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great post!

Wasn't u/trappysaruh a mod recently?

Dude needs to just get some Tin T2's I picked up a pair for 25 bucks online, they sound awesome and don't cost an arm an a leg.

How comes your comment is greyed out?

idk

Crazy stuff

Artisanal grade drama posting right here 😂😂😂

My loins ache for the day double-blind hifi studies become possible.

But feed it eminem, and his voice and snares are annoying if not painful.

This I can identify with. The pen scratch on Stan literally hurts on my setup.

Audiophiles are like foodies or winos. They have no expertise at all, but love to try the nicest and fanciest stuff and then gloatingly tell everyone around them that their food/wine/sound quality is shit.

These people all need Jesus

My friends 1000$ headphones sound the same as my 200$ senheissers lmao

Your $200 senheisers sound worse than my $50 creative aurvana live!, I guarantee this.

Your $50 creative shitcans sound worse than $15 xiaomis. I guarantee this.

And you are wrong.

Why haven't you cooked up any ccolonization of the Americas was the greatest wealth distribution in history" tier bait recently?

☺️

I, too, draw the line once the conversation veers into pro-xiaomi territory. It's just offensive at that point.

I actually bought the Tin T2 pros off of some recommendations from redditors and honestly I hated them and had to return them. The treble was skullpiercing

Your $8 Sony MH755 sounds worse than my $1.50 cup tied to shoe string

Your chinacrap sounds worse than my 2 solo cups attached to a string.

Your 20 cent homemade earphones sound like garbage compared to my free God given headphones, my ears.

Nothing sounds worse than everyone irl.

Yeah, diminishing returns are very real. Once you reach the $100 mark most people are lying when they tell you they can tell the difference.

$100

ok earlet

If you can tell the difference then I know you don't go to shows, so I feel bad for you but also look down my nose at you.

Imagine buying headphones for more than 100 they aren't Beats or AirPods

My B&Os look better than Beats or AirPods.

Imagine imaginin trying to imagine imagination

Lmao imagine buying beats for any reason other than the fact that beats were cool 5 years ago 😂😂😂

Beats were never "cool".

Imagine actually taking a comment saying only buy Beats on an audiophile thread seriously

that aren't Beats

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First, it depends what kind of setup you were listening to both of them on, and second just because they are $1000 doesn't mean people buy them because they are BETTER than $200 sennheissers. More often than not, you spend a different amount for a different type of sound. I doubt they sound the same, not saying his are "better" but I'm sure they sound different. Also let's not forget Sennheisser makes the most expensive headphones on the planet (look up the orpheus) and their flagship and most revered set the HD800's are over $1000 new.

Holy fuck you audiophile nerd, pretty much no shit

To me that doesnt have flaacs and doesnt care they legit sound the same. Maybe the 1000$ has better bass but the few songs i compared em too sounded the same

Now if i worked in the audio industry i could maybe see a difference but for a joe schmo like me they are fine in the 200$ range

Woah relax, was just trying to teach you something. And no, without a doubt I can gaurantee you do both those headphones sound the same or even similar. Which are the two? I've probably heard them.

Lol U mad nerd

Very mad

And by the way, every Joe schmoe who's ever compared my headphones can find the difference between them immediately, even my parents with diminished hearing, I suggest going to an ENT if every headphone you listen to sounds the same. And I don't even understand the sentence "to me that doesn't have flacs and they sound the same". What does that even mean, I can't decipher it.

This is bait lol

Cope

What does that even mean, I'm not hip with the young kids lingo these days I guess.

Audophiles are fucking stupid. You can get the best possible sound for $100-$300. Anything beyond that level of quality is virtually imperceptible unless you convince yourself you're hearing shit that's not actually present. I bet my $100 studio monitors wipe the floor with this kid's $600 carbon-fiber semen-coated-cable nano-magnet nonsense.

Still though, lmao @ the reviewer for ever using Rhianna. Rhianna and, in fact, all pop artists, should just die.

I'm gonna go with "based" for your first paragraph and then "based" on your second

I mean... are you sure? The best possible for just $300?

It's not exclusively about 'detail', either. People have preferences for different sounds, and different setups to achieve them - plenty of which you won't find for sub $300...

Those people are dumb lol gotem.

