You are seemingly intelligent enough to think of a witty Reddit name and even put a little clever flair next to it, yet this escapes you? Sweaty, go to an evening class or something....
Imagine you suck a dudes dick and it is totally not gay because he is a woman. You know. Sometimes you just want to suck dick, but not admit that you are gay. You get all hyped up and are horny as fuck and about to come because you have this hot dudes dick in your mouth. And then he tells you he is a SHE. Orgasm fucking ruined!!! If I want to fuck a woman without being gay, I could just fuck gussie. But sometimes I want a man (not gay!) and suddenly "I am a woman, btw!". ...yeah! I know! This is why it is not gay! This is what we tell the others AFTER I blowed you.
Again, no, trans people do not trick men. Trans people are hurt/killed, yes. Many perpetrators who hurt/kill trans people justify it by claiming they were tricked or were going to be tricked. Perpetuating the myth that trans people trick men also feeds into the potential for violence from people with such warped ideas of sexuality that they need to seek revenge on trans people they find attractive.
I'm not interested in your justifications and rape apologia. Luring people into a sexual encounter by misleading them about your sex is beyond heinous and deserves the highest capital punishment.
Obviously you can find individual examples of all kinds of things. Humans do crazy shit. But this doesn't mean it's a consistent thing that trans people do, even uncommonly, which is how it's portrayed and the problem. Just like an example of a male school shooter doesn't mean that all men should be branded as likely school shooters.
I'm just wondering, if trap is a slur that leads to violence because it reinforces the idea that trans people trap others into having sex with them and then get murdered when the oblivious idiots find out... but your only evidence of trans people getting murdered is after they fucked someone and didn't disclose who they are prior to that... doesn't that make that term accurate? đ€
Violence to trans women does not happen only during that scenario. Violence to trans women happens in many scenarios, and the idea of that scenario happening alone is used to justify it.
Violence to trans women happens in many scenarios, and the idea of that scenario happening alone is used to justify it.
I'm gonna need some receipts for that.
Until then, I'm gonna assume that in most western countries, this is really rare because you have to be mentally unstable to assault someone who is not associated with you in any way or interacting with you based on them being trans. Sure, may happen, but is it really a big scale problem? đ€
Dana Martin, 31, a Black transgender woman, was fatally shot in Montgomery, Alabama, on January 6. Reports stated that she was found in a roadside ditch in her vehicle and pronounced dead at the scene. Daroneshia Duncan-Boyd, an Alabama-based trans advocate, said that âshe was a person that was loved by many.â
Claire Legato, 21, a Black transgender woman, was fatally shot in Cleveland on April 15. Local media reportsthat Legato was shot in the head after an argument broke out between her mother and the suspect. She was taken to a nearby hospital and died from her injuries on May 14. Friends and family took to social media to mourn Legatoâs death, remembering her as someone who was âfull of life.â
Christa Leigh Steele-Knudslien, 42, was found dead in her home on January 5 in North Adams, Massachusetts. Steele-Knudslien organized and produced the Miss Trans New England and other pageants, and was loved and known by many in both the local and national trans community.
Viccky Gutierrez, 33, a transgender woman from Honduras was stabbed and had her body set ablaze inside her Los Angeles home on January 10. Friends described her as âa young trans Latina immigrant woman whose warm smile would give anyone comfort.âÂ
Celine Walker, 36, was fatally shot in a hotel room on on February 4 in Jacksonville, Florida. It was not known for several days that Walker was trans because local police claimed to not refer to victims as transgender. Investigators are still looking for a suspect in her death.
Tonya Harvey, 35, was fatally shot on February 6 in Buffalo, New York. A friend of Harveyâs expressed her condolences on Facebook, writing: âI knew her since I started transitioning, she was so sweet and loving.â Police have confirmed they are looking into the incident as a possible hate crime.Â
Zakaria Fry, 28, went missing in New Mexico in mid-January. Her body was later found 40 miles outside of Albuquerque on February 19. Albuquerque Police arrested and charged Charles Spiess with two open counts of murder. Fry's loved ones shared condolences on Facebook with one friend saying: "You were my older sister. You took care of me and loved me like family. Iâll forever love you. Iâm sorry.â
Phylicia Mitchell, 45, was shot and killed outside her home on February 23 in Cleveland, Ohio. On April 10, Cleveland.com reported that a warrant has been issued for the arrest of Gary Sanders. Sanders was charged with aggravated murder in Mitchell's death. Her longtime partner, Shane Mitchell, described her as "funny and kind" and that "everyone loved her."
Amia Tyrae Berryman, 28, was fatally shot at a local motel on March 26 in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Few details are known about the crime, and police report they have no suspects or persons of interest at this time.
Sasha Wall, 29, a transgender woman of color, was fatally shot on April 1 in Chesterfield County, South Carolina. The FBI is assisting with local investigators, and are analyzing phone records and collecting DNA evidence. Donovan Dunlap, a friend of Wallâs, expressed condolences on Facebook, writing, âI will miss you my beautiful sister. I cannot sleep, I hope they find who did this.âÂ
Karla Patricia Flores-PavĂłn, 26, was found choked to death in her apartment in Dallas, Texas, on May 9. Dallas Police arrested 24-year-old Jimmy Eugene Johnson III on May 17, charging him with Flores-PavĂłnâs murder. "It hurts a lot, you were a good-hearted person. Sister, fly high. We will remember you with love. Your beautiful smile will stay with us,â a friend posted on her Facebook page.
Nino Fortson, 36, was fataly shot in Atlanta on May 13. City police were nearby executing a traffic stop and rushed to the scene, but Forston later died at the hospital, said transgender advocate Monica Roberts.
Gigi Pierce, 28, was fatally shot on May 21 in Portland, Oregon. When officers arrived they tried to administer aid, but Pierce died at the scene. Police investigators say they believe that Pierce was shot during an altercation with Sophia Adler, who has been charged with Pierceâs murder, according to KGW-TV.
Roxana HernĂĄndez, 33, âpassed away on May 25 while in the custody of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) after fleeing violence and discrimination in Honduras. After an autopsy report strongly indicated HernĂĄndez was beaten in ICE custody before her death, the agency is falsely claiming its press release announcing her death constitutes its report and is disputing the accuracy of eyewitness accounts of abuse from detainees held with her in custody prior to her death.
Antash'a English, 38, was fatally injured in drive-by shooting in Jacksonville, Florida on June 1. On her Facebook page, English described herself as an âindependentâ transgender woman who âthrives on being the best personâ she can be. The Jacksonville Sheriffâs Office has declared an active murder investigation and asks anyone with information to contact their office.
