I'm not even sure what your point is. Yeah I'd rather sleep with a dakimakura of my waifu Renge-chan than with some random 3D slut but that doesn't mean I'm desperate, it's the opposite, it implies that I have standards.
You know what the worst part is? My wife is an engineer for a large aerospace company. She has several coworkers who are rabid InfoWars followers. They are also engineers, mostly with Master degrees. And they go, “yep, that sounds right,” when listening to IW.
Also, I know a guy from high-school who listens to InfoWars. Really smart dude, he's in law school now, but I'll never understand why he listens to the gay-frogs guy.
Law school attracts some crazies. We had a girl who was really into the libertarian thing. She somehow took a moot court assignment on slip and falls and morphed it into legalizing children consenting. It made the moot court questions interesting fornonce.
I was judging a high school moot court championship once about constitutional law. The question was supposed to be about speech codes, and how one shit kid wasn't actually bullying another one. But one kid conceded that, while the student was bullying the other student, he had a right to be a bully protected by the Forst Amendment.
Those engineers listen to him so they are able to feel smart and smug about everything in life, not just engineering. They are too used to being the smartest ones in the room and when they have a gap in knowledge they have to go completely overboard to take back that standing of superior intelligence. Classic low self esteem mentality,
Engineering education is actually quite detached from the norms in the academia/scientific community. In terms of university education, science vs. engineering is like economics vs. business. Business school types and engineers have a lot more in common than they are willing to admit.
Every year at the APS meeting there is a conference room (general theory or general physics depending on the year) for those cringe “physicists” who claim they’ve proved quantum mechanics to be false or some shit like that, just to stop them from whining about APS being elitist. It’s fun watching retired engineers having a go at physics.
Yeah, a huge amount of training in the pure and some applied sciences, probably the most important of all if you're going into any kind of research, involves engaging with other people's ideas/research and finding flaws and/or using the ideas to generate new ones. imo every kid should be forced to learn these skills but even most college students don't get the support they need to develop them. Because engineering is difficult and engineers are perceived to be smart, engineering students tend to walk away from school with a exaggerated sense of what they're capable of intellectually, which makes them susceptible to adopting ridiculous beliefs that call for simple explanations and solutions to complex problems and susceptible to being manipulated by people and ideas that stroke their ego.
9/10 engineers walked out the first real math course understanding on a deep level we're garbage at math, and the first real physics course understanding on a deep level we're also garbage at physics. We actually walk away exaggerated senses of what we're capable of intellectually 'cause we get paid more than the autists who actually get that shit.
which makes them susceptible to adopting ridiculous beliefs that call for simple explanations and solutions to complex problems and susceptible to being manipulated by people and ideas that stroke their ego.
Why do people insist on psychoanalyzing us like we're some alien species, honestly. That quote is absolutely true, but only in the sense it also literally applies to 90% of all humans. Its not like the humanities people stop themselves from coming up shiny new theories on why actually people who vote for lower taxes are subhuman or something.
but only in the sense it also literally applies to 90% of all humans.
I've grown up around engineers, worked with engineers, taught engineers etc and can tell you with great certainty that when engineers fuck up their thinking it tends to be in a very specific way.
Its not like the humanities people stop themselves from coming up with / subscribing to shiny new theories on why actually people who vote for lower taxes are subhuman or something.
They can and do but the way there aren't many types of people who seem to have such a distinct and consistent method of botching their thought. The only ones I can think of off the top of my head are ___ studies and soft sociology people, and maybe non-continental philosophy majors because they tend to have specific issues with practical thinking. And maybe psych BAs who aren't pursuing further education. But the interaction between the average engineer's training, problem-solving methods, hubris, and disdain for anything that isn't considered 'hard' enough makes things go wrong in a very unique way.
You should be happy; the rest of us think poorly in generic ways but you are special :-)
But the interaction between the average engineer's training, problem-solving methods, hubris, and disdain for anything that isn't considered 'hard' enough makes things go wrong in a very unique way.
Oh I absolutely don't doubt that when nutty and possibly semi-senile engineers do their thing it tends to follow a certain unique pattern. Was mostly trying to #notallengineers tbh.
