Drama posting as a whole rots your brain, the sub is easily one of the most transphobic subreddits filled with Enlightened centrists and alt-light trolls, the mod team is a bunch of weirdo nominally left succdems who post on Stupidpol about how they're the bastion of left thought.
One of them made a post about how they used to be a SJW but alienated all their friends and family and now decries idpol, when in reality they're probably just insufferable to be around
That sub has been taken over by Chapos. It's literally just non stop hating on Sam Harris because he is centre left and not a new justice loony toony crazy person. It's hilarious
Sam harris and the joe rogan sub are like this. And if those fucking mongs had read the Gulag Ar. books, they would know its not JUST about time spent in the gulags. It covers, in depth, exactly how that society got to the logical application of the gulag system. Which had eerily similar rhetoric as what is being spewed out of commie mommie's mouth at the moment. Shit, just the other day she said that capitalism is "irredeemable".
Come on, is anyone in the GoP put out a policy proposal as unhinged as the green new deal it would be all anyone talked about regardless of how junior.
There's nothing really "unhinged" in that deal. Go read it yourself and then come back to me and point out the "unhinged" parts and we'll discuss them.
The part where it costs trillions of dollars a year for 10 years. It's literally no possible, I've read it and her even more insane "FAQ" section that she took down out if embarrassment. Your link to CNN trying to spin it as not entirely crazy is hilarious, they can't even excuse the nonsense like "upgrade all existing buildings in the US" and just kind of pretend she was just kidding. 100% renewable in 10 years? If you green lusted the whole nation you couldn't accomplish that.
The part where it costs trillions of dollars a year for 10 years.
Which specific policy are you talking about that costs trillion dollars?
they can't even excuse the nonsense like "upgrade all existing buildings in the US" and just kind of pretend she was just kidding. 100% renewable in 10 years? If you green lusted the whole nation you couldn't accomplish that.
I don't really think this is possible in 10 years, but this is how you get the ball rolling. This stuff important and has to happen at some point. Her time frames are unrealistic, but the general idea is not "unhinged."
An example of "unhinged" would be republicans thinking you can fix the healthcare system by "opening up cross state markets."
Even if they exaggerate they aren't doing so by an order of magnitude and don't include anything oh n the even more unhinged FAQ section.
I don't really think this is possible in 10 years, but this is how you get the ball rolling. This stuff important and has to happen at some point. Her time frames are unrealistic, but the general idea is not "unhinged."
Yes, the revolutionary idea of "let's polute less" is not unhinged, but we all knew about that idea, it's not novel at all, what is novel is her plan and it's demonstrably nonsense.
An example of "unhinged" would be republicans thinking you can fix the healthcare system by "opening up cross state markets."
Fuck off with whataboutism, I do not support the GOP and don't have to answer for their garbage.
Even if they exaggerate they aren't doing so by an order of magnitude and don't include anything oh n the even more unhinged FAQ section.
This is highly misleading and is pulling the same bullshit they tried to pull with single payer healthcare.
A) The healthcare system would be cheaper than the current system over the same time period. The US healthcare system is hilariously inefficient and expensive compared to other systems in the western world. You can't say "oh, this would be 3.2 trillion a year without also including the fact the current healthcare system is expensive too. Do you unironically not see the issue here?
B) A lot of that number seems to be coming from the claim she had pushed UBI, which wasn't even in the green new deal.
The article you linked says as much:
For universal basic income, the cost has been estimated at $3.8 trillion a year. A narrower program that only covered, say, one out of three Americans who are “unable or unwilling” to work, it would cost about $1.3 trillion. By comparison, free college would be cheap at about $47 billion a year. Affordable housing for the entire nation could cost a lot, depending on what that means, but let’s ignore that for now.
The issue with these price points is people are making wild assumptions about what she actually meant. The only point I will give you is the retrofitting of buildings, her timeframe was retarded and would need to be extended to at least 25 years.
Yes, the revolutionary idea of "let's polute less" is not unhinged, but we all knew about that idea, it's not novel at all, what is novel is her plan and it's demonstrably nonsense.
The timeframe is non-sense, not the goals.
Fuck off with whataboutism, I do not support the GOP and don't have to answer for their garbage.
Uh, that's not "whataboutism" it was an example of what actually unhinged policy looks like.