Diamond Stephens, 39, was found shot to death on June 18 in Meridian, Mississippi. In interviews with a local television station, family members said that Stephens had an âincredible personality.â As is too often the case in the reporting of anti-transgender violence, Stephens was originally misgendered in local police statements and media reports, which delayed our awareness of this deadly incident.
Cathalina Christina James, 24, was fatally shot in Jacksonville, Florida, on June 24. In an interview with First Coast News, Jamesâ mother described her daughter as having a âbig and boldâ personality, saying she loved to dance and travel. James is the third transgender woman murdered and the fourth shot in the Florida city this year.
Keisha Wells, 54, was found dead with a gunshot wound to her abdomen in the parking lot of an apartment complex on June 24, according to Cleveland.com. A longtime friend of Wells described her as âthe nicest person everâ but also a âtough cookie.â
Sasha Garden, 27, was found dead with signs of trauma in Orlando, Florida, early July 19. Originally from Wisconsin, Garden is remembered by loved ones as a âfirecrackerâ who âdidnât hold anything back.â Friend and local transgender activist Mulan Montrese Williams recalls that Garden was a talented and aspiring hair stylist and had been saving money to fund her transition.
Vontashia Bell, 18, was fatally shot on August 30 in a neighborhood of Shreveport, Lousiana. The Louisiana Trans Advocates organization released a statement condemning the shooting and calling on the cityâs leaders to help curb the violence against the trans community.
Dejanay Stanton, 24, was found with a fatal gunshot wound to the head on August 30, according to media reports. After an autopsy, her death was ruled a homicideand the investigation is ongoing. âEvery time you saw her she had a smile on her face," said LaSaia Wade, executive director of Brave Space Alliance. âShe was just trying to live her best life as a young girl.â
Shantee Tucker, 30, was found with a fatal gunshot wound in the back in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, on Sept. 5. Friends and family honored her life and mourned her death on Facebook, recalling that she was like âanother big sisterâ to them and remembering her âbeautiful spirit and fun aura.â
Londonn Moore, 20, was found dead of multiple gunshot wounds in a remote area of North Port, Florida on Sept. 8. Moore is remembered by her family and other loved ones, who described her as âhilariousâ and someone who âmade everyone laugh all the time.â
Nikki Enriquez, 28, was one of four women killed in Sept. in what local officials describe as a âserial killing spreeâ allegedly carried out by an intel supervisor for the U.S. Border Patrol. Enriquez, who also went by the name Janelle, is survived by numerous loved ones that were âsad and in disbeliefâ at her death. Cousin Veronica Castillo described her as a âvery outgoingâ person who loved to party and was beloved by the local LGBTQ community.
Ciara Minaj Carter Frazier, 31, was fatally stabbed and her body left behind an abandoned building by a man with whom she was arguing on October 3 in Chicago. As reported in the Sun Times, Chicago police declared Frazierâs death a homicide after appearing on the scene. She is remembered by friends and loved ones, who said that she will âalways be missed.â
Regina Denise Brown, 53, a trans woman of color, was found dead in her burning home in South Carolina on October 7. Authorities charged Jenkins with murder in November after he confessed to killing Brown during a physical altercation. Brown was described as a âgreat lady with a big heartâ to PinkNews.Â
Tydi Dansbury, 37, a Black transgender woman, was fatally shot in Baltimore on November 26. Few details are known about the circumstances of her death, and the Baltimore Police Department is urging anyone with information to come forward.
Keanna Mattel, 35, a Black transgender woman, was fatally shot in Detroit, Michigan on December 7. In 2015, Mattel, who also went by the name Kelly Stough, spoke against anti-trans violence epidemic, noting that âpolice are unaware with our struggle so they have no sympathy for us.â Friends remember Mattel as âa sweetheart and beautiful character.â
Mesha Caldwell, 41, a black transgender woman from Canton, Mississippi, was found shot to death the evening of January 4. The murder is still under investigation and no suspects have been arrested.
Sean Hake, 23, a transgender man in Sharon, Pennsylvania, died after he was shot by police responding to a 911 call from his mother. A friend told WKBN that Sean "had a genuinely good heart and he had struggled with his problems."
Jamie Lee Wounded Arrow, 28, an American Indian woman who identified as transgender and two-spirit, was found dead in her apartment in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. A suspect, 25-year-old Joshua Rayvon LeClaire, has been arrested and charged with murder and manslaughter in connection with her death.
JoJo Striker, 23, a transgender woman, was found killed in Toledo, Ohio, on February 8. Strikerâs mother, Shanda Striker, described her as âfunny and entertainingâ and said her family loved her deeply.Â
Tiara Richmond, also known as Keke Collier, 24, was fatally shot in Chicago on the morning of February 21. A transgender woman of color, she was found dead on the same street as two other transgender women that were killed in 2012.Â
Chyna Gibson, 31, a Black transgender woman, was shot and killed in New Orleans on February 25. Chyna was a much-loved performer in the ballroom community who was visiting friends and family in New Orleans at the time of her death.Â
Ciara McElveen, 26, a transgender woman of color, was stabbed to death in New Orleans on February 27. McElveen did outreach for the homeless community. As of February 28, 2017, HRC has tracked at least nine murders of transgender people in Louisiana since 2013.
Jaquarrius Holland, 18, was shot to death in Monroe, Louisiana, on February 19. One friend, Chesna Littleberry, told Mic that Holland was âlike a younger sisterâ and had helped her learn to accept herself.
Alphonza Watson, 38, was shot and killed in Baltimore, Maryland, on March 22. Watsonâs mother said her daughter was âthe sunshine of our family,â a âcaring, passionateâ person who loved cooking and gardening.
Chay Reed, 28, a transgender woman of color, was shot and killed on April 21 in Miami. Reedâs longtime friend told Mic about their longtime friendship -- describing her as someone who was full of life and beloved by many.
Kenneth Bostick, 59, was found with severe injuries on a Manhattan sidewalk, he later died of his injuries. Few details about Bostickâs life have been reported, he is believed to have been homeless at the time he was attacked.*
Sherrell Faulkner, 46, a transgender woman of color died on May 16, of injuries sustained during an attack on November 30, 2016 in Charlotte, North Carolina. Police are treating the assault as a homicide. No arrests have been made at this point.
Kenne McFadden, 27, was found in the San Antonio River on April 9. Police believe she was pushed into the river, which runs through downtown San Antonio. A high-school friend of McFadden described her to local mediaas assertive, charismatic and lovable. On January 25, 2018, a 19-year-old man was charged with her murder.