You're getting confused bud. The water turns the frogs gay. Reptilian shapeshifters rule over this dimension, after the emergence day (when the reptilian shapeshifters left their huge cities underneath the earth's crust). But who do you think is calling the shots outside of this bubble of a universe? Interdimensional space wizards, that's who. They use their crystal balls to communicate with the reptilians, who then pull the strings, mostly via the U S government. This is mostly basic information to the denizens of InfoWars™, a bit too hard to grasp by the standard libtard like yourself. Have you not seen the videos? They're is clear evidence of Hillarys reptilian cloaking device failing ON TV. You libtards try to write this off as "compression artifacts" due to "low bit rate" or whatever techno mumbo jumbo you libs use. But i? I know the truth. Wake up bud, because soon enough youll be realizing its too late.
American rightoid gone, is how far gone. Like I really don't think normies fully understand how insane the right is in the united states.
I'm not talking about the establishment types either, the Romneys, for example. I'm talking about the base.
So what happened is years and years ago the GOP realized they had an intellectual rot problem. They weren't doing well in academia, they were losing cultural battles over and over again. So they decided to heavily invest in creating a "siege narrative."
The narrative goes that, conservatives aren't wrong, but everything mainstream is rigged against them. Science is rigged against them, math is rigged against them, the UN is rigged against them, education is rigged against them, the media is rigged against them, law enforcement is rigged against them and etc etc.
So what this ended up doing is cause a large number of American conservatives to turn to sources they didn't view as "rigged against them." The only problem is, the sources they consider "fair" tend to be completely unhinged shit like Alex Jones or various internet blogs that pedal right-wing conspiracies.
The end result is clear, you end up with guys like Trump being the standard bearer for the Republican party. This is why I always found it weird when establishment types claimed Trump was some kind of aberration, he's not, he's everything the Republican base is.
It started during the Reagan admin when conservative operatives spread around the idea that being invested and informed in politics was "uncool" and "weird". This whole anti-intellectual shtick started when a retarded dementia-addled former actor became President.
I don't think it started with Reagan, but he made it the party standard for sure.
The US has always had a deep anti-intellectual streak. But guys like Washington were big on science and education, Reagan not so much.
For example, Washington:
There is nothing which can better deserve our patronage than the promotion of science and literature. Knowledge is in every country the surest basis of public happiness.
I'd say the whole Laffer curve thing absolutely contributed to the foundations of the intellectual rot we see within the GOP, I just think the anti-intellectualism has been present in the united states since the very start.
For these and other empirical reasons, economists across the political spectrum are dismissive of the Laffer Curve. Harvard economist Greg Mankiw, an outspoken conservative who led George W. Bush’s Council of Economic Advisors, has called supply-siders “Charlatans and Cranks” and compared them to a “snake-oil salesman.” Paul Krugman, the liberal New York Times columnist and Nobel Prize–winning economist, often argues with Mankiw on economic policy, but also thinks “the supply-siders are cranks” who adhere to a doctrine “without a shred of logic or evidence in its favor.” This widespread criticism is almost as old as the Laffer Curve itself. As The Washington Post reported in 1989, at the dawn of George H. W. Bush’s presidency:
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Laffer’s mathematical ‘curve’ gained folklore status—if limited acceptance by other analysts..... Critics seize on the $155 billion federal budget deficit as proof that the tax cuts he advocated were excessive. They also dismiss the supply-side claim that a tax cut could pay for itself by stimulating new business activity, a claim Laffer says that others exaggerated. “History has contradicted, not confirmed, the Laffer hypothesis,’’ said Robert Eisner, an economics professor at Northwestern University and past president of the American Economic Association. “Certainly, I think it made no contribution to professional economics.’’ Lawrence Chimerine, chairman of the WEFA Group, an economic consulting firm in Bala-Cynwyd, Pa., said the tax cuts aggravated America’s financial ills, including the trade deficit. He described the benefits promised by Laffer and others as “way, way overblown.’’
At the risk of getting into an economics debate on /r/drama, I think its pretty clear there are at least three separate claims being conflated together as "The Laffer Curve":
a) Tax cuts will pay for themselves (at least in the short-term). As you say, theres pretty clear consensus that this isn't the case.
b) The tax won't literally pay for themselves, i.e. will result in reduced tax revenue, but they'll stimulate the economy such that their overall effect will be considered better-er by some metric.
c) There exists some point past which marginal increases in tax rate will shortly thereafter result in marginal decreases in actual tax revenue. This is a much less controversial claim, obviously.