This is highly misleading and is pulling the same bullshit they tried to pull with single payer healthcare.
A) The healthcare system would be cheaper than the current system over the same time period. The US healthcare system is hilariously inefficient and expensive compared to other systems in the western world. You can't say "oh, this would be 3.2 trillion a year without also including the fact the current healthcare system is expensive too. Do you unironically not see the issue here?
B) A lot of that number seems to be coming from the claim she had pushed UBI, which wasn't even in the green new deal.
The article you linked says as much:
If you're not going to accept any, even ballpark, estimates then why don't you provide a more accurate cost assessment? I provided something that I think does at least the napkin math reasonable to quoted 6.6k and I'm willing to just throw out healthcare entirely because it's a tired debate and walk it back to, let's say $2trillion/year.
The issue with these price points is people are making wild assumptions about what she actually meant. The only point I will give you is the retrofitting of buildings, her timeframe was retarded and would need to be extended to at least 25 years.
People are reading what she wrote, if she meant something other than what she wrote she should have written that instead, or provided a FAQ page that provided same specifics, which she did but instead of confirming that she was actually being reasonable it showed that she was actually being unhinged and even the uncharitable reading of the text was too charitable.
Yes, the revolutionary idea of "let's polute less" is not unhinged, but we all knew about that idea, it's not novel at all, what is novel is her plan and it's demonstrably nonsense.
The timeframe is non-sense, not the goals.
25 year plans are pointless, no one is held to 25 year plans and they're little more than vague statements of priority, she made a 10 year plan on purpose
Uh, that's not "whataboutism" it was an example of what actually unhinged policy looks like.
It's actually the opposite, allowing cross state coverage is an ok policy change, expecting it to fix insurance is the unhinged component. AoC is unhinged down to the brass tax.
It's actually the opposite, allowing cross state coverage is an ok policy change, expecting it to fix insurance is the unhinged component. AoC is unhinged down to the brass tax.
Except there are no federal regulations preventing cross-state insurance sells and the ACA literally included things to increase these. There are literally papers on this:
If you're not going to accept any, even ballpark, estimates then why don't you provide a more accurate cost assessment? I provided something that I think does at least the napkin math reasonable to quoted 6.6k and I'm willing to just throw out healthcare entirely because it's a tired debate and walk it back to, let's say $2trillion/year.
It's only 2 trillion a year if you don't increase the building timeframe. If you increase said timeframe, how is that not affordable?
People are reading what she wrote, if she meant something other than what she wrote she should have written that instead, or provided a FAQ page that provided same specifics, which she did but instead of confirming that she was actually being reasonable it showed that she was actually being unhinged and even the uncharitable reading of the text was too charitable.
The first draft was instantly taken down. You understand what that means, right?
25 year plans are pointless, no one is held to 25 year plans and they're little more than vague statements of priority, she made a 10 year plan on purpose
Except there are no federal regulations preventing cross-state insurance sells and the ACA literally included things to increase these. There are literally papers on this:
I don't care about the specifics of the example you brought up, I was merely showing how it's different in kind to the GND. I have no interest in debating GOP health insurance policies.
The first draft was instantly taken down. You understand what that means, right?
That it overreached and was rightly ridiculed? The "first draft", you know the kind of thing you send to NPR as the final copy as a prank, was clearly what she intended to say, taking it down was damage control. Are you seriously going to claim ti be so stupid as to think people bother to upload rough drafts of text to their policy website?
That it overreached and was rightly ridiculed? The "first draft", you know the kind of thing you send to NPR as the final copy as a prank, was clearly what she intended to say, taking it down was damage control. Are you seriously going to claim ti be so stupid as to think people bother to upload rough drafts of text to their policy website?
I think people upload things by mistake to political websites often. I've not seen AOC defend any of the stuff in the first draft, so why do you claiming she actually supports those things?
If you make a healthy salad but use draino instead of dressing and eat droppings instead of raisins the fact that the salad is mostly made of good ingredients is pointless.
I love how they're so protective of that fucking retard that they won't even let her out of her cage to debate anyone. It's like her handlers know how stupid AOC is.
