Scientists say that drinking alcohol during pregnancy is unsafe. /r/Science white-knights melt the fuck down.

414  2019-04-27 by Coonass_alt

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I know redditors have no understanding of the concept of self-control but unless you are an alcoholic, it is pretty fucking easy to go 9 months without drinking

r/thanksimcured you T_D incel.

Imagine thinking women shouldn’t drink while pregnant makes you trumptard.

Free speech doesn't mean free from consequences you fascist.

I bet you hate brown people and love whistling.

You got me.

Chud.

You're a fucking retard. How are you so stupid that you couldn't detect sarcasm there? /s /s /s /s /s /s /s /s /s /s /s /s /s /s /s

its honestly easier to detect sarcasm on desktop than mobile, also i was just in the /r/science thread and an /r/games thread where redditors were saying shit like that unironically, you will have to forgive me.

the abyss is staring back into you

I just assume everyone with flair here is sarcastic.

Hopefully it's staring through his bussy.

I forgive you.

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Proof that browsing r/science and r/games makes you retarded.

Based

I feel like your a darqwolf alt.

what makes you think im a pedophile? also my last 2 accounts were well known. Coonass is my own /r/drama shitposting brand.

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Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Alcoholism Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Bottle Like Nigga Close Your Lips Haha

Pls do this to alcoholics and bezo addicts, no possible downsides

To this day the only good thing to have come from Twitter

This but unironically. Bruh just fucking uhhh… don't vape, retard. Lmao

Easy answer: if you’re an alcoholic, close your fucking legs and don’t get pregnant.

LET ME MAKE RETARDED BABIES BIGOT MY BODY MY CHOICE

The original post is beyond perfect. Cyber bullying is so fucking retarded as a concept.

Shut the fuck up you r/drama pedophile

Yikes !

Reddit is weird about alcohol in general. Redditors still think having two beers and driving is somehow worse than like talking to someone in the passenger seat, so I'm actually surprised they're acting more normal about a mom having a glass of wine than dramanauts.

The average millennial is an alcoholic though, it's just more acceptable now that beer is a hobby.

It’s more than 9 months: don’t forget the breastfeeding time. So, more than one year.

pump and dump tho

Honestly you can have a drink while breastfeeding. What the baby gets is literally what you blood alcohol content is. .08 is legal limit for driving, and for most people is fucking trashed. The baby is drinking milk that is .08% alcohol.

"alcohol free" odouls is 0.4% alcohol. So an alcohol free beer would still have 5 times the alcohol content of the booby milk. For the baby to have what would be equivalent of a 4% beer, it would have to drink 50 bottles of breastmilk.

Moms can still drink while breast feeding. They should probably limit it and shouldnt be getting shitface, but the pump and dump and even the waiting, doesn't seem necessary.

Imagine alcoholic milk

You can easily get some milk and add alcohol to and try it.

White Russians are great.

To serious post, you have to get pretty shit faced for any significant amount of alcohol to get in your breastmilk, it’s below the blood alcohol level irc. The bigger danger is probably dropping the baby.

Most controversial comment:

I will never understand women who drink while they’re pregnant, even “just a sip.” There’s years of scientific data that shows us that alcohol can have an incredibly adverse impact on your child’s health, both physical and mental health.

There isn’t a single study that says it could be beneficial to drink while pregnant.

The best they can do to excuse was “a little bit shouldn’t do any harm,” which is usually followed by strange comments like “your uncle Benny turned out fine and I drank a little here and there when I was pregnant with him.”

Reminds me of the type of women that deliberately put off taking a pregnant test when they suspect they might be pregnant, knowing they would keep the baby if they were, just so they can continue drinking and smoking until “they actually find out.”

But it tastes so goood~~~

theres that fag talk we talked about

even “just a sip.”

What is the point of this anyway? If you drink so few that it does not have any effects, you might just not drink at all. If you notice the effects already, it was too much already.

The only situation I can imagine is literally a symbolic small sip to toast something. This actually is not even noticeable for the human body, but it would also be socially acceptable to not drink because no sane person tells a pregnant woman that she has to join a toast with alcohol instead of orange juice.

"Just a sip" is actually fine if taken literally, like I'm pretty sure accidentally swallowing your mouthwash has a higher alcohol content than a mouthful of 4% beer.

But it's never 'just a sip' is it?

So women shouldn't do anything in their pregnancy unless it's beneficial to the developing fetus?

