Shame on your toxic ways reddit. No, Netflix didn’t pay me and no I never got paid to post on reddit or rather accepted to post sponsored posts. But it’s heart breaking to see the amount of toxicity and threats you’re willing to spew at someone for using this platform as a 4 year old hobby now. Say what you will, we’re all on here together being bored and killing time.

Some of us enjoy lurking. Some enjoy shitposting. Others moderating. And sadly some enjoy toxic harassment without reason or proof.

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I agree. My point isnt that women have the right to harm their fetuses, just that the woman's well-being should be factored into decision making. The potential benefits to the mother should always be weighed against the risk of harm to the fetus.

I’m pro-choice on this but only for white women so all their developmentally challenged offspring that they end up having will drive them deep into a cycle of poverty for the rest of time.

This but unironically 🍸 🥴 🤰

My point isnt that women have the right to harm their fetuses, just that the woman's well-being should be factored into decision making. The potential benefits to the mother should always be weighed against the risk of harm to the fetus.

"but I neeeeeeeed a drink!"

https://i.imgur.com/3ikkG4z.jpg

Ivanka after a hard night. Poor girl.

somehow i feel like pizzashills mom went on a few benders while pregnant

i thought pizza was a swarthy dude

Shitpostradamus appeared to believe abstaining from drinking for nine months was an appropriate test for parental abilities. If we're imposing an unnecessary complete ban on alcohol for women, in order to test them, shouldn't we also test the father?

u/sillygoooses is it really that hard to get to the point of his statement? It is not an unnecessary ban on women when the study says no amount is safe.

I just posted a number of other studies that you might be interested in. However, I'll go ahead and post them again just for you.

O'Leary C, Zubrick SR, Taylor CL, Dixon G, Bower C. Prenatal alcohol exposure and language delay in 2-year-old children: the importance of dose and timing on risk. Pediatrics. 2009 Feb;123(2):547-54

Sayal K, Heron J, Golding J, Alati R, Smith GD, Gray R, Emond A. Binge pattern of alcohol consumption during pregnancy and childhood mental health outcomes: longitudinal population-based study. Pediatrics. 2009 Feb;123(2):e289-96

Abel, E.L. Fetal Alcohol Syndrome: the 'American Paradox'. Alcohol and Alcoholism. 1998. May-Jun; 33(3):195-201.

Robinson M, Oddy WH, McLean NJ, Jacoby P, Pennell CE, de Klerk NH, Zubrick SR, Stanley FJ, Newnham JP. Low-moderate prenatal alcohol exposure and risk to child behavioural development: a prospective cohort study. BJOG. 2010 Aug;117(9):1139-50.

O'Callaghan FV, O'Callaghan M, Najman JM, Williams GM, Bor W. Prenatal alcohol exposure and attention, learning and intellectual ability at 14 years: a prospective longitudinal study. Early Hum Dev. 2007 Feb;83(2):115-23.

Alati R, Macleod J, Hickman M, Sayal K, May M, Smith GD, Lawlor DA. Intrauterine exposure to alcohol and tobacco use and childhood IQ: findings from a parental-offspring comparison within the Avon Longitudinal Study of Parents and Children. Pediatr Res. 2008 Dec;64(6):659-66.

Skogerbo, A., Kesmodel, U., Wimberley, T., Stovring, H., Bertrand, J., Landro, N., Mortensen, E. “The Effects of Low to Moderate Alcohol Consumption and Binge Drinking in Early Pregnancy on Executive Function in 5-year-old Children.” BJOG. 2012; June 20.

Sood, B., Delaney-Black, V., Covington, C., Nordstrom-Klee, B., Ager, J., Templin, T., Janisse, J., Martier, S., Sokol, R. Prenatal Alcohol Exposure and Child Behavior and Age 6 to 7 Years: Dose Response Effect. Pediatrics. 2001; 108 (2): e34.