Kendra Marie Adams, 28, was found in a building that was under construction and had burns on her body on June 13. Police have charged Michael Davis, 45, with Adamsâ murder. Adams also went by Josie Berrios, the name used in initial media reports on her death.
Ava Le'Ray Barrin, 17, was shot and killed in Athens, Georgia on June 25 during an altercation in an apartment parking lot. In an online obituary, friends remembered Barrin as a "social butterfly" and an "amazing girl" who "loved to make people laugh."
Ebony Morgan, 28, was shot multiple times in Lynchburg, Virginia, in the early morning of July 2. Morgan was transferred to a local hospital where she succumbed to her injuries. Authorities have named Kenneth Allen Kelly Jr. as a person of interest in the case. Â
TeeTee Dangerfield, 32, a Black transgender woman, was shot and killed on July 31 in Atlanta, Georgia. According to the Georgia Voice, Dangerfield âwas found with multiple gunshot wounds outside of her vehicle at the South Hampton Estates apartment complex."
Jaylow McGlory**, 29, a Black transgender woman, was shot and killed in Alexandria, Louisiana on August 4. According to media reports, a 20-year-old man was later charged with her murder.Â
Gwynevere River Song, 26, was shot and killed in Waxahachie, Texas, on August 12. According to their Facebook profile, they identified as âfemandrogyneâ and a member of the bisexual community.
Kiwi Herring, 30, was killed during an altercation with police on August 22 during an altercation with her neighbor. Relatives told Huffpost the neighbor was transphobic and that excessive force by police led to her death.
Kashmire Nazier Redd, 28, was fatally stabbed by his partner on September 5. A friend wrote on Facebook â[Kashmire] loved hard and just wanted to be loved and [accepted].â
Derricka Banner, 26, was found shot to death in Charlotte, North Carolina on September 12. Friends describe Banner as a "playful spirit" and "go-getter" who enjoyed life.
Scout Schultz, 21, was shot and killed by Georgia Tech campus police on September 16. The GT Progressive Student Alliance, a progressive student advocacy group on campus, called Schultz an âincredible, inspirational member of our community and a constant fighter for human rights.â
Ally Steinfeld, 17, was stabbed to death in Missouri in early September. On April 3, 2018, the Texas County prosecutor charged Andrew Vrba, 18, with first-degree murder. Two other women, Briana Calderas, 24, and Isis Schauer, 18, were also charged with Steinfeld's murder. Steinfeldâs family said Ally âsometimesâ identified as female on social media.Â
Stephanie Montez, 47, was brutally murdered near Robstown, Texas. Montezâs longtime friend, Brittany Ramirez, described her as âone of the sweetest people you'll ever meet."Â
Candace Towns, 30, a transgender woman who was found shot to death in Georgia. Town's friend, Malaysa Monroe, remembers Townsâ generosity. âIf I needed anything she would give it to me. She would give me the clothes off her back,â Monroe said.
Brooklyn BreYanna Stevenson, 31, a Black transgender woman who was found murdered in a motel room in Oklahoma City on November 27. Family describe Stevenson as "an amazing daughter, sister and friend with a giving and loving heart."
Brandi Seals, 26, a Black transgender woman who was found shot to death in a Houston neighborhood on December 13. Her family described her as a âloving personâ and a âbeautiful person.âÂ
Rhiannon Layendecker, 51, was shot and killed by her wife, Jessica Winkler, after a domestic dispute in their home on December 16 in Englewood, Florida. Both women are transgender. According to neighbors, Layendecker was âfun,â âloving,â and someone who âwould do anything for you.â
These are all in the past 3 years. But you're probably right, you seem like you got it figured out.
And, as you can surely read, in vast majority of those cases, no correlation between their gender identity and the crime was found.
Surely, trans people are still people just like all of us, and are defined by their personalities and actions, not just a gender identity, and the motives behind those murders might be just about anything.
"I attacked this trans person because of the idea of trapping" is a literal legal defense. Are you serious?
Btw mobile doesn't show the full comment chain, make sure you check I don't want you to miss it! :) I replied to my own comments with the rest because there was too much trans murder to fit within the character limit.
"I attacked this trans person because of the idea of trapping" is a literal legal defense. Are you serious?
And what does a legal defense have to do with anything? Yeah it's idiotic that such defense works, but it doesn't prove motives of said murders. Lawyers will use the best possible defense to get their defendants lowest possible sentences, if "I got trapped" works so good as a defense, they'll use it.
I still don't see any way this is linked as a motive for said murders.
Okay so you're saying... People happen to murder trans people, at a rate disproportionately higher than cis people, in a society where we see plenty of rhetoric like "die tr**ny" and plenty of men admit to encouraging their friends to assault trans people they've been attracted to to redeem their heterosexuality, but there is no way to know it came from a place of hate and rather the perpetrators happened to have other motivations in enough of the cases to be statistically significant, even when in court they often say it's because the victim is trans and they are afraid of trapping, because this shouldn't be considered because it's just a legal defense.
in a society where we see plenty of rhetoric like "die tr**ny" and plenty of men admit to encouraging their friends to assault trans people they've been attracted to to redeem their heterosexuality
Apart from these statements being anecdotal, you didn't prove how they link to real life violence. I repeat, nobody's going to ruin his life by going to prison by murdering a trans person because they read the word "trap" on the internet (nice goalpost moving BTW since I said trap and you brought die tranny or you're a fag if you fuck a tranny into this).
when in court they often say it's because the victim is trans and they are afraid of trapping, because this shouldn't be considered because it's just a legal defense.
So are self defense, temporary insanity, diminished responsibility and others. I guess we better rule out any other motives since most homicides happen in self defense or because the defendant could not think clearly!
Yeah I figured you'd link that, I didn't think bringing up the race thing was going to be necessary but god people just don't research these subjects at all. When people talk about trans murder rates they are talking about trans PoC. The study you linked mentioned the numbers are not inflated for white transgender people, and then literally goes on to say in the same paragraph that the numbers are higher for non white trans people. Additionally, the rates have increased since the 2010-2014 and 2015 timespans, respectively.
As to the rest, wait what are you even arguing? I wasn't trying to move anything. I thought you were asserting that perpetuating the idea that trans women intend to trick men does not link to and isn't used to justify increased violence towards trans women, and that you're not sure if that violence even occurs? I was arguing that, yes violence to trans women happens, and yes, that idea is used to justify it.