I think he meant some combination of (b) and (c) when he says "not in the way Regan said it". Obviously (a) is the spicy one and (b)/(c) are pretty lame, but there's no other way to interpret that.
Or I guess he could just be baiting you into /r/badeconomics to fuck with you. 🤔
Oversimplification, exaggeration and anecdotal evidence. Making it seem like everyone that is a conservative is exactly like you described. /seriouspostover
Nothing I just said is overly simple, anecdotal, and I went out of my way to say it was the Republican base, not the establishment types.
There is no "conservative" movement in the US anymore. They're right-wing reactionaries with little to no set in stone ideological points. They accept whatever they think makes the "elites" mad.
Your theory sounds a little bit nutty even though there's some truth to it. And yes, the conservative movement in the US has been pretty much dead since Nixon. On the other hand you have leftoids that have been pushing further and further left and are starting to revolt against the establishment Democrats. The future will be great for drama.
Schumpeter was 100% right in his predictions. Capitalism will unfortunately fall and be replaced by Socialism and the descent into authoritarian government will be led by the "intellectuals" as usual. It's a clown world after all. Honk
It's something that no individual let alone today's "intellectuals" could fix even if they wanted to. We fucked baby, just have as much fun as you can, travel a lot, make good friends etc. and enjoy the drama from the sidelines.
Well then I must be livin' the life. Srspost: While I agree that with technology and the population boom, governments as a whole are becoming more authoritarian. And I do agree capitalism on a long enough time line could produce a singlular all encompassing corporation, so most developed nations are leaning more towards a soc dem. I guess fearing "intellectuals" just doesn't seem like the conclusion I'd make, if I'm following your logic.
It's not fearing "intellectuals" but despising them for not realizing that the solutions they present for Capitalism will inevitably result in something similar or even worse to what Capitalism has achieved.
I ain't claiming to be an intellectual here or that I have all the answers but I genuinely believe we as a society are proper fucked. Soon enough China's quasi-socialist authoritarian government will be seen all around the world. It's over capitalistcels.
Sure, but empires have risen and fallen all through history. I don't think our situation is somehow unique because of some ((("despised intellectuals"))) are trying to Band-aid a complex problem. There have always been people able to seize power, outwit their opponents, always will be. I'm just saying I despise intellectuals sounds like good ol' anti-intellectualism, I mean, you could read up on the field you're interested in or curious about. With science, if you make yourself scientifically literate, you can at least understand the basis for the arguments being presented without being an expert on the topic. TL;DR: what's with the nerd-hate?
I'm not anti-intellectual, I just believe that today's intelligentsia is over saturated with pseudo-intellectuals. They're all over education, economics and politics and if you work in one of those fields you've probably seen the kind of people I'm about to describe. The types of people that go to college with the idea that getting a non-STEM education should still guarantee them 6 figure salaries. That their English majors should get them jobs at the finest schools or companies only to come to the sad realization that they are unemployable and with a useless degree. The types of idiots that unironically shill for Communism/Socialism, look down on trade practitioners and the lower classes blaming them for the policies and ideologies that their very own social class are responsible for. The types of idiots that believe that just because they went to college and got a shit tier degree they automatically are qualified as intellectuals and educated individuals. Reddit is filled with these types of people.
Joseph Schumpeter was 100% dead on on his predictions 80 years ago, the man was an actual prophet. The pseudo-intellectuals will inevitably bring down Capitalism and with it all hopes of freedom and prosperity for society as it makes its plunge into an authoritarian system akin to China's. Neo-Liberals are already devolving into unironical socialist/marxist types. Just these past 20 years it's become very noticeable how unabashed and prominent these types of people have become.
I'm all for actual intellectualism and a vibrant, diverse academia. But that's just not the case these days.
All this to say that it's over capitalistcels and will soon also be over for socialistcels. /seriouspostover
A bit late, but I see your point. Sadly I'm a STEMcel but I see where you're coming from with the whole English majors who think they're entitled to a standard great job ™. But I also think the pseudo intellectuals are hoisted up by other half-mongoloids, same with retards who voted in Trump. The problem isn't necessarily the people we've mentioned (although they are not blameless) but the hordes of mouth breathers who they represent. Just like an honest tradesman can vote for a jackass con artist, the chapofags will support some barely literate socialist. I think we're pretty much on the same page, I just want to include all the clowns, from prof lobster to contra tranny, and especially the people they represent, if we're going to point fingers. Side note : I have not read up enough on the source you named twice to really comment, but I do largely agree with the 'predictions', I just think it's the people behind the pseudo intellectuals (no, not the jews) that are really to blame.
