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My god I just checked your post history. There is no shaming you. This is literally your life. Just imagine how much you could accomplish if you weren’t addicted to Reddit. You’re making a difference, though!
If you actually look at the photo provided by Lee, you will see that Tolkien’s books only take up approximately two and a half shelves, not the three and half she asserts. There also appears to be a wide array of Tolkien’s works on the shelves and it’s not just limited to the Lord of the Rings series.
As for Jordan’s Wheel of Time series it appears to only take up a shelf and a half, but if you count the actual books, there’s only 29. As I mentioned previously there’s 14 books in the Wheel of Time series. That means there’s only around two copies for each book.
Better question: How does it help a bookstore to stock books nobody wants to buy? The reason there's umpteen shelves of Tolkien and Jordan is that people want to buy Tolkien and Jordan. I actually read and I've never heard of Fonda Lee. If we were talking musical acts, this would be like some random one-or-two hit wonder complaining that they aren't as prominently featured at a festival as U2, Foo Fighters, or some other long-time A-list band with a catalog of hits.
This isn't really about money, anyway, you filthy commie P.O.S. It's about Fonda Lee realizing she's never going to measure up to the greats and being a crybaby instead of appreciating and building on the success she already has.
The fact that there's 5 shelves of Tolkien and Jordan and Fonda Lee has a portion of shelf nearby is what our friends in law enforcement would refer to as "a clue."
Why not require people to read those books and learn if they are so bad?
I know your handlers make require you to wear a helmet, but the rest of us aren't r-slurs like you are so we get to make our own decisions.
Fantasy is genre fiction. Tolkien wrote literary fiction. Just because fantasy as a genre is largely influenced by Tolkien's works today doesn't mean that Tolkien's works themselves were genre fiction.
I mean yeah obviously today you'd put Tolkien's works into the fantasy section at bookstores and market it as such but but they were not written with the intention of being marketed as fantasy from day one like fantasy genre fiction today is.
Alright, I'll try to explain further. Let's say I want to write a detective novel. I'll make the main character some smart witty guy like Sherlock Holmes or Hercule Poirot. I'll have it take place during a vacation in some mansion or something like that. I'll have the victim die in a room locked from the inside. I'll have the main character start an investigation, interrogate everyone, and eventually solve the mystery. This is all standard stuff that goes into these types of novels, generic tropes everyone familiar with these kinds of novels knows about. This novel that I wrote is (detective) genre fiction. It doesn't explore any deeper themes, it has no real messages it wants to say, it's literally just casual entertainment for the sake of entertainment, paperback capeshit if you will. It has no "higher" pretensions. The people who buy this novel are going to be fans of the genre who will buy it knowing exactly what they're getting and will buy it specifically because that's what they want. This is, in essence, genre fiction. It's literally written for the sole purpose of appeasing people who like this particular genre (detective novels in this case).
Literary fiction, on the other hand, is, and I apologize for sounding pretentious here, more """serious""" literature. It's literature that explores various themes, the human condition, that includes social commentary, that focuses on the characters and not the plot, etc. When Tolkien set out to write Lord of the Rings, his thought process wasn't "What does fantasy usually include? Dwarves, elves, orcs, wizards, evil overlords and epic battles? Gotta include all of that in my book!", yeah he had all of that in Lord of the Ring but those things weren't the point of Lord of the Ring, the point was to create a mythology, the failings of great men like Boromir and Aragorn, the camaraderie between Frodo and Sam, the nature of good and evil, the weakness of man, how the evil has within itself the seeds of its own destruction, all that literature class the teachers tried pointlessly to instill in our minds when we were kids. Literary fiction is essentially the types of books you had to read for school, if that makes sense.
Genre fiction is one of the most pretentious and arbitrary rules just to put down good literature. I've heard asimov referred to as genre fiction before. Just call the trash that fits into a certain mold what it is, trash. Don't designate everything that has some arbitrary set of qualities beyond the pale.
