Actual for realsy-reals lawyer/lobbyist allegedly violates NDA to gain internet spaceship money in EVE Online, threatens legal action, community dabs to the beat of the drama

287  2019-04-09 by StingAuer

EVE Online has an elected council called the Council of Stellar Management (CSM), which serves to consult CCP (Icelandic spaceship videogame company) on how potential changes to the game may affect the playerbase.

User Brisc Rubal, real name Brian Schoeneman, is a Maritime Law Lobbyist in the United States of America, as per his CSM Campaign Video ( I shit you not )

additionally, PCGamer article on the event

As part of the CSM, he had to sign an NDA, because of the insider information he gains access to from CCP directly.

Brisc Rubal, AKA Brian Schoeneman, has been permanently banned from EVE and ejected from the CSM, as he has allegedly violated this NDA.

Official CCP announcement of his ban: https://www.eveonline.com/article/ppne2z/brisc-rubal-removed-from-the-csm-13?origin=launcher

Allegedly, he told one of his alliance buddies that a certain expensive and powerful ship was getting nerfed, so that the buddy could sell the ship at the existing price instead of the reduced post-nerf price.

Basically, it's insider trading, but dumber, with fake money and real consequences.

Why does this have real-life ramifications? You see, being a lawyer, Brisc/Brian must report any and all instances of contract violations he is involved in (and other such matters) to his State BAR Association. This, naturally, puts him at risk of being investigated and disbarred, among other legal consequences.

Brisc/Brian has made a public statement denying the allegations on /r/EVE https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/bazjd6/official_statement_of_brisc_rubal_on_removal_and/

I will update this thread, or post additional threads, as more information comes forward and the situation develops.

Fly safe o7

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Drama posting as a whole rots your brain, the sub is easily one of the most transphobic subreddits filled with Enlightened centrists and alt-light trolls, the mod team is a bunch of weirdo nominally left succdems who post on Stupidpol about how they're the bastion of left thought.

One of them made a post about how they used to be a SJW but alienated all their friends and family and now decries idpol, when in reality they're probably just insufferable to be around

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wow this is a great post, upvoted and shared

thx

He’s fucking with you; nothing matters, this is meaningless, you bottom feed video game drama, why are you still extant?

aw

No dw baby ilu

Narrows was rude ty for post bb

Incredibly rude

New heights of doxxing

my post was better

literally shaking rn

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This is way better than both "I'm not your stuck fleet, you're my stuck fleet" and "Dude, where's my cyno blocker?" from last year, although my fave is still "Confessions of a botter"

Yeah, but when we get video game lawyers for Second Life so I finally get a divorce from my three cocked wife?

o I finally get a divorce from my three cocked wife?

Why??? Did you find a four cocked one?

Holy shit this is juicy. It takes a special brand of smoothbrain to so closely link your irl lawyer/lobbyist persona to your vidya persona.

Also lol @ including his 5 seconds as a talking head on FOX in his campaign video for space vidya

He just wanted to throw around his lawyer clout so he could be a fake space senator. Which is hilarious because now the dude has real life negative press from being a fake space senator

Imagine potentially ruining your career as a lawyer to help your buddy in a videogame. Gameshit not even once.

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Gaymer is r-slurred enough to sacrifice his career for vidya

>(R)

Conservautism strikes again!

Unironically great post, /u/StingAuer

thx

g*mers

absolutely disgusting

day of the broken controller when

day of the dad unplugged the xbox

g*mers having dads

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Less than 5% of reddit is basketball americans, so statistically...

to add a little bit to this, the amount of gain from something like this could be anywhere like 20 billion isk? and 20 billion isk is worth something like $250, which is probably two hours or less at this guy's job. all of his accounts got banned, which are worth thousands of hours of playtime, and probably thousands of dollars. so he lost: thousands of $, thousands of hours, put his reputation/job at risk... in order to earn his buddy a couple hundred bucks. excellent risk/reward on this transaction.

Omg you actually know the ISK to USD exchange rate off the top of your head. Nerd alert! 😂😂😂

the game devs themselves sell ISK so its not that complicated. $20 gets you about 2 bill isk

I only played briefly years ago, but I was fascinated by the way that they bring real world money into the game's economy. The typical MMO model seems to be to have lots of free to play players to make sure there's a big population but then rely on the small percentage of whales who buy cosmetics. A*tism Eve Online making game time be a commodity within the game is interesting.

You mean like a dozen other mmo out there?

WoW has had WoW tokens (game time purchasable with gold) for a while now

Nerd

Nerd

Nerd

Nerd

this is g*mer opppression

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Nerds owned epic style

Thank you

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STOP!