Whether or not you can prove that the use of the word "trap" contributes to the perpetuation of that idea and therefore the violence is a whole other conversation. If your whole thing here is just about that, I'm not the one to talk to about that word as I don't really mind it or care. But the majority of trans people I know find it pretty offensive so I don't use it because it's really quite easy to not use a word.
Right, the murders are of trans women of color and they are often related to other things, like addiction and sex work. But, a lot of the same people who are screaming about words causing them violence support sex work. Forgive me if I don't listen to them when they haul out the carcasses of dead sex workers when it's convenient for them to shut down a word.
I don't think anyone supports the murder of sex workers, and to imply that violence against trans sex workers is purely an occupational hazard and has nothing to do with their trans status is a streeeeeetch. I do agree that if the two were totally unrelated it would be p shitty to appropriate that, but I don't think that's the case. Either way, like I said, I have no stake in the fight over "trap," leave me out of that. My only problem was someone saying bUt ArE tRaNs WoMeN eVeN kIlLeD tHo?
You would have to compare the murder rate of trans-POC sex workers to female POC sex workers to see. I wasn't aware someone didn't understand that trans women can get murdered.
Yeah I figured you'd link that, I didn't think bringing up the race thing was going to be necessary but god people just don't research these subjects at all. When people talk about trans murder rates they are talking about trans PoC.
So what if they're higher for non-whites? That's an entirely different issue (racism, trans acceptance in various communities).
As to the rest, wait what are you even arguing?
This picture was reposted here and someone on the original thread on Anime sent a link to this article as an evidence of the term trap being problematic. I find that ironic, because in the article the trans woman DID have sex with men without disclosing she is trans, so that was hardly a refutation to trans women "trapping" men is something that doesn't happen as the picture suggests.
As for the rest... I don't think the motive behind the trans homicides is men randomly killing trans women and men because of the idea of getting trapped. Sure, some of those homicides are hate crimes, some happen after men have sex with trans women and find out they were trans later, but plenty are motivated by other, more common motives.
Trapping may be used as a defense in court, but do you honestly believe there are many lunatics running around killing trans people just to make sure they themselves or others don't get trapped, to a point where everytime someone uses the word "trap" on the internet you have some smartass coming in, telling you to never utter it because the word literally gets people killed?
I believe there are enough to matter. I believe there is a culture among a minority of men, likely men that you don't associate with, that encourages them to kill trans women for the crime of deceiving them and assaulting their sexuality, not as a direct defense against being trapped, but more of a way to discourage the crime of being trans. Also the aforementioned revenge assault thing. You think a passing trans woman is cute and tell your friend. Your friends knows she's trans and all of them make fun of you cause you're being "gay." Now to prove you're a man you have to go hurt that trans woman. That's the scenario. That's what happens. I'm aware that your friends do t so this. Other people do.
Agaaaaain, I don't care about the word trap. I have no way of knowing if that word contributes to this happening. Probably doesn't. I have no stake in whether or not u use it
The tranny war on language continues. Taking away anime traps is a step to far. For a group who claims to be so poor all the time thereâs a lot of gilded virtuous trans posts. Really makes you think đ€ Send those dollars to a trans charity not spez lmao
when I hang out in trans Reddit everyone agrees that it is.
Trans reddit is a well that has long been poisoned by commies and aggresively confused teenagers so I don't know why anyone should give a flying fuck over what they have to say.
Show me a late stage MtF irl and I'll listen to their opinions, but no information gained from reddit "communities" is worth a shit.
If you have the time and patience to write long boring essays on why saying some weebshit word results in violence then you really do deserve all that violence.
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1 SnapshillBot 2019-05-19
You are seemingly intelligent enough to think of a witty Reddit name and even put a little clever flair next to it, yet this escapes you? Sweaty, go to an evening class or something....
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1 lyridsreign 2019-05-19
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1 lyridsreign 2019-05-19
shitty smug meme
1 leva549 2019-05-19
How many times has that actually happened?
1 DasRoteOrgan 2019-05-19
You never sucked a dick just to realize afterwards that he had a dick?
Happens all the time.
1 Mayos_side 2019-05-19
Ahem, she
1 DasRoteOrgan 2019-05-19
Yeah, and this is the actual problem:
Imagine you suck a dudes dick and it is totally not gay because he is a woman. You know. Sometimes you just want to suck dick, but not admit that you are gay. You get all hyped up and are horny as fuck and about to come because you have this hot dudes dick in your mouth. And then he tells you he is a SHE. Orgasm fucking ruined!!! If I want to fuck a woman without being gay, I could just fuck gussie. But sometimes I want a man (not gay!) and suddenly "I am a woman, btw!". ...yeah! I know! This is why it is not gay! This is what we tell the others AFTER I blowed you.
Anybody can relate?
1 Mayos_side 2019-05-19
It's called rape by deception and it's more common than the media will have you believe.
1 WiggityWatchinNews 2019-05-19
True and I have killed every one of em afterwards. Maybe there is something to this
1 D1zz1 2019-05-19
Um...wow yeah regardless of the discussions on that word's use suggesting that trans panic murders happen negligibly often is preeeetty yucky.
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2019-05-19
Stop tricking men into believing you have a vagina and the daily murders can finally end.
1 D1zz1 2019-05-19
Wow.
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2019-05-19
A. Yes, I vehemently agree with the death penalty for rape because i am a staunch supporter of feminism.
B. Lmao you literally think trannies are being hunted in the streets because so many of them cant find someone to fuck them without tricking them.
1 D1zz1 2019-05-19
Again, no, trans people do not trick men. Trans people are hurt/killed, yes. Many perpetrators who hurt/kill trans people justify it by claiming they were tricked or were going to be tricked. Perpetuating the myth that trans people trick men also feeds into the potential for violence from people with such warped ideas of sexuality that they need to seek revenge on trans people they find attractive.
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2019-05-19
I'm not interested in your justifications and rape apologia. Luring people into a sexual encounter by misleading them about your sex is beyond heinous and deserves the highest capital punishment.
1 D1zz1 2019-05-19
I'm literally repeatedly explaining to you that trans people do not do that.
It is not a thing that occurs. It doesn't happen.
Idk how much more simply I can state this, I assume at this point you're just trolling.
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2019-05-19
Why do you lie? You lie about not raping people and you are lying now.
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a50873/transgender-man-sex-with-girlfriend-crime/
1 D1zz1 2019-05-19
Obviously you can find individual examples of all kinds of things. Humans do crazy shit. But this doesn't mean it's a consistent thing that trans people do, even uncommonly, which is how it's portrayed and the problem. Just like an example of a male school shooter doesn't mean that all men should be branded as likely school shooters.