He considers genre fiction as lesser to proper literature and is rationalizing all the reasons that the Ur Fantasy book somehow doesn't count as genre fiction.
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People who are defensive about liking genre fiction (to clarify - nothing wrong with it as long as you're not being an f-slur about it, hell I personally read the entirety of Wheel of Time and enjoyed it and have no problem admitting it, no shame in turning your brain off and just enjoying entertainment) often point out the nebulousness of the distinction between the two, but I think that's somewhat missing the point. Just because you can categorize pretty much all of literary fiction to specific genres doesn't make it genre fiction. Genre fiction is written with the primary intention of it being genre fiction. You can technically categorize, say, 1984, as science fiction, but when Orwell wrote it his intention wasn't to write a science fiction novel, and people who read it don't read it because it's science fiction. The purpose is what sets it apart.
These are entirely contrived labels in order for people to sneer at novels. Just call them schlock and realize the genre has basically nothing to do with whether something is schlock.
Tolkien first wrote children's lit, then high fantasy, then an a-slur fantasy encyclopedia. His style can best be called 'good Harry Potter.'
Genre fic like The Worm Ouroboros and A Voyage to Acturus had already been shitting up bookstores for twenty years before Tolkien published The Hobbit. Come LoTR time, his friends had had enough of listening to g-slur little dwarves playing grabass friendship, Lovecraft had already died, and L Ron Hubbard had already written, like, 500 fantasy novels.
You can make the argument that Mark Twain wasn't writing genre fic when he wrote his time-travel novel in the 1880s, but bookstores by the fucking 1950s had a pretty good idea of what genre fic was already. Maybe young adult fiction didn't exist yet, but to say that Tolkien thought that he was writing War and Peace is as naïve as saying that he really is a serious writer.
I never meant to imply that Tolkien was working from literally zero and had no influences on himself, if that's what you got from my post? Pretty much every Tolkien fan knows about him and Beowulf, how he wrote Hobbit as a children's book for his own kid, etc.
Yeah, sure, I can see how you'd argue that he's not on Tolstoy level or something like that, but comparing to Harry Potter is just mean spirited and dishonest. If you were asked if Tolkien was closer to (for example) GRRM than to Tolstoy, can you honestly say you would say yes?
I prefer getting whatever book I want instantly and for either free or incredibly cheap. I also like when girls come over to my place for them to see that I don't have a real library so they assume I'm stupid.
tbh I'm not sure how to behave on this sub anymore. Even 24 hours ago I'd have called you something slightly insulting, yet still implying I harbor homosexual fantasies about you. Now, who knows?
Physical books blow, you have to constantly manage pages and physically hold it open or you lose your spot. I'll never go back to reading outdoors without an e-reader, the fucking wind.
I used to do that exclusively until I cracked open a book that had a blood stain on the text. Also my mail carriers kept stuffing the packages in my mailbox so I’d have some rhombus-looking shit for books.
Wait til you get to about books 6-10 ahahahah. I love the series but jesus christ, you might be better off readin the wiki sections for those, and then finishing on the last 4.
6 has Dumai's Wells which is prob one of the best sequences in the series but yeah 7-10 are a slog with just enough plot to make it seem like you need to read all the thinly veiled BDSM fetishism in between
I just finished book 6 and Dumai's Wells was the best part of the book so far. I can't believe they tried to do my boy Rand like that but they got fucked up in the end so that was pretty satisfying.
Same I reread those books so many times as a teenager, really wish Jordan hadn't died. I was happy enough with how it finished but really would have loved to see how he would have done it.
It might be 7 that you are talking about because I'm on page 250 or so and the plot with the Aes Sedai still hasn't caught up to the end of book 6 at Dumai's Wells. It literally starts before the end of book 6, goes until about a day after the Dumai's Wells aftermath, then goes back a month to the Aes Sedai in Salidar. Literally nothing has happened of importance other than a character who is supposed to be dead getting raped and tortured.
That's probably it then. Even the book with Dumai's Wells I feel like I remember being really hard to get through, until it finally got crazy at the end.
