Usually public, although you would usually have to go out of your way to find it. Court judgments are easy to get your hands on.
Being his own lawyer makes it a lot harder, and not easier, for him to wax political on the stand. If he wanted to fuck his defence up but give him an opportunity to talk a lot of shit, he'd allow his lawyer to do the lawyering and he'd volunteer to give evidence.
Don't underestimate the depth of the autism involved here. We're talking about the same type of people that watched the entirety of the Zimmerman case and 24 hour streams, like Shia's. Given a chance, Autistic Americans will turn the driest affair into a farcical bloodsport.
look it might seem crass but this shit is thoroughly unimportant in the big picture, so its fucking annoying that stupid people are determined for it to have a lasting effect via law
also i want to post doom memes and i cant so it sucks
Who? The kiwi "government"? Just use a VPN and download it anyway, you pussy. As entertaining as the trial would likely be, it's unnecessary to understand this guy's motivation or to prove to the public that he did what he did, given the manifesto and the video. On the flip side, giving the mass murderer a public pulpit to say whatever he likes directly supports his ultimate goal, so there's good reason to have a quiet, unpublicized trial.
I'm not sure about that. You seem pretty fucking stupid.
yeah just let the news report it!
Do you not know how to read English, you fucking mongoloid? I was referring to the trial as being unnecessary to understand his motivation. Read the sentence again.
Attempting to ban the video and the manifesto is asinine and counterproductive, I never disagreed with that. If you're afraid Big Kiwi is gonna manage to scrub the internet of the manifesto, then LARP that you're fighting the good fight and download it, then reupload it elsewhere. Shit, maybe you could even leave your house and like protest or some shit. But that might threaten your flow of NEET bux.
New Zealand is too cucked for a death penalty and he will surely get life. A lawyer would only keep his sperg levels below his liking. He's trying to give us a circus.
To be fair, those “hotel prisons” have like 10 times the suicide rate of normal prisons. Solitary confinement causes irreversible traumatic effects on the brain. It’s literally much more humane to execute them than to keep them locked up in solitary for life.
Exactly this way he get to spout more of his nonsense in person, it's not like he had any chance in getting off, but the drama it would create if he did...
He probably did it on purpose so he could be the center of attention and preach his views to everyone. Forcing him to be represented by a lawyer would ironically probably be punishment to him.
They complete the paperwork for one charge quickly so they can keep him in jail. Then they can carefully collect evidence and build a case for the other 49.
Then people are going to be like "what the actual fuck, we have him on video memeing and gunning down people cowering in a corner, and he was already 28 at that point."
Will they? Media response to terrorists getting short sentences, being pardoned, or having their sentences commuted has been pretty tepid - even in the US.
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1 SnapshillBot 2019-03-18
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1 IllegalSpaceBeaner 2019-03-18
Kiwi's are gonna fuck this up big time huh?
1 ComedicSans 2019-03-18
Doubt it. NZ judges dont tend to take any shit because they're not elected. They won't be afraid of taking his platform away.
1 Wheretheflowersgrow 2019-03-18
Can the court transcripts be sealed, or will they have to be made public?
1 ComedicSans 2019-03-18
Usually public, although you would usually have to go out of your way to find it. Court judgments are easy to get your hands on.
Being his own lawyer makes it a lot harder, and not easier, for him to wax political on the stand. If he wanted to fuck his defence up but give him an opportunity to talk a lot of shit, he'd allow his lawyer to do the lawyering and he'd volunteer to give evidence.
1 Wheretheflowersgrow 2019-03-18
Ah ok, and there's no chance it'll be televised? That would be a great show.
1 ComedicSans 2019-03-18
Little to no chance, especially now. At best there will be cameras for the verdict. We don't treat court hearings as cheap entertainment.
1 Wheretheflowersgrow 2019-03-18
You'd watch it just like everyone else.
1 ComedicSans 2019-03-18
Probably wouldn't, murder trials are pretty boring most of the time. Chain of evidence blows goats.
1 Redactor0 2019-03-18
Jodi Arias smirking was pretty epic. 😏
1 mordorderly 2019-03-18
But then you'd miss Jaffa calling during another high profile case.
1 ComedicSans 2019-03-18
I think Americans are so amped up on Judge Judy that they find know how interminably slow and boring British Commonwealth courts are.