1 Detective_Fallacy 2019-05-19
Sweaty, trans panic can only happen if you actually pass at first sight, so I wouldn't worry too much about it if I were you.
1 D1zz1 2019-05-19
I don't think you understand how sweaty works. Unless you meant for your comment to be sarcastic?
1 Woolgun 2019-05-19
Someone in that thread linked an article with ONE example.
I'm just wondering, if trap is a slur that leads to violence because it reinforces the idea that trans people trap others into having sex with them and then get murdered when the oblivious idiots find out... but your only evidence of trans people getting murdered is after they fucked someone and didn't disclose who they are prior to that... doesn't that make that term accurate? đ€
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2019-05-19
Its just called rape buddy.
1 D1zz1 2019-05-19
Violence to trans women does not happen only during that scenario. Violence to trans women happens in many scenarios, and the idea of that scenario happening alone is used to justify it.
1 Woolgun 2019-05-19
I'm gonna need some receipts for that.
Until then, I'm gonna assume that in most western countries, this is really rare because you have to be mentally unstable to assault someone who is not associated with you in any way or interacting with you based on them being trans. Sure, may happen, but is it really a big scale problem? đ€
1 D1zz1 2019-05-19
Dana Martin, 31, a Black transgender woman, was fatally shot in Montgomery, Alabama, on January 6. Reports stated that she was found in a roadside ditch in her vehicle and pronounced dead at the scene. Daroneshia Duncan-Boyd, an Alabama-based trans advocate, said that âshe was a person that was loved by many.â
Ashanti Carmon, 27, a Black transgender woman, was fatally shot in Prince George's County, Maryland, on March 30. Few details are yet known about the crime, and the investigation is ongoing. âUntil I leave this Earth, Iâm going to continue on loving her in my heart, body, and soul,â said Philip Williams, Carmonâs fiancĂ©. âShe did not deserve to leave this Earth so early, especially in the way that she went out.
Claire Legato, 21, a Black transgender woman, was fatally shot in Cleveland on April 15. Local media reportsthat Legato was shot in the head after an argument broke out between her mother and the suspect. She was taken to a nearby hospital and died from her injuries on May 14. Friends and family took to social media to mourn Legatoâs death, remembering her as someone who was âfull of life.â
Christa Leigh Steele-Knudslien, 42, was found dead in her home on January 5 in North Adams, Massachusetts. Steele-Knudslien organized and produced the Miss Trans New England and other pageants, and was loved and known by many in both the local and national trans community.
Viccky Gutierrez, 33, a transgender woman from Honduras was stabbed and had her body set ablaze inside her Los Angeles home on January 10. Friends described her as âa young trans Latina immigrant woman whose warm smile would give anyone comfort.âÂ
Celine Walker, 36, was fatally shot in a hotel room on on February 4 in Jacksonville, Florida. It was not known for several days that Walker was trans because local police claimed to not refer to victims as transgender. Investigators are still looking for a suspect in her death.
Tonya Harvey, 35, was fatally shot on February 6 in Buffalo, New York. A friend of Harveyâs expressed her condolences on Facebook, writing: âI knew her since I started transitioning, she was so sweet and loving.â Police have confirmed they are looking into the incident as a possible hate crime.Â
Zakaria Fry, 28, went missing in New Mexico in mid-January. Her body was later found 40 miles outside of Albuquerque on February 19. Albuquerque Police arrested and charged Charles Spiess with two open counts of murder. Fry's loved ones shared condolences on Facebook with one friend saying: "You were my older sister. You took care of me and loved me like family. Iâll forever love you. Iâm sorry.â
Phylicia Mitchell, 45, was shot and killed outside her home on February 23 in Cleveland, Ohio. On April 10, Cleveland.com reported that a warrant has been issued for the arrest of Gary Sanders. Sanders was charged with aggravated murder in Mitchell's death. Her longtime partner, Shane Mitchell, described her as "funny and kind" and that "everyone loved her."
Amia Tyrae Berryman, 28, was fatally shot at a local motel on March 26 in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Few details are known about the crime, and police report they have no suspects or persons of interest at this time.
Sasha Wall, 29, a transgender woman of color, was fatally shot on April 1 in Chesterfield County, South Carolina. The FBI is assisting with local investigators, and are analyzing phone records and collecting DNA evidence. Donovan Dunlap, a friend of Wallâs, expressed condolences on Facebook, writing, âI will miss you my beautiful sister. I cannot sleep, I hope they find who did this.âÂ
Karla Patricia Flores-PavĂłn, 26, was found choked to death in her apartment in Dallas, Texas, on May 9. Dallas Police arrested 24-year-old Jimmy Eugene Johnson III on May 17, charging him with Flores-PavĂłnâs murder. "It hurts a lot, you were a good-hearted person. Sister, fly high. We will remember you with love. Your beautiful smile will stay with us,â a friend posted on her Facebook page.
Nino Fortson, 36, was fataly shot in Atlanta on May 13. City police were nearby executing a traffic stop and rushed to the scene, but Forston later died at the hospital, said transgender advocate Monica Roberts.
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Gigi Pierce, 28, was fatally shot on May 21 in Portland, Oregon. When officers arrived they tried to administer aid, but Pierce died at the scene. Police investigators say they believe that Pierce was shot during an altercation with Sophia Adler, who has been charged with Pierceâs murder, according to KGW-TV.
Roxana HernĂĄndez, 33, âpassed away on May 25 while in the custody of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) after fleeing violence and discrimination in Honduras. After an autopsy report strongly indicated HernĂĄndez was beaten in ICE custody before her death, the agency is falsely claiming its press release announcing her death constitutes its report and is disputing the accuracy of eyewitness accounts of abuse from detainees held with her in custody prior to her death.
Antash'a English, 38, was fatally injured in drive-by shooting in Jacksonville, Florida on June 1. On her Facebook page, English described herself as an âindependentâ transgender woman who âthrives on being the best personâ she can be. The Jacksonville Sheriffâs Office has declared an active murder investigation and asks anyone with information to contact their office.
Diamond Stephens, 39, was found shot to death on June 18 in Meridian, Mississippi. In interviews with a local television station, family members said that Stephens had an âincredible personality.â As is too often the case in the reporting of anti-transgender violence, Stephens was originally misgendered in local police statements and media reports, which delayed our awareness of this deadly incident.
Cathalina Christina James, 24, was fatally shot in Jacksonville, Florida, on June 24. In an interview with First Coast News, Jamesâ mother described her daughter as having a âbig and boldâ personality, saying she loved to dance and travel. James is the third transgender woman murdered and the fourth shot in the Florida city this year.
