In before stackoverflow developer survey being toxic and misogynistic
1 2019-04-10 by HardIsLife
https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019
When thinking about blockers to productivity, different kinds of developers report different challenges. Men are more likely to say that being tasked with non-development work is a problem for them, while gender minority respondents are more likely to say that toxic work environments are a problem.
..., in our survey this year, 11% of US respondents identify as women, but data from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics estimates that women’s participation in the software developer workforce is about twice that, more like 20%.
Developers who are data scientists or academic researchers are about 10 times more likely to be men than women, while developers who are system admins or DevOps specialists are 25-30 times more likely to be men than women. Women have the highest representation as front-end developers, designers, data scientists, data analysts, QA or test developers, scientists, and educators.
Damn, so many non binary in coding
https://i.imgur.com/rOA9O3z.jpg
Mayo problem 🙄
https://i.imgur.com/Z5E8Nes.jpg
It’s because of toxic mayo environment 😤
https://i.imgur.com/Snko93i.jpg
You have it with stats, folks. Programmers flock to redddit
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1 Redactor0 2019-04-10
So the kind of sp*rgs who love dealing with the linux command line are more likely to be men? What's next? Are you gonna tell me that men are more likely to be on the spectrum?
1 phitshoster 2019-04-10
Huh? Gonna agendapost? Post some statistics maybe? Gonna use logic and reason?
1 HardIsLife 2019-04-10
Your opinion as a man isn’t really needed here tho
1 michaelisnotginger 2019-04-10
Dev Ops and using the command line? What is this 2002?
1 WombTattoo 2019-04-10
t. someone who needs a graphical git interface
1 michaelisnotginger 2019-04-10
I've never met a simple task a devops team wouldn't build another configuration mgmt system for
1 Lysis10 2019-04-10
Look at me I'm so badass for not using a mouse I like command lines like a REAL DEVELOPER MAN. ------------------> gets hacked within three seconds of connecting to the Internet.
1 employee10038080 2019-04-10
I'm a full stack developer, and the waman on my team are definitely incompetent. Not sure if it's just because their dumb or what. And the men on my team, probably including me, think there's better than they actually are.
Out of our team of 12 people, 7 are waman because of diversity and all that. If only 20% of developers are waman, then it only makes sense you're gonna scrape from the bottom of the barrel if you want a 50/50 split.
1 HardIsLife 2019-04-10
Hey, I’m a waman 🙄😒🤬👏🏻
1 shitpersonality 2019-04-10
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1 HardIsLife 2019-04-10
Serious reply.
I genuinely hate quotas. I would probably get a job at Google if I applied and if things went south in the future, I might have to but it’s really my last resort. I don’t want to be judged constantly by male colleagues and have them wondering if I was really competent enough for my hypothetical position.
I have developed a bit of imposter symptom over the years because of this. I have never missed a deadline and no matter how difficult the projects were, I always delivered but there’s a tiny voice telling me in my head that I had it easy because I’m a waman. There was a time where I lost all confidence in my coding skills when my picture was blasted internally as one of the “talented women” when I was just a fresh grad who had accomplished absolutely nothing. Made me wonder if I was hired for a quota. To disprove that I worked so hard. Did overtime every other day and worked on the weekends too. I also did backend to prove others that I could do that.
Then, I realized that I was so unhappy and I would rather be with my boyfriend instead of coding until 3am in the morning. I would rather be doing frontend because there’s where my passion is. Only when I stopped caring and with words of encouragement from my male colleagues, I got out of the mindset for the most part.
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1 employee10038080 2019-04-10
You're right longpostbot 😔. Looks like I'm not getting reddit nudes
1 employee10038080 2019-04-10
I get where you're coming from and I'm sure you're a great developer. I was just talking about my team, which uses quotas (not officially but everyone knows it's true). By no means am I saying all waman are bad at coding. My boss for example, is a waman and she's actually amazing, helped me learn a lot when I was hired out of college.