Albertsen K, Andersen AM, Olsen J, Grønbaek M. Alcohol consumption during pregnancy and the risk of preterm delivery. Am J Epidemiol. 2004 Jan 15;159(2):155-61.

Parazzini F, Chatenoud L, Surace M, Tozzi L, Salerio B, Bettoni G, Benzi G. Moderate alcohol drinking and risk of preterm birth. Eur J Clin Nutr. 2003 Oct;57(10):1345-9.

Henderson J, Gray R, Brocklehurst P. Systematic review of effects of low–moderate prenatal alcohol exposure on pregnancy outcome. BJOG 2007;114:243–252.

Anne-Marie Andersen et al. “Moderate Alcohol Intake during Pregnancy and Risk of Fetal Death.” International Journal of Epidemiology. 2012: 1-9.

Maconochie N, Doyle P, Prior S, Simmons R. Risk factors for first trimester miscarriage—results from a UK-population-based case–control study. BJOG 2007;114:170–186. Larroque B, Kaminski, M. "Prenatal Alcohol Exposure and Development at Preschool Age: Main Results of a French Study". Alcoholism: Clinical and Experimental Research. 1998 22(2): 295-303

Streissguth A, Barr H, Sampson P, Darby B, Martin D. "IQ at age 4 in Relation to Maternal Alcohol Use and Smoking During Pregnancy," Developmental Psychology. 1989 25(1):3-11.

Parazzini F, Chatenoud L, Surace M, Tozzi L, Salerio B, Bettoni G, Benzi G. Moderate alcohol drinking and risk of preterm birth. Eur J Clin Nutr. 2003 Oct;57(10):1345-9.

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The age on the citations range from 1989 to 2012. So what you’re saying is a book by an economist written in 2013 is more accurate than research conducted by neuroscientist in 2019?

I'm saying that one weak study of roughly 40 teenagers doesn't prove anything.

People make a good point when arguing with climate change skeptics when they say, "What the harm in living responsibly?"

Does that not apply here?

Applies even better when all that "living responsibly" asks of you in this case is to temporarily abstain from a single luxury.

and the stakes are not creating a defective person you are financially responsible for

A study is not weak because you do not like the results. But anyways let's take a look at the newest study you pointed to.

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Anne-Marie Andersen et al. “Moderate Alcohol Intake during Pregnancy and Risk of Fetal Death.” International Journal of Epidemiology. 2012: 1-9.

CONCLUSIONS:

Even low amounts of alcohol consumption during early pregnancy increased the risk of spontaneous abortion substantially. The results indicate that the fetus is particularly susceptible to alcohol exposure early in pregnancy.

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Sure, there are other studies that say low amounts of alcohol is ok. But if there are valid studies that say it is, and it isn't ok, to drink low amounts of alcohol while pregnant, why risk it? Is one glass of wine a night worth potential lifelong harm to your child?

implying that the person you're responding to ever read any of those publications past the title

Because she hasn't read a single one and it's copypasta from another degenerate wine aunt desperately justifying her horrific offspring.

The new definition for C O P E should be this: Finding 15 research articles to justify giving fetal alcohol syndrome to your child.

Also, much of your research is old (literally from the 80's) and doesn't approach the sample sizes of current works. Zzzzzzzzzzzz

imagine doing all this just to cope with the fact that you made your child retarded because you couldn't put a wine glass down for less than a year

Imagine the peak of feminism being the right to give your child fetal alcohol syndrome.

If there were a repeatable, verifiable way to give you child down syndrome, feminists would argue for the right to do it.

"Denying the right to Downs is ableist"

You don't understand, if the lady wants it she should be able to do it, it's her body after all sweaty.

even after birth no takebacks

Based and FESpilled.

roastie cope

What the fuck happened to r/Drama. This is like the third post I've seen in the past few days where ppl are straight up downvoting lolcows. You're scaring them off retards

There's a few people that unironically piss me off: shoplifters and their apologists, retards who try to make their cat vegan and scumbags who are too weak willed to avoid pickling their own children.

poor_waiter_refused_me_champagne_at_mothers_day

Reminds me of one of my favorite reddit - twilightzone posts.