You literally unironically use Vox as a source and think an sql injection is Russia collusion. Stop watching Rachel Maddow and maybe you wouldn’t serious post so much
PS you’re a good dood, but you have autism and think that you are always right and can never admit when you are wrong. Take a chill pill, maybe make a non serious post. Also pojo didn’t post nudes to 2bf I believed a lie from someone else.
I mean, I can see how that works. If I hear Alex Jones talk about frogs turning gay, intergalactic reptilians controlling us all, 5G waves frying your brain and other crazy shit, I actually do feel more sane.
It's like how I go to AA to remember that my antics aren't that bad.
That and the stupid judge "blah blah blah incorrigible blah blah blah menace to society blah blah blah forth time I've seen you in this court this year." What a nerd.
Shit like this is why I believe Alex Jones doesn't genuinely believe the shit he says and is just conning people for their money. He may be viewed as a complete clown but at least he is a millionaire clown.
I'd believe it if he was even remotely able to contain his insanity during his divorce. He was palpably miserable over the prospect of his family breaking up yet also kept doing retarded shit while the court case was ongoing.
I think there is genuine sincerity in a lot of his beliefs, I mean he's been doing this shit for decades. Hell, look at him breaking down in tears and saying Paul Joseph Watson was the Zoomers misiah and you can see he's seriously deluded.
That said, I do think he over does it intentional for views and, by extension, getting people to buy his sugar pills.
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1 SnapshillBot 2019-04-23
I'm not even sure what your point is. Yeah I'd rather sleep with a dakimakura of my waifu Renge-chan than with some random 3D slut but that doesn't mean I'm desperate, it's the opposite, it implies that I have standards.
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1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-04-23
How far gone do you have to be to believe this?
1 LucidHuckleberry 2019-04-23
You know what the worst part is? My wife is an engineer for a large aerospace company. She has several coworkers who are rabid InfoWars followers. They are also engineers, mostly with Master degrees. And they go, “yep, that sounds right,” when listening to IW.
It’s some fantastic coolaid.
1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-04-23
Yikes.
Also, I know a guy from high-school who listens to InfoWars. Really smart dude, he's in law school now, but I'll never understand why he listens to the gay-frogs guy.
1 LucidHuckleberry 2019-04-23
Yes 😥 I succumbed to the temptation of gussy.
Law school attracts some crazies. We had a girl who was really into the libertarian thing. She somehow took a moot court assignment on slip and falls and morphed it into legalizing children consenting. It made the moot court questions interesting fornonce.
1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-04-23
Based foid
1 Intensely_Accurate 2019-04-23
Classic libertarian.
1 Ennui2778 2019-04-23
I was judging a high school moot court championship once about constitutional law. The question was supposed to be about speech codes, and how one shit kid wasn't actually bullying another one. But one kid conceded that, while the student was bullying the other student, he had a right to be a bully protected by the Forst Amendment.
Based zoomed.
1 BriefSquirt 2019-04-23
law school is pretty hard right though, at least where im from
1 drkitteh 2019-04-23
Sounds like a libertarian to me
1 drkitteh 2019-04-23
Does he listen to Infowars for actual information, or laughs? The latter is understandable. Jones' rants are fucking great.
1 MGTOWWOM 2019-04-23
How do they feel about semitecumulus AKA chemtrails?
1 LucidHuckleberry 2019-04-23
Fuck if I know.
1 Whaddaulookinat 2019-04-23
IIRC most of the 9/11 hijackers were trained as engineers. Invading Afghanistan was misplaced, truly.
1 Detective_Fallacy 2019-04-23
It's about time we start thinking about how to deal with the engineer menace.
1 zergling_Lester 2019-04-23
Forced transitioning.
1 IHeartCommyMommy 2019-04-23
Excuse me, we don't call it the engineer menace, the proper term is 'wreckers', comrade.
1 istural 2019-04-23
Those engineers listen to him so they are able to feel smart and smug about everything in life, not just engineering. They are too used to being the smartest ones in the room and when they have a gap in knowledge they have to go completely overboard to take back that standing of superior intelligence. Classic low self esteem mentality,
1 Squirrelsquirrelnuts 2019-04-23
Engineering education is actually quite detached from the norms in the academia/scientific community. In terms of university education, science vs. engineering is like economics vs. business. Business school types and engineers have a lot more in common than they are willing to admit.