I like how the comments are all white-knighting AOC saying anyone shouldn’t expect her to have time to discuss politics with Jordan B. Peterson and Ben Shapiro when she literally announced that she was looking for a debate. The posters in that sub are the poster children for that caved in head meme👌
Been listening to your podcast starting from episode 1 and catching up. Disappointed to hear that
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will be on it. Makes me question everything i have heard.
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1 SnapshillBot 2019-03-10
Drama posting as a whole rots your brain, the sub is easily one of the most transphobic subreddits filled with Enlightened centrists and alt-light trolls, the mod team is a bunch of weirdo nominally left succdems who post on Stupidpol about how they're the bastion of left thought.
One of them made a post about how they used to be a SJW but alienated all their friends and family and now decries idpol, when in reality they're probably just insufferable to be around
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1 snowkarl 2019-03-10
That sub has been taken over by Chapos. It's literally just non stop hating on Sam Harris because he is centre left and not a new justice loony toony crazy person. It's hilarious
1 Corporal-Hicks 2019-03-10
Sam harris and the joe rogan sub are like this. And if those fucking mongs had read the Gulag Ar. books, they would know its not JUST about time spent in the gulags. It covers, in depth, exactly how that society got to the logical application of the gulag system. Which had eerily similar rhetoric as what is being spewed out of commie mommie's mouth at the moment. Shit, just the other day she said that capitalism is "irredeemable".
1 JurijFedorov 2019-03-10
She shouldn't be invited because she is an idiot. She makes Trump look intellectual.
1 Whaddaulookinat 2019-03-10
Yeah no. She's not great but way better then demented spergfests
1 ThePathToOne 2019-03-10
narwhal to the bacon my dude
1 Whaddaulookinat 2019-03-10
Are you having a stroke?
1 minitrr 2019-03-10
Cringy terms of reddit yore
1 Whaddaulookinat 2019-03-10
Oh I know. I embarrassed that guy earlier today for being an idiot and now I'm apparently on a list? Who knows I don't give a fuck.
1 cruelandusual 2019-03-10
This is what magacels actually believe.
1 JurijFedorov 2019-03-10
They would believe Trump is intellectual.
1 Fletch71011 2019-03-10
AOC is a moron, but at least she can spell. Trump can't even construct a coherent sentence on Twitter.
1 TooLateRunning 2019-03-10
Sounds like a good reason for why she SHOULD be invited if you ask me.
1 IDFSHILL 2019-03-10
Honestly, I didn't think feminists had a point about foids being held to a higher standard until AOC came along.
The woman says dumb shit but she's not even in the same solar system as Trump or the mainstream GOP.
I can find more retarded shit said on a daily basis by these people than AOC has repeated in her entire life.
1 aqouta 2019-03-10
Come on, is anyone in the GoP put out a policy proposal as unhinged as the green new deal it would be all anyone talked about regardless of how junior.
1 IDFSHILL 2019-03-10
I am dead serious when I say a large portion of the "unhinged shit" in the "green new deal" was literally fabricated/fake news.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/14/politics/green-new-deal-proposal-breakdown/index.html
There's nothing really "unhinged" in that deal. Go read it yourself and then come back to me and point out the "unhinged" parts and we'll discuss them.
1 aqouta 2019-03-10
The part where it costs trillions of dollars a year for 10 years. It's literally no possible, I've read it and her even more insane "FAQ" section that she took down out if embarrassment. Your link to CNN trying to spin it as not entirely crazy is hilarious, they can't even excuse the nonsense like "upgrade all existing buildings in the US" and just kind of pretend she was just kidding. 100% renewable in 10 years? If you green lusted the whole nation you couldn't accomplish that.
1 IDFSHILL 2019-03-10
Which specific policy are you talking about that costs trillion dollars?
I don't really think this is possible in 10 years, but this is how you get the ball rolling. This stuff important and has to happen at some point. Her time frames are unrealistic, but the general idea is not "unhinged."
An example of "unhinged" would be republicans thinking you can fix the healthcare system by "opening up cross state markets."
1 aqouta 2019-03-10
Even if they exaggerate they aren't doing so by an order of magnitude and don't include anything oh n the even more unhinged FAQ section.
Yes, the revolutionary idea of "let's polute less" is not unhinged, but we all knew about that idea, it's not novel at all, what is novel is her plan and it's demonstrably nonsense.
Fuck off with whataboutism, I do not support the GOP and don't have to answer for their garbage.
