It really boggles my mind why these nerds make such a big deal out of this shit. It’s like 45 extra seconds to switch windows out of steam and into epic games and click the play button
They’re more entitled than even the whiniest welfare queens and red state numbnuts
Valve will never do this, and Epic knows this so they are basically virtue signaling at this point, pretending they are so "pro-developer and pro-consumer". The only reason developers are taking these deals is not because of the 88/12 split but because of god knows how much cash Epic throws at them. Otherwise steam is just a better platform/product.
You do realize that the '30%' is only when its bought on the Steam store.
Valve lets publishers however generate as many steam keys as they want for free and sell them anywhere else and takes a whopping 0% out of each sale all while allowing them to use all of the features that the Steam platform provides.
i dont play pc games anymore but like 5 years ago when i did i had to deal with the uplay launcher, origin launcher, and steam. it really did not bother me that much that i had to lift my finger and click a half dozen more times. if your computer is good enough to run modern games this should not be a HUGE deal like the screeching hordes of reddit make it out to be.
^ this. I mean cry all you want, your fanboyism means nothing in the real world. That's why Spotify went publicly wild against Apple with and the european lawsuit. Exact same conditions (Apple taking a big chunk and not even allowing things like linking to an external site to buy your subscription or even sending notifications of deals when Apple Music does this all the time).
lol origin is still shit, people have just come to terms with it, same way they did with blizzard’s shitty launcher, same way they did with valve’s shitty launcher, same way they will with epic’s shitty launcher
I did for while in college to look cool to my computer science friends. Then I realized I wasn't cool, my friends weren't cool and Linux is a pain in the ass.
People on Reddit hate it, mostly the backlash is Steam fanboys. People hated Steam at first, too. I think EGS is going to be a valid competitor to Steam but only time will tell.
Yeah I think PC exclusivity is better than console, but I don't have a big problem with either one really. Would be nice if I could play Demon's Souls on PC, same with Bloodborne, but at least with launcher exclusivity I don't have to drop $350 every 5 years for a handful of games. Also, if I already know I want a game, reviews don't really matter, but Epic does need to add things like PS4 controller compatibility and other stuff if they want to compete.
I think their plan is to try and build some sort of critical mass with their shitty store before their Fortnite money runs out.
It's sort of the opposite approach Valve took, which was to make a bunch of games first, then start the store as a side business. Epic is literally funneling all their cash into their storefront in order to have it become it's chief money maker and compete directly with Steam.
I honestly don't know how it's going to work out for them, but the fact that Steam isn't budging on their profit sharing split leads me to believe that Valve doesn't feel particularly imperiled by them.
It's possible that they are also waiting for the right time to stick the knife in Epic.
Like I said, as soon as their fortnite money starts to run out, they'll be essentially just competing with Steam over a storefront and Valve has much, much, much deeper pockets than Epic does. They could then turn around and undercut Epic, essentially driving them out of business.
I guess I can understand why Epic is doing what they're doing, but I still think they're playing a game of retarded chicken with Valve that they're going to lose.
Fortnite made them $3 billion in a single year. Idk about Steam having bigger pockets at this point.
We won't know for sure because Valve isn't a public company, but conservative estimates are that they're making something like 4-5 billion a year as their "take" of the Steam store. This article claims they made 4.3 billion two years ago so I think it's reasonable that it'd be higher by now considering sales keep growing.
That of course doesn't include all the other stuff that Valve as a company sells, just their take of games sold on the store.
Even with Epic's windfall from Fortnite and UE4 licensing and their storefront, I doubt it all totals up what Valve makes just from Steam and it's unrealistic to think that Fortnite sales are going to show growth like Steam has over the last decade, we all know that they're going to fall, possibly even dramatically since it's all based around a single game IP. It's risky, which is why I said they're putting all their eggs in their Epic Store basket. That's the future for that company.
I'm just pointing out that they don't have enough money to buy their way into being competitive with Steam.