It's just that most developers are men, and when you hire an equal amount of women as men, the chances of getting a competent employee decreases, purely statistically.
1 HardIsLife 2019-04-10
I agree with ya and quotas really don’t have help wamen at all. I know that there are some opportunists who love the quota system because it boosts them up to places they would never qualify. It undermines honest hardworking wamen.
I personally know a waman programmer from college who basically jumped on the smartest guy in class and dated him so he would do all the projects for her. She just sat around eating snacks all day throughout all semesters. She graduated with pretty good grades and after that, guess where she got a job? The company her boyfriend was already at. It’s obvious who’s gonna be actually coding over there 🤷🏻♀️
Some wamen can be bad people too. We are not all innocent helpless victims being repressed by the patriarchy. People don’t seem to realize that.
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1 HardIsLife 2019-04-10
I agree with ya and quotas really don’t help wamen at all. I know that there are some opportunists who love the quota system because it boosts them up to places they would never qualify. It undermines honest hardworking wamen.
I personally know a waman programmer from college who basically jumped on the smartest guy in class and dated him so he would do all the projects for her. She just sat around eating snacks all day throughout all semesters. I honestly never saw her code even one line. She graduated with pretty good grades and after that, guess where she got a job? The company her boyfriend was already at. It’s obvious who’s gonna be actually coding over there.
Some wamen can be bad people too. We are not all innocent helpless victims being repressed by the patriarchy. People don’t seem to realize that.
1 employee10038080 2019-04-10
Haha I feel like every CS major knows that girl. We had a girl that would flirt with anyone and everyone to get code.
But what can you gonna do? People are gonna take every opportunity they get to further their goals.
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1 jacc1337 2019-04-10
This is the equivalent of the I was too smart for high school btw
Not 👏like👏other👏girls👏
Did the smart guy reject you 😂
1 HardIsLife 2019-04-10
How? I literally became a stereotypical fëmale programmer who’s in frontend 😔 and who wants work life balance
1 jacc1337 2019-04-10
Smart 👏 but👏lazy👏
1 HardIsLife 2019-04-10
Eh, as long as I get my shit done. I don’t need to be another hipster developer who uses the latest niche frameworks resulting in not being able to debug in the middle of the project due to lack of community support, codes everything from scratch and never finishes their work on time.
1 jacc1337 2019-04-10
Could totally get a job at Google if I wanted to but don't want to btw 👏
1 HardIsLife 2019-04-10
Yeah, it’s because I don’t want to work with men like you who display toxic masculinity 😤😤
1 jacc1337 2019-04-10
No time for toxic masculinity in top places you are busy working, also takes the slightest HR complaint to get thrown out and replaced
Stop 👏making 👏excuses👏 for👏being 👏 mediocre
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1 Vurtizontal 2019-04-10
Me. Mostly cause i dont care about my job besides it being a job. Why do boses expect to "grow". Motherfucker just pay and let me go, fuck i wish we could still get a sinple factory job and make money like back in the day. Sorry im ranting.
1 CCAlkie 2019-04-10
Fuckin' same. I get that you're super passionate about this, Boss, but at the end of the day, I can't get paid to sit on my ass and play video games for most of the day so I guess I'll do this.
1 prince_of_prussia1 2019-04-10
Frontend lmao yeah ur not resoected
1 Vurtizontal 2019-04-10
Off topic question. Are you cute? Do you have cute feet?
1 VidiotGamer 2019-04-10
I'm seriously impressed by this. Even if we were willing to hire absolute ret🅰rds I'm not sure we even get enough resumes from femmeroids to fill 20% of our seats.
It would basically be something like, "Do you have a pulse? You're hired!"
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1 employee10038080 2019-04-10
Surprised to see 72% 👦. Half the people I work with are Indian or Chinese
1 kokkelis32145 2019-04-10
all the mayos have flown away to white supremacist racist corps that don't hire p-slurs or c-slurs.
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1 none_to_remain 2019-04-10
Nón-wh*te: going on Stack Overflow to find information, enabling productivity.
