I'm not even sure what your point is. Yeah I'd rather sleep with a dakimakura of my waifu Renge-chan than with some random 3D slut but that doesn't mean I'm desperate, it's the opposite, it implies that I have standards.
When you insist on asking people to call you a woman when you are 6'4" and have a beard. And also do all the shit on /r/ItsAFetish people start looking at the LGBT weird. Even other normal gay men and women distance themselves from LGBT because of it (including me).
Breastfeeding is freaky. Not the sucking bit. You're reading The Stranger, so odds are you've had a titty sucked at some point in your life. No, it's because when my baby attached to my breast, there was an incredible chemical cascade that ran through my entire body like lightning. Imagine the most electric thing a partner has ever done to you, then multiply it by 10. I could feel my brain rewiring, creating pathways that would permanently connect me to my child. (And yeah, I kind of got off on it. Don't judge.)
I moved out of my favorite apartment because it was on the pride parade route. After the second year of literally seeing people fuck in the middle of the street. Used needles everywhere. Me having to fight off people trying to feed my fucking dog booze, it was too much. The excuse I was told was “lol it celebrates a riot moron don’t tell u what to do or we will turn this bitch into one”
I prefer crazy drama to sad drama, and child abuse and neglect stories are sad drama. Look what happens to people who are abused or neglected as children. That's how you end up with Qanon followers, Chapos, Mormons, and LSC posters.
If I unironically believed that you agree with that when you made it clear that you don't in comment I replied to, I'm pretty sure it would be legal to execute me and I'm still here.
Mainstream LGBT has not really been in the hands of actual gay and lesbian people. It's been a corporate tool for a while now. Once the corporate Democrats accomplished federally-legislated gay marriage, they needed a new goalpost.
Lol you really think gay marriage is going to lead to 8 year old drag queens dancing for money at bars or men with beards going to the bathroom with your daughter? Bigot.
I don't think gay marriage is responsible for that at all. I think morons who don't know when to stop or where to draw a line because they make politics their full identity are.
Also I know this was bait, just saying that social "progress" (quotes since that's highly subjective, though I do support gay marriage) isn't the reason for the slippery slope, morons behind social "progress", however, are.
Yeah I don’t have any problem with gay marriage either, more using that as an example of how when you make tolerance your #1 virtue shit gets out of hand real fuckin quick
Is this a rip on the right-wing claim that Democrats will move to normalize pedophilia next? Because that slippery slope shit can be leveled right back at right-wingers these days, too.
Um, it was a tool from the very beginning, the only reason why lgbt was relevant for gays was gay marriage. And they didn't accomplish gay marriage for the sake of gays.
Pedos give children candies before raping them.
That's right, lgbt is just a century long plan to legalise rape and paedophilia.
Yknow that reminds me of the B thing. Bi people always act like they're fucking oppressed and shit. Like just don't be fucking bi for a while if it's gonna get you ousted from your home or some shit, you can go for both so just choose to go for one. But if you suggest that to a bi person complaining about such things they act like the world is ending. Bruh, you don't need to fuck everyone you're attracted to, fucking Christ.
No medical institution would agree with your conclusion that they are mentally ill, or suffer from anything but that which a person would naturally feel from all of the oppression and bigotry cast upon them in society. Yours is an pseudoscientific viewpoint with absolutely no basis in reality or evidence.
No medical institution would agree with your conclusion that they are mentally ill
Which would be fine if Science™ arrived at that conclusion through the use of empirical evidence instead of political pressure. If you have a cock and honestly believe you're a woman you have a screw loose. If I went to a shrink and told him I'm really George Washington they're not gonna hand me a wool uniform and a set of wooden dentures before asking me to cross the Delaware on Christmas morning. They're going to declare me insane, not enable and encourage my delusions.
Because trannies are kind of somewhere there mentally.
When I tell that to people they get offended about how I am being disrespectful to people with schizophrenia... Yeah my bad madam, ur right, trannies are worse than that.
I get why they had the T though. Nobody thought that the tiny number of actual transexuals would be crowded out by autistic incels takijg their cross dressing fetish to an insane level
It's really funny thinking about how much impact OJ has had on our current culture. From reality TV, IG, and awarding woman of the year to a man who committed manslaughter. It all OJ's legacy.
Although, I don't think they were ever sane. It's just become bigotry if you don't support normalizing some ridiculous fetishes. So they were always in the shadows, but now people make it their entire identity and disrupt families to engage in hedonism. Damn OJ.
Idk. I kinda blame tumblr, and the “is mayonnaise a gender” meme it spawned. Years and years of incubating these weird teenagers insisting that everything from TV they thought was cool was actually a gender..