Keisha Wells, 54, was found dead with a gunshot wound to her abdomen in the parking lot of an apartment complex on June 24, according to Cleveland.com. A longtime friend of Wells described her as âthe nicest person everâ but also a âtough cookie.â
Sasha Garden, 27, was found dead with signs of trauma in Orlando, Florida, early July 19. Originally from Wisconsin, Garden is remembered by loved ones as a âfirecrackerâ who âdidnât hold anything back.â Friend and local transgender activist Mulan Montrese Williams recalls that Garden was a talented and aspiring hair stylist and had been saving money to fund her transition.
Vontashia Bell, 18, was fatally shot on August 30 in a neighborhood of Shreveport, Lousiana. The Louisiana Trans Advocates organization released a statement condemning the shooting and calling on the cityâs leaders to help curb the violence against the trans community.
Dejanay Stanton, 24, was found with a fatal gunshot wound to the head on August 30, according to media reports. After an autopsy, her death was ruled a homicideand the investigation is ongoing. âEvery time you saw her she had a smile on her face," said LaSaia Wade, executive director of Brave Space Alliance. âShe was just trying to live her best life as a young girl.â
Shantee Tucker, 30, was found with a fatal gunshot wound in the back in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, on Sept. 5. Friends and family honored her life and mourned her death on Facebook, recalling that she was like âanother big sisterâ to them and remembering her âbeautiful spirit and fun aura.â
Londonn Moore, 20, was found dead of multiple gunshot wounds in a remote area of North Port, Florida on Sept. 8. Moore is remembered by her family and other loved ones, who described her as âhilariousâ and someone who âmade everyone laugh all the time.â
Nikki Enriquez, 28, was one of four women killed in Sept. in what local officials describe as a âserial killing spreeâ allegedly carried out by an intel supervisor for the U.S. Border Patrol. Enriquez, who also went by the name Janelle, is survived by numerous loved ones that were âsad and in disbeliefâ at her death. Cousin Veronica Castillo described her as a âvery outgoingâ person who loved to party and was beloved by the local LGBTQ community.
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Ciara Minaj Carter Frazier, 31, was fatally stabbed and her body left behind an abandoned building by a man with whom she was arguing on October 3 in Chicago. As reported in the Sun Times, Chicago police declared Frazierâs death a homicide after appearing on the scene. She is remembered by friends and loved ones, who said that she will âalways be missed.â
Regina Denise Brown, 53, a trans woman of color, was found dead in her burning home in South Carolina on October 7. Authorities charged Jenkins with murder in November after he confessed to killing Brown during a physical altercation. Brown was described as a âgreat lady with a big heartâ to PinkNews.Â
Tydi Dansbury, 37, a Black transgender woman, was fatally shot in Baltimore on November 26. Few details are known about the circumstances of her death, and the Baltimore Police Department is urging anyone with information to come forward.
Keanna Mattel, 35, a Black transgender woman, was fatally shot in Detroit, Michigan on December 7. In 2015, Mattel, who also went by the name Kelly Stough, spoke against anti-trans violence epidemic, noting that âpolice are unaware with our struggle so they have no sympathy for us.â Friends remember Mattel as âa sweetheart and beautiful character.â
Mesha Caldwell, 41, a black transgender woman from Canton, Mississippi, was found shot to death the evening of January 4. The murder is still under investigation and no suspects have been arrested.
Sean Hake, 23, a transgender man in Sharon, Pennsylvania, died after he was shot by police responding to a 911 call from his mother. A friend told WKBN that Sean "had a genuinely good heart and he had struggled with his problems."
Jamie Lee Wounded Arrow, 28, an American Indian woman who identified as transgender and two-spirit, was found dead in her apartment in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. A suspect, 25-year-old Joshua Rayvon LeClaire, has been arrested and charged with murder and manslaughter in connection with her death.
JoJo Striker, 23, a transgender woman, was found killed in Toledo, Ohio, on February 8. Strikerâs mother, Shanda Striker, described her as âfunny and entertainingâ and said her family loved her deeply.Â
Tiara Richmond, also known as Keke Collier, 24, was fatally shot in Chicago on the morning of February 21. A transgender woman of color, she was found dead on the same street as two other transgender women that were killed in 2012.Â
Chyna Gibson, 31, a Black transgender woman, was shot and killed in New Orleans on February 25. Chyna was a much-loved performer in the ballroom community who was visiting friends and family in New Orleans at the time of her death.Â
Ciara McElveen, 26, a transgender woman of color, was stabbed to death in New Orleans on February 27. McElveen did outreach for the homeless community. As of February 28, 2017, HRC has tracked at least nine murders of transgender people in Louisiana since 2013.
Jaquarrius Holland, 18, was shot to death in Monroe, Louisiana, on February 19. One friend, Chesna Littleberry, told Mic that Holland was âlike a younger sisterâ and had helped her learn to accept herself.
Alphonza Watson, 38, was shot and killed in Baltimore, Maryland, on March 22. Watsonâs mother said her daughter was âthe sunshine of our family,â a âcaring, passionateâ person who loved cooking and gardening.
Chay Reed, 28, a transgender woman of color, was shot and killed on April 21 in Miami. Reedâs longtime friend told Mic about their longtime friendship -- describing her as someone who was full of life and beloved by many.
Kenneth Bostick, 59, was found with severe injuries on a Manhattan sidewalk, he later died of his injuries. Few details about Bostickâs life have been reported, he is believed to have been homeless at the time he was attacked.*
Sherrell Faulkner, 46, a transgender woman of color died on May 16, of injuries sustained during an attack on November 30, 2016 in Charlotte, North Carolina. Police are treating the assault as a homicide. No arrests have been made at this point.
Kenne McFadden, 27, was found in the San Antonio River on April 9. Police believe she was pushed into the river, which runs through downtown San Antonio. A high-school friend of McFadden described her to local mediaas assertive, charismatic and lovable. On January 25, 2018, a 19-year-old man was charged with her murder.
Kendra Marie Adams, 28, was found in a building that was under construction and had burns on her body on June 13. Police have charged Michael Davis, 45, with Adamsâ murder. Adams also went by Josie Berrios, the name used in initial media reports on her death.
Ava Le'Ray Barrin, 17, was shot and killed in Athens, Georgia on June 25 during an altercation in an apartment parking lot. In an online obituary, friends remembered Barrin as a "social butterfly" and an "amazing girl" who "loved to make people laugh."