1 IDFSHILL 2019-03-10
This is highly misleading and is pulling the same bullshit they tried to pull with single payer healthcare.
A) The healthcare system would be cheaper than the current system over the same time period. The US healthcare system is hilariously inefficient and expensive compared to other systems in the western world. You can't say "oh, this would be 3.2 trillion a year without also including the fact the current healthcare system is expensive too. Do you unironically not see the issue here?
B) A lot of that number seems to be coming from the claim she had pushed UBI, which wasn't even in the green new deal.
The article you linked says as much:
The issue with these price points is people are making wild assumptions about what she actually meant. The only point I will give you is the retrofitting of buildings, her timeframe was retarded and would need to be extended to at least 25 years.
The timeframe is non-sense, not the goals.
Uh, that's not "whataboutism" it was an example of what actually unhinged policy looks like.
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1 aqouta 2019-03-10
If you're not going to accept any, even ballpark, estimates then why don't you provide a more accurate cost assessment? I provided something that I think does at least the napkin math reasonable to quoted 6.6k and I'm willing to just throw out healthcare entirely because it's a tired debate and walk it back to, let's say $2trillion/year.
People are reading what she wrote, if she meant something other than what she wrote she should have written that instead, or provided a FAQ page that provided same specifics, which she did but instead of confirming that she was actually being reasonable it showed that she was actually being unhinged and even the uncharitable reading of the text was too charitable.
25 year plans are pointless, no one is held to 25 year plans and they're little more than vague statements of priority, she made a 10 year plan on purpose
It's actually the opposite, allowing cross state coverage is an ok policy change, expecting it to fix insurance is the unhinged component. AoC is unhinged down to the brass tax.
1 LongPostBot 2019-03-10
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1 IDFSHILL 2019-03-10
Except there are no federal regulations preventing cross-state insurance sells and the ACA literally included things to increase these. There are literally papers on this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/01/upshot/the-problem-with-gop-plans-to-sell-health-insurance-across-state-lines.html
It is a non-solution being sold as a solution.
It's only 2 trillion a year if you don't increase the building timeframe. If you increase said timeframe, how is that not affordable?
The first draft was instantly taken down. You understand what that means, right?
What lmao?
1 LongPostBot 2019-03-10
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1 aqouta 2019-03-10
I don't care about the specifics of the example you brought up, I was merely showing how it's different in kind to the GND. I have no interest in debating GOP health insurance policies.
That it overreached and was rightly ridiculed? The "first draft", you know the kind of thing you send to NPR as the final copy as a prank, was clearly what she intended to say, taking it down was damage control. Are you seriously going to claim ti be so stupid as to think people bother to upload rough drafts of text to their policy website?
1 IDFSHILL 2019-03-10
I think people upload things by mistake to political websites often. I've not seen AOC defend any of the stuff in the first draft, so why do you claiming she actually supports those things?
1 aqouta 2019-03-10
So your main defense of the GND is that she didn't really mean it and if she did she meant it would take 25 years instead of 10.
1 IDFSHILL 2019-03-10
I'm saying most of the stuff in the GND is completely fine and her timeframe is retarded.
1 aqouta 2019-03-10
If you make a healthy salad but use draino instead of dressing and eat droppings instead of raisins the fact that the salad is mostly made of good ingredients is pointless.
1 Mexagon 2019-03-10
I love how they're so protective of that fucking retard that they won't even let her out of her cage to debate anyone. It's like her handlers know how stupid AOC is.
1 razzmataz 2019-03-10
Ben Stiller’s best movie was Next of Kin
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2019-03-10
come on it’s clearly Something About Mary
1 standingpretty 2019-03-10
I like how the comments are all white-knighting AOC saying anyone shouldn’t expect her to have time to discuss politics with Jordan B. Peterson and Ben Shapiro when she literally announced that she was looking for a debate. The posters in that sub are the poster children for that caved in head meme👌
1 VapeOnYourNape 2019-03-10
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1 standingpretty 2019-03-10
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1 DeweaponizedAutism 2019-03-10
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1 193208123908 2019-03-10
"Did you just fucking catcall me??"--AOC when Ben "Firebomb Palestine" Shapiro challenged her to a debate
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1 SpiceAndEvNice 2019-03-10
Lmao.