Like, even right now, go search “therrien” on YouTube.
The T were always sane, it is society that changed, not transexuals. Reactionaries took upon bigotry against trans people as a cause celebre, they viewed it as a softer way to practice their emotionally driven and irrational bigotry against people who fail to follow norms, one that would be amply rewarded. And they were correct, they created the trans panic that currently exists.
I'm gonna strongly disagree. When I was a young whippersnapper in the 80s and 90s, we used to giggle at the Holy Rollers who would get bent outta shape about "the gays" and make the slippery slope argument that if we normalized homosexuality it would lead to polygamy, bestiality, acceptance of pedophilia, and all manner of deviant behavior. 20 to 30 years later I'm not giggling any longer. As dumb as the argument was, they were right.
You don't have to go any further than /r/Drama to see they were right, either, because we find just about every bit of degenerate, deviant craziness Reddit has to offer. We've had several threads of people advocating for bestiality (dog fucking in particular), like these two threads:
And the tranny shit is objectively the least sane of all the LGBT mish-mash at this point. You'd have to be out of your mind to even suggest to people that having biological males share intimate spaces like showers and bathrooms with biological females because of how they "identify" in middle school and high school. Are people bigots because they don't want their (pre-)teen daughter sharing a shower with a boy? I don't think so.
The gays and lesbians should have thrown the trannies under the bus at least a year ago. When the worm turns and society decides the gay shit needs to go there's going to be no one to blame but the trannies. Which is a terrible tragedy because I know how much some of you love Ru Paul's Drag Race.
I had a traumatic experience. I’m a very tolerant, ‘live and let live’ type of person. I had just broken up with a girl I thought I was going to marry. I was newly working night shift, which is a special kind of trauma in itself. A few months after the breakup, I was still feeling pretty crappy. I have a friend I talk to through this kind of thing. I invite him over. We go have some drinks and bitch about the girls we’ve known recently. We head back to my apartment with a six pack and two friends in tow. Now, my buddy wants some. I could use some, but I’m definitely not emotionally ready for this type of intimacy and I have a long standing agreement with myself to not pay for sex. Friend insists and offers to pay for it, so I agree. Girl comes over. She’s a really pretty black girl. Or so I think. Friend insists I go first. We go to the bedroom and she’s giving me head. I reach down to help her out too, and there’s a bulge. I had no idea. I wasn’t sure what to do, but I didn’t want to offend this person or be rude. I walked out of the room white as a ghost. ‘She’ stole my debit card, two of my watches, and blew a fat load on the back of my black suit coat, which I found out about after one of my coworkers commented that someone had spit on my back. Tolerant as I am, that experience was traumatic, and I have a hard time trusting trans people now. Even though I know that it wasn’t their fault and they are just people trying to live their lives.
When you insist on asking people to call you a woman when you are 6'4" and have a beard.
So if your pretty your a woman? Ugly women are not women? Pretty traps are?
I'm pretty sure that no reasonable definition of transexuality contains a reference to how attractive they are. It is not the responsibility of women to make your dick hard, your perception of their attractiveness is an irrelevant subject. That your own emotional state, it is not the responsibility of anyone else to manage your emotional and irrational nature.
It's none of the letter tbh. Activism only accelerates louder despite progress and people lose sympathy for any group that gets what it wants and then moves the goal posts forward endlessly. This combined with woke corporatism turning activism into a vapid aestetic will kill any appeal to young people's interest. Nothing that mega corporations mandate will ever be cool.
Bigots will be bigots, they are responsible for their own feelings. It isn't my responsibility to manage your emotional and irrational feelings of hatred. Personally someone could spit in my face and kick me every day for 30 years and I wouldn't suddenly turn into a racist homophobe. Might want to take a look in the mirror in judging why you feel the way you do. This is not an issue that has any basis in reality, it is an issue that autogenerated from the psychological state of bigoted, emotional, intolerant, and irrational individuals.
It isn't my responsibility to manage your emotional and irrational feelings of hatred.
We're not talking about responsibility, we're talking your self interest. Hell, I don't have animosity, I'm going to pride this weekend with LGBT friends. In fact pride is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. It's not a protest, it's a victory celebration. Pride won years ago(good for them), society is just negotiating the terms of the victory. None of the major milestones are on the table, we're just squabbling over fringe issues that hadn't been hashed out yet. LGBT won the culture war but they don't have carte blanc, becoming whiney bad winners that demand more than what we're the terms and pretend they haven't really won if they don't get every one of their wildest demands right now will endear no one to the cause.
