I totally realize most people are going to disagree with me here but I feel compelled to say that closing the sub for a joke wasn't a very kind thing to do. We have seen TONS of posts from vulnerable populations talking about how this sub is a source of support and humor in a dark time. Irony and dirtbagism aside, taking away that support without warning was not okay.
You can say I'm being silly, or humorless or reactionary. Whatever. I love the show and I love this community. But sometimes I come home after dealing with ableism and our nightmare reality all day, and this sub is one of many things that make me feel better. It wasn't a good feeling to find this sub closed for the sake of irony. Maybe that's laughable or pathetic. But for me, it's true.
I'm baffled as to how anyone thinks the shit he said was defensible, like, even if you're a rightoid, he tried to claim a guy that decided to fight dogs was worse than a child raping cult.
Here we see Tucker trying to downplay raping 12 year olds. There is absolutely no other way to read this other than him downplaying literal child rape.
No he isn't. He was specifically talking about the 27 year old and 16 year old. Tucker called the "rape as accomplice" bullshit, and were overturned a year or two after the phone call. He was convicted of the actual rape charges after the phone call.
No he isn't. He was specifically talking about the 27 year old and 16 year old.
There is no defending this.
“The rapist, in this case, has made a lifelong commitment to live and take care of the person, so it is a little different.”
Tucker called the "rape as accomplice" bullshit, and were overturned a year or two after the phone call. He was convicted of the actual rape charges after the phone call.
There is no situation in defending child marriage is acceptable, there is no context that makes what Tucker said acceptable. The man literally claimed a dog fighter should be executed and child rapist should be on the streets.
Here's a yes or no question, did Tucker Carlson say a child rapist should be walking the streets?
• Sept. 6, 2006: “He’s not accused of touching anybody; he is accused of facilitating a marriage between a 16-year-old girl and a 27-year-old man. That’s the accusation. That’s what they’re calling felony rape. [cross-talk] That’s bulls---. I’m sorry. Now this guy may be [cross-talk], may be a child rapist. I’m just telling you that arranging a marriage between a 16-year-old and a 27-year-old is not the same as pulling a stranger off the street and raping her.”
And
Aug. 27, 2009: “He’s in prison because he’s weird and unpopular and he has a different lifestyle that other people find creepy.
“He's like got some weird religious cult where he thinks it's OK to, you know, marry underaged girls, but he didn't do it. Why wouldn't the guy who actually did it, who had sex with an underaged girl, he should be the one who's doing life.”
He's pretty clearly saying that the charges of "facilitating rape" were stupid, which they are. If the guys a rapist, then charge him for that (which he eventually was). I don't know about his other comments, but they could very well have been crude jokes since this is all on Bubba the Love Sponge's radio show.
He was a well known rapist married to literal children before any of this dude.
He literally said a child rapist should be on the streets.
Aug. 27, 2009: “He’s in prison because he’s weird and unpopular and he has a different lifestyle that other people find creepy.
No, he's in prison because he's a fucking child rapist/pimp that ran a cult that revolved around pimping/raping children.
“He's like got some weird religious cult where he thinks it's OK to, you know, marry underaged girls, but he didn't do it. Why wouldn't the guy who actually did it, who had sex with an underaged girl, he should be the one who's doing life.”
He himself raped children. The only thing you're showing here is Tucker is even more retarded and misinformed than anyone had thought before.
In June 2005, Jeffs was charged with sexual assault on a minor and with conspiracy to commit sexual misconduct with a minor for allegedly arranging, in April 2001, a marriage between a then-14-year-old girl and her 19-year-old first cousin, Allen. The young woman, Elissa Wall (then only known as "Jane Doe IV"), testified that she begged Rulon Jeffs, known to her as "Uncle Rulon", to let her wait until she was older, or choose another man for her. The elder Jeffs was apparently "sympathetic", but his son was not, and she was forced to go through with the marriage. Wall alleged that her new husband raped her repeatedly and that she repeatedly miscarried. She eventually left Allen and the community. Jeffs faced the above charges in Mohave County, Arizona. In July 2005, the Arizona Attorney General's office distributed wanted posters offering $10,000 for information leading to Jeffs' arrest and conviction.
Pimping out a 14 year old in 2005, before Tucker defended him.
On June 8, 2006, Jeffs returned to Colorado City to perform more "child bride" marriages.[39]
Pimping out more children before Tucker defended him.
On May 27, 2008, the Smoking Gun website released images of Jeffs with two underage wives, one of whom was 12 years old, celebrating one-year anniversaries in 2005 and 2006.[40]
Married to fucking 12 year olds before Tucker defended him.
