We're in an age where a business with 6 employees can be worth billions of dollars so companies can pull stupid ass diversity quotas and still be in the green.
I can’t think of a quicker way to ruin your life than take out a loan for 13,000, not spend it on a degree, and hope that will qualify you to be a software developer.
If you’re going to get a loan of 13,000 you may as well just go to community college and make sure CS is what you want to do and are capable of doing so you can just change your degree if you have to.
I looked at one and it seemed like a bad idea. Maybe it was just the one offered in my area but 8 weeks of training ultimately won’t compare to a degree.
sure, but some of these camps have relationships with various tech companies and offer help finding a job right away.
A lot of them will even not make you pay until they find you a job. But it heavily depends on the camp you go to, and it helps to have a degree in another field as well. My friend had a finance degree when he went to the camp, and he got a job right out of said camp for over 100k a year.
Colleges also have career fairs, connections, and they’re much better when it comes to networking.
Another con imo is that the boot camps are high impact and highly focused. There’s hundreds of coding languages and what you learn in one boot camp will eventually be obsolete. With no degree you’ll eventually not really have a back up plan if this happens to you or if you lose the job you received because of the connection with the boot camp. They’re too specialized and CS is a really broad field.
You may eventually have to end up going to another boot camp to retrain or go to college.
Lastly if you’re broke and have no experience kinda like what the OP is saying, this is why I’m saying it’s a quick way to ruin your life. It’s not a quick and easy fix. If you’re broke and have no career that’s a really bad way to invest 13k you don’t have. If it turns out you can’t handle or do the work, that’s money you most likely still have to pay, if it turns out you can’t get a job with that company because you didn’t do as well or they just aren’t hiring, also during these programs they’re usually 9-5 and you dont have a way to support yourself during this putting you deeper in the hole.
The op made it sound like a guaranteed return on investment when it’s not and can go wrong.
Your pal already had a finance degree of course he’s not hurting, that’s an awesome degree to have. He probably was also in a good position to support himself during the boot camp and knew he would succeed because he had an interest in computers.
I think if you go to a coding bootcamp you should probably be learning other languages in your spare time just because, and also getting certs in various things just to be safe.
The camps they went to actually taught ruby, and I don't know that much about programming but from what they told me it seemed "safe."
This sounds like an advertisement for something that sounds awesome but actually really sucks.
In my area they had something similar. They were promising full sail scholarships to minorities in computer science for people that wanted to attend their coding boot camp or whatever. But you actually had to pay for the tuition and then they decided on the couple of people they wanted to give the scholarship to. That wasn’t even the least stupid part. The scholarship didn’t cover supplies. You had to get a bunch of apple shit like a Mac and other stuff not included in the tuition. So you were still paying out of pocket a lot of money.
Also it was completely impossible to support yourself during this time because the boot camp was 9-5 every day so it probably would have been extremely difficult if not impossible to also have a job and pay for living expenses.
Lastly it was only like 8 weeks. It really can’t compare to having a degree in computer science. As much as I hate college it actually gives you a foundation to be able to adapt with the constantly changing technology industry. It’s expected I’ll get my computer science degree in 4 years, there’s no way I could get that done in 8 weeks. It’s just really superficial to learn as little as you can about coding in 8 weeks because in 5 years it’s gonna be obsolete and you’ll have to go to another one of these programs or college anyways.
If you’re broke this is a bad idea. If youre rich or supported by someone and want to play programmer I guess this is an ok idea.
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1 SnapshillBot 2019-03-17
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1 nmx179 2019-03-17
lmao
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1 dazivostri 2019-03-17
Sounds like some weird cult.
1 HPLcatname 2019-03-17
Every tech office looks like a daycare for manchildren so I mean you're not wrong.
1 dazivostri 2019-03-17
Such a dying industry because of that, too. Better fix it quick.
1 HPLcatname 2019-03-17
We're in an age where a business with 6 employees can be worth billions of dollars so companies can pull stupid ass diversity quotas and still be in the green.