Personally someone could spit in my face and kick me every day for 30 years and I wouldn't suddenly turn into a racist homophobe.
The central example of a racist homophobe isn't "uncomfortable with the movement", they're aggressively opposed. More and more people are uncomfortable with the movement, more and more people are not going out and abusing LGBT people, there is a difference.
Might want to take a look in the mirror in judging why you feel the way you do.
And how do you think I feel resident lolcow?
This is not an issue that has any basis in reality, it is an issue that autogenerated from the psychological state of bigoted, emotional, intolerant, and irrational individuals.
Tbh, if I was a Russian trying to destabilize the sociopolitical culture of the United States, having a 10 year old autistic boy preform burlesque dances in front of cheering grown men and then take pictures with one of with nothing but a sock over his dick backstage would be the thing I'm trying to promote.
I mean for fucks sake, Out magazine named this kid as a fuckin icon, I wonder if they're gonna be cool with that when he's dead of an OD at 16 while they get DNA samples of a grown man from the body, and the sad part is that's a genuine possibility at this point.
Yes anti trans bigots are Nazis, this is true. Every day they practice horrible and utterly evil things that would shock all sense of values and morality in their pursuit of hatred.
Hey, TheBigDogAteMyAss, i.e. the gay retard, I thought it was the trans who were responsible for everything? This guy seems to be concerned with increasing bigotry and hatred of gay people though. Awfully strange sense you've definitely made it, are totally safe, will never lose any rights, and the trans are responsible for everything, what you've decided to make your scapegoat for why bigotry against you has increased when bigotry against you totally is non-existent.
Fucking running dogs are worse than fash. Go lick more boot.
IMO people should do what best suits them. You wanna suck dick? Cool. You wanna cut off your dick? Cool. I couldn't care less. Get married. Yeetus that fetus. Do drugs. Fuck a whore.
But be realistic for fuck sake. If you're a non passing trans don't even bother asking people to call you by whatever pronouns you prefer. That shit is literally skin deep.
And if you insist on making people call you by whatever pronoun the unrealistic vision you have in your head is, I'm going to be polite upon first meeting you and then I'll intentionally never talk to you again. It seems a lot of people feel the same way.
So when so many people avoid people with this shit as hard as they would a schizo (interestingly, there's a high crossover between the two), it's no wonder they get depressed. It must be such a lonely life and it doesn't take a genius to see why the suicide rate is so high.
If you're a non passing trans don't even bother asking people to call you by whatever pronouns you prefer. That shit is literally skin deep.
If being a transwoman is real why would it have anything at all to do with whether or not they're attractive. That's other people, medicine has never in history worried about other people. Denying someone a treatment for a condition you acknowledge exists because you don't think they would wind up getting many dicks hard would be unethical in the extreme.
Besides if you disagree with the scientific and evidence based medical consensus on transwomen and transmen, I seriously doubt it matters whether or not they pass. Their passing is, again, not a relevant subject. This is not cosmetic surgery.
As if having children is useful. The only thing women are useful for is sex, and a lot of them aren't even useful for that. Being ugly makes you unfuckable. It's like being a toaster in a world without bread. No one is ever going to stick anything in you.
Why do people like you think 'you're either with us or against us'? (and before you start typing 'you people???' I mean CTH retards)
I don't hate trans people. I just don't care about them. When someone looks and sounds like a man, people are going to assume they're a man, regardless of what their sex assignment was.
If you ask me to call you something when visually you're not, you're asking me to care, even just a little. Ok, no problem, I'll call you whatever gender you want.
I've never been mean or have even given a dirty look to trans co-workers or friends of friends because I don't care enough to. Why would I? Live your life how you want. But I'm not going to include you in mine.
BTW, by 'skin deep' I meant that's how looks and first impressions are. If you look and sound like a man, then you're a man 'skin deep'. When you first talk to someone they're going to assume you're either a man or a woman. Regardless of whether or not you're trans.
If you can still call me a bigot then you're going to find the vast majority of the world is bigoted under the wide definition you have of the word. Sorry we don't fit your world view, I guess?
Some bigots have indeed gone too far, I definitely agree. Hopefully we hold bigots appropriately responsible, they are responsible for their own emotions, no one else is.
I've seen some thread linked on here where a lesbian was complaining about how many "trans lesbians" (still with dicks) are on dating apps and got called a TERF or whatever. Must be annoying.
When I said that mentally ill shouldn't be supported, as in left alone to let their illness freely progress till it becomes a mass hysteria, everyone laughed and called me bigot incel.