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LOTR is worse, it's a fucking snoozefest, just watch the movies and skip wasting hours reading about long walks and linguistic masturbation and food. like ya it was very good at the time, very influential, very epic, dont give a shit. it aged worse than morrowind. it aged worse than seinfeld. absolute slogs
Really? I like her so that doesn’t bother me so much. I also heard they’re moving away from the whole multi wives thing to polyamorous relationships which sounds... interesting.
I like her a lot too but she's not the main character. The only reason I can kind of see them doing that is to not giving away who the Dragon Reborn is.
I also heard they’re moving away from the whole multi wives thing to polyamorous relationships which sounds... interesting.
That's just dumb. Jordan put tons of effort into creating all these unique cultures and people and they are going to change it because polyamory is "in" right now. I'm almost 100% certain this show is going to be a woke disaster. It should have been made 10 years ago.
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I like her a lot too but she's not the main character. The only reason I can kind of see them doing that is to not giving away who the Dragon Reborn is.
I also heard they’re moving away from the whole multi wives thing to polyamorous relationships which sounds... interesting.
That's just disrespectful. Jordan put tons of effort into creating all these unique cultures and peoples and they are going to change it because polyamory is "in" right now. I'm almost 100% certain this show is going to be a woke disaster. It should have been made 10 years ago. If they are going to start changing that much, don't even call it the WoT.
Tbh seeing what they did to the Shannara chronicles and the Sword of Truth series’ I never really have had high hopes. At least GOT hasn’t been too bad though!
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She has a point imo. Not that there's any realistic solution to the "problem", but her frustrations are unexpectedly reasonable compared to title. It's like you're doing moderately well in the special Olympics against other YA fantasy writers, and then in comes the undead lich of Michael Phelps to ruin your hopes and dreams.
Balph Eubank is called "the literary leader of the age", despite the fact that no book he has written has sold more than 3,000 copies. He complains that it is disgraceful that artists are treated as peddlers, and that there should be a law limiting the sales of books to 10,000 copies.
Wow, I really thought this part was a bit too unrealistic. Rand was right again.
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1 WiggityWatchinNews 2019-03-26
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1 SansSoIeiI 2019-03-26
I've seen better ones
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1 Kuonji 2019-03-26
I look back on my time reading her books very FONDA LEE.
oh man!
1 jerryjoneshere 2019-03-26
Man oh man
1 respaaaaaj 2019-03-26
Lol the article calls her out for adding a shelve to Tolkien's count
1 nmx179 2019-03-26
She's a writer not a mather
1 penorio 2019-03-26
But she looks [a-slur]...
1 CJ_from_Grove_St 2019-03-26
1 POST_BUSSY 2019-03-26
Who knew that the most influential fantasy writer ever would have shelves dedicated to him.
1 RecallRethuglicans 2019-03-26
How does it help society for the rich to get richer?
1 nmx179 2019-03-26
By allocating resources based on demonstrated value instead of the feelings of demonstrably worthless people.
1 ironicshitpostr 2019-03-26
"people"
1 RecallRethuglicans 2019-03-26
It’s not about feelings. It’s about spreading diversity.
1 Tzar-Romulus 2019-03-26
Tolkien is diverse you racist. The Fellowship of the Ring, had an elf, a dwarf, men, hobbits, and a wizzard.
1 nmx179 2019-03-26
It's about forcing people to read shitty books instead of the books that people want to read.
Sooner or later Commieism always comes down to this.
1 jubbergun 2019-03-26
Better question: How does it help a bookstore to stock books nobody wants to buy? The reason there's umpteen shelves of Tolkien and Jordan is that people want to buy Tolkien and Jordan. I actually read and I've never heard of Fonda Lee. If we were talking musical acts, this would be like some random one-or-two hit wonder complaining that they aren't as prominently featured at a festival as U2, Foo Fighters, or some other long-time A-list band with a catalog of hits.
This isn't really about money, anyway, you filthy commie P.O.S. It's about Fonda Lee realizing she's never going to measure up to the greats and being a crybaby instead of appreciating and building on the success she already has.
