Ok, Georgie-boy, you know nothing about Stalin and glorious Soviet Union so delete your 1984 and your Animal Farm because you are harming hard working proletariat you are supposed to be an ally to.
Funny and sad irony is that about 40 years ago, some Nigerian writer wrote about Conrad's Heart of Darkness:
Joseph Conrad is "a thoroughgoing racist" for depicting Africa as "the other world".
When they confronted him that Conrad actually CAN write, he responded with
I never said at any point that you should stop attaching artistic merit to Heart of Darkness; if you want to you can. There are all kinds of sophisticated readings of Heart of Darkness, and there are some people who will not be persuaded there is anything wrong with it. But all that I'm really demanding, I'm not simply putting it, I'm demanding that my reading stand beside these other readings ... Although he's writing good sentences, he's also writing about a people, and their life. And he says about these people that they are rudimentary souls ... The Africans are the rudimentaries, and then on top are the good whites. Now I don't accept that, as a basis for ... As a basis for anything.
40 years later, Africa made no upward move in any important social aspect.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
What's bad about what he said? He's nothing like woke Twitter who demands that anything they dislike be deplatformed or deleted. All he's asking is that his critique stand alongside others.
I mean Heart of Darkness is a great book but it's also misanthropic as fuck lol
It would be like some Chinese writers accusing "whites" of writing negatively on various aspects of Chinese society while ignoring that is exactly what their society is.
There is no philosophical consciousness specific for Western society just like there is no Western definition of freedom.
There's only a philosophical consciousness and a freedom and West is just best at exercising it.
Damn how did YA books go from sparkly vampires to THIS shit
My sister used to love these books and it was all just love triangles and girly shit. I know for a fucking fact that if it had been about trans fairies having gay romances with refugees that she would've ignored that shit and just read romance novels.
I'm glad the proud gender neutral freaks of this "community" are enjoying their circle jerk of seeing who can write the wokest book, but I have to imagine that their numbers are radically down since the Twilight/Hunger Games era. You can try to convince yourself otherwise all you want, but teen girls don't want SJW crap, they want hetero love stories.
he's been living in lebanon since the 70s, through their civil war, and has managed to never end up in a ransom vid with a bag over his head. Pretty impressive tbh
The biggest thing is that trannies were open and out in mughal times and still are both in India and Pakistan. The prince is an interesting take because it would have been a massive deal but as long as there were other sons the emperor would just have sent him to the trannies to raise as their own. Also they were and are called khwaja sirra and used to act as messengers between men and women
As a writer of New Adult, this scares me. This is the third one this year. Maybe it'll fizzle out eventually but odds are higher that it will spread to other genres. And guess what's going to be first? New Adult, as it really is more of a transition genre between full-blown adult novels and YA.
Look, maybe this novel does pander. But that's what they want. And if PANDERING doesn't even work, imagine what'll happen to someone who doesn't pander. I'm a cishet white chick, thus I already am someone that they don't want writing (since I'm white and have no other cards I can play/am willing to play as to why my writing deserves attention) and these people seemingly don't want white writers.
I don't know, but this sets a precedent I think and it scares me.
I've self-published on Amazon before. The KDP side of it is decent. 70% royalties, total creative control. The CreateSpace side of it isn't as great, as you have to sell a certain number to get any royalties. Honestly, even with spamming the shit out of it on Facebook when it came out on Kindle and getting 70% of the money (I think the book was $2.99) I only made about $100 on it, if that. I ended up pulling it because I wanted to fix some issues with it. I'm not sure how well I would've done with better marketing/promotion and if the book had been fully ready for publishing.
I have considered a pen name and actually have one in particular I use for a specific series I've been working on as of late.
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1 SnapshillBot 2019-03-12
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1 heymrpigglywiggly 2019-03-12
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1 The_runnerup913 2019-03-12
Every day, I think my life sucks. That I can’t possibly be more of an unlovable autistic retard.
But then I realize I’m not a blue check mark on Twitter, so my life is actually pretty ok.
1 tHeSiD 2019-03-12
Its like they only give out checkmarks to absolute irredeemable retards and "celebrities" to just kinda make it look valid
1 newcomer_ts 2019-03-12
Funny and sad irony is that about 40 years ago, some Nigerian writer wrote about Conrad's Heart of Darkness:
When they confronted him that Conrad actually CAN write, he responded with
40 years later, Africa made no upward move in any important social aspect.
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1 whenweriiide 2019-03-12
Our class read Things Fall Apart freshman year of high school. My mans Okonkwo machetes his own son!
1 SansSoIeiI 2019-03-12
Okonkwo was right btw
1 whenweriiide 2019-03-12
It was an honor killing of some kind right? I forget what happened exactly.