1 mordorderly 2019-03-18
Don't underestimate the depth of the autism involved here. We're talking about the same type of people that watched the entirety of the Zimmerman case and 24 hour streams, like Shia's. Given a chance, Autistic Americans will turn the driest affair into a farcical bloodsport.
1 big_papa_stiffy 2019-03-18
lmao imagine thinking that making it more secretive is going to get people to stop talking about it
1 ComedicSans 2019-03-18
Imagine thinking that you're people.
1 big_papa_stiffy 2019-03-18
look i understand youre all weird and emotional because of this despite being on drama for years
but being all authoritarian and smugly throwing rights away is retarded as fuck nigga
"hah! the state is going to censor this guy so nobody can find out his motivation! hooray!"
cheering on being left out of the loop lmao whats wrong with you
1 ComedicSans 2019-03-18
That's a very roundabout way of admitting that you're retarded.
1 big_papa_stiffy 2019-03-18
look it might seem crass but this shit is thoroughly unimportant in the big picture, so its fucking annoying that stupid people are determined for it to have a lasting effect via law
also i want to post doom memes and i cant so it sucks
1 ComedicSans 2019-03-18
So that's a "yes"?
1 mordorderly 2019-03-18
He states his motivation explicitly in his manifesto, retard. Are you incapable of using Google?
1 big_papa_stiffy 2019-03-18
yeah and theyre banning it being shared you dumb fag lmao
1 mordorderly 2019-03-18
Who? The kiwi "government"? Just use a VPN and download it anyway, you pussy. As entertaining as the trial would likely be, it's unnecessary to understand this guy's motivation or to prove to the public that he did what he did, given the manifesto and the video. On the flip side, giving the mass murderer a public pulpit to say whatever he likes directly supports his ultimate goal, so there's good reason to have a quiet, unpublicized trial.
1 big_papa_stiffy 2019-03-18
yeah i know how to get stuff on the internet dude im saying theyre specifically trying to ban the manifesto alongside the video
yeah just let the news report it!
like they reported he threw a "white power" sign and was inspired by fortnite and pewdiepie
the media is so good at interpreting information and being truthful who needs to see it yourself!
1 mordorderly 2019-03-18
I'm not sure about that. You seem pretty fucking stupid.
Do you not know how to read English, you fucking mongoloid? I was referring to the trial as being unnecessary to understand his motivation. Read the sentence again.
Attempting to ban the video and the manifesto is asinine and counterproductive, I never disagreed with that. If you're afraid Big Kiwi is gonna manage to scrub the internet of the manifesto, then LARP that you're fighting the good fight and download it, then reupload it elsewhere. Shit, maybe you could even leave your house and like protest or some shit. But that might threaten your flow of NEET bux.
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2019-03-18
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1 ComedicSans 2019-03-18
Burned by his own lawyer.
1 heretobefriends 2019-03-18
New Zealand is too cucked for a death penalty and he will surely get life. A lawyer would only keep his sperg levels below his liking. He's trying to give us a circus.
1 ComedicSans 2019-03-18
Real alphas need the state to do things for them.
1 heretobefriends 2019-03-18
Alphas wouldn't get their hands dirty. That's the betas' job.
1 boyoyoyoyong 2019-03-18
How are their prisons, are they a sweet pad like breivik has
1 heretobefriends 2019-03-18
Anything less than an oubliette is going too soft on mass shooters.
1 JudeoBeastAssassin 2019-03-18
To be fair, those “hotel prisons” have like 10 times the suicide rate of normal prisons. Solitary confinement causes irreversible traumatic effects on the brain. It’s literally much more humane to execute them than to keep them locked up in solitary for life.
1 ArtisanalCollabo 2019-03-18
The most he can get is 40 years, probably will plea for 25
1 Ed_ButteredToast 2019-03-18
🍿 https://i.imgur.com/Sc8pgyO.gif 🍿
1 Oranjez 2019-03-18
Is he? Is there literally any reason for him to have a lawyer?
1 Wheretheflowersgrow 2019-03-18
Exactly this way he get to spout more of his nonsense in person, it's not like he had any chance in getting off, but the drama it would create if he did...
1 Redactor0 2019-03-18
What I love about you is that I know exactly what you're linking to every time but it's still worth clicking on. 😊
1 Chin_Up_Chick 2019-03-18
He probably did it on purpose so he could be the center of attention and preach his views to everyone. Forcing him to be represented by a lawyer would ironically probably be punishment to him.