Ebony Morgan, 28, was shot multiple times in Lynchburg, Virginia, in the early morning of July 2. Morgan was transferred to a local hospital where she succumbed to her injuries. Authorities have named Kenneth Allen Kelly Jr. as a person of interest in the case. Â
TeeTee Dangerfield, 32, a Black transgender woman, was shot and killed on July 31 in Atlanta, Georgia. According to the Georgia Voice, Dangerfield âwas found with multiple gunshot wounds outside of her vehicle at the South Hampton Estates apartment complex."
Jaylow McGlory**, 29, a Black transgender woman, was shot and killed in Alexandria, Louisiana on August 4. According to media reports, a 20-year-old man was later charged with her murder.Â
Gwynevere River Song, 26, was shot and killed in Waxahachie, Texas, on August 12. According to their Facebook profile, they identified as âfemandrogyneâ and a member of the bisexual community.
Kiwi Herring, 30, was killed during an altercation with police on August 22 during an altercation with her neighbor. Relatives told Huffpost the neighbor was transphobic and that excessive force by police led to her death.
Kashmire Nazier Redd, 28, was fatally stabbed by his partner on September 5. A friend wrote on Facebook â[Kashmire] loved hard and just wanted to be loved and [accepted].â
Derricka Banner, 26, was found shot to death in Charlotte, North Carolina on September 12. Friends describe Banner as a "playful spirit" and "go-getter" who enjoyed life.
Scout Schultz, 21, was shot and killed by Georgia Tech campus police on September 16. The GT Progressive Student Alliance, a progressive student advocacy group on campus, called Schultz an âincredible, inspirational member of our community and a constant fighter for human rights.â
Ally Steinfeld, 17, was stabbed to death in Missouri in early September. On April 3, 2018, the Texas County prosecutor charged Andrew Vrba, 18, with first-degree murder. Two other women, Briana Calderas, 24, and Isis Schauer, 18, were also charged with Steinfeld's murder. Steinfeldâs family said Ally âsometimesâ identified as female on social media.Â
Stephanie Montez, 47, was brutally murdered near Robstown, Texas. Montezâs longtime friend, Brittany Ramirez, described her as âone of the sweetest people you'll ever meet."Â
Candace Towns, 30, a transgender woman who was found shot to death in Georgia. Town's friend, Malaysa Monroe, remembers Townsâ generosity. âIf I needed anything she would give it to me. She would give me the clothes off her back,â Monroe said.
Brooklyn BreYanna Stevenson, 31, a Black transgender woman who was found murdered in a motel room in Oklahoma City on November 27. Family describe Stevenson as "an amazing daughter, sister and friend with a giving and loving heart."
Brandi Seals, 26, a Black transgender woman who was found shot to death in a Houston neighborhood on December 13. Her family described her as a âloving personâ and a âbeautiful person.âÂ
Rhiannon Layendecker, 51, was shot and killed by her wife, Jessica Winkler, after a domestic dispute in their home on December 16 in Englewood, Florida. Both women are transgender. According to neighbors, Layendecker was âfun,â âloving,â and someone who âwould do anything for you.â
These are all in the past 3 years. But you're probably right, you seem like you got it figured out.
1 Woolgun 2019-05-19
Wow, shit, you delivered.
And, as you can surely read, in vast majority of those cases, no correlation between their gender identity and the crime was found.
Surely, trans people are still people just like all of us, and are defined by their personalities and actions, not just a gender identity, and the motives behind those murders might be just about anything.
1 D1zz1 2019-05-19
Uh huh
1 Woolgun 2019-05-19
So you don't have any proof that the term trap or the idea of trapping has any effect on the safety of trans people?
1 D1zz1 2019-05-19
"I attacked this trans person because of the idea of trapping" is a literal legal defense. Are you serious?
Btw mobile doesn't show the full comment chain, make sure you check I don't want you to miss it! :) I replied to my own comments with the rest because there was too much trans murder to fit within the character limit.
1 Woolgun 2019-05-19
Yes, I saw the extra posts.
And what does a legal defense have to do with anything? Yeah it's idiotic that such defense works, but it doesn't prove motives of said murders. Lawyers will use the best possible defense to get their defendants lowest possible sentences, if "I got trapped" works so good as a defense, they'll use it.
I still don't see any way this is linked as a motive for said murders.
1 D1zz1 2019-05-19
Okay so you're saying... People happen to murder trans people, at a rate disproportionately higher than cis people, in a society where we see plenty of rhetoric like "die tr**ny" and plenty of men admit to encouraging their friends to assault trans people they've been attracted to to redeem their heterosexuality, but there is no way to know it came from a place of hate and rather the perpetrators happened to have other motivations in enough of the cases to be statistically significant, even when in court they often say it's because the victim is trans and they are afraid of trapping, because this shouldn't be considered because it's just a legal defense.
1 Woolgun 2019-05-19
Do they though?
https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2017.303878?journalCode=ajph
https://medium.com/athena-talks/trans-murder-rates-the-data-120b60b19cb4
Apart from these statements being anecdotal, you didn't prove how they link to real life violence. I repeat, nobody's going to ruin his life by going to prison by murdering a trans person because they read the word "trap" on the internet (nice goalpost moving BTW since I said trap and you brought die tranny or you're a fag if you fuck a tranny into this).
So are self defense, temporary insanity, diminished responsibility and others. I guess we better rule out any other motives since most homicides happen in self defense or because the defendant could not think clearly!
1 D1zz1 2019-05-19
Yeah I figured you'd link that, I didn't think bringing up the race thing was going to be necessary but god people just don't research these subjects at all. When people talk about trans murder rates they are talking about trans PoC. The study you linked mentioned the numbers are not inflated for white transgender people, and then literally goes on to say in the same paragraph that the numbers are higher for non white trans people. Additionally, the rates have increased since the 2010-2014 and 2015 timespans, respectively.
As to the rest, wait what are you even arguing? I wasn't trying to move anything. I thought you were asserting that perpetuating the idea that trans women intend to trick men does not link to and isn't used to justify increased violence towards trans women, and that you're not sure if that violence even occurs? I was arguing that, yes violence to trans women happens, and yes, that idea is used to justify it.
Whether or not you can prove that the use of the word "trap" contributes to the perpetuation of that idea and therefore the violence is a whole other conversation. If your whole thing here is just about that, I'm not the one to talk to about that word as I don't really mind it or care. But the majority of trans people I know find it pretty offensive so I don't use it because it's really quite easy to not use a word.