Yup. Games are also super short, like 10 minutes or less. It's a fun game to play mindlessly and waste time and it's a fun game to try and get really good at. It also removes many of the downsides of real soccer like Europeans.
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1 WarSanchez 2019-05-01
I linked the whole fucking thread because it's full of salt.
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1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2019-05-01
Epic is officially my favorite company.
1 hyledog 2019-05-01
It really boggles my mind why these nerds make such a big deal out of this shit. It’s like 45 extra seconds to switch windows out of steam and into epic games and click the play button
They’re more entitled than even the whiniest welfare queens and red state numbnuts
1 employee10038080 2019-05-01
Epic has a history of milking games dry. I think they're more worried about that.
1 autistitron 2019-05-01
Epic also said they'd quit doing this if steam just stops taking a fat 30% out of everyone's game sales.
Valve won't because they're a greedy monopoly and autists are unironically defending that so they dont have to launch another program.
1 Zero5urvivers 2019-05-01
Do you honestly think Epic will stop doing this stuff if Valve drops their cut?
1 VidiotGamer 2019-05-01
A lot of people are horribly retarded, so probably.
1 Alicesnakebae 2019-05-01
Gamers are gullible morons
1 FarTooManySpoons 2019-05-01
They'd probably have to bump up the payments on future exclusivity agreements though.
1 Dungold 2019-05-01
Valve will never do this, and Epic knows this so they are basically virtue signaling at this point, pretending they are so "pro-developer and pro-consumer". The only reason developers are taking these deals is not because of the 88/12 split but because of god knows how much cash Epic throws at them. Otherwise steam is just a better platform/product.
1 Wimzer 2019-05-01
Retard alert
1 FearOfBees 2019-05-01
Yes it's the capital solution to steam having what is a borderline monopoly.
1 Omnifarious 2019-05-01
You do realize that the '30%' is only when its bought on the Steam store.
Valve lets publishers however generate as many steam keys as they want for free and sell them anywhere else and takes a whopping 0% out of each sale all while allowing them to use all of the features that the Steam platform provides.
Oh lawdy they so evil and monopolistic!
1 high_side 2019-05-01
Yeah, you don't understand app stores or game publishers. Don't get me wrong, that is chad af, but they have legitimate gripes for their world.
1 SEAN771177 2019-05-01
Half of them don't either and just regurgitate what they read on reddit
1 high_side 2019-05-01
Well they are gamers.
1 XenoSenpai 2019-05-01
You must love bloatware then. To each their own.
1 hyledog 2019-05-01
i dont play pc games anymore but like 5 years ago when i did i had to deal with the uplay launcher, origin launcher, and steam. it really did not bother me that much that i had to lift my finger and click a half dozen more times. if your computer is good enough to run modern games this should not be a HUGE deal like the screeching hordes of reddit make it out to be.
1 YungCamus 2019-05-01
Steam is bloatware tho. It's original and main purpose is to be DRM. Games don't *need * Drm
1 XenoSenpai 2019-05-01
I agree, with that people will pirate it anyway regardless of what DRM is on the game.
1 uniqueguy263 2019-05-01
And it actually makes games cheaper. The 30% thing every app store does is ridiculous
1 SpiceAndEvNice 2019-05-01
^ this. I mean cry all you want, your fanboyism means nothing in the real world. That's why Spotify went publicly wild against Apple with and the european lawsuit. Exact same conditions (Apple taking a big chunk and not even allowing things like linking to an external site to buy your subscription or even sending notifications of deals when Apple Music does this all the time).
1 Alicesnakebae 2019-05-01
None are cheaper tho. Where the fuck these deals you liar
1 -Kite-Man- 2019-05-01
Fun Fact: Epic was founded by literal MRAs who have gone on to quit the company and devote themselves to MRA advocacy.
Either Rob or Paul Elam i cant be bothered to figure out which.
