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A rare moment of self realization from CTH, or is it one of those trolls? That sub is so heavily dripped in irony that it makes Drama look coherent

it's suuper high level irony you wouldn't understand it unless you had a doctorate in social psychology and a 250+ IQ

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Temporarily embarrassed commisars you chud !

this guy should have been finding a job by the first degree

lol companies are bending over backwards for compsci grads. Unless he's only applied to Google or microsoft he's done a terrible job searching there's another side to this story.

How do you not have job with a comp sci degree? And he has 2 of them...

I'm a hardcore leftist STEM major. I hold two comp. sci. degrees and can't stand Capitalism. Come to think of it, this is probably precisely why I'm still unemployed. Hmmm...

Okay, which one of you posted this?

What's worse than STEM lords?

STEM lords whose college education is completely devoid of political and sociological critique.

Imagine getting a degree that actually gets you a job OMEGALUL

It isn't up for the government to decide "what gets you a job."

People on this sub know I am rabidly against modern social science being used in such a political way, but at the same time there's no defending what this guy is trying to do. It's textbook anti-intellectualism and taken right out of the fascist playbook.

The reason politicians shouldn't be left in charge of this kind of stuff is because they, themselves, often have not even a basic comprehension of these subjects. Sagan made this argument in the 1990s.

Members of Congress and other political leaders have from time to time found it irresistible to poke fun at seemingly obscure scientific research proposals that the government is asked to fund. Even as bright a senator as William Proxmire, a Harvard graduate, was given to making episodic 'Golden Fleece' awards, many commemorating ostensibly useless scientific projects including SETI. I imagine the same spirit in previous governments - a Mr Fleming wishes to study bugs in smelly cheese; a Polish woman wishes to sift through tons of Central African ore to find minute quantities of a substance she says will glow in the dark; a Mr Kepler wants to hear the songs the planets sing.

These discoveries and a multitude of others that grace and characterize our time, to some of which our very lives are beholden, were made ultimately by scientists given the opportunity to explore what in their opinion, under the scrutiny of their peers, were basic questions in Nature. Industrial applications, in which Japan in the last two decades has done so well, are excellent. But applications of what? Fundamental research, research into the heart of Nature, is the means by which we acquire the new knowledge that gets applied.

This doesn't only apply to the hard sciences. It applies across the board. If we left it up to politicians to decide which fields were "valuable" we'd have nothing today.

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a Mr Fleming wishes to study bugs in smelly cheese; a Polish woman wishes to sift through tons of Central African ore to find minute quantities of a substance she says will glow in the dark; a Mr Kepler wants to hear the songs the planets sing.

I like how he's trying to make a point of downplaying research proposals as frivolous and uninteresting before they lead to great discovery, but Carl is such a space-cel he can't help but to pretentiously romanticize Keppler's.

there's absolutely no possibility of philosophy and sociology ever being as useful as medicine, don't kid yourself

Reading comp is a real issue on this sub.

as if I actually read your comment lmao

As if you read anything lmao

Don't say this. Being a smug basement dweller has its perks. And philosophy is the perfect major for this.

Ah yes Plato's famous basement metaphor.

Medicine grew out of philosophy. And there are relevant branches to its practice as well - for example, medical ethics.

All government funding for education should be based on what its market value. There is no point giving student loans to people who will go into careers where there isn't any demand.

It isn't up for the government to decide "what gets you a job."

While it's not the government's role, it's certainly intrinsic to the market, and governments in latin america have a incredibly strong degree of intervention and control over the market.

All government funding for education should be based on what its market value.

Incorrect. Government funding for education/science should be completely blind because time and time again governments have revealed they can not be trusted and they have no idea what they are talking about in relation to fields of study.

Just because they do something in Latin America, does not mean it's a good idea, does not mean it's logically defensible.

does not mean it's a good idea, does not mean it's logically defensible.

I'm not trying to defend that, I'm saying it's a bad idea, I guess you are used to being on the defensive here.

That's fucking retarded. How else are we going to trick people into working for social services?

Congratz on one of the most deluded comments ive ever read. Theoretical science projects with no immediate application are not at all comparable to fields like sociology where theres no actual knowledge being created. There are no social science theories that have any predictive power as to the directions societies will take, the whole field is just well read people jerking each other off, and unironically is probably better off unfunded so less people will waste their time on it. This goes for all social sciences and even more so for humanities. The fact the fields lean left ideologically has nothing to do with it, theyre just inherently worthless and the fact theyre labelled as science is laughable.

Open up any academic paper in a non stem field and other than the data or facts they use in their argument, their actual theories arent falsifiable. I could posit my own theory that contradicts theres and there is no way to prove who’s right. Thats why the fields are completely worthless except maybe as an intellectual exercise.