Bigotry is indeed a contagious mental illness. Unlike being Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, or Transexual, bigotry is a choice. Thus it must be suppressed. Only bigots are responsible for their bigotry. You are guilty. Transwomen are innocent.
It's at the point where it's actually impossible to find an actual lesbian woman on a dating app. And the dudes are sending disgusting shit to your inbox constantly. Annoying doesn't begin to cover it.
99% of them are probably straight men but yeah let's be a good running dog and just insert ourselves into this conversation as if this is something that can really be blamed on transwomen. Just because your a freaking coward and are afraid of getting downvotes.
Again, being LGBT is not a crime, they are innocent, thus any feelings of hatred towards them are an unjustified aggression. Bigots are always guilty, LGBT are largely innocent. This is very simple.
Um... This hasn't been my experience at all? ...Are you actually a lesbian trying lesbian dating apps? Because where I'm at there are tons of cis lesbians I maybe see 1 trans girl out of 100. Maybe you're doing something wrong...
You aren't having trouble because you are a man. All the straight women on dating apps want your penis. This is not at all similar to how the lesbian scene is.
Yes, lmao. Lots of straight women LARP as "queer" or "lesbian" because it's a trendy woke thing. This is part of why it's so hard to find an actual lesbian to date, because the field is overwhelmed with these woke moron straight chicks. And any woman willing to entertain you romantically is, by definition, not a lesbian. So yes, all the straight women want your penis, because you are a man.
Jesus christ the basic shit I have to explain to people.
You have pictures on your profile, dude. You don't pass. They might as well be staring right into your penis, because it's obvious you're a guy. Straight LARPers also love MtFs because they can use you guys for woke points, but since you're men they aren't totally disgusted by you sexually.
More likely the average lesbian just isn't a bigot.
Again, these people are not lesbians. Zero percent of lesbians are interested in you.
mfw men define bigotry and not being willing to fuck them
Oh dear you've attacked my appearance! I could never have seen such a thing coming! Truly the tactic of the correct!
It was a struggle once, but I'm good with the way I look. You're searching for cheap shots to take to justify your absolutely wild assertion that a significant portion of lesbians are actually straight girls pretending to be gay because "it's trendy." Clearly you've cracked the conspiracy!
I could be an asshole and say something like you've come up with that to cope with your lack of dating success for certain reasons but I won't stoop to your level. I'm sure you're a beautiful person and I genuinely wish you all the best in your romantic life and otherwise.
It's not a cheap shot. That's kind of the thing. It's a discussion about the reality of the situation. You do not look like a woman. It's not an attack, it's a statement of fact. I guarantee you everyone who sees you knows you're a man. Thus, people who want to date you are attracted to men. They may or may not also be attracted to women, but none of them are lesbians, because lesbians aren't into men.
Being trans, you probably don't like dealing with material reality, but it is what it is. Pretending it's not there doesn't make it go away. Really wanting to be a woman doesn't make you one.
And I'm not surprised you don't know anything about lesbians or the lesbian community. Men rarely do, and in their arrogance, refuse to learn. It's pretty classic misogyny. We've known about and hated these fake lesbians since before you were born. They're more common now, of course, but it's the same as it always was. None of this is new.
I'm sure you're a beautiful person and I genuinely wish you all the best in your romantic life and otherwise.
No, you don't. Reality, buddy. Let's stick to what's actually true.
No, you don't. Reality, buddy. Let's stick to what's actually true.
The fact that you can't fathom someone meeting your hate with kindness says a lot about you. At this point you're just devolving into attacking my appearance and my identity here, and I could sit here and pretend I'm enjoying your clearly growing anger as is the fashion, but I honestly just feel a bit sorry for you and thats making me sad. Have a good night
The fact that you can't fathom someone meeting your hate with kindness says a lot about you.
It's not an attempt at kindness. It's a disingenuous display of self-congratulatory smarm. The "I feel so sorry for you" is an extension of it. It's like a white-belt-tier attempt at manipulation and you need to be at least like a brown belt to come close to making a dent here. Step up your game, fam.
I mean they are superior because I'm only /r/drama-tier retarded and not whatever the fuck echelon of cognitive disability you're on, but that's not saying much.
Yeah HER is all trannies and straight LARPers. OKCupid used to be okay but not so much anymore. It's very self-reinforcing, because actual lesbians won't join OKC or HER because of this so it's literally only trannies and straight chicks.
I remember somebody was working on one that was real women only but idk if that got off the ground.