1 RecallRethuglicans 2019-03-26
Who says no one wants to buy them? Why not require people to read those books and learn if they are so bad?
1 jubbergun 2019-03-26
The fact that there's 5 shelves of Tolkien and Jordan and Fonda Lee has a portion of shelf nearby is what our friends in law enforcement would refer to as "a clue."
I know your handlers make require you to wear a helmet, but the rest of us aren't r-slurs like you are so we get to make our own decisions.
1 DespisedByWomen 2019-03-26
Literal nazi shit lmao
1 RecallRethuglicans 2019-03-26
Not hate speech, that should be banned
1 Aivias 2019-03-26
Trickle down pussy.
1 EddingtonDidNothingW 2019-03-26
Sure Tolkien largely influenced the fantasy genre and everything but calling him a fantasy writer is kinda insulting tbh
1 POST_BUSSY 2019-03-26
How else should I refer to him when trying to write a one line sarcastic sentence?
1 XanLV 2019-03-26
Imma need sources on this one, o-slur.
1 EddingtonDidNothingW 2019-03-26
Fantasy is genre fiction. Tolkien wrote literary fiction. Just because fantasy as a genre is largely influenced by Tolkien's works today doesn't mean that Tolkien's works themselves were genre fiction.
I mean yeah obviously today you'd put Tolkien's works into the fantasy section at bookstores and market it as such but but they were not written with the intention of being marketed as fantasy from day one like fantasy genre fiction today is.
1 XanLV 2019-03-26
I read this whole thing four times. I've no idea what you mean and I have a feeling I'm being taken for a ride.
1 EddingtonDidNothingW 2019-03-26
Alright, I'll try to explain further. Let's say I want to write a detective novel. I'll make the main character some smart witty guy like Sherlock Holmes or Hercule Poirot. I'll have it take place during a vacation in some mansion or something like that. I'll have the victim die in a room locked from the inside. I'll have the main character start an investigation, interrogate everyone, and eventually solve the mystery. This is all standard stuff that goes into these types of novels, generic tropes everyone familiar with these kinds of novels knows about. This novel that I wrote is (detective) genre fiction. It doesn't explore any deeper themes, it has no real messages it wants to say, it's literally just casual entertainment for the sake of entertainment, paperback capeshit if you will. It has no "higher" pretensions. The people who buy this novel are going to be fans of the genre who will buy it knowing exactly what they're getting and will buy it specifically because that's what they want. This is, in essence, genre fiction. It's literally written for the sole purpose of appeasing people who like this particular genre (detective novels in this case).
Literary fiction, on the other hand, is, and I apologize for sounding pretentious here, more """serious""" literature. It's literature that explores various themes, the human condition, that includes social commentary, that focuses on the characters and not the plot, etc. When Tolkien set out to write Lord of the Rings, his thought process wasn't "What does fantasy usually include? Dwarves, elves, orcs, wizards, evil overlords and epic battles? Gotta include all of that in my book!", yeah he had all of that in Lord of the Ring but those things weren't the point of Lord of the Ring, the point was to create a mythology, the failings of great men like Boromir and Aragorn, the camaraderie between Frodo and Sam, the nature of good and evil, the weakness of man, how the evil has within itself the seeds of its own destruction, all that literature class the teachers tried pointlessly to instill in our minds when we were kids. Literary fiction is essentially the types of books you had to read for school, if that makes sense.
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1 EddingtonDidNothingW 2019-03-26
Fuck you bot I will never stop ever
1 Pewkie 2019-03-26
Please refrain from using the b-slur
1 aqouta 2019-03-26
Genre fiction is one of the most pretentious and arbitrary rules just to put down good literature. I've heard asimov referred to as genre fiction before. Just call the trash that fits into a certain mold what it is, trash. Don't designate everything that has some arbitrary set of qualities beyond the pale.
1 XanLV 2019-03-26
So the fact that he wrote the book good disqualifies it from the genre of the books he wrote it in.