/u/bubbleblonde108 is a terrible, alcoholic mother

The username alone gives her a 100% chance of being a terrible mother, tbqhfam

Was thinking about that post too. Bugs me seeing it again with all those FAS mommies,

Women can drink a glass of wine in the third trimester. No need to go all Carrie Nation about it.

Is that what your mom said when you confronted her?

You guys really are a bunch of prudes huh? Not very radical and not very centrist.

You’re out of your element. There was an r/science thread from earlier about an fMRI study that showed FASD brain patterns unique to children of mothers who reported drinking anything at all, compared to mothers who reported no drinking. Not full on FAS (wide spaced eyes, low IQ, etc) but more like brain patterns associated with borderline personality disorder and such.

Every day we deal with people who can’t quite get their shit together enough to get off drugs and/or at least not be an *cel, much of which has to do what womb you came out of. Asking mothers to be a bit responsible with who they’re unleashing on the world is a lot closer to the center than forced sterilization and such.

You basement creatures get so mad about their moms drinking a little wine.

How wide are your eyes spaced?

You basement creatures get so mad about your moms drinking a little wine.

Yes, kids get mad when their mum drink wine during gestation.

No, we're mad they don't abort, thus making us put up with their retarded spawns.

Qouth the smoothbrain

Thank you for proving my point.

You have a smoohbrain thanks to your Mayo https://youtu.be/a-AZqS--VnY

Have the Slavs finally ascended into mayohood?

Who is mad other than these pregnant women who can’t stand not drinking for nine months? lmao

No I’m not mad that I don’t have FAS and neither will my children 👶

My wife had a glass of wine like 5 times and the resulting toddler can count to fifty at 20 my months. This shit is just a bunch neets blaming mommy for drinking too much and using it to explain their social isolation.

You sound more mad than anyone else in this thread man chill out with a foetal brew

He responded by telling me Guinness is the preferred beer of pregnant women in Ireland due to the nutrients.

Lmao potatocels BTFO

I've heard that doctors used to give it to pregnant women in 19th and early 20th century.

They also used cocaine as a medicine back then.

That explains a lot actually

It's for bog-cel's braincells

Well if your mom is retarded enough to find that justification acceptable odds are the FAS can't damage you much more than your genes already have.

Based capitalist bartender tells Karen some shit about nutrients, figures he'll get bigger tip while giving alcoholic alcohol

What the actual fuck is that place, they’re all jolly about it too its infuriating

never trust a gussy to carry your seed. Always put it in bussy instead

How vile.

shameful whores

Holy fuck that's a nutty thread

The top controversial comment is some guy just saying he doesnt get why women drink while pregnant. Someone shut this sub down before any more (non-mayo) babies get hurt.

Fucking baffled a science sub is that full of "muh social constructs make me drink".

Imagine thinking exposure to a neurotoxin has no negative effects on health.

In Huxley's Brave New World, one of the ways that the society creates a stratification is through injecting alcohol to developing test tube fetuses.

Peak. Irony.

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because it says a lot about our society

We sure do live in one alright

it's been a tough day better have a drink and risk being stuck with a retard baby for the rest of my life- typical foid

> Not sure if this is true or not, but I am SO considering this to be true and having a nice big glass when I come home from delivery lol!

Most normal people don't even go through this thought process. The fuck?

She's an addict.

Meanwhile, I haven't seen a single study on the negative effects of marijuana but people still view it as a harmful drug.

HOW IS INHALING SMOKE FROM LITERALLY BURNING LEAVES DIRECTLY THROUGH YOUR MOUTH SAFE FOR YOU

If you can’t stay 9 months without alcohol, especially for the reason that you don’t want to impair your child, maybe you shouldn’t have children