1 SansSoIeiI 2019-03-12
he has to die because he was a pussy
1 whenweriiide 2019-03-12
😎🔪 😰 ... 👍
1 Kijafa 2019-03-12
Also he had the yams.
1 BIknkbtKitNwniS 2019-03-12
Chinua Achebe was a filthy partisan.
😤😤😤
1 charming_tatum 2019-03-12
Heart of Darkness is a slow burn that took me 2 reads to appreciate but what does that have to do with this YA nonsense?
1 newcomer_ts 2019-03-12
People find negative meaning that they project onto author and then send the author to the gallows.
That's... how you say... .Kafkaesque
1 DaddyDrama1 2019-03-12
Uneducated burger detected. You never read Things Fall Apart? And Conrad can be racist and a good author, are you for real?
Even for a tranny, this is one pill-addled daddy issued filled take
1 Plexipus 2019-03-12
What's bad about what he said? He's nothing like woke Twitter who demands that anything they dislike be deplatformed or deleted. All he's asking is that his critique stand alongside others.
I mean Heart of Darkness is a great book but it's also misanthropic as fuck lol
1 newcomer_ts 2019-03-12
People should face their inadequacies head on.
It would be like some Chinese writers accusing "whites" of writing negatively on various aspects of Chinese society while ignoring that is exactly what their society is.
There is no philosophical consciousness specific for Western society just like there is no Western definition of freedom.
There's only a philosophical consciousness and a freedom and West is just best at exercising it.
1 QinEmperor 2019-03-12
A fucking six figure deal for this piece of pandering trash? I unironically hope YA Twitter actually manages to take this one down
1 Maxwyfe 2019-03-12
I was under the impression one had to be talented to be a YA writer. I was wrong.
1 Gusozac 2019-03-12
What retarded thought process led you to this conclusion?
1 Maxwyfe 2019-03-12
A childhood diet of lead infused water and paint chips, I suppose.
1 THOT-AUDITOR 2019-03-12
Remember despite the title the biggest purchasers of this genre are bored wine moms. They're dimestore romance novels with marginally more plot.
1 snallygaster 2019-03-12
The only way you could have formed this impression is if you've never read a YA novel. They are and always have been absolute trash
1 SwiftOnSobriety 2019-03-12
I think you have this backwards?
1 snallygaster 2019-03-12
oops!
1 bussysmalls 2019-03-12
Damn how did YA books go from sparkly vampires to THIS shit
My sister used to love these books and it was all just love triangles and girly shit. I know for a fucking fact that if it had been about trans fairies having gay romances with refugees that she would've ignored that shit and just read romance novels.
I'm glad the proud gender neutral freaks of this "community" are enjoying their circle jerk of seeing who can write the wokest book, but I have to imagine that their numbers are radically down since the Twilight/Hunger Games era. You can try to convince yourself otherwise all you want, but teen girls don't want SJW crap, they want hetero love stories.
1 NumerousEvent 2019-03-12
Because woke loser women kept reading them. The biggest demographic is women aged 30-44.
1 leparsdon 2019-03-12
That's depressing
1 bussysmalls 2019-03-12
That's depressing as fuck
1 xKillerDreag 2019-03-12
Despite extremely woke women calling everyone "manchilds", they are also literally children.
Wow congrats you have the exact same taste in movies, books, TV shows, music, and comedy as a 12 year old!
1 Chin_Up_Chick 2019-03-12
It’s true my mom loves twilight and 50 shades. ._.’
1 PracticalOnions 2019-03-12
Cursed statistic tbh
1 Plexipus 2019-03-12
I mean it's basically the women's equivalent of being a 45 year old dude who only reads comic books
1 NapoleonBonerpart5 2019-03-12
Honestly it might be worse.
1 hentaiprincesss 2019-03-12
Tfw no qt /lit/ gf
Fucking spooks
1 Cleverly_Clearly 2019-03-12
“I don’t mean to trouble you, but could you set the book in an entirely different culture?”
1 recriminology 2019-03-12
Also the unironic reference to stay in your lane which somehow is the most W👀KE SHIT ever despite being exactly the 100% opposite of “progressive”.
1 tHeSiD 2019-03-12
lol just rewrite the book bro
1 The_Reason_Trump_Won 2019-03-12
1 JumbledFun 2019-03-12
Trump fans don't read books, lets be real
1 The_Reason_Trump_Won 2019-03-12
> YA
> books
1 JumbledFun 2019-03-12
Nothing in the definition of a book says anything about them having to be profound.
1 TendiesAndMeth 2019-03-12
But is it really a book if it's just shit smeared on paper
1 Woolgun 2019-03-12
I feel like there's a culture out there that used to do this and you just fucking disrespected them. Based!