Got it. Solid.
1 THOT-AUDITOR 2019-03-26
He considers genre fiction as lesser to proper literature and is rationalizing all the reasons that the Ur Fantasy book somehow doesn't count as genre fiction.
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1 KingWayneX 2019-03-26
Youve gone too far
1 tyuijvhvhcfcjf 2019-03-26
That's our word, f-slur.
1 Anus_of_Aeneas 2019-03-26
Jane Eyre and Gulliver's Travels are genre fiction as well as being literature. They're not mutually exclusive cetegories.
1 EddingtonDidNothingW 2019-03-26
People who are defensive about liking genre fiction (to clarify - nothing wrong with it as long as you're not being an f-slur about it, hell I personally read the entirety of Wheel of Time and enjoyed it and have no problem admitting it, no shame in turning your brain off and just enjoying entertainment) often point out the nebulousness of the distinction between the two, but I think that's somewhat missing the point. Just because you can categorize pretty much all of literary fiction to specific genres doesn't make it genre fiction. Genre fiction is written with the primary intention of it being genre fiction. You can technically categorize, say, 1984, as science fiction, but when Orwell wrote it his intention wasn't to write a science fiction novel, and people who read it don't read it because it's science fiction. The purpose is what sets it apart.
1 aqouta 2019-03-26
These are entirely contrived labels in order for people to sneer at novels. Just call them schlock and realize the genre has basically nothing to do with whether something is schlock.
1 tyuijvhvhcfcjf 2019-03-26
r u fuckin srs?
Tolkien first wrote children's lit, then high fantasy, then an a-slur fantasy encyclopedia. His style can best be called 'good Harry Potter.'
Genre fic like The Worm Ouroboros and A Voyage to Acturus had already been shitting up bookstores for twenty years before Tolkien published The Hobbit. Come LoTR time, his friends had had enough of listening to g-slur little dwarves playing grabass friendship, Lovecraft had already died, and L Ron Hubbard had already written, like, 500 fantasy novels.
You can make the argument that Mark Twain wasn't writing genre fic when he wrote his time-travel novel in the 1880s, but bookstores by the fucking 1950s had a pretty good idea of what genre fic was already. Maybe young adult fiction didn't exist yet, but to say that Tolkien thought that he was writing War and Peace is as naïve as saying that he really is a serious writer.
Like come fucking on, guy.
1 EddingtonDidNothingW 2019-03-26
I never meant to imply that Tolkien was working from literally zero and had no influences on himself, if that's what you got from my post? Pretty much every Tolkien fan knows about him and Beowulf, how he wrote Hobbit as a children's book for his own kid, etc.
Yeah, sure, I can see how you'd argue that he's not on Tolstoy level or something like that, but comparing to Harry Potter is just mean spirited and dishonest. If you were asked if Tolkien was closer to (for example) GRRM than to Tolstoy, can you honestly say you would say yes?
1 tyuijvhvhcfcjf 2019-03-26
I would absolutely say that Tolkien is more GRRM than Tolstoy, yes.
1 acidoverbasic 2019-03-26
Why the fuck is this site showing me an ad of some crying kid
1 respaaaaaj 2019-03-26
Its actually just a picture of the author in question
1 SamWhite 2019-03-26
No, a video popped up of some crying child in a car, I got it too.
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1 HardIsLife 2019-03-26
TIL people still go to bookstores.
I just order mine online.
1 SwiftOnSobriety 2019-03-26
Looks like we got ourselves a reeeader.
1 xboxking96 2019-03-26
Wtf this is the third Bill Hicks reference on r/drama I've seen today
1 Its_What_Cows_Crave 2019-03-26
What you readin' for?
1 Acsvf 2019-03-26
Imagine paying for books in 2019 lmao
1 TreLoon 2019-03-26
If by "order" you mean libgen then yeah same
1 gilmore606 2019-03-26
don't tell casuals about libgen i don't want it to go away
1 TreLoon 2019-03-26
Nobody else besides us reads in /r/drama so we gucci
1 jaredschaffer27 2019-03-26
ebook masterrace here
1 JadedPartyOtter 2019-03-26
I can’t get used to ebooks. I just prefer the feel of the real thing.