But yeah, even studio monitors with an audio interface/desk-amp + full acoustic treatment of an average-sized room isn't $300. More like $250. The only reason to spend more than $300 on your system is if you're using a PA system to play to a large crowd. My music making/general listening setup is probably worth $200 right now since I haven't treated my room yet, my DJing setup is worth close to/more than $1,000.

The best possible sound for 100-300? Ok let's not kid ourselves. There are plenty of diminishing returns once you get past about $1000 and then more often or not it's taste, but if you can find me a set of cans more detailed than HD800's for $1-300 I'd LOVE to hear what they are, I'll buy 2 of them.

What do you even mean "detailed"? Can you put that in technical terms?

Attack, transients and decay, 'resolve', dynamics, distortion, soundstage, imaging etc.

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Take even just something like dynamics, the difference between the loudest and quietest sounds in a track - like the physical sound of someone's fingers on the string of a guitar before it's plucked. That's a huge part of finding detail and making things sound real, and something that great headphones can deliver in a way completely unlike lesser ones.

Dynamics are about the only thing you mentioned that actually make even a lick of sense to talk about in this context, lol. Even then, you can hear small details very well in $100-$300 pairs of headphones. These aren't Skull Candies we're talking about. Virtually anything you're going to get out of a pair of headphones above $300 is going to be nothing more than a placebo. Not to mention it all depends on what's even in the mix. For most music, the only time you're going to hear different stuff with an extremely high-quality pair of headphones and even an average pair of headphones is when it's live recordings.

That is simply not the case. My HD800's I've had have much more detail than any other headphone I've tried under it. Hell I've had more expensive headphones sound less detailed. Again that doesn't make one better or worse, and you can definitely find detailed headphones under $500, but more often then not many of the higher end headphones will have more detail, and it's also dependent on the source material you use.

Sure, so resolution is probably a better term then detail. Just like a high resolution picture you can soon in on, in headphones with fantastic detail, small sounds you probably have not noticed will become much more apparent, like hearing the artists take a small breath in the microphone, as well as instruments sounding more lifelike and "true".

EQ can't make a driver do things it wasn't designed to do like retrieve a metric ton of detail or alter the soundstage, and 'DJing headphones' are extremely unlikely to have the technicalities to present music in the same way as a very high end pair of open backed headphones, or god forbid electrostats - the simple fact of being closed would inflect the sound with reflections from inside the earcup.

It is true, though, that speakers do have an innate advantage. Most of the time people go for headphones is for private and critical listening, though, because they effectively create a room for your head and limit the number of variables down to 'sources', rather than everything else.

Everyone always talks about "detail", what is detail? Can you put it in technical terms? Not to mention that there are open-backed headphones designed for DJing too, if that's your gripe.

DJ headphones, no matter how "flat responsed" the manufacturer may say, usually are very, well...not flat. Most of the time they will have a bloated muddy bass, and weak midranges. And he is using technical terms that are used by professionals.

Ah yes, professional sound engineers always talk about "detail" lmao.

And yeah, when you buy your fucking "DJ headphones" at Walmart of course they sound like shit.

I've been listening to and collecting higher end headphones for over 12 years, I have owned some of the very worst, and some of the very best with many in between. Please tell me more about how I have no idea what I'm talking about. You are the one who thinks EQ can make all headphones sound the same. You don't understand the technical terms that Xareh mentioned, and have no experience, so you attack the other person saying they have no idea.

Ah yes technical terms like "detail" lol. Good for you buddy, you've wasted a lot of money on headphones. I hope you're proud.

So, my first response to you was that resolution would be a better term vs detail, but you glossed over that. You are just playing semantics. And it isn't a waste, I use them every single day and get lots of pleasure out of my current rotation, so yes I am pretty proud of the collection I curated. Enjoy your "flat frequency response" DJ headphones, I'll remember that one haha

Oh yeah when was that? Pretty sure that was a different conversation.

Uhh I don't think so....

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Yeah so that is a different conversation and you're just coming back for no reason to try and defend your overpriced soup cans, lmao.

I literally replied directly to you....how dense can you be? And soup cans?? Is this your first reddit account by the way or did your other one have to be banned because of the edge? Just curious.