OMF2097 was pretty badass tho. Fucking awesome intro song. And giant robots. And the 'anime' TV talking head guy who shittalks whoever loses.
1 boyoyoyoyong 2019-05-01
I want every mid sized video game publisher to create their own version of steam
1 employee10038080 2019-05-01
I stay awake at night thinking about this.
1 gotMUSE 2019-05-01
The amount of crying over another taskbar icon is astounding.
1 Mixmeister711 2019-05-01
It's not about the taskbar Icon it's about mah precious RAM.
1 morerokk 2019-05-01
It's not just an icon. Nobody cared when EA made Origin.
Epic is literally buying out random existing games and forcing them to be exclusive on their own platform.
1 -Kite-Man- 2019-05-01
I love it when people open up by revealing they have no idea what the fuck they're talking about.
Lots of people had a problem with it. Lots and lots and lots.
1 Dopella 2019-05-01
and people stopped having problem when Oregon stopped being shit. except EGS will always stay a chink botnet
1 -Kite-Man- 2019-05-01
when did that happen?
1 Dopella 2019-05-01
No idea as I dont use it, but most people say it's a good store now. That's irrelevant as there's no good games, but that's another topic
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2019-05-01
lol origin is still shit, people have just come to terms with it, same way they did with blizzard’s shitty launcher, same way they did with valve’s shitty launcher, same way they will with epic’s shitty launcher
1 Dopella 2019-05-01
Hello cheng
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2019-05-01
ni hao gamer scum
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1 Bluewhaleswimmer 2019-05-01
Lol people got hella mad when EA stopped releasing their games on Steam.
1 PracticalOnions 2019-05-01
Fr, there was a massive shitstorm when it was revealed that Mass Effect 3 wouldn’t be on steam lmao
1 Dolemarq 2019-05-01
This was at 33% 20 mins ago. The rocket league discord channels are blowing up over this.
1 AgitatedFudge 2019-05-01
i didnt even consider going to discord for more
1 Dolemarq 2019-05-01
They had to put the #rocketleague channels on slow mode and I guess mods were getting "@'ed" and ... yeah lots of drama.
1 uniqueguy263 2019-05-01
People actually think this is why we need communism, because indie game development is a thing under communism
1 Chad_McCentrist 2019-05-01
Imagine unironically using Linux.
1 employee10038080 2019-05-01
I did for while in college to look cool to my computer science friends. Then I realized I wasn't cool, my friends weren't cool and Linux is a pain in the ass.
1 Dopella 2019-05-01
based brainlet
1 POST_BUSSY 2019-05-01
Please don't autistshame me
1 lesdoggg 2019-05-01
dont need norton if i use ubnutu 🤷♂️
1 Mixmeister711 2019-05-01
1 istural 2019-05-01
If you have enough problems with viruses that you swap to Linux you may want to stop being autistic and not click every download button that you see.
1 lesdoggg 2019-05-01
no
1 chimpan_z 2019-05-01
cope
1 GandhiNuke 2019-05-01
Imagine unironically using Windows 10.
Or worse, OS X.
1 istural 2019-05-01
Real chase use xp
1 Non_Pirater1879 2019-05-01
Imagine using technology unironically
1 employee10038080 2019-05-01
My brother and his friends are serious rocket league players. They're literally writing essays about how shitty this is in our group chat.
I really hate Epic but this is worth it for all the butthurt.
1 ManBearFridge 2019-05-01
It's no longer going to be sold on steam.
Is Epic giving bigger cuts in exchange for going exclusive? I don't see how that would be better than having a bigger market exposure.
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2019-05-01
They bought the company that makes it. Resistance is unironically futile. Epic will rule the world.
1 ManBearFridge 2019-05-01
Ah, that makes much more sense. I really don't see Epic surviving with how much everyone hates it, but one can dream.
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2019-05-01
People on Reddit hate it, mostly the backlash is Steam fanboys. People hated Steam at first, too. I think EGS is going to be a valid competitor to Steam but only time will tell.
