of being a mob or harassing anyone. He was actually kind of right about a lot of the things he was saying.

He's right about the gamergators using "ethics" as a shield to hide what they're really motivated by. But then he goes on to suggest that "games journalists" are real journalists who have ethics, which is a joke. There's only one standard that they're held up to. It's that anyone who goes against groupthink, whether it's political or about the quality of a game, gets purged.

Mfw gamergators show up to downvote this without replying. When you do this you're exactly the same as SRDines and you're gonna get caught up in the same net when the day of the trawler comes.

SRDines love responding. Performative wokeness.

Calling normal people a mob is a broad brush to paint with 🤓🔫🙎‍♂️

Demographic dehumanization is problematic y’all

also

Fuck the media for humanizing our enemies

I have a question. Why is a man wearing a shirt that says "Genius at work" reading a book intended for high schoolers?

Jesse Singal is the next coming of David Duke and George Lincoln Rockwell in the same persons.

Young adult literature fire when?

Womp womp

lol TWEET GANG

It should be the recognition that these online social dynamics will constrain and distort young adult literature in unfortunate ways.

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The absolute state of buzzfeed-era journalism

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HEY HOW ABOUT WE DONT PROMOTE OR SUPPORT BOOKS ABOUT A ROMANCE BETWEEN AND THE VICTIMIZATION OF 2 AMERICANS, SET DURING A REAL LIFE HISTORICAL GENOCIDE WHERE THE VILLAIN IS PART OF THE DEMOGRAPHIC THAT WAS ETHNICALLY CLEANSED

how do i submit this as a new snappy quote?

Yeah, but change books to pings and Americans to SRDines.

I thought that was that weird just cool guy

Anyone with access to the wiki can do it.

"Young-adult books are being targeted in intense social media callouts, draggings, and pile-ons—sometimes before anybody's even read them," Vulture's Kat Rosenfield wrote in the definitive must-read piece on this strange and angry internet community. The call-outs, draggings, and pile-ons almost always involve claims that books are insensitive with regard to their treatment of some marginalized group, and the specific charges, as Rosenfield showed convincingly, often don't seem to warrant the blowups they spark—when they make any sense at all.

Makes perfect sense when you consider many people involved are adults who refuse to let go of childhood

And the rest are actual children being led by them

I read some other article about this. Everyone bitching is like 20-40 years old lmao. The actual kids the books are aimed at have to retreat to random forums and shit. If they say anything positive about the books on twitter, some 32 year old with pink hair will call them a bigot. Twitter was a mistake tbh. It's time to nuke it

What is being an adult if not just trying to recapture the joy of your childhood.

Lol, I agree, it's like the quest for El Dorado. Or maybe the fountain of youth

But for the ones like twitter mob who really think it, I'd ask them what's the point of childhood if adults refuse to get out of the kiddy pool?

I'd also ask since when was childhood about being a miserable cynical vindictive cunt?

it really explains japan

I dunno. I recapture it by buying a random Funko Pop and finding an old PlayStation on Craigslist.

Why, old sport, of course you can.

Nice keyboard

uhhhhhhhh he cancelled his book you fucking bigot

those replies.

what world do these people inhabit

I learned about this pretty fast as someone who writes screenplays for fun. I gave a writer detailed feedback on his script on a screenplay site. I pointed out 10 different things and went through the script scene by scene. He told me he disagreed with me and that he felt his script was great already, he didn't plan to change anything. Then another person gave the writer feedback on some minor gender issue. It was about there not being a certain type of female character in the script doing a certain thing. As it was problematic not having those events happen. And suddenly the writer, who just told me to go jump in a lake, apologized profusely and nearly begged for forgiveness and said he would never ever do such a thing again and would rewrite his whole script right away.

You can tell a reviewer to go fuck himself easily. But you cannot do the same if the reviewer points out that kind of "problematic" stuff. Because if you do that the reviewer will take his complaint to some social media site.

How can people see shit like that and think “I want to get on board with that.”

Power is a hell of a drug

Honestly if you cancel your book because of mean twatter comments, that's on you

The commies called that a struggle session.

I doubt most people would agree that it's inherently unacceptable to write a story centered around characters of a certain identity in the context of a tragedy perpetrated against people with another identity.

Twitter says otherwise

anyone who describes themselves as a fan of "YA fiction" is emotionally stunted and whenever you try to point out how trash their favorite genre is, they'll just hit you with the same cs lewis quote that originated from a man born in a time where people in their twenties didn't use the word "adulting"

they are intentionally consuming garbage

If their target audience is bored mayo housewives in America, that'd explain dumbing down.

All the old highbrow novels were always written for an audience of ladies. Just smarter ones, I guess.

You're basically just like Voldemort.

What’s the cs Lewis quote?