1 ManBearFridge 2019-04-23
The best ones are the engineers who think they are smarter than physicists and can reinvent science with magnets.
1 Squirrelsquirrelnuts 2019-04-23
Every year at the APS meeting there is a conference room (general theory or general physics depending on the year) for those cringe “physicists” who claim they’ve proved quantum mechanics to be false or some shit like that, just to stop them from whining about APS being elitist. It’s fun watching retired engineers having a go at physics.
1 snallygaster 2019-04-23
Yeah, a huge amount of training in the pure and some applied sciences, probably the most important of all if you're going into any kind of research, involves engaging with other people's ideas/research and finding flaws and/or using the ideas to generate new ones. imo every kid should be forced to learn these skills but even most college students don't get the support they need to develop them. Because engineering is difficult and engineers are perceived to be smart, engineering students tend to walk away from school with a exaggerated sense of what they're capable of intellectually, which makes them susceptible to adopting ridiculous beliefs that call for simple explanations and solutions to complex problems and susceptible to being manipulated by people and ideas that stroke their ego.
1 Vyrnie 2019-04-23
9/10 engineers walked out the first real math course understanding on a deep level we're garbage at math, and the first real physics course understanding on a deep level we're also garbage at physics. We actually walk away exaggerated senses of what we're capable of intellectually 'cause we get paid more than the autists who actually get that shit.
Why do people insist on psychoanalyzing us like we're some alien species, honestly. That quote is absolutely true, but only in the sense it also literally applies to 90% of all humans. Its not like the humanities people stop themselves from coming up shiny new theories on why actually people who vote for lower taxes are subhuman or something.
1 snallygaster 2019-04-23
I've grown up around engineers, worked with engineers, taught engineers etc and can tell you with great certainty that when engineers fuck up their thinking it tends to be in a very specific way.
They can and do but the way there aren't many types of people who seem to have such a distinct and consistent method of botching their thought. The only ones I can think of off the top of my head are ___ studies and soft sociology people, and maybe non-continental philosophy majors because they tend to have specific issues with practical thinking. And maybe psych BAs who aren't pursuing further education. But the interaction between the average engineer's training, problem-solving methods, hubris, and disdain for anything that isn't considered 'hard' enough makes things go wrong in a very unique way.
You should be happy; the rest of us think poorly in generic ways but you are special :-)
1 Vyrnie 2019-04-23
Oh I absolutely don't doubt that when nutty and possibly semi-senile engineers do their thing it tends to follow a certain unique pattern. Was mostly trying to #notallengineers tbh.
Eww, the foid is hitting on me
1 snallygaster 2019-04-23
oh of course. the good news is that the ones that can escape this are good management material.
wow rude!
1 heretobefriends 2019-04-23
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Parsons_%28rocket_engineer%29
1 blindinglystupid 2019-04-23
I love everything about this guy.
1 The_Pandemonium 2019-04-23
If you don't think interdimensional wizards are controlling our government, you're the one who is far gone bud.
1 LucidHuckleberry 2019-04-23
Wait I thought it was gay lizard frogs.
1 FoidBlaster 2019-04-23
Nope, it's vampire potbelly goblins who are also pedophiles and satanists. Wake up sheeple!
1 The_Pandemonium 2019-04-23
You're getting confused bud. The water turns the frogs gay. Reptilian shapeshifters rule over this dimension, after the emergence day (when the reptilian shapeshifters left their huge cities underneath the earth's crust). But who do you think is calling the shots outside of this bubble of a universe? Interdimensional space wizards, that's who. They use their crystal balls to communicate with the reptilians, who then pull the strings, mostly via the U S government. This is mostly basic information to the denizens of InfoWars™, a bit too hard to grasp by the standard libtard like yourself. Have you not seen the videos? They're is clear evidence of Hillarys reptilian cloaking device failing ON TV. You libtards try to write this off as "compression artifacts" due to "low bit rate" or whatever techno mumbo jumbo you libs use. But i? I know the truth. Wake up bud, because soon enough youll be realizing its too late.
1 pepperouchau 2019-04-23
>not knowing the lizards are just a cover for the wizards
What's it like having a brain this smooth?