Any field where unfalsifiable theories are accepted shouldnt be getting government funding.

Theoretical science projects with no immediate application are not at all comparable to fields like sociology where theres no actual knowledge being created.

And stopped reading. I will give you a real response when you work on your reading comprehension and type up another comment that is relevant to mine.

But this is as far as I got before realizing you don't comprehend anything I typed.

Both of your quotes were talking about science but youre using them to defend sociology and philosophy, neither of which are sciences. The “you didnt really understand my post” defense is a classic though. Are you a petersoncel too?

I'm not defending any specific fields of study you illiterate ape. I'm saying government funding of academia, research, and any field of study should be completely blind.

Why? Because the government has shown time and time and time and time and time and time again that they can not be trusted to judge anything related to science or academia in any reasonable way.

It's a slippery slope. If you empower the government to slash funding to philosophy on the basis that field is saying things the government doesn't like, it's only a short leap to "let's also defund biology, they're saying things we don't like."

The fact this point went over your head instantly told me you're low intelligence and not worth debating because you didn't actually understand the point.

The government already enforced its idea of what disciplines deserve funding. You cant get funding to get a phd in interpretive dance and you shouldnt be able. Sociology is the same level of usefulness as dance and really doesn’t deserve funding.

Political and social critique that just so happens to demand I get a NEET check every week from the paychecks of those who studied a profitable skill.

I think the problem is, that college was mostly used by the rich and those taking holy orders.

That hasn't been the case for decades, yet people continue to believe that college should not prepare you for a working life.

Leftoids: Get rid of any dissent in liberal arts departments. Burn the books.

Rightoids: Left has taken over liberal arts. Stop funding.

Leftoids: Wow, this is Fascism 101. wHeN aRe YoU gOiNg To StArT BuRnInG bOoKs?

Why don't they just pay for their education ?

These fuckers wax lyrical about communes and mutualism etc yet can't collect enough to dough, to teach their "critiques".

Personally I'd agree with the idea that a right-wing populist strongman attacking universities via funding is a big problem for Brazil. What I can't fathom is looking at news like that and saying

Let me guess, STEM lords are drooling over this?

Who gives a shit whether stemlords are drooling or not? Is your worldview so constrained that every news story is reduced to whether or not you score points against another internet tribe? It's so ridiculously puerile, and I say that as an /r/Drama subscriber.

I refuse to believe the majority of Chapos have finished an actual degree.

It's the ramblings of first year students who think pysch 101 gives them the authority to classify everyone that disagrees with them as narcissistic.

STEM lords whose college education is completely devoid of political and sociological critique.

Those are the best STEMlords, though. Like what education is improved by a fat pig with pink hair who tells them that capitalism is evil?

I think it's unfair that there are so-called "liberal arts" institutions. Why aren't there any "patriotic memes" colleges?

seen tons of people outraged at this, none managed to point out a single useful thing about sociology lmao

I’ve always been a fan of Brazil ever since I saw that footage of a police helicopter indiscriminately spraying a low income neighborhood with machine gun fire because a weed dealer was driving around

I mean, you should keep in mind that our "weed dealers" are very different from yours.

College is mostly a waste of time and money, but liberal arts degrees are definitely a waste of time and money.

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STEM lords whose college education is completely devoid of political and sociological critique.

They should be careful what they wish for. I know academic leftists are contemptible because was exposed to postmodernist gibberish while in college. And it's not like they're even good at the things they think they are. The ethics class I took in the CS school was far more engaging than the navel gazing circle jerks I had to take in the liberal arts school. The average liberal arts student is a moron compared to the average STEM student, even in humanities type subjects.

Of course, it doesn't matter anymore, identity politics is inescapable because of social media. They're not fooling anyone now, so their tactic is to push the extremes, expand the Overton window, debase society to a point where people can only choose between neo-Nazis and literal communists. It's why people calling themselves centrist pisses them off so much.

underwater basket weaving > vocational training

I've done it

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much worth, wow

Chapocels seething other their worthless anthropology degrees lmao.

Philosophy? That's not even gender studies nonsense lmao - and trying to destroy it has a very dystopian vibe.

Ending funding in public universities will gut the heart of the academic discipline in the country, and if you think nothing is lost by that, well 🤷‍♂️

Anyhow, how useful a degree is depends on what you expect people to get out of having a degree. The world is very short on people who have spent a few years practicing how to think. Most philosophy majors end on doing something else for a career, but that doesn't mean their degrees are useless. And in terms of pure rankings of employability and pay, philosophy is the best-earning humanities degree.

It's also a good undergrad degree for many professional grad programs - philosophy students tend to perform better on exams for law, medicine, and other programs.

Do people really want to spend part of their $2K-$50K/year education learning something they could easily do in their free time?

sad but true

philosophy & sociology

facts & education

goodness gracious