“A children's story that can only be enjoyed by children is not a good children's story in the slightest.” ― C.S. Lewis

Ignoring, of course, stories that are not enjoyed by children in the first place.

So the story is about two based Serbian kebab deporters that find love in one another's bussy in the midst of their glorious campaign? Sounds good to me.

If it wasn't young adult and therefore garbage I would be 100% behind this, basic plot sounds great.

no, two Americans

Why would you use Twitter as an adult, its not going to do you any good.

Why do people use twitter for things besides sharing porn and illustrations?

To advertise a side hustle. The thread's participants giving the guy attaboys for not publishing his book are all young adult authors themselves using their twitter accounts to advertise their own content.

To be fair, if you wrote a book set during WWII and the villain turned out to be an evil rabbi, it probably would get some negative reactions.

Really we should be doing better by now. If you didn't die of AIDS in the 1980s then you 👏 can't 👏 write 👏 about 👏 AIDS. Why is this so hard to get?

> the villain turned out to be an evil rabbi

Just like in real life.

You have to go back

Out

OUT

OUT!

i appreciate that the sheer lack of social skills that it requires to moderate a forum make you not much more than a robot, but can we get the actual bot back for this function?

The actual mods gave me this as a meme, I'm not a mod lol

i'm not sure if that makes you more or less sad

not being a /r/drama mod is always a good thing

tbh this seems a bit more understandable than most YA spergouts, as his book was likely maximum burger-tier or something along those lines

if you wrote a book set during WWII and the villain turned out to be an evil rabbi

That's just called "nonfiction" tho.

JEWS DID THE HOLOCAUST

WAKE UP SHEEPLE

INFOWARS DOT COM

Like the last one that got cancelled I bet this is spearheaded by the same white woman who is a YA author with a book coming out.

Live by the woke, die by the woke.

Most underrated comment, right here....

Twitter has overall decreased the quality of human existence

I just cant follow these stories

Like I get three paragraphs in and my brain just turns to mush

Wtf does any of this mean or why should I remotely care?

Its like if someone wrote a story about a random reddit thread that no one really cared about. Why would I read it?

Twitterati

lol, ok

Hmmm canceling books seems even worse than burning them.

I unironically agree with them. What fucking retard thought it was a good idea to set his gay romance during an infamously bloody war famous for ethnic cleansing and in living fucking memory? Amerifats are so retarded.

You can write about anything you want. Stephen King wrote CP and it turned into a movie.

Imagine getting gang-banged by 8 year olds in front of your mom and their moms.

...no.

"HEY HOW ABOUT WE DONT PROMOTE OR SUPPORT BOOKS ABOUT A ROMANCE BETWEEN AND THE VICTIMIZATION OF 2 AMERICANS, SET DURING A REAL LIFE HISTORICAL GENOCIDE WHERE THE VILLAIN IS PART OF THE DEMOGRAPHIC THAT WAS ETHNICALLY CLEANSED,"

the hot takes just keep getting longer and longer. Eventually the hot take itself will be a novel that gets called out for being insensitive to hot takes on twitter. At this point we can only hope the nukes have dropped so we don't have to see it anymore.

Best part:

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> But an angry and underinformed subset of YA Twitter decided that a racially ambiguous character in Blood Heir was black, or this fictional universe's equivalent of black—the character had "bronze" skin and "aquamarine" eyes—and that therefore certain things that character said and did constituted harmful tropes. (YA Twitter has very conservative norms pertaining to what characters of different ethnicities are allowed to say or do.)

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then right after that:

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> (Full I-got-sucked-into-this-vortex-too disclosure: On Wednesday, the morning after I started tweeting about the Jackson situation, McKinney tweeted that "History will place Jesse Singal in the same category as Trump, Bannon, the KKK, Neo-Nazis, and all the other bigots currently coasting on the media's obsession with humanizing some of the worst meat sacks to ever tumble into existence." As a liberal Jew, I respectfully disagree with McKinney's assessment.)

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So the author first claims that these SJWs correcting everyone's non-PC attitudes are "very conservative" and then immediately is upset that his critique got his liberal Jew ass lumped in with Trump et. al.

While the motivations of the movement for more diverse voices in young adult fiction is commendable

It's really not. In fact, nothing about young adult fiction is commendable.

Seriously he made the villain in his novel a Muslim, how W O K E can he be?

That’s not what “attacked” means.

Books were a mistake.

These people will always eat their own, it is practically a natural law. There is only so much outrage to go around, and the natural pettiness that is bred with these people will lead to purity testing and fevered hunting for the slightest transgression. 10/10

4chan really needs to make a list of all the authors who did the pile ons of those two books and make sure they point out all the problematic stuff in their new novels. This way, we get no more young adult novels and these people become poor and destitute. Let's weaponize the autism for good.

Haha just kidding these jerks would just start patreons and fall back on their trust funds.