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1 FoidBlaster 2019-04-23
To the absolute edge of the retardation spectrum. I know people like these exist but it still baffles me at how clueless and stupid they are.
Only good thing Alex Jones is good for is Deus Ex parody videos and his hilariously retarded rants. They at least can give you a good laugh.
1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-04-23
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1 IDFSHILL 2019-04-23
American rightoid gone, is how far gone. Like I really don't think normies fully understand how insane the right is in the united states.
I'm not talking about the establishment types either, the Romneys, for example. I'm talking about the base.
So what happened is years and years ago the GOP realized they had an intellectual rot problem. They weren't doing well in academia, they were losing cultural battles over and over again. So they decided to heavily invest in creating a "siege narrative."
The narrative goes that, conservatives aren't wrong, but everything mainstream is rigged against them. Science is rigged against them, math is rigged against them, the UN is rigged against them, education is rigged against them, the media is rigged against them, law enforcement is rigged against them and etc etc.
So what this ended up doing is cause a large number of American conservatives to turn to sources they didn't view as "rigged against them." The only problem is, the sources they consider "fair" tend to be completely unhinged shit like Alex Jones or various internet blogs that pedal right-wing conspiracies.
The end result is clear, you end up with guys like Trump being the standard bearer for the Republican party. This is why I always found it weird when establishment types claimed Trump was some kind of aberration, he's not, he's everything the Republican base is.
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1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-04-23
It started during the Reagan admin when conservative operatives spread around the idea that being invested and informed in politics was "uncool" and "weird". This whole anti-intellectual shtick started when a retarded dementia-addled former actor became President.
1 IDFSHILL 2019-04-23
I don't think it started with Reagan, but he made it the party standard for sure.
The US has always had a deep anti-intellectual streak. But guys like Washington were big on science and education, Reagan not so much.
For example, Washington:
Then you have Reagan:
1 MikeStoklasaAlcohol 2019-04-23
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1 xlhat 2019-04-23
You don't think voodoo economics started the whole movement ?
1 IDFSHILL 2019-04-23
I'd say the whole Laffer curve thing absolutely contributed to the foundations of the intellectual rot we see within the GOP, I just think the anti-intellectualism has been present in the united states since the very start.
1 spergling_ 2019-04-23
Laffer curve is accepted by mainstream economist.
Not in way like Regan said it of course. If you don't believe me ask r/badeconomics.
1 IDFSHILL 2019-04-23
Weird, considering even right-wing economists laugh at it:
https://newrepublic.com/article/145331/art-laffer-intellectual-rot-republican-party
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1 Vyrnie 2019-04-23
At the risk of getting into an economics debate on /r/drama, I think its pretty clear there are at least three separate claims being conflated together as "The Laffer Curve":
a) Tax cuts will pay for themselves (at least in the short-term). As you say, theres pretty clear consensus that this isn't the case.
b) The tax won't literally pay for themselves, i.e. will result in reduced tax revenue, but they'll stimulate the economy such that their overall effect will be considered better-er by some metric.
c) There exists some point past which marginal increases in tax rate will shortly thereafter result in marginal decreases in actual tax revenue. This is a much less controversial claim, obviously.
I think he meant some combination of (b) and (c) when he says "not in the way Regan said it". Obviously (a) is the spicy one and (b)/(c) are pretty lame, but there's no other way to interpret that.
Or I guess he could just be baiting you into /r/badeconomics to fuck with you. 🤔
1 dazano19 2019-04-23
You know what's worse than being a conservacuck? Being a seriousposter.
1 NapoleonBonerpart5 2019-04-23
I hate Pizza Shill so much.
1 FoidBlaster 2019-04-23
Not to seriouspost here but that's a strawman if I ever seen one sweaty. Rightoids are still retarded though.
1 IDFSHILL 2019-04-23
How is that a strawman?
1 FoidBlaster 2019-04-23
Oversimplification, exaggeration and anecdotal evidence. Making it seem like everyone that is a conservative is exactly like you described. /seriouspostover
Sorry pizza but you wrong son
1 IDFSHILL 2019-04-23
Nothing I just said is overly simple, anecdotal, and I went out of my way to say it was the Republican base, not the establishment types.
There is no "conservative" movement in the US anymore. They're right-wing reactionaries with little to no set in stone ideological points. They accept whatever they think makes the "elites" mad.