Nerd

As an attorney and a public figure in the United States

Did you really just call yourself a public figure when you would have otherwise had a colorable claim for defamation if the allegations turn out to be false? Good luck proving actual malice. You're an attorney, you should know better......

😂

Thinking public figures can't sue for defamation lol

It's incredibly harder though.

Good luck proving actual malice.

lrn2reed

Space weeb politics. What is going on.

Eve Online getting someone disbarred. It continues to reach new heights of drama.

Reminder that people have majored in accounting because they picked up the basic skill set playing this “game”.

We are to nerds what nerds are to real people

We need to ping that r/drama poster who kept bragging about being hired by a Fortune 500 company after putting "WoW Raid Leader" on his resume

to provide a fellow player with an unfair advantage in the game.

Strange that he knows exactly why they did it after claiming they never told him.

The ban announcement lays out the reason for the ban in the first paragraph. It's only strange if he made that thread before the announcement, but I'm not seeing a way to check the post time on it.

/u/deltaxi65

In what sense is you being a lobbyist supposed to be a sign of good character? Why do Republicans always turn out to be abject dipshits?

agenda posting

Sweaty be better

disgusting agenda post

Unfortunately, I don't think this will have real consequences, because nobody cares about the 36th chamber of hyper 'tism that is EVE Online and state bar association s have better things to do than concern themselves with lawyers playing pretend spaceship games.

Violating a NDA is not trivial, even if the information it is protecting is trivial.

Gaymers literally can't stop themselves from fucking themselves over.

Texas. Law.

wow mods not stickying my post too

SEETHING

Zoz

What if EVE Online is reality and we’re the video game?

EVE Online continues to spill into RL drama for what 15 years now?

Why does this have real-life ramifications? You see, being a lawyer, Brisc/Brian must report any and all instances of contract violations he is involved in (and other such matters) to his State BAR Association. This, naturally, puts him at risk of being investigated and disbarred, among other legal consequences.

lolno.

First of all, you don't have to report breaches of contract to the bar. At most, you have to report yourself if you're convicted of a crime (typically just felonies and crimes involving moral turpitude), or if you're disciplined by another state bar.

Beyond that, I've never heard of anyone getting disbarred for breaching a personal contract on one occasion. I would expect that to be a public reprimand, at most. You have to do something really dumb to get disbarred -- like stealing money from a client trust account. Being an r-slur g-slur isn't enough.

violating an NDA is a big deal

It's really not.

Eh, sex stuff will get you disbarred too.

Heard about some idiot who got disbarred for advertising a job posting for a combination secretary/mistress. For himself AND his law partner.

Yeah — like I said, you have to do something pretty dumb. Sex stuff can definitely do it. Some of the best disbarments I’ve heard about:

  • someone got disbarred because he made a fake dating profile for (overweight) opposing counsel, saying that her favorite thing is buffets.
  • another got disbarred for repeatedly faking heart attacks to get out of trial.
  • when a couple of Florida shock jocks (one of them being Bubba the Love Sponge, the guy whose wife Hulk Hogan fucked in the Gawker sex tape) sued each other, one side used a paralegal as a honeypot to get the other side arrested for DUI. There were 3 lawyers involved, all of whom got disbarred.
  • in the sentencing phase of a murder trial, a lawyer’s argument was “whoever did this deserves the death penalty”...apparently he forgot that the jury literally just said that they think his client did that beyond a reasonable doubt. He showed up to his disciplinary hearing dressed up like Thomas Jefferson, and admitted that he was incompetent. Disbarred.

I voted for this guy

Lol imagine destroying your career over a video game.

Hm on second thought that is probably pretty common.

Allegedly, he told one of his alliance buddies that a certain expensive and powerful ship was getting nerfed, so that the buddy could sell the ship at the existing price instead of the reduced post-nerf price.

Ok if this is actually what happened can you tell me specifically where it was mentioned? There's been a lot of chatter about what he might have leaked & I'm interested in seeing how petty it was. (Rorqs went down in value like 1-1.5b depending on fit so unless shines offloaded a massive armada of 'em, this didn't save much time at all. I don't think either him or pando had a krab super.)

There was another person involved and the leak supposedly went like this: Spaceshit Lawyer -> Group member -> Group member who profited. Tried reading up on it a bit, but it's kind of weird that nobody knows the name of the third player. Unless I skipped over it thinking it was some Eve jargon.

Man you're like 12 whole hours behind on the breaking news! Persons 2 and 3 are pando and dark shines. Not sure in which order though

I tried to get into that game but couldn't Those people are more crazy than WoW players.