1 IDFSHILL 2019-03-17
Women live life on debug mode.
1 Chin_Up_Chick 2019-03-17
I can’t think of a quicker way to ruin your life than take out a loan for 13,000, not spend it on a degree, and hope that will qualify you to be a software developer.
If you’re going to get a loan of 13,000 you may as well just go to community college and make sure CS is what you want to do and are capable of doing so you can just change your degree if you have to.
1 IDFSHILL 2019-03-17
idk multiple people I know have gotten programming jobs right out of a bootcamp.
One is currently at like 135k a year.
1 Chin_Up_Chick 2019-03-17
I looked at one and it seemed like a bad idea. Maybe it was just the one offered in my area but 8 weeks of training ultimately won’t compare to a degree.
1 IDFSHILL 2019-03-17
sure, but some of these camps have relationships with various tech companies and offer help finding a job right away.
A lot of them will even not make you pay until they find you a job. But it heavily depends on the camp you go to, and it helps to have a degree in another field as well. My friend had a finance degree when he went to the camp, and he got a job right out of said camp for over 100k a year.
1 Chin_Up_Chick 2019-03-17
Colleges also have career fairs, connections, and they’re much better when it comes to networking.
Another con imo is that the boot camps are high impact and highly focused. There’s hundreds of coding languages and what you learn in one boot camp will eventually be obsolete. With no degree you’ll eventually not really have a back up plan if this happens to you or if you lose the job you received because of the connection with the boot camp. They’re too specialized and CS is a really broad field.
You may eventually have to end up going to another boot camp to retrain or go to college.
Lastly if you’re broke and have no experience kinda like what the OP is saying, this is why I’m saying it’s a quick way to ruin your life. It’s not a quick and easy fix. If you’re broke and have no career that’s a really bad way to invest 13k you don’t have. If it turns out you can’t handle or do the work, that’s money you most likely still have to pay, if it turns out you can’t get a job with that company because you didn’t do as well or they just aren’t hiring, also during these programs they’re usually 9-5 and you dont have a way to support yourself during this putting you deeper in the hole.
The op made it sound like a guaranteed return on investment when it’s not and can go wrong.
Your pal already had a finance degree of course he’s not hurting, that’s an awesome degree to have. He probably was also in a good position to support himself during the boot camp and knew he would succeed because he had an interest in computers.
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1 IDFSHILL 2019-03-17
I think if you go to a coding bootcamp you should probably be learning other languages in your spare time just because, and also getting certs in various things just to be safe.
The camps they went to actually taught ruby, and I don't know that much about programming but from what they told me it seemed "safe."
1 Chin_Up_Chick 2019-03-17
That’s true. I’m just mad I have to go to college for 4 years and people like OP can do it in one year 😂
Trying to justify my choice mostly to myself I think.
1 Chin_Up_Chick 2019-03-17
This sounds like an advertisement for something that sounds awesome but actually really sucks.
In my area they had something similar. They were promising full sail scholarships to minorities in computer science for people that wanted to attend their coding boot camp or whatever. But you actually had to pay for the tuition and then they decided on the couple of people they wanted to give the scholarship to. That wasn’t even the least stupid part. The scholarship didn’t cover supplies. You had to get a bunch of apple shit like a Mac and other stuff not included in the tuition. So you were still paying out of pocket a lot of money.
Also it was completely impossible to support yourself during this time because the boot camp was 9-5 every day so it probably would have been extremely difficult if not impossible to also have a job and pay for living expenses.
Lastly it was only like 8 weeks. It really can’t compare to having a degree in computer science. As much as I hate college it actually gives you a foundation to be able to adapt with the constantly changing technology industry. It’s expected I’ll get my computer science degree in 4 years, there’s no way I could get that done in 8 weeks. It’s just really superficial to learn as little as you can about coding in 8 weeks because in 5 years it’s gonna be obsolete and you’ll have to go to another one of these programs or college anyways.
If you’re broke this is a bad idea. If youre rich or supported by someone and want to play programmer I guess this is an ok idea.
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