1 FoidBlaster 2019-04-23
Your theory sounds a little bit nutty even though there's some truth to it. And yes, the conservative movement in the US has been pretty much dead since Nixon. On the other hand you have leftoids that have been pushing further and further left and are starting to revolt against the establishment Democrats. The future will be great for drama.
Schumpeter was 100% right in his predictions. Capitalism will unfortunately fall and be replaced by Socialism and the descent into authoritarian government will be led by the "intellectuals" as usual. It's a clown world after all. Honk
1 HumongousGentleman 2019-04-23
Just become an intellectual and rule some nation then, what's the problem again?
1 FoidBlaster 2019-04-23
It's something that no individual let alone today's "intellectuals" could fix even if they wanted to. We fucked baby, just have as much fun as you can, travel a lot, make good friends etc. and enjoy the drama from the sidelines.
1 HumongousGentleman 2019-04-23
Well then I must be livin' the life. Srspost: While I agree that with technology and the population boom, governments as a whole are becoming more authoritarian. And I do agree capitalism on a long enough time line could produce a singlular all encompassing corporation, so most developed nations are leaning more towards a soc dem. I guess fearing "intellectuals" just doesn't seem like the conclusion I'd make, if I'm following your logic.
1 FoidBlaster 2019-04-23
It's not fearing "intellectuals" but despising them for not realizing that the solutions they present for Capitalism will inevitably result in something similar or even worse to what Capitalism has achieved.
I ain't claiming to be an intellectual here or that I have all the answers but I genuinely believe we as a society are proper fucked. Soon enough China's quasi-socialist authoritarian government will be seen all around the world. It's over capitalistcels.
1 HumongousGentleman 2019-04-23
Sure, but empires have risen and fallen all through history. I don't think our situation is somehow unique because of some ((("despised intellectuals"))) are trying to Band-aid a complex problem. There have always been people able to seize power, outwit their opponents, always will be. I'm just saying I despise intellectuals sounds like good ol' anti-intellectualism, I mean, you could read up on the field you're interested in or curious about. With science, if you make yourself scientifically literate, you can at least understand the basis for the arguments being presented without being an expert on the topic. TL;DR: what's with the nerd-hate?
1 FoidBlaster 2019-04-23
I'm not anti-intellectual, I just believe that today's intelligentsia is over saturated with pseudo-intellectuals. They're all over education, economics and politics and if you work in one of those fields you've probably seen the kind of people I'm about to describe. The types of people that go to college with the idea that getting a non-STEM education should still guarantee them 6 figure salaries. That their English majors should get them jobs at the finest schools or companies only to come to the sad realization that they are unemployable and with a useless degree. The types of idiots that unironically shill for Communism/Socialism, look down on trade practitioners and the lower classes blaming them for the policies and ideologies that their very own social class are responsible for. The types of idiots that believe that just because they went to college and got a shit tier degree they automatically are qualified as intellectuals and educated individuals. Reddit is filled with these types of people.
Joseph Schumpeter was 100% dead on on his predictions 80 years ago, the man was an actual prophet. The pseudo-intellectuals will inevitably bring down Capitalism and with it all hopes of freedom and prosperity for society as it makes its plunge into an authoritarian system akin to China's. Neo-Liberals are already devolving into unironical socialist/marxist types. Just these past 20 years it's become very noticeable how unabashed and prominent these types of people have become.
I'm all for actual intellectualism and a vibrant, diverse academia. But that's just not the case these days.
All this to say that it's over capitalistcels and will soon also be over for socialistcels. /seriouspostover
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1 HumongousGentleman 2019-04-23
A bit late, but I see your point. Sadly I'm a STEMcel but I see where you're coming from with the whole English majors who think they're entitled to a standard great job ™. But I also think the pseudo intellectuals are hoisted up by other half-mongoloids, same with retards who voted in Trump. The problem isn't necessarily the people we've mentioned (although they are not blameless) but the hordes of mouth breathers who they represent. Just like an honest tradesman can vote for a jackass con artist, the chapofags will support some barely literate socialist. I think we're pretty much on the same page, I just want to include all the clowns, from prof lobster to contra tranny, and especially the people they represent, if we're going to point fingers. Side note : I have not read up enough on the source you named twice to really comment, but I do largely agree with the 'predictions', I just think it's the people behind the pseudo intellectuals (no, not the jews) that are really to blame.
