Democrat Presidential Candidate Tulsi Gabbard posts campaign ad against “regime change wars” in Syria and “why America needs to leave Syria”; Uses videos of Assad’s barrel bombings and claims it’s footage of American airstrikes on Syrian civilians. A huge storm follows in the replies
20 2019-03-12 by Stacyscrazy21
53 comments
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1 preserved_fish 2019-03-12
As if being an Alawite puppet weren't enough, she drops the hyphen in the adjectival phrase "regime-change."
1 Ruyond 2019-03-12
Ameritards: Don't bomb Al-Qaeda, they're good guys!
1 Stacyscrazy21 2019-03-12
Pretty sure- no, definitely sure no ones ever said that. Sorry Cletus.
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
They might as well have. Considering they are funding these terrorist groups.
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
What the fuck is wrong with people like her ?
I've unironically heard praise for "Rape Dungeon" Gaddafi and Saddam "Rape Loving Psycho Son" Hussein. Same with the Taliban.
Definitely not a war hawk but come on, even I have standards. They keep the peace that's it.
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
How is it considered praise? Are you fuckin retarded? She isn't FOR these dictators. She is AGAINST the wars. HUGE difference.
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
So am I. However those who oppose the wars actually think that the mentioned groups are all decent people. That's the problem.
I don't and never have believed in intervention. However I don't praise these people.
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
I never said you did... But you are asking what is wrong with her. When there clearly isn't anything wrong with her. She is pointing out that regime change wars are not in america's best interest. Regardless of how bad the dictator is. It just creates an even bigger fuckup everytime America gets involved.
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
Agree.
Then why's she using fake footage ? Assad does cruel shit. That much has to be admitted.
However it is not America's responsibility. That should be her message.
Her using Assad's attacks to make a point about America looks like apologia.
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
It's not her job to tell us how much of a bad guy he is. It's her job to put America and it's people first. And the innocent lives these wars ruin. Yes Asaad is a brutal dictator. Something she has said on air. Doesn't mean there aren't better alternatives to just overthrowing him and destroying their entire country and taking their oil
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
I agree. However don't be an apologist for him. Be upfront that he's a bad hombre but that's just the way it is and America won't be involved.
1 Stacyscrazy21 2019-03-12
Thank you
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
You're welcome but for what ?
Not that you shouldn't be thanking me.
1 Stacyscrazy21 2019-03-12
For explaining that so I didn’t have to
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
Oh OK. Yes intervention is wrong.
However on Reddit I come across apologia for dictators especially from "anti imperial", fuck drumpf and anti West folx.
It's rather jarring along with being irritating.
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
She hasn't been an apologist for him. It's idiots like yourself who keep putting those words in her mouth.
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
I'm not putting words in her mouth. Her weak willed response is her problem.
Just call Assad terrible and prosecutable. That's it.
And then call for withdrawal.
Idiots like you just keep sperging.
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
Heaven forbid she wants to see facts before making a decision like a logical person.
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
Heaven forbid she actually just condemns him but still stand film on non intervention.
The two are possible.
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
Yet totally unnecessary. Your biggest hangup about her is the fact that she wont give you a stupid soundbite.
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
Nope necessary. She's wishy washy on Assad. Politico and CNN too believe that and they're not Conservative rags.
PROJECTION plain and simple.
If you think condemning Assad is a sound bite than you're wrong, it isn't. It's just the decent and moral thing to do. Very easy in fact. Assad is murderous scum. Not some flavour of the month trend/topic that she has to endorse.
Condemning Assad doesn't mean going Neocon.
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
CNN are just a bunch of neocons pushing more war.
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
So is politico I guess. Everyone's wrong. Everyone is a neocon.
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
Or they just blindly follow all of what the neocons say.
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
Nope, not everyone is a neo con. There is no vast neo con conspiracy operating in Politico.
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
God you are so single minded its laughable.
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
God you are so single minded its laughable, you're actually claiming that everyone has a neo con agenda.
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
I didn't claim that, you said that. I said that the big news outlets that are funded by people who have interest in keeping the war going are neocons. And It's influencing the population and creating idiots like yourself who aren't actually looking at the facts and just repeating CIA talking points that are created by actual war criminals like Elliott Abrams.
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
You're a dumb fuck who actually believes that I am in favour of intervention even though I explicitly said I'm not.
CNN is either neo con funded or liberal funded depending on the extremist all media is this or that.
People want the war to go on and people don't. However you can support the latter and still condemn Assad.
He's as much of a war criminal as Assad.
They both are.
You really are differently abled aren't you ?
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
If you are against all this shit then why are you shitting all over the ONLY politician who is the MOST outspoken against these wars. Just because she wants to do things the right way instead of just spewing the same talking points that all the neocons are spewing.
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
She's not infallible. Stop being a cultist like those MAGAtards.
Neo cons aren't saying that US should withdraw you idiot.
They're saying that Assad is a brutal fuck who should be removed. Believing in the former doesn't mean believing the latter.