Mayo be problem: going on Stack Overflow to fill out surveys.
1 mordorderly 2019-04-10
The first statement only applies to Honorary-Aryans. Currycels are on there for one of two reasons:
To answer questions incorrectly with incomprehensible sentences and broken frankencode
To frantically learn the basics of coding because they transferred to a Burgertopia graduate degree program with absolutely no training
1 YpipoRghey 2019-04-10
https://i.imgur.com/Y94TWel.jpg
All the computer nerds love to suck off Elon musk
1 Wololol0w 2019-04-10
More v surprised by nearly 3% thinking they will have an impact lol
1 whenweriiide 2019-04-10
Lmao fourth on the list is me/myself. Talk about a field absolutely chock-full of r-slurred narcissists
1 VidiotGamer 2019-04-10
tfw Donald Knuth isn't on that list
1 Vurtizontal 2019-04-10
Dude is literary gonna take humanity to Mars. Gotta give him some credit.
1 mordorderly 2019-04-10
That's exactly right - Musk will only bring apes to Mars in fiction.
1 ObnoxiousFactczecher 2019-04-10
Every time someone on the Internet uses the word "tech", I cringe. Sometimes it feels like we jumped from fire to mobile phones and nothing else exists anymore. How could anyone end up with such a tunnel vision of what our world is actually based on?
1 Crazyfeet104 2019-04-10
How long do you think it took a meeting room full of people to agree on that term? The word is "women".
1 HardIsLife 2019-04-10
Wow, take your gender binary norms and GTFO of here, sweaty. Obviously, you didn’t even bother to read the highlights I included. One of the screenshots include gender statistics and there was a ton of non-binary participants in the survey 🙄
1 Redactor0 2019-04-10
I can't believe we're even still having this conversation in 2019. 😠😠😠
1 HardIsLife 2019-04-10
CancelMen
1 A096B47B281BAA38 2019-04-10
Of course there is, every t-slur who adds some shitty code of conduct to an open source project thinks they are a developer. That's why at my company we have an unofficial policy to never higher them, they are a nightmare to work with, at least the wamen only get bitchy when we change the API on short notice.
1 nanonan 2019-04-10
In unrelated news, 99 out of 100 nerdlinger dorks are male.
1 Wolkenfresser 2019-04-10
I am by no means a good programmer (DUDE PYTHON LMAO) but I've found that lots of beautiful brave non-men simply cannot function without being told explicitly what to do and as a result they hate open ended exercises like writing code.
1 HardIsLife 2019-04-10
Can you give some examples?
1 aX10mAt1CaL1Y 2019-04-10
Have you heard of C+=?
1 Jukk 2019-04-10
Is that the gender-equal version of C++?
1 mygoodpostingalt 2019-04-10
unironically yes
1 Wolkenfresser 2019-04-10
At least four girls have said exactly that to me. They like it when they know what to do but it seems to me their appetite for problem solving is low. That's probably because they gave less of a shit in the first place and also because of wmens general indecisiveness/perfectionism, not because they're dmb. (Well a little cuz they're d*mb)
1 HardIsLife 2019-04-10
Is it possible because they were coddled their whole lives or they are very junior?
I was thrown into the deep end of the pool since college (typical Asian getting into good uni and getting panic attacks from not getting A+). When I first started working as a programmer, they just gave me a full stack project to do and I had to figure it out myself. So, I’m used to the unpredictable events and being put in the middle of things I know nothing about. I’m often very zen about this kind of thing now.
It did affect me quite a bit at first though. There’s always a way to resolve it anyway. After a while, I gained enough self confidence to just go with the flow.
1 VidiotGamer 2019-04-10
You're probably an autismo, which basically makes you a man. Welcome to the club.
1 HardIsLife 2019-04-10
Yeah, I’m seriously probably on the spectrum. I get really obsessed over certain things for years.