Yeah I think it was the lez app but it seems to have disappeared. It's sad really because lesbian bars have all but gone too. You're right about the self-reinforcing cycle, though OKC might be an option but I guess not. It's weird that straight women are also on those apps though.
society labors under the "women are wonderful" effect,for some reason we think women are all inherently good people. you can see it on reddit alot, express a negative or assholish opinion, you get "you obviously don't get laid !!", because women are all ultra moral perfect beings and you can't fuck them unless you're a good person, apparently.
I think it also in part comes from an idea that women are to be protected, and so we can't just outright call their actions stupid, as if they don't put any thought into their ideas.
Indeed. But, for some unknown reason, our society (being the US) only negates personal mandates for well off white women in threat regard. Like, come on they ain't children unaware of second level reasoning.
Women will go along with it because why not let everyone believe you’re perfect and retard men will go along with it because it gives them hope that if they retweet the right opinions enough it’ll get them laid
I think it's deeper. The absolute need for there to be absolute purity in a wide swath of people that we just decided to be women. It goes back to the ideal of the porcelain mother from Victorian mores.
In reality men/women/etc are capable of immense beauty and absolute horrific natures. We be complicated apes yo.
When you get burly straight men helicoptering their dicks in the women's room and being allowed to do so bc they claim they're really women inside, women stop liking the people that support that ideology.
Honestly, I doubt foids care about that. They had no issues pimping out their 9yos on child beauty pageants. They are more likely just salty about troons.
why do people not get the difference between sad moms reliving their glory days by torturing their kids with beauty pageants and grown, drunk men throwing dollar bills at a kid wearing skimpy clothing dancing like a stipper on the stage of a club
Have you seen child beauty pageants? Mayo stage moms may live their lives through their tweens, but the final product is 90% pedo fap fodder. At least the people who put that kid in drag are upfront about their degeneracy.
back when there was buzz about pedos using youtube to jerk of to children, somebody posted elsewhere on reddit about the child/teen modeling part of instagram.
it's parents posting pictures of their daughters in bikinis, leotards, dance wear, etc., and like 90% of their followers and comments are adult men. it's incredibly fucked up, because the parents have to be fully aware that their main audience is pedophile men.
so they knowingly exploit their own children to get brand deals with companies that don't realize 90% of their followers are adult pedophiles uninterested in their product
That's not why people are less tolerant of gay people. People are less tolerant of gay people because they've grown more right wing and bigoted. They are responsible for their own bigotry, the target of their bigotry are innocent, only the bigots are guilty and can be held at fault using reason.
Bigotry doesn't matter if the minority is too small. Literally we must cater to the emotions of bigots at all times, soothe their ego and tell them it's alright, they totally are not responsible for their bigotry and it is someone else's fault for the hatred and aggression they display towards innocents.
Imagine if your wife fucking left you for a goddamn bee. Like jesus christ they only live for 30 full days that's not even enough time to develop a good relationship. If you ask me my man Ken dodged a bullet right there. That fucking bee even got his wife involved in a court case, the fucking manipulative psychopath. And for what even, fucking honey?? Its a healthy nutritious product and the bees don't even get hurt when they collect it. In fact they get a free fucking hive in a protected area for fuck sake . And besides after they ban honey collection what do you think will happen to those bees in the hives huh? That's right the fucking honeybee holocaust. Do they think the beekeepers will just keep those little fuckers for fun?? Hell no they'll get exterminated at speeds unbeknownst to man. That will then cause all the other fucking plants to die because you know pollens and shit and then that's it for us too. The end of the world as we know it. All because some horny bitch wanted some fancy jazz listening bee dick. I say fuck her man, i hope Ken is doing well for himself that man deserves it.
It's a good way for people to identify themselves as entitled and disrespectful of others comfort. I'm glad that there's some push back on actually heralding these "folx" as brave and courageous.
So your argument consists of feeling that their beliefs are retarded. This argument is irrational, it consists of nothing but your personal emotions. Ignoring. As for your mental state, undoubtedly your motivations for making this argument come from your own bigotry.
By a "good variety of responses", you mean /r/the_donald squeezed out of a tube. "Diversity of opinion" means a right wing monoculture to rightists such as yourself. The existence of the left isn't tolerated.
Hot take: People aren't getting less tolerant; the standards for what is considered tolerant are changing.
10 years ago "I don't give a shit if you're gay just leave me out of it" was considered a tolerant opinion.
5 years ago "okay I'll call you by whatever pronouns you prefer because it doesn't cost me anything but that doesn't mean you are literally, factually, actually, in reality a woman" was considered a tolerant opinion.
Now these are considered pretty homophobic and transphobic.
When GLAAD delved into the numbers, the group found that the younger