1 Mexagon 2019-03-12
And yoko screaming is still music, right? Postmodernists get the wall too, bud.
1 jaredschaffer27 2019-03-12
I read ~20 books a year. They're usually just different variations on the plot of Red Dawn, though
1 JumbledFun 2019-03-12
A Clancy man?
1 jaredschaffer27 2019-03-12
Nah I'm just kidding, I don't read a whole lot of fiction. Non-fiction is where it's at.
1 JumbledFun 2019-03-12
I highly recommend this book then. Great insight to why the Middle East is so fucked
1 jaredschaffer27 2019-03-12
Sweet, thanks. I'll add it to my list.
1 JumbledFun 2019-03-12
Fisk has had a pretty crazy career. Ballsy mother fucker
1 jaredschaffer27 2019-03-12
He's British so I'm a little skeptical ngl.
1 JumbledFun 2019-03-12
he's been living in lebanon since the 70s, through their civil war, and has managed to never end up in a ransom vid with a bag over his head. Pretty impressive tbh
1 jaredschaffer27 2019-03-12
Damn, he's got that colonizer blood. I like it.
1 TendiesAndMeth 2019-03-12
Based
1 d-amazo 2019-03-12
that hilariously bad run-on sentence of a description is the best thing i've ever read.
i should become a YA novelist. i could write that shit with my eyes closed.
1 casimik 2019-03-12
It also just lays out the entire two-book arc in one tweet. No need to even release the book at this point.
1 Unkill_is_dill 2019-03-12
A mughal shown as trans? Lmao, the author is gonna be Allahu-Akbared.
1 TendiesAndMeth 2019-03-12
Muslims love trussy tho
1 Unkill_is_dill 2019-03-12
No, they love young bussy
1 TendiesAndMeth 2019-03-12
Both
1 leparsdon 2019-03-12
That synopsis sounds awful
1 Wololol0w 2019-03-12
The biggest thing is that trannies were open and out in mughal times and still are both in India and Pakistan. The prince is an interesting take because it would have been a massive deal but as long as there were other sons the emperor would just have sent him to the trannies to raise as their own. Also they were and are called khwaja sirra and used to act as messengers between men and women
1 HP_civ 2019-03-12
Huh, today I learned
1 diggity_md 2019-03-12
Hey look, time for me to appropriate a brown person's culture.
😴😴😴
1 JumbledFun 2019-03-12
Up next on SNL "Can you write that?!"
1 elephantofdoom 2019-03-12
John Green has doomed us all.
1 sweatpantswarrior 2019-03-12
Woke twitter demands its monthly ino sacrifice
1 ProMisogynist_ 2019-03-12
You know what, maybe Nixon was right. Chocolatecide when?
1 KupKate95 2019-03-12
As a writer of New Adult, this scares me. This is the third one this year. Maybe it'll fizzle out eventually but odds are higher that it will spread to other genres. And guess what's going to be first? New Adult, as it really is more of a transition genre between full-blown adult novels and YA.
Look, maybe this novel does pander. But that's what they want. And if PANDERING doesn't even work, imagine what'll happen to someone who doesn't pander. I'm a cishet white chick, thus I already am someone that they don't want writing (since I'm white and have no other cards I can play/am willing to play as to why my writing deserves attention) and these people seemingly don't want white writers.
I don't know, but this sets a precedent I think and it scares me.
1 NumerousEvent 2019-03-12
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1 KupKate95 2019-03-12
How dare you?? Blocked and reported!
1 IllegitimateLiteracy 2019-03-12
Just self publish on Amazon and give a finger to the trade pub circle jerk.
Write under a pen name and If your book becomes a hot potato it's already out and laugh all the way to the bank.
1 KupKate95 2019-03-12
I've self-published on Amazon before. The KDP side of it is decent. 70% royalties, total creative control. The CreateSpace side of it isn't as great, as you have to sell a certain number to get any royalties. Honestly, even with spamming the shit out of it on Facebook when it came out on Kindle and getting 70% of the money (I think the book was $2.99) I only made about $100 on it, if that. I ended up pulling it because I wanted to fix some issues with it. I'm not sure how well I would've done with better marketing/promotion and if the book had been fully ready for publishing.
I have considered a pen name and actually have one in particular I use for a specific series I've been working on as of late.
1 BeerusandChampaBest 2019-03-12
Trans main character, that's an easy nope
1 libelecsBlackWolf 2019-03-12
If this continues as is, it is possible no other YA novel is ever published. And that day can't get here fast enough
1 VALIS666 2019-03-12
There's drama brewing every second in the lives of adults who read shit-tier fantasy fiction aimed at 13-year-old girls, I'd imagine.