You are seemingly intelligent enough to think of a witty Reddit name and even put a little clever flair next to it, yet this escapes you? Sweaty, go to an evening class or something....
When did I endorse open borders? I'm mocking the contradictions within the libertarian worldview, at least in the American context.
American libertarians aren't libertarians 99% of the time, they're anarcho-capitalists/extremely conservative and don't want to identify as such. Real libertarians don't spend so much time reeing about borders, for example.
I think that's because many libertarians, whether they admit it or not, are imagining their libertarian paradise in a white society. That's why so many of them end up turning fash despite the obvious contradiction. By thinking that way they end up believing that libertarianism can only really be implemented and maintained by white people. I don't know how true it actually is but it's definitely the case that libertarianism finds most of its support amongst whites. Nothing against many of the ideas behind libertarianism tbh but there's my hot take.
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its the Molymeme logic, only whites can achieve libertarianism, because blacks are inherently stupid due to not supporting Trump and the GOP very much, so the only way of implementing anarcho-capitalist society is to shoot any black person approaching you and recreating all your cities into gated communities essentially lol
you can just have a waiting period of 5-10 years before you receive any welfare benefits like the US does and still reasonably open immigration system you know
Yeah, Brennan wrote an open borders book, Caplan is also publishing one this year. Also afaik this website is founded by libertarian scholars: https://openborders.info
All of the libertarians who are worth listening are pro-immigration. Even Tyler Cowen (who doesn't like the idea of open borders) is for relaxed immigration laws. BUUUUUT, most of the libertarians online are against it.
Freedom of movement but only for white people. Non aggression principle applies to unborn children but not to ones that are born, it's ok to fuck those ones as long as there is "consent".
it was really interesting in 2016 to see the Gary Johnson libertarian old-guard get sabotaged by the politically irrelevant and inexperienced new guard who built their careers by pwning libtards. They really blew their one shot at having any national relevance, even if Johnson was a pu55y
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1 SnapshillBot 2019-03-30
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1 IDFSHILL 2019-03-30
Lmao, I love how American libertarians will constantly make arguments like this, then turn around and express rabid anti-immigrant views.
Guess "liberty" only applies to people born within arbitrary lines.
1 Iowa_Hawkeye 2019-03-30
Welfare state or open borders.
You can only have one.
1 IDFSHILL 2019-03-30
When did I endorse open borders? I'm mocking the contradictions within the libertarian worldview, at least in the American context.
American libertarians aren't libertarians 99% of the time, they're anarcho-capitalists/extremely conservative and don't want to identify as such. Real libertarians don't spend so much time reeing about borders, for example.
1 Iowa_Hawkeye 2019-03-30
I'm pointing out what the mainstream libertarian thought on the issue is.
Thx for the blogpost tho
1 IDFSHILL 2019-03-30
Libertarians don't want a welfare state, so how is that the mainstream libertarian thought?
1 Wolkenfresser 2019-03-30
I think that's because many libertarians, whether they admit it or not, are imagining their libertarian paradise in a white society. That's why so many of them end up turning fash despite the obvious contradiction. By thinking that way they end up believing that libertarianism can only really be implemented and maintained by white people. I don't know how true it actually is but it's definitely the case that libertarianism finds most of its support amongst whites. Nothing against many of the ideas behind libertarianism tbh but there's my hot take.
1 IDFSHILL 2019-03-30
The GOP spotted this from the very start and framed and lined racial arguments with anti-government sentiment.
The FBI talked about this a while back with extremist groups:
There's a long history of this in the US.
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/06/racial-resentment-motivates-opposition-to-welfare/562010/
1 Tytos_Lannister 2019-03-30
its the Molymeme logic, only whites can achieve libertarianism, because blacks are inherently stupid due to not supporting Trump and the GOP very much, so the only way of implementing anarcho-capitalist society is to shoot any black person approaching you and recreating all your cities into gated communities essentially lol
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2019-03-30
^ Found the pedo
1 Tytos_Lannister 2019-03-30
lol that's a stupid Molymeme talking point
you can just have a waiting period of 5-10 years before you receive any welfare benefits like the US does and still reasonably open immigration system you know
1 SpiceAndEvNice 2019-03-30
Not sure about what American lolbertarians believe, but literally every single libertarian literature is for open borders.
1 IDFSHILL 2019-03-30
Most libertarians in the US are of the "immigration is terrible" variety.
1 aduketsavar 2019-03-30
Yeah, Brennan wrote an open borders book, Caplan is also publishing one this year. Also afaik this website is founded by libertarian scholars: https://openborders.info
All of the libertarians who are worth listening are pro-immigration. Even Tyler Cowen (who doesn't like the idea of open borders) is for relaxed immigration laws. BUUUUUT, most of the libertarians online are against it.
1 TheLastCrawler 2019-03-30
This but unironically
1 DoesntSmellLikePalm 2019-03-30
Freedom of movement but only for white people. Non aggression principle applies to unborn children but not to ones that are born, it's ok to fuck those ones as long as there is "consent".
it was really interesting in 2016 to see the Gary Johnson libertarian old-guard get sabotaged by the politically irrelevant and inexperienced new guard who built their careers by pwning libtards. They really blew their one shot at having any national relevance, even if Johnson was a pu55y
1 AnnoysTheGoys 2019-03-30
Lolbertarians in currentYear+n: The State should ban abortion
1 CPT_Clarnence 2019-03-30
"lolibertarian" is a better name, IMHO.
1 le_epic_xd_part_2 2019-03-30
Damn ur right. I'll keep it mind for the next time
1 Bouquet_of_seaweed 2019-03-30
I think that's the head mod of the conservative subreddit.