1 Coonass_alt 2019-03-18
you couldn't tell how stupid he was from his meme-filled rampage?
1 TendiesAndMeth 2019-03-18
Mommy 😍
1 Krombopulos-Snake 2019-03-18
The guy already wrote his own press release, might as well represent himself in the court of lol.
1 Wheretheflowersgrow 2019-03-18
Are you referring to his manifesto or has he released something more recent?
1 pewpew17 2019-03-18
Boomer pls, obv talking about the manifest.
1 Wheretheflowersgrow 2019-03-18
You can be really hurtful.
1 BeiberFan123 2019-03-18
Probably plans to.
1 charming_tatum 2019-03-18
With all that's going on I could see journalists being barred from the trial and the threat of substantial jail time to any leakers
1 Alicesnakebae 2019-03-18
Honestly just put him in a hole and leave him he's not worth the effort
1 heretobefriends 2019-03-18
Make Oubliettes Great Again
1 BriefSquirt 2019-03-18
Fuck French words.
Die deutsche sind unsterblich
1 ComedicSans 2019-03-18
That's called "periodic detention" and it's very likely.
1 misophenian 2019-03-18
I think that's when someone only serves time on the weekends.
1 ComedicSans 2019-03-18
Not in New Zealand, where he'll be imprisoned.
1 misophenian 2019-03-18
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periodic_detention#In_New_Zealand
Is wikipedia just wrong on this, as so many other details
1 ComedicSans 2019-03-18
A name change for political palatability, but still goes by it colloquially.
In reality it gets handed down so rarely I can't remember it being discussed since 2002-ish.
1 HardIsLife 2019-03-18
Why are they still reporting about this guy? He obviously loves being an attention whore.
1 Wheretheflowersgrow 2019-03-18
I don't know where you're from, but it's a fairly big story in Aus and NZ.
1 xlhat 2019-03-18
This is a mistake right ?
1 Kitty015 2019-03-18
They complete the paperwork for one charge quickly so they can keep him in jail. Then they can carefully collect evidence and build a case for the other 49.
1 Wheretheflowersgrow 2019-03-18
I wonder what happens if another one dies after the trial.
1 Kitty015 2019-03-18
Charged with another murder and there is another trial.
This will take a year or more before a trial happens though.
1 xlhat 2019-03-18
Oh OK, thank you.
1 Wheretheflowersgrow 2019-03-18
No way he ever gets out.
1 xlhat 2019-03-18
Yeah I hope, I feared they might try to "rehabilitate" him.
1 Scramble187 2019-03-18
100% he won't be allowed to have internet access inside as one of his condition and he'll top himself due to lack of memes
1 heretobefriends 2019-03-18
Life is an option for a single murder in NZ.
1 xlhat 2019-03-18
Does the prisoner serve full term ? Many nations award it however they early release you.
1 heretobefriends 2019-03-18
Can you imagine the drama that would be incurred by even suggesting a dude who gunned down cowering civilians should be released early?
1 xlhat 2019-03-18
I meant, a few decades from now. He's 28. What if they try to release him at 58 or 60 ? People are getting touchy feely about prison.
1 heretobefriends 2019-03-18
Then people are going to be like "what the actual fuck, we have him on video memeing and gunning down people cowering in a corner, and he was already 28 at that point."
1 xlhat 2019-03-18
😂. Well I hope people don't go crazy in the next 30 years. World seems different since 2012.
1 mordorderly 2019-03-18
Will they? Media response to terrorists getting short sentences, being pardoned, or having their sentences commuted has been pretty tepid - even in the US.
1 nullcrash 2019-03-18
A white guy? Yeah, there'd be a ton.
1 DareESwalls 2019-03-18
The SNP let the Lockerbie bombers out early, because the porridge wogs are literally subhuman filth
1 FemaleNeedToBePurged 2019-03-18
Inb4 his trial is live-streamed on Twitch
1 dazivostri 2019-03-18
Better or worse than that woman's mustache?
1 1029384756-mk2 2019-03-18
Watching burgers freak out about the gumvn't coming for their gunz is always fun.
Imagine watching them freak out over ANOTHER country.
1 Hayteez 2019-03-18
Has it even been released whether he got the guns legally or not?
Shooter doesn’t say shit about it in his manifesto besides ‘I chose guns bc lefty v righty’