1 VidiotGamer 2019-04-10
The great thing about autismos is that it works both way - women autismos turn into nerds and male autismos turn into tr🅰🅰🅰nies.
That gap just keeps narrowing and narrowing.
1 dart200c 2019-04-10
so ... if you can't attract one, just become your own?!
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1 VidiotGamer 2019-04-10
Literally 90% of gender trenders are supreme gentlemen that are going, "I am cute grill now!"
1 dart200c 2019-04-10
and then they take those gender horrormones and become even more entitled ...
1 THOT-AUDITOR 2019-04-10
They're also the ones pushing for preteens to troon out because they resent the fact that their plan to turn into the magical anime grill would've gone better had they done it earlier.
1 ObnoxiousFactczecher 2019-04-10
Heretic! I'm on the commodore, like all normal people.
1 Wolkenfresser 2019-04-10
Yeah it's not a programming degree so we were just given a very rigid course on data analysis using python. From that little taster it's clear its mostly dudes who have gained any sort of interest in it whereas the girls were happy following along when they had to but the moment they didn't they stopped. Of course the need to program pops up occasionally and this is when you hear the "ooo idk about that I'm good when I know what I'm doing but I'm nottt surrreeee" whereas lots of guys have continued to practise out of interest and as a result are much more skilled. This then cements the idea in the mind of the w*man that they can't code. Obviously they can it's just most don't give a fuck and would rather watch crime documentaries in their free time.
1 HardIsLife 2019-04-10
Oh, yeah, I would rather cuddle with my boyfriend and watch Netflix than spending my free time on stackoverflow. I like having work life balance and life isn’t all about coding. I’ve seen guys who get so obsessed over coding that they do it day in and out. I’m not that kind of person. However, it bothers me when I can’t solve something though like I wouldn’t be able to go to sleep unless it’s resolved.
1 Vurtizontal 2019-04-10
Can i become a programmer without a degree? I literary just want a 9 to 5 , Monday through Friday. My dream is to be a simple code monkey making like 65k a year.
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2019-04-10
not really, they're just overrepresented in the set of people who spend more time posting about coding and going to conferences and tweeting and shit like that instead of just getting the work done
your average coder is a 9-5 family man who couldn't care less about reading much less taking gender representation surveys or /r/ProgrammerHumor or what have you
1 HardIsLife 2019-04-10
lol assuming broprgammers could get laid lol
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2019-04-10
your average coder in America is not a brogrammer
have you ever lived or worked outside the valley
1 HardIsLife 2019-04-10
Seen one mayo brogrammer and you’ve seen it all.
1 grep_var_log 2019-04-10
I'm gonna programme my dick into your mouth.
1 HardIsLife 2019-04-10
Wow, so tiny. It’s like sucking on air 😂
1 grep_var_log 2019-04-10
Getting you used to the braps for your dessert.
1 XakeMarte 2019-04-10
That's I/O
1 cptnhaddock 2019-04-10
I honestly don't think brogrammerrs exist. The programmers in the valley are only bros if you consider every young straight male a bro. Its honestly just a huge pack of autists
1 Lysis10 2019-04-10
I've been to Googleplex and there are a lot of brogrammers (lots of straightup nerds too but they are usually older). I always figured it was because silicon valley is its own weird country.
1 cptnhaddock 2019-04-10
Those are probably sales guys
1 JustStopDude 2019-04-10
I love the belief that employed people spend their free time posting, blogging, and taking surveys about their job...because if there is one thing that employed people want to do in their off time...its rambling about their job.
Can't possibly be a bunch of unemployed losers role playing on the internet...
1 jacc1337 2019-04-10
We do it instead of working
1 JustWannaGrill 2019-04-10
1 MagicHoudini 2019-04-10
The irony
1 ObnoxiousFactczecher 2019-04-10
They're the twos in the world of ones and zeroes.
1 ObnoxiousFactczecher 2019-04-10
That's ages, not percentages (obviously not percentages since they don't add up to 100, dummy). The percentages are 91.7, 7.9, and 1.2, respectively.