1 The_DHC 2019-03-26
That was my thought after I rented my first RealDoll
1 JadedPartyOtter 2019-03-26
Has the situation improved or is it back to the ‘real thing’? 🤢
1 XanLV 2019-03-26
So you back to fucking books now?
1 Zozbot 2019-03-26
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1 jaredschaffer27 2019-03-26
I prefer getting whatever book I want instantly and for either free or incredibly cheap. I also like when girls come over to my place for them to see that I don't have a real library so they assume I'm stupid.
1 JadedPartyOtter 2019-03-26
Instant gratification. The curse of modern living smh.
1 jaredschaffer27 2019-03-26
Well considering the item I get instantly usually takes me 5-12 hours to read, usually over a week or so, I'm gonna disagree.
1 JadedPartyOtter 2019-03-26
D-D-Disagree???
1 jaredschaffer27 2019-03-26
tbh I'm not sure how to behave on this sub anymore. Even 24 hours ago I'd have called you something slightly insulting, yet still implying I harbor homosexual fantasies about you. Now, who knows?
1 JadedPartyOtter 2019-03-26
I think I’ve been too serious in this thread so therefore deserve all the insults I get. But yeah it’s weird.
1 aqouta 2019-03-26
Birtch what did you just slur about me?
1 HardIsLife 2019-03-26
I don’t like ebooks. Not in a snobby kind of way. I just like the feeling of physical books.
1 jubbergun 2019-03-26
Me too. If I smack someone with a Kindle or my phone I could damage my electronics. A thick, solid paperback won't break and usually hurts more.
1 Shitposting_Skeleton 2019-03-26
Physical books give me less eyestrain.
1 Dramatictuna 2019-03-26
Same, I get enough hours as is staring at screens.
1 aqouta 2019-03-26
Physical books blow, you have to constantly manage pages and physically hold it open or you lose your spot. I'll never go back to reading outdoors without an e-reader, the fucking wind.
1 BriefSquirt 2019-03-26
Bookcel
1 Van-Diemen 2019-03-26
Gimme your lunch money, nerd 👊
1 Feanorfanclub 2019-03-26
I still go to the local one occasionally, mostly to just browse when bored as a cheap date of sorts.l
1 EasySchmitty 2019-03-26
I used to do that exclusively until I cracked open a book that had a blood stain on the text. Also my mail carriers kept stuffing the packages in my mailbox so I’d have some rhombus-looking shit for books.
1 JadedPartyOtter 2019-03-26
Best places to buy books are charity shops imo. Dirt cheap and good karma because charity.
1 EasySchmitty 2019-03-26
Yea they’re great places to snag some nice hardcovers and less common editions.
1 boyoyoyoyong 2019-03-26
Foids am I right
1 ToTheNintieth 2019-03-26
Wheel of Time isn't even very good
1 NapoleonBonerpart5 2019-03-26
I'm halfway through the series and I like it so far.
1 nybbas 2019-03-26
Wait til you get to about books 6-10 ahahahah. I love the series but jesus christ, you might be better off readin the wiki sections for those, and then finishing on the last 4.
1 hopefullynothingever 2019-03-26
6 has Dumai's Wells which is prob one of the best sequences in the series but yeah 7-10 are a slog with just enough plot to make it seem like you need to read all the thinly veiled BDSM fetishism in between
1 NapoleonBonerpart5 2019-03-26
I just finished book 6 and Dumai's Wells was the best part of the book so far. I can't believe they tried to do my boy Rand like that but they got fucked up in the end so that was pretty satisfying.
1 ToTheNintieth 2019-03-26
It's one of the highlights of the entire series, that's for sure.
1 nybbas 2019-03-26
Ok it's 7-10 then. I always forget, it's been so long. I swear one of those books only like a couple days pass storywise, it's fucking insane.