You're not Xareh dipshit lmao, talk about fucking dense whoa. Imagine following reddit rules too lmao what the fuck man.

https://gyazo.com/e418ad41bc1ec79e0acdaa40e0ed6f6f ?????

Yeah that was in response to our conversation. Then you came back hours later to go through the loop again when I replied to Xareh. Bruh.

I replied one hour later directly to you, since you have only been a redditor for 13 days I can see how it can be confusing and you couldn't tell I replied to you. Enjoy your stay!

This comment chain originated on Xareh, not sure what you're so confused about. We had our own comment chain over on the other over there.

My first post was about detail. You replied directly to me asking to use a technical term. I replied straight back to you, as well as Xareh. There, have a good day.

lmao moron https://i.imgur.com/JjOnZRL.png

...this is a bad troll, I give up.

You didn't get notified about that comment but still came back anyway

Watcha doin breh

He's not an audiophile, he's a feckin moron. He's an audiophile wannabe. Audiophiles listen to whatever music they like.

Real audiophiles don't call themselves audiophiles and don't spend $1,000 on headphones, because people with actual knowledge of the technical aspect of sound/music know that $1,000 headphones are marketing horse shit.

Audiophiles claim to love music so much but haven't gone to any shows because if they did, their hearing would no longer be able to tell $2000 headphones from $80 Sony's.

MDR7506 master race?

Earplugs you moron

Whoa! What are you doing bringing logic in here? C'mon man...

So tldr, that guy bought headphones(?) For 1000$ and they suck?

Oh, then its okay.

Looks like something I could buy for $10

Tbh, if people start actually buying $1000 earphones on the reg I'm going to go from neolib to socialist revolutionary because at that point bourgeois decadence has gone too far.

This is deep in fart sniffer territory, we are a ways off from it being mainstream to have no idea how to handle money.

we are a ways off from it being mainstream to have no idea how to handle money.

Great post, thanks for quoting out the important bits because there was a lot of shit to go through in there. Also the OP of the original CL2 thread was coping pretty hard too tbh.

Also the guy is a complete idiot. He could've easily just sold them and cut his losses, instead he spent MORE, all of that because he was too much of a pussy to admit he made a bad purchase, and even changed the music he listens to, to cope with all of it. Beautiful.

Imagine caring this much about music. This is some serious mayo shit.

Serial /r/news poster attempts to form a coherent opinion

Keep yourself safe friendo.

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This is the kind of cuckery that happens when you base your whole identity around the things you consume

i am sure this is how picasso felt when he died penniless on the streets

Picasso died a millionaire regarded by the vast majority of art critics as one of the most brilliant artists of the 20th century.

I honestly thought things like in-ear monitors were for people who are like professionally playing music, not some fat slob listening to the star wars or harry potter soundtrack for the 8000th time

I got a pair of IEMs and a blue tooth adapter for 45 total, much cheaper and they blow airpods etc out of the water.

I got sick of wearing cans when I

I got sick of wearing cans when I

Met Candlejack?

Realized they collect a ton of sweat and can start to stink and the better audio wasn't worth it.

euros with no air conditioning lmao

But I am a burger.

The CL2 is the best money I have ever spent, and I would buy this again a New York minute :)

TIL inanimate objects can give people Stockholm syndrome.

Imagine spending over a grand to listen to Tupac and Rihanna

This cunt should just admit they're trying to buy their way in to appearing deeper than they are and fuck off

So this guys pent $900 on ear buds and then went and spent another $350 on wires to try and make them sound better?
Fuck that dumb motherfucker. He deserves to listen to shit.

I get that there's a difference between a decent set of earbuds and the $8 skull candy ones at Walmart, but can they possibly be $890 better?

Holy shit.

picasso felt when he died penniless on the streets.

What in the world.

These people are crazy. Now I understand why those companies don't go out of business.

Training for a career in audio, this shit is gold. Very good drama post

People who believe in "burn in" periods for speakers/headphones are possibly more retarded than flat-earthers.

I am not an audio fag, but a dslr fag.

I have no idea if he is just a pretentious dick or actually right. In reviews about mid range dslrs or lenses, there is always noobs who are just too stupid to realize how gear works. Like they buy a wide aperture F1.2 lens and complain that they often get blurry images in their 1 star Amazon reviews.

Some people are just retarded.

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