1 ManBearFridge 2019-05-01
Competition is good, but they do seem to be gathering an annoying number of exclusive games. Other than that I don't get the hate.
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2019-05-01
Yeah I think PC exclusivity is better than console, but I don't have a big problem with either one really. Would be nice if I could play Demon's Souls on PC, same with Bloodborne, but at least with launcher exclusivity I don't have to drop $350 every 5 years for a handful of games. Also, if I already know I want a game, reviews don't really matter, but Epic does need to add things like PS4 controller compatibility and other stuff if they want to compete.
1 ManBearFridge 2019-05-01
True that
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2019-05-01
the most embarrassing thing gamers have ever done
1 VidiotGamer 2019-05-01
I think their plan is to try and build some sort of critical mass with their shitty store before their Fortnite money runs out.
It's sort of the opposite approach Valve took, which was to make a bunch of games first, then start the store as a side business. Epic is literally funneling all their cash into their storefront in order to have it become it's chief money maker and compete directly with Steam.
I honestly don't know how it's going to work out for them, but the fact that Steam isn't budging on their profit sharing split leads me to believe that Valve doesn't feel particularly imperiled by them.
It's possible that they are also waiting for the right time to stick the knife in Epic.
Like I said, as soon as their fortnite money starts to run out, they'll be essentially just competing with Steam over a storefront and Valve has much, much, much deeper pockets than Epic does. They could then turn around and undercut Epic, essentially driving them out of business.
I guess I can understand why Epic is doing what they're doing, but I still think they're playing a game of retarded chicken with Valve that they're going to lose.
1 timbowen 2019-05-01
Epic also owns the Unreal Engine and is almost certainly waiving or reducing licensing costs if you offer your game exclusively on the Epic Store.
1 VidiotGamer 2019-05-01
I know that, but I'm also certain that Valve makes more money selling virtual hats than Epic does in licensing UE4.
1 LogicalSignal9 2019-05-01
Tencent owns like 40% of Epic or something big. Fortnite made them $3 billion in a single year. Idk about Steam having bigger pockets at this point.
The entire Steam platform had about the same revenue as just Fortnite itself.
1 VidiotGamer 2019-05-01
We won't know for sure because Valve isn't a public company, but conservative estimates are that they're making something like 4-5 billion a year as their "take" of the Steam store. This article claims they made 4.3 billion two years ago so I think it's reasonable that it'd be higher by now considering sales keep growing.
That of course doesn't include all the other stuff that Valve as a company sells, just their take of games sold on the store.
Even with Epic's windfall from Fortnite and UE4 licensing and their storefront, I doubt it all totals up what Valve makes just from Steam and it's unrealistic to think that Fortnite sales are going to show growth like Steam has over the last decade, we all know that they're going to fall, possibly even dramatically since it's all based around a single game IP. It's risky, which is why I said they're putting all their eggs in their Epic Store basket. That's the future for that company.
I'm just pointing out that they don't have enough money to buy their way into being competitive with Steam.
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1 Dildokin 2019-05-01
Do they just hate it because they made forknife or because its too hard to use two launchers? Doesnt seem like a lot of them are linux nerds.
1 BumwineBaudelaire 2019-05-01
Fortnite
China
1 YourLocalMonarchist 2019-05-01
I dont understand how this game is so popular. its like soccer but with cars?
1 Slack_Irritant 2019-05-01
Yup. Games are also super short, like 10 minutes or less. It's a fun game to play mindlessly and waste time and it's a fun game to try and get really good at. It also removes many of the downsides of real soccer like Europeans.
1 Starship_Litterbox_C 2019-05-01
Obviously you don't smoke weed or vape, bro.
1 HIVnotAdeathSentence 2019-05-01
Whatever, games died with the ESRB
1 WiggityWatchinNews 2019-05-01
I only Rocket League on Xbox so I could less than a fuck
1 Alicesnakebae 2019-05-01
So where dropping the ball boys