1 FoidBlaster 2019-04-23
You're completely right, glad we're very on tune.
1 zergling_Lester 2019-04-23
*peddle
1 IDFSHILL 2019-04-23
You're actually right. I'm used to calling people "backpedaling retards" in wow so I kind of associated the word "pedaling" for pushing.
1 zergling_Lester 2019-04-23
No worries, Bill Gates made a similar mistake once, maybe you're a kind of genius similar to him :3
1 Kat_B0T 2019-04-23
“I’m totally not a retard I’m just used to being around retards and it makes it seem like I’m one” nice back peddle
Quit arguing things you don’t understand and Get back to your video games PS
1 IDFSHILL 2019-04-23
Dropper, is this a reaction because I called you out on fake news again?
1 Kat_B0T 2019-04-23
You literally unironically use Vox as a source and think an sql injection is Russia collusion. Stop watching Rachel Maddow and maybe you wouldn’t serious post so much
1 IDFSHILL 2019-04-23
Are you just making random shit up now?
1 Kat_B0T 2019-04-23
You just made this argument in discord ffs
1 IDFSHILL 2019-04-23
When on earth did I say Russia hacking the voter database was "Russian collusion."
1 Kat_B0T 2019-04-23
PS you’re a good dood, but you have autism and think that you are always right and can never admit when you are wrong. Take a chill pill, maybe make a non serious post. Also pojo didn’t post nudes to 2bf I believed a lie from someone else.
1 HumongousGentleman 2019-04-23
I love my pizza 🍕 hot, cold, reheated, idgf but boy is it tasty
1 loveabigdick 2019-04-23
No wonder they're so retarded.
1 loveabigdick 2019-04-23
Alex "tranny porn pop up" jones
1 boyoyoyoyong 2019-04-23
We don't kink shame here
1 Whaddaulookinat 2019-04-23
We do shame people shamed by their kink, though
1 Woolgun 2019-04-23
I mean, I can see how that works. If I hear Alex Jones talk about frogs turning gay, intergalactic reptilians controlling us all, 5G waves frying your brain and other crazy shit, I actually do feel more sane.
1 Whaddaulookinat 2019-04-23
It's like how I go to AA to remember that my antics aren't that bad.
That and the stupid judge "blah blah blah incorrigible blah blah blah menace to society blah blah blah forth time I've seen you in this court this year." What a nerd.
1 ikitomi 2019-04-23
I mean the best part about the frogs was that he was right that it was happening, but it was pollution rather than the government.
1 MGTOWWOM 2019-04-23
That would be two capsules daily (by mouth) of Brain Force Plus.
1 LucidHuckleberry 2019-04-23
Directions unclear, pills stuck in penis.
1 TaysSecondGussy 2019-04-23
That’s how you know it’s working. Your virility is peaking.
1 MGTOWWOM 2019-04-23
Temporary pearling.)
1 LucidHuckleberry 2019-04-23
I regret clicking that link.
1 MGTOWWOM 2019-04-23
The violent right.
1 ethicsssss 2019-04-23
Shit like this is why I believe Alex Jones doesn't genuinely believe the shit he says and is just conning people for their money. He may be viewed as a complete clown but at least he is a millionaire clown.
1 THOT-AUDITOR 2019-04-23
I'd believe it if he was even remotely able to contain his insanity during his divorce. He was palpably miserable over the prospect of his family breaking up yet also kept doing retarded shit while the court case was ongoing.
1 IHeartCommyMommy 2019-04-23
I think there is genuine sincerity in a lot of his beliefs, I mean he's been doing this shit for decades. Hell, look at him breaking down in tears and saying Paul Joseph Watson was the Zoomers misiah and you can see he's seriously deluded.
That said, I do think he over does it intentional for views and, by extension, getting people to buy his sugar pills.
1 Seattle_Bussy_Lmao 2019-04-23
Is that a challenge!?
1 YourWaifuisShit666 2019-04-23
how are these f-slurs not ashamed to draw breath?
1 chimpan_z 2019-04-23
implying self-awareness 😴
1 detroitvelvetslim 2019-04-23
Alex Jones is the WWE of news
1 Fataleo 2019-04-23
Imagine seeking it on Reddit.
1 Kazundo_Goda 2019-04-23
How many litres of Alex Jones's cum have they consumed to be that high.
1 aonome 2019-04-23
How are these people real?