Do we need to keep going, or are you going to keep doubling down on trying to defend Cucker "it's not rape if you agree to marry her" Carlson?
I don't know what's exactly going on in Tucker's head, if he's purposely lying or just talking about shit he doesn't know about, but in all of his quotes he qualifies that Jeffs wasn't the one having sex with the underage girls. Is he an idiot? I don't know, but he explicitly says he's in favor of the actual perpetrators being sentence:
“He's like got some weird religious cult where he thinks it's OK to, you know, marry underaged girls, but he didn't do it. Why wouldn't the guy who actually did it, who had sex with an underaged girl, he should be the one who's doing life.”
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1 SnapshillBot 2019-03-11
I totally realize most people are going to disagree with me here but I feel compelled to say that closing the sub for a joke wasn't a very kind thing to do. We have seen TONS of posts from vulnerable populations talking about how this sub is a source of support and humor in a dark time. Irony and dirtbagism aside, taking away that support without warning was not okay.
You can say I'm being silly, or humorless or reactionary. Whatever. I love the show and I love this community. But sometimes I come home after dealing with ableism and our nightmare reality all day, and this sub is one of many things that make me feel better. It wasn't a good feeling to find this sub closed for the sake of irony. Maybe that's laughable or pathetic. But for me, it's true.
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1 IDFSHILL 2019-03-11
I'm baffled as to how anyone thinks the shit he said was defensible, like, even if you're a rightoid, he tried to claim a guy that decided to fight dogs was worse than a child raping cult.
1 grabthebanners 2019-03-11
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1 cragfar 2019-03-11
No he isn't. He was specifically talking about the 27 year old and 16 year old. Tucker called the "rape as accomplice" bullshit, and were overturned a year or two after the phone call. He was convicted of the actual rape charges after the phone call.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/07/27/utah.polygamy.ruling/index.html
1 IDFSHILL 2019-03-11
There is no defending this.
There is no situation in defending child marriage is acceptable, there is no context that makes what Tucker said acceptable. The man literally claimed a dog fighter should be executed and child rapist should be on the streets.
Here's a yes or no question, did Tucker Carlson say a child rapist should be walking the streets?
1 cragfar 2019-03-11
At the time of the tapes, no he didn't. The actual rape conviction was a year or two after.
1 IDFSHILL 2019-03-11
That guy was a well known child rapist well before that conviction, by the way.
1 cragfar 2019-03-11
Here's the two quotes,
And
He's pretty clearly saying that the charges of "facilitating rape" were stupid, which they are. If the guys a rapist, then charge him for that (which he eventually was). I don't know about his other comments, but they could very well have been crude jokes since this is all on Bubba the Love Sponge's radio show.
1 IDFSHILL 2019-03-11
He was a well known rapist married to literal children before any of this dude.
He literally said a child rapist should be on the streets.
No, he's in prison because he's a fucking child rapist/pimp that ran a cult that revolved around pimping/raping children.
He himself raped children. The only thing you're showing here is Tucker is even more retarded and misinformed than anyone had thought before.
1 cragfar 2019-03-11
Show me a clip of him defending Jeffs after he was convicted of rape.
1 IDFSHILL 2019-03-11
He was fucking defending him while he was a well known child rapist/child pimp lmao.
This was all known before any conviction.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Jeffs
Some gems:
Pimping out a 14 year old in 2005, before Tucker defended him.
Pimping out more children before Tucker defended him.
Married to fucking 12 year olds before Tucker defended him.
Do we need to keep going, or are you going to keep doubling down on trying to defend Cucker "it's not rape if you agree to marry her" Carlson?
1 LongPostBot 2019-03-11
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1 cragfar 2019-03-11
I don't know what's exactly going on in Tucker's head, if he's purposely lying or just talking about shit he doesn't know about, but in all of his quotes he qualifies that Jeffs wasn't the one having sex with the underage girls. Is he an idiot? I don't know, but he explicitly says he's in favor of the actual perpetrators being sentence:
1 Wordshark 2019-03-11
You were put down. In the future yadda yadda
1 MemesOfTheResistance 2019-03-11
It’s a joke dawg
1 MG87 2019-03-11
Just pretending to get aroused by kids to own the libs
1 MemesOfTheResistance 2019-03-11
Yeah how dare a man think a 17 year old girl would be sexually attractive
What a predator
1 AlecOzzyHillPitas 2019-03-11
Pizza go on
ChapoTucker Carlson Tonight. Then beat him up and steal his bow tie collection.