Alcohol makes your baby retarded. Don't fucking drink when you're pregnant, how hard can that be?

My body, my choice!

Maybe we shouldn't make it your body anymore 🤨

Insh'allah

Don't blame him, blame his mother.

LET ME FUCK UP MY BABY BIGOT

AND PAY FOR MY RETARD CHILD'S HEALTHCARE TOO

Wait wait, not that.

AND DON'T JUDGE ME IF I ABORT IT BIGOT

They want retarded babies so they can make them browse r/politics in the future.

Oh so that’s how we get shit on trump photos

you dont own me

Is it really surprising that retards are white knighting for pregnant foids to be able to turn their kids retarded? How else are these perma-virgins going to pass on their particular brand of stupid to future generations?

And yet she persisted.

It really should be illegal to do drugs while pregnant. You're permanently harming an innocent person for literally their entire life or straight up killing them

Let's not go too far.

For me, it's on the same level as child abuse tbh

Its not a child you silly goose, if abortion's legal then getting shitfaced while pregnant should be too

If it's legal and she's going to abort it, then fine. If she's going to have the child, she's fucking it up for life

One removes the possible baby, one creates a FAS kid that goes on to make shitty arguments like yours.

I bet your mom feels the exact same way as you.

So it should be personal choice and free from government interference?

If you abuse your kids, the kid's taken away. What do you mean?

I mean, it's literally damning a child with potential mental/developmental problems that they never asked for. Super fucked up.

Ok so how would you even begin to legislate this?

Pregnant woman can't drink alcohol. They get caught with it, slap them with a fine. Leave the rest to the law makers.

Who doing the catching a doctor?

Its not a bad idea imo. Just hard to enforce.

I think the better idea would be to educate the youth on the dangers of drinking alcohol while pregnant. We've started to educate the youth here in Australia, on the dangers of smoking. We've also started to raise taxes on the cigarette industry.

Its been very successful, smoking rates have been the lowest they've ever been.

Its like Cory Feldman said "what's up with the youth?"

https://youtu.be/iO_8n5y5edk

Really cool to see how much Terry Crews has grown.

That's actually Robin Quivers, co-host of the Howard Stern show

Oh, I figured it was pre-nofap T-Crews.

Sorry, I'm a zoomer and thus the world pre 2000 doesn't exist to me. Please insert some other reference.

Yeah but your Australian and thus 20 years behind the rest of the modern world.

Based and boomerang pilled.

I think the better idea would be to educate the youth on the dangers of drinking alcohol while pregnant.

What sort of retard doesn't know this? I swear the more I learn about the west proper the more retarded it seems.

You don't educate them so they know about it.

You educate them so that when you start raising taxes on the substance, they don't start complaining "but what haaaas X ever done?".

It's up to the husband to step up and protect his heir.

What kind of misogynistic crap is that? Cut off her discretionary income?

Life together is a partnership, not a ruler and ruled class.

Yes, each individual is a partner and each has the capacity and the right to withhold their gifts when the other is in flagrant violation of the aims of the family unit.

I also don't think an unemployed man should enjoy sexual relations with his wife until he can get back on his feet and start pulling his weight. Each partner should hold the other to a standard.

slap them with a fine

too lenient

Slap them in the face

20 lashes MINIMUM

make it so that woman physically confined into a room for the duration of their pregnancy.

actually let's go a bit further

The best part about that comment is that persons pregnant. She only recently posts on pregnancy subs.

Yikes, I mean wow. Are you seriously asking woman to be sober 9 months? Misogynist much?

(Above quote)

Yeah, basically. Don't get pregnant if you don't want to care for a child.

listen up you fucking FUCK

my mum drank shittonnes of wine when she was pregnant with me

and i turned out FINE you fucking FUCK

and i turned out FINE you fucking FUCK

matter of opinion tbh

"Fetal Alcohol Syndrome not real" says local FAS victims

Does gravity even exist?

One time I dropped a potato chip and it never hit the floor. My dog caught it and ate it. Ergo gravity doesn't exist.

It's just a theory you muppet. Look into it

Driving in your car also carries risk but no one says it’s best to avoid driving in a car when pregnant. The double standard is glaring and obvious.

Double standard against whom..? Like, are they trying to say people are purposefully trying to target pregnant women by using the health of their children ?