It's called principles.
One can urge total withdrawal/end of foreign intervention AND condemn brutal dictators like Assad.
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
Of course nobody is infallible stop putting words in my fucking mouth. Tulsi has spoken against Assad numerous times she has said he is a brutal dictator and that something should be done if he is guilty of these warcrimes. But the bigger issue here is that these regime change wars that are BTW ILLEGAL, are not making the situation any better and there has to be a better way.
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
Your impotent rage is misplaced you mong. I'm not pro war at all.
She's wishy washy on him. CNN, Politico and others think that. Of course they're all neo con funded. He's as much of a war criminal as any neo con.
You ignorant fuck where have I denied it ?
Again, get it through your damaged brain, she can forcefully condemn Assad AND support ending ALL wars.
Very simple. Not for spergs like you however.
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
She has condemned him.. wtf are you on about. You are getting mad because she doesn't push harder against bullshit about her? She is trying to push good policy and a calm demeanor. If you can't understand that then you have no business commenting on politics.
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
She is wishy washy regarding him. He's a war criminal and a brutal man and condemning him won't cost her anything. Not a damn thing.
Again I'm repeating myself she CAN condemn him AND endorse total non intervention.
You're the only one who's mad and PROJECTING.
If you can't understand that her attitude towards Assad is wrong you have no business commenting on politics.
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
Can you be specific when she was "wishy washy" cause I am not seeing it. I see her wanting proof before acting on what he has done. She has said he is a brutal dictator. And her stance hasn't changed on that at all. Ever.
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
I have linked you articles from CNN and Politico.
She needs "evidence" to condemn him. If you need proof of Assad's cruelty, it's there as much as proof for any neo con. This is wilful blindness.
Assad needs to be forcefully condemn. Learn from the hard left when they condemn Israel. That's what's needed with Assad.
She tweeted a video of Assad and disguised it as an American attack. This thread links that.
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
You are getting articles from CNN and Politico and calling them fact when they are the ones benefitting from the continuing of war. How about do yourself a favour and get some actual facts.
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
Everyone is a neo con funded shill according to you. She just disguised an Assad bombing as an American bombing.
She's wishy washy. Politico and CNN are GENERALLY trust worthy. Bury your head in the sand.
I'll continue to say it. You can deny it. She's wishy washy on Assad.
How about you do yourself a favour and stop denying it.
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
You probably also think Russia is a huge influence on the elections and that the United States is helping Venezuela.
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
I'm positive bots influenced the election and Russia has meddled.
The US has never helped anyone and isn't helping anyone. States have interests and they try to protect and further them.
So no the USA isn't helping Venezuela. That DOES NOT mean Maduro isn't a dictator.
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
The only proof they have of Russia influencing the election is an AMERICAN based company (new knowledge) who created a false flag operation. The rest of it is just speculation.
And Maduro has been elected twice, he isn't a dictator. Dictator implies that he took control by force. You don't need to take it by force if you have 65% of the vote.
If you don't think this entire thing is about the oil in Venezuela then you have blinders on.
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
You're retarded if you dispute Maduro is a dictator. Go to r/neoliberal they'll give you the facts thoroughly.
I DO know Venezuela should be invaded is what Bolton wants. Why do you think I think otherwise ?
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
r/neoliberal is a trashheap.
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
And their facts ?
Why are you favourable towards dictators yet quite rightly against intervention ?
You're a moral schizo.
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
See you have no idea what you are even saying. I never said i was favourable towards dictators. You are just confused as to what a dictator actually is. And you obviously have no idea what happens to a country when there is no elected leadership. Because even if Maduro has done some shady shit. As all politicians have. He was elected. So if anyone has a beef with how he got there then fix the problem. If he broke the law then prosecute him for his crimes. If the election was fraudulent then prove it and hold a new one. But if the majority of citizens actually voted for him then he is their leader. I mean comon Trump is the united states president. Can you imagine if another country did the same thing to united states. Come in and then just appoint Nancy Pelosi. The republicans would go to war. And the united states would fall apart. You are so short sighted it is unreal. Use your brain and actually put together a comprehesive thought about the actual issues here instead of relaying shit news from shit sources.
1 xlhat 2019-03-12
Use your brain and actually put together a comprehesive thought about the actual issues here instead of relaying shit news from shit sources. You are so short sighted it is unreal.
The election was rigged, it had the lowest turnout it was a show election, the vote was rigged and in general Maduro is not the president. Neither is Gauido.
Doesn't mean that Maduro should be removed.
Stop and think.
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
Is your name Bari Weiss?
1 Penguinproof1 2019-03-12
Functionally identical.
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
Except it's not.
1 Stacyscrazy21 2019-03-12
“She’s against the wars to remove them. She doesn’t want them to stay in power!!1!1!1!!1!!”
1 Myerz99 2019-03-12
Says every moron who thinks that all out war is the only way to remove a dictator.