1 Protista_of_Peace 2019-05-19
Right, the murders are of trans women of color and they are often related to other things, like addiction and sex work. But, a lot of the same people who are screaming about words causing them violence support sex work. Forgive me if I don't listen to them when they haul out the carcasses of dead sex workers when it's convenient for them to shut down a word.
1 D1zz1 2019-05-19
I don't think anyone supports the murder of sex workers, and to imply that violence against trans sex workers is purely an occupational hazard and has nothing to do with their trans status is a streeeeeetch. I do agree that if the two were totally unrelated it would be p shitty to appropriate that, but I don't think that's the case. Either way, like I said, I have no stake in the fight over "trap," leave me out of that. My only problem was someone saying bUt ArE tRaNs WoMeN eVeN kIlLeD tHo?
1 Protista_of_Peace 2019-05-19
You would have to compare the murder rate of trans-POC sex workers to female POC sex workers to see. I wasn't aware someone didn't understand that trans women can get murdered.
1 Woolgun 2019-05-19
So what if they're higher for non-whites? That's an entirely different issue (racism, trans acceptance in various communities).
This picture was reposted here and someone on the original thread on Anime sent a link to this article as an evidence of the term trap being problematic. I find that ironic, because in the article the trans woman DID have sex with men without disclosing she is trans, so that was hardly a refutation to trans women "trapping" men is something that doesn't happen as the picture suggests.
As for the rest... I don't think the motive behind the trans homicides is men randomly killing trans women and men because of the idea of getting trapped. Sure, some of those homicides are hate crimes, some happen after men have sex with trans women and find out they were trans later, but plenty are motivated by other, more common motives.
Trapping may be used as a defense in court, but do you honestly believe there are many lunatics running around killing trans people just to make sure they themselves or others don't get trapped, to a point where everytime someone uses the word "trap" on the internet you have some smartass coming in, telling you to never utter it because the word literally gets people killed?
1 D1zz1 2019-05-19
I believe there are enough to matter. I believe there is a culture among a minority of men, likely men that you don't associate with, that encourages them to kill trans women for the crime of deceiving them and assaulting their sexuality, not as a direct defense against being trapped, but more of a way to discourage the crime of being trans. Also the aforementioned revenge assault thing. You think a passing trans woman is cute and tell your friend. Your friends knows she's trans and all of them make fun of you cause you're being "gay." Now to prove you're a man you have to go hurt that trans woman. That's the scenario. That's what happens. I'm aware that your friends do t so this. Other people do.
Agaaaaain, I don't care about the word trap. I have no way of knowing if that word contributes to this happening. Probably doesn't. I have no stake in whether or not u use it
1 leva549 2019-05-19
And one that never works. by comparison the Chewbacca defense is a literal legal defense that sometimes works.
1 ElonMuskarr 2019-05-19
why is long post bot MIA
1 5odastream 2019-05-19
Trannies are more likely to kill themselves than to actually pass well enough to be even good enough to âtrapâ anyone
1 Tzar-Romulus 2019-05-19
Also a lot of poor trannies are prostitutes which is a dangerous job regardless of how you identify.
1 AlecFagHillPitas 2019-05-19
Thatâs not pretty sex positive sweaty
1 Infidel6 2019-05-19
"Sex workers are real workers."
"Wait, I'd have to pay income tax?"
Slinks back into the shadows
1 SlowlyDying- 2019-05-19
The tranny war on language continues. Taking away anime traps is a step to far. For a group who claims to be so poor all the time thereâs a lot of gilded virtuous trans posts. Really makes you think đ€ Send those dollars to a trans charity not spez lmao
1 CharmingLeadership 2019-05-19
>Trap is a slur used to justify violence against transwomen.
>No it's fucking not.
>What when I hang out in trans Reddit everyone agrees that it is.
Ladies and gentlemen, I present you: Discourse in 2019.
1 lyridsreign 2019-05-19
My internet echo chamber said so. So it must be true!
1 d4ddyd54m4 2019-05-19
We should have ended it all in 2000. The only thing of value I would have missed was Yeâs discography
1 5odastream 2019-05-19
That shit cray
1 AlecFagHillPitas 2019-05-19
Kanyeâs discography is gonna help me get through the race war.
1 lawlzposting 2019-05-19
Ye ks the single most overrated artist to ever draw breath, CMV.
1 d4ddyd54m4 2019-05-19
Implying I care about the views of someone who idolizes lawlz
1 Infidel6 2019-05-19
Trans reddit is a well that has long been poisoned by commies and aggresively confused teenagers so I don't know why anyone should give a flying fuck over what they have to say.
Show me a late stage MtF irl and I'll listen to their opinions, but no information gained from reddit "communities" is worth a shit.
1 headasplodes 2019-05-19
You mean a corpse?
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1 Logan_Pauler 2019-05-19
If you have the time and patience to write long boring essays on why saying some weebshit word results in violence then you really do deserve all that violence.
1 HulkHoganUnderground 2019-05-19
Trap can't be a slur for transwomen as it implies some of them pass.
1 TrapNekoLoli 2019-05-19
The mods here dođ
1 Tzar-Romulus 2019-05-19
Gay dudes dressed as women pass better than trannies. đ€
1 Infidel6 2019-05-19
That's because gay dudes actually respect the pagentry of ot all.
1 texanapocalypse33 2019-05-19
He posted on roastme 2 years ago lol https://www.reddit.com/r/RoastMe/comments/6c41dq/roast_me_as_well
Idk if it could ever be considered passable...
1 peacefulCAfugee 2019-05-19
https://www.reddit.com/r/RoastMe/comments/6c418x/roast_me/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
https://www.reddit.com/r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns/comments/ac0fv8/not_out_but_been_painting_my_nails_for_awhile_now/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
big yikes
1 Sweaty_Camera 2019-05-19
That guy isn't trapping anyone with a BAC lower than 120 proof.
1 Mamalgam 2019-05-19
What's the woke take on the rights of moids who're into trannies? Does a penis fetish make you more oppressed than just being a regular fag? đ€
1 lyridsreign 2019-05-19
You're not allowed to sexualize them for being trans but you're a bigot if you don't date them
1 Mamalgam 2019-05-19
ur gay, get the fuck outta my face
1 leva549 2019-05-19
You have to suck the girldick, but if you like it you are gross and problematic.
1 lyridsreign 2019-05-19
No you can like it. but if you're dating and you find out that they're trans, it's problematic if you break up with them
1 ryandanegayin 2019-05-19
May Allah forgive the weebs.
1 the_blood_of_heroes 2019-05-19
I hope he doesn't.
1 leva549 2019-05-19
Do you get 72 succubi if you go to hell?