1 somegurk 2019-03-26
I think 7 is fine too or I liked it anyway 8 is where the series shits the bed.
1 JadedPartyOtter 2019-03-26
Book 8 is the low point for sure but it’s still my favourite fantasy series.
1 somegurk 2019-03-26
Same I reread those books so many times as a teenager, really wish Jordan hadn't died. I was happy enough with how it finished but really would have loved to see how he would have done it.
1 JadedPartyOtter 2019-03-26
Same 100%. Brandon Sanderson did a good job but it just wasn’t the same.
1 NapoleonBonerpart5 2019-03-26
It might be 7 that you are talking about because I'm on page 250 or so and the plot with the Aes Sedai still hasn't caught up to the end of book 6 at Dumai's Wells. It literally starts before the end of book 6, goes until about a day after the Dumai's Wells aftermath, then goes back a month to the Aes Sedai in Salidar. Literally nothing has happened of importance other than a character who is supposed to be dead getting raped and tortured.
1 nybbas 2019-03-26
That's probably it then. Even the book with Dumai's Wells I feel like I remember being really hard to get through, until it finally got crazy at the end.
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1 NapoleonBonerpart5 2019-03-26
Book 6 was pretty exciting. I'm 25% through book 7 and the plot hasn't even caught up with the end of book 6 lmao.
1 ToTheNintieth 2019-03-26
Books 7 through 10 or so are an unbelievable slog
1 running_out_of_alts 2019-03-26
i liked it
1 NapoleonBonerpart5 2019-03-26
You should because they are supposed to be really good and Brandon Sanderson is a great writer even if he is hated on r/drama for some reason.
1 CordialCalamity 2019-03-26
it's a fantasy series of course it isn't
1 Failwood 2019-03-26
Fuck out of here
1 ToTheNintieth 2019-03-26
folds arms under breasts
1 NapoleonBonerpart5 2019-03-26
Puts hands on hips and smooths skirts.
1 Failwood 2019-03-26
Tugs braid.
1 NapoleonBonerpart5 2019-03-26
Fool man. Sniffs loudly.
1 JadedPartyOtter 2019-03-26
Woolheaded lummox.
1 NapoleonBonerpart5 2019-03-26
Say that to me again and I'll box your ears. Knuckles mustache.
1 Magehunter_Skassi 2019-03-26
LOTR is worse, it's a fucking snoozefest, just watch the movies and skip wasting hours reading about long walks and linguistic masturbation and food. like ya it was very good at the time, very influential, very epic, dont give a shit. it aged worse than morrowind. it aged worse than seinfeld. absolute slogs
1 NapoleonBonerpart5 2019-03-26
This might be the worst take I've ever seen.
1 bittah_prophet 2019-03-26
https://i.redd.it/pqafkb6d9ba01.jpg
1 JadedPartyOtter 2019-03-26
Wheel of Time is a fantastic book series. I’m dreading what the TV series is going to be like though.
1 NapoleonBonerpart5 2019-03-26
Moraine is going to be the main character in the first season. So it's not looking good.
1 JadedPartyOtter 2019-03-26
Really? I like her so that doesn’t bother me so much. I also heard they’re moving away from the whole multi wives thing to polyamorous relationships which sounds... interesting.
1 NapoleonBonerpart5 2019-03-26
I like her a lot too but she's not the main character. The only reason I can kind of see them doing that is to not giving away who the Dragon Reborn is.
That's just dumb. Jordan put tons of effort into creating all these unique cultures and people and they are going to change it because polyamory is "in" right now. I'm almost 100% certain this show is going to be a woke disaster. It should have been made 10 years ago.
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1 NapoleonBonerpart5 2019-03-26
I like her a lot too but she's not the main character. The only reason I can kind of see them doing that is to not giving away who the Dragon Reborn is.
I also heard they’re moving away from the whole multi wives thing to polyamorous relationships which sounds... interesting.