"Woah there, I know 2 glasses make your kid a r-slur, but since we've got no proof only 1 does too, I think it's best we err on the side of caution and risk f#cking up a few children here and there. I mean, realistically, what's the alternative ? Drinking orange juice instead of beer for 9 months ? Would clearly be both beyond any human being's strength of will and a violation of the Geneva convention."

This site comes up with the worst excuses and analogies

Pregnant men are never told to avoid drinking.

That person is also retarded. Many people can't live without driving, they need to to get around to remain functioning adults.

That isn't the case with drinking. Any sane person can stop drinking for 9 months.

Anyone with such little willpower, foresight, and risk-aversion instinct should get an abortion for the sake of everyone involved.

Implying American women have any of these.

Any sane person can stop drinking for 9 months.

Implying foids are sane.

Just to play devil's advocate kid, there is such a thing as a legit alcoholic that would physically die if they stop drinking as they will get a seizure. In such a case abortion should be mandatory, thankfully, getting pregnant and not miscarrying in such a physical state is not usually possible. FAS is usually from young drinkers who simply do not stop drinking when pregnant.

aint nobody reading that paragraph

sucks to suck, just don't be an alcoholic next time

listen retard there is no excuse I am explaining how alcohol works, severe alcoholics can't stop without death via seizure, that is all I was saying, drama used to have real junkies here, what has happened?

Imagine being such a retard you become an alcoholic

It doesn't matter how much you drink, you can taper off (with either decreasing amounts of alcohol or benzos) to a point where you're not in danger of seizures or DTs in a week at most.

yes no shit, I was explaining that to pizzashill, wow drama is fucking gay now, those CA rebels coming in and talking of the dangers of alcohol, such rebels.

Like, are they trying to say people are purposefully trying to target pregnant women by using the health of their children ?

First time?

Are these people retarded? Driving a car is inherntly dangerous, but isn't a guaranteed source of harm towards the baby, unlike drinking.

Not even that. You drive a car because you need to go from x to y. There’s no utility in drinking alcohol

What if I wanna go from sober to non-sober

Inject raw alchohol into your veins, when alchohol or booze is injected in you the results are quicker

Inject heroin

I went to a wedding recently and arrived at my seat to find out that everyone had a glass of prosecco poured ready for toasts, except me. I walked straight up to the bar, bump proudly on show, and told them that I didn't have a glass of prosecco by my seat. They didn't say a thing other than sorry.

I haven't had a lot to drink during pregnancy but I haven't completely abstained during special occasions or nice meals

Thank you for creating a future CVS staff member, /u/Witty_bear.

Piss off - how far back in my history did you have to go to find that? My daughter is very bright and is achieving milestones well past her age. The odd glass of Prosecco will do nothing to harm your newborn. It’s a small glass and generally Prosecco is 11/12% ABV.

Cope.

Fuck off.

What was their incredible and witty response?

Why is Reddit so supportive of pregnant drinking? I don’t think I’ve met a single person in real life who thinks that it’s a good idea, in any amount.

Reddit seems to really hate children in general.

The redditor is a creature racked with self-loathing.

They are pretty stupid to be fair

Children or redditors?

I mean children will grow out of their stupidity. Redditors, however....

Children or redditors

Yes

Children or redditors

Yes

Which is weird, since Reddit is filled with children

Definitely explains all the pedos.

Nah it's not that, reddit and woketards in general like to treat women like spoiled brats that are too dumb and useless to expect of them any responsibility or self control.

Have you ever watched Girls? It's basically the end result of American feminism, a bunch of sniveling irresponsible children that only care about themselves, that sister fucker unintentinally tried to warn us.

yydad

Reddit is full of children

Telling woman not to drink is trying to control their body.

And that's totally fascism, sweaty.

This actually surprised me. If this site was full of 40 year old soccer mom's I'd get it, but it's actually full of 20 y.o NEETs. Why are they defending women who lack the self control to not make their kids retarded?

because 1-they hate kids in general,and 2-arguing that you shouldnt harm a fetus by drinking is dangerously close to pro-life logic

That’s the truth but you’d never get them to admit it. It’d be better if they were just defending alcoholics but there’s an awful lot of defending social drinking while pregnant over there.

It's just a clump of cells, why does drinking/shooting up/coat hangering matter?

Imagine having to ask why a huge chunk of the NEETs on Reddit are obsessed with defending women under any circumstances

Same reason they unironically believe that any sex while alcohol had been consumed should be considered rape: severe FAS.

this site is full of old women now or men with the t levels of 1

because they are retarded

It means if their mommy had a couple of drinks then they got the touch'o'tard. Cant admit that

Same retards that actively advocate for mixed gender bathrooms talking about "idc what other people are doing in the stall, I just need to go!!"