That's just disrespectful. Jordan put tons of effort into creating all these unique cultures and peoples and they are going to change it because polyamory is "in" right now. I'm almost 100% certain this show is going to be a woke disaster. It should have been made 10 years ago. If they are going to start changing that much, don't even call it the WoT.
1 JadedPartyOtter 2019-03-26
Tbh seeing what they did to the Shannara chronicles and the Sword of Truth series’ I never really have had high hopes. At least GOT hasn’t been too bad though!
1 KingWayneX 2019-03-26
I lack culture, look what they did to castlevania.
1 JadedPartyOtter 2019-03-26
I need to watch season 2 tbh.
1 Ashleychud 2019-03-26
Lol they’re losing to guys who haven’t put out any new material in forever.
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1 SpacemanSkiff 2019-03-26
Dude gussу lmao.
1 JonSnowgaryen 2019-03-26
The last line of the article says Tolkiens being called racist for his portrayal of Orcs LMFAO
1 mcslibbin 2019-03-26
Tolkien was mad racist but I don't know what orcs have to do with it
1 ironicshitpostr 2019-03-26
He also hated Modernity with a passion
Tolkien and Ted, preach it
1 Firnin 2019-03-26
tolkien was an unironic anarcho-monarchist
1 SvarogsSon 2019-03-26
DESPITE BEING ONLY 15% OF MIDDLE EARTH
1 Ennui2778 2019-03-26
They prefer to be called Orusin, thank you. MODDDSSSS BAN THAT CHUD FOR SAYING O-SLUR!!!!
1 Mrtheliger 2019-03-26
Tbh the only thing Barnes and Noble should be selling is glorious manga
1 InigoKhajit 2019-03-26
How bad do you have to be to be at the top of the privilege list by a mile and still fail to dead people?
1 CordialCalamity 2019-03-26
Fantasy is a meme genre
1 Failwood 2019-03-26
Ur a meme genre
1 Ennui2778 2019-03-26
Are we calling it swordshit or wizardshit?
1 XanLV 2019-03-26
G-sluray.
1 2029393029e9e 2019-03-26
It's kinda retarded to think your unknown book would get more privileges than classic literature that everybody knows about
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1 Magehunter_Skassi 2019-03-26
Twitter bio: Q[slur] romance author#ActuallyAutistic #Ace #Aro #Q[slur] AF & #Kinky #EDS #Fibro Non-Binary, mixed-race Xie/Xem/Xyr/Mx Blood-Bound available
1 Ennui2778 2019-03-26
This would never happen in a proper Caliphate.
1 aqouta 2019-03-26
Words don't mean anything anymore, we've moved past definitions.
1 KingWayneX 2019-03-26
whats ace? Im not duckduckgoing that shit.
Also, of course they have fibromyalgia. UBI for everybody!!!
1 THOT-AUDITOR 2019-03-26
Apparently they're into kink while also professing to not feel sexual attraction.
1 TheDovahofSkyrim 2019-03-26
Honestly the pacing of LOTR is pretty bad, but there’s some things you forgive when you’re being given genius.
1 Chukril 2019-03-26
I can only get through 30 pages of Jordan’s shitty prose before giving up. Dude had his wife as editor and it shows.
1 ModerateThuggery 2019-03-26
She has a point imo. Not that there's any realistic solution to the "problem", but her frustrations are unexpectedly reasonable compared to title. It's like you're doing moderately well in the special Olympics against other YA fantasy writers, and then in comes the undead lich of Michael Phelps to ruin your hopes and dreams.
Also, she cute
1 JadedPartyOtter 2019-03-26
Bitter unknown author bitching about the Wheel of Time series 😤
1 JadedPartyOtter 2019-03-26
Instant gratification. The curse of modern day living smh.
1 Feanorfanclub 2019-03-26
lol literally whos pretending to be not just as good but better than Tolkien.
1 NumerousEvent 2019-03-26
Balph Eubank was right; we should limit book printings to ten thousand copies.
1 MandirKahaBanega 2019-03-26
Wow, I really thought this part was a bit too unrealistic. Rand was right again.
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