No rational, productive, normal member of society would condone of mixed gender bathrooms nor pregnant drinking, but redditors are at best subhuman

If you make a problem about a tranny shitting in the same stall as you you're the retarded one.

I didn't say trannies, I said completely mixed gender. Men, women, little girls, little boys, queer faggots and the whole bunch using the same bathroom at the same time. That's what they advocate for and they see nothing wrong with it.

Is the concept of an unisex bathroom genuinely novel to you?

Genders are split up for a reason. Not everyone is a degenerate new age poly faggot

I don't think Reddit is. I think certain areas of Reddit are populated by extreme white knights and foids that are pregnant or have been pregnant before.

The biggest argument I ever got into IRL was when I told my cousin that "no, a beer here and there is not good for your unborn baby."

She just sperged out like I was lying/bringing into question here "parental abilities."

Moms like this tend to be very aggressive because they think being a mother gives them some type of insight into things thay have no expertise on. There's a reason so many mommy blogs are anti-vaccine.

I know an anti-vax couple that is a whole new level of woke. The foid was never vaccinated and apparently never had any real issues because of it while her husband was converted. They unironically believe that vaccines are the reason cancer is on the rise and that it is responsible for shit like alzheimers. They also homeschool their 8 year old.

These people need to be jailed and deported. ‘Liberty’ should not mean ‘freedom to be devastatingly retarded’.

They also homeschool their 8 year old.

At least they're removing the little sprog from the herd immunity pool.

They unironically believe that vaccines are the reason cancer is on the rise

No shit there, when fewer people are dying of smallpox, cholera and scarlet fever, the proportion of cancer deaths rises. It's like how giving soldiers steel helmets results in higher reports of head injuries.

I also follow some couples on insta and fb. They are bonkers. I actually found a pornstar who's anti-vax lol by searching a hashtag on FB.

Women think having a uterus and being able to do something that dogs can do makes them wise.

Well, the alternative is learning facts and logic, and that's hard work.

we dont deserve mums

You're really overthinking this pizza, it's just reddit being contrarian as that's what they confuse intelligence for.

It pisses me off to know there are mommy blog foids out there that have fear-mongered the risks of vaccines after downplaying the danger of their own pregnant boozing.

I trust you on this, you know from experience what can happen

You low IQ dramatards aren't even entertaining anymore tbh.

snap

Top 10 pictures taken seconds before disaster

Agrresive mom drinks

Child turns out to be retard

VaCcIneS cAuSe auTisM

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zozzle

Drugs good, self control bad.

There is a non-zero amount of alcohol consumption during pregnancy that isn't harmful, but we don't know what that amount is because there's no ethical way to test for it. You can't tell pregnant women to drink different amounts of alcohol just to see what happens. You're pretty much stuck using surveys to ask mothers how much they drank (like this study), and survey data is inherently less reliable than experimental data. The bottom line is that small amounts of drinking while pregnant will probably not cause any issues, but you're gambling with your baby's life if you do.

So what happens is some desperate freelancer who dropped out of pre-med gets paid $14 to write a Cracked article about how, actually, a beer every now and then is probably no big deal, and suddenly every childless 19 year old dude on Reddit is an expert on prenatal health care.

Huh? This is the first time I've ever seen this on reddit.

I didn't need to be reminded of that shitshow, fuck.

I thought the "her body her choice to booze while pregnant" comments in this thread were a meme but by God they actually have that mentality. They're justifying drinking while pregnant with, "well some Irish bartender said Guinness is good for the baby" lmao.

My brother is a waiter and he told me that, in his opinion, his job is to bring whatever you ask for. Even if it's several bottles of alcohol and you're obviously pregnant. That's you're decision, not his.

JFC. This is so wrong as well. The way liquor liability works in the US makes it fundamentally the responsibility of the server to police your alcohol intake. Individual servers and bartenders are frequently drawn into wrongful death lawsuits when some dickwad sneaks drinks from their friends (even after getting cut off) and falls in the river or whatever.

Only a subreddit as stupid as that one would turn it into an issue of female body autonomy.

lol

I still cringe reading that post a year after.

Cue the rest of my family chiming in with 'she'll have the champagne' 'of course she can' 'how dare you' etc.
(Grandmas were both prolific drinkers in their pregnancies).

It's good to see stupidity runs in the family.

From another post by the same woman

2nd Tri, I probably had a glass a week for a fun dinner or date out with my hubby.
Since about 30 weeks, I've had 2-3 glasses of wine a week. Always paired with food (we are doing Blue Apron and it's so fun). Wine is even part of my birth plan!

I see her mother drank as well, not just grandmother.

(Grandmas were both prolific drinkers in their pregnancies).

Makes fucking sense.

Holy fuck those comments... what the fuck?

Islam fucking when????

This actually made me upset. How do people like this even exist?

When I was 26 weeks pregnant my husband and I went on a babymoon in Ireland. I didn't drink my entire pregnancy but I decided to splurge and have a pint of Guinness at the factory. I was nervous about people being judgy, so when I cashed in my free drink voucher that came with my tour ticket at the Gravity Bar I explained to the bartender it was the only drink I had my entire pregnancy. He responded by telling me Guinness is the preferred beer of pregnant women in Ireland due to the nutrients. The Gravity Bar was also very crowded since it offered complete views of Dublin, and I was pleased when several tourists offered their seats to me so I could relax with my pint. From what I understand doctors in Europe do suggest pregnant women limit their alcohol ingestion somewhat, but the stigma is incredibly different there and many women do choose to drink in moderation.

Irish retardation suddenly makes sense

My body my choice type of thing

That's how they were made anyway

Why is Reddit so supportive of pregnant drinking? I don’t think I’ve met a single person in real life who thinks that it’s a good idea, in any amount.

Because that same Reddit has to keep up the facade that it's okay to abort a 9-month-old. It's a woman's body; she can do what she wants, fuck the baby.

If they start showing sympathy to fetuses, their worldview cracks.

Because if we abolish fetal alcohol syndrome, redditors will cease to exist

Why is Reddit so supportive of pregnant drinking?

Theyre all for drinking while breastfeeding too. Its fucking weird. A mom who is breastfeeding can go out and drink, pump and dump then breastfeed the next day with zero risk. But god damn will they fall all over themselves to defend a mom who is breastfeeding while on her third beer.

It's because redditors must constantly defend le wahmen in order to virtue how good and progressive they are.

It's a massive americel COPE, same as circumcision debate.

Still safest to avoid all alcohol during pregnancy though. Easier said than done but why risk it?

Probably because stress based risks in pregnancy start to outweigh fasd risks at the lowest levels which is why we're all irritated by the title

holy shit. this fuckin guy

Pregnant full blown alcoholics can’t just stop though. The risks to the woman and child are too high. They would need assistance to reduce alcohol to a safe level. Which is why when they give birth, the babies are born holding a pint of placenta and their first word is cheers!

God you had me in the first half

you should ping him you coward

oops I forgot

u/TD746

Although he seems to have backtracked on what he was implying in the comment I quoted so I'm not gonna shit all over him for it

not very drama of me but whatever

that was literally the worst ping ive ever seen in my entire life

Like there aren't a billion other ways to relieve stress that don't involve alcohol.

The only way to really study this is to go full Josef Mengele. Get a wide variety of identical twins, knock them all up and then forcefeed one of each hard liquor during their pregnancies.

Ethics in science IS 👏 HOLDING 👏 US 👏 BACK 👏.

Ethics in science IS 👏 HOLDING 👏 US 👏 BACK 👏.

This but unironically.

t. "volunteer" subject for vivisection class at Bussyville Medical University

Lol I wonder if ethics didn’t play such a big part we could conduct a lot of experiments on gay people

This but unironically

Science subs genuinely make me mad. It's always a bunch of room temperature IQ retards that lack basic knowledge of statistics and haven't understood or even read the paper going "akshually this study doesn't show anything, the authors are stupid."

What are these galaxy brain suns you’re frequenting in which the users have a grasp of Bayes theorem?

Come to /r/slatestarcodex, we have weekly Bayes masturbation sessions.

Study confirms Reddit user's worldview: Ha ha, that's so true! Sure, the sample size is a bit small, but everyone already knows that the results are correct.

Study conflicts with Reddit user's worldview: Bullshit. One study doesn't mean anything, so come back when you've got a dozen of them finding the same thing with p < 0.01.

I'm just waiting if there arr new researches that says that 100% confirms weed is not that good, that smoking anything at all is a big no-no. The "dude weed lmao" crowd will be so pissed, they're always attacking people that say that we shouldn't smoke it like we're doing these days

Imagine the full on salty blowback if scientists prove that weed is bad for you.

You'd be surprised how controversial some reddit "facts" are in the scientific community. The effects of violent video games are another good example.

They're actually questioning the methodology of the original paper of which the article is based which isn't too bad, it's just that the never do this consistently.

Of all times they decide to take an actual stand on questioning dumb pop science articles they do it on an article in which it does not matter. Drinking isn't a basic life necessity that we need to know the exact number of beers you can have before your baby turns out with signs of FAS. It's besides the point when it comes to public health.

weed good paper

Hmm yes everything is in order. No need to read the paper. Weed is in fact good.

Alcohol bad paper

They missed a comma so this is wrong.

TIL that "weed brought a baby back to life, who said he met Jesus and saw him blazing it 420 every day"

They always question the methodology, and it's always retarded.
"n too small!" like you can't draw solid conclusions from small n, or "actually, this can be explained by this one simple factor", like a random redditor would notice something within 10 seconds of reading a headline that the scientists and peer reviewers would miss that wasn't controlled for.

Having skimmed the paper Indont understand how you can take FASD as the exposure group to conclude that no amount is safe. Ideally you’d want to split exposure and non-exposure based on alcohol consumption vs. no alcohol consumed, not a diseased co-hort.

That's what they did, there was no FASD group, just one group with prenatal alcohol exposure, one without.

>redditors are pro drinking while pregnant

Whoa it all makes sense now.

I'm drying k but I'm not pregnant gaya

First Anti-vaxxers, now this..

It you can't be bothered to stop drinking, smoking, or doing drugs for nine months for your kid, I have a feeling you're gonna be a shitty parent.

Yeah, I don't judge people for not having their shit together, but don't let it victimize other people. And at the very least don't create another human life who's a victim from birth.

please don't kinkshame :(

Shaming bad parenting is my kink. :p

Just because one punch in the head won't kill you doesn't mean it's a good idea

drinking while pregnant = compulsory sterilization

There's people out there who don't drink coffee during pregnancy lol

Redditards defend drinking while pregnant because any other stance would pretty much obliterate being pro-choice.

Just link directly to CAfugees to show the negative effects of drinking during pregnancy

Oh so now we care about population, controlling factors, dosage, etc.

So women shouldn't do anything in their pregnancy unless it's beneficial to the developing fetus?

Well they could have an abortion, which is the opposite of beneficial to the fetus, but if you want to be ethical and raise the best possible human being...yes?

I mean, my god, no alcohol for 9 fucking months. My wife refused to get a cavity filled because she was freaked out over what the anesthetic might do to the fetus' brain, but here we are, crying over a pointless drug.

I worked in east tn for a few years and the amount of women that smoked and drank while pregnant was staggering. Hillbillies are truly the worst

The treatment group were teenagers that have been diagnosed with FASD. That to me does not support their throw away conclusion that, “not a drop of alcohol is considered safe”. It’s like looking at someone who died of a potassium overdose and going, no amount of bananas have been proven safe.

Oh good, I'm glad you're on the same level as peer reviewed scientists.

Gotta love all the scientifically enlightened redditors that know more than everybody else. /r/science is full of college dropouts that pretend to be knowledgeable.

I'm not seeing anything dramatic at all in the comments there... Just people explaining the study.

Leftists: Not vaccinating your children is abuse.

Leftists: Women should be allowed to drink while pregnant and give their children permanent brain damage.

Why do these fucking idiots exist

honestly fuck mayocide, Redditorcide should be our number one priority

They exist (in part) due to their parents drinking alcohol.

If you cant go 9 months without any alcohol maybe you should think more about having a kid

Imagine thinking you can commit to 18 years of parenting when you can't even commit to 9 months without booze.

Those kids have no chance, with or without FAS.

I deal with a lot of FASD kids and their families in my line of work. The amount of people (not just mothers) who think that a glass of wine or two doesn't hurt is staggering. I mean, I've had doctors say that. It was something that was "common wisdom" a few decades back.

By the way, the classic FASD face (small eyes, smooth philtrum, no upper lip) only occurs from alcohol exposure during a couple week period.

Ladies and gentleman: The Party of Science. Except when science recommends that women be responsible for any at all in their lives.

Um sorry sweaty advising women not to drink while pregnant is fascism .... read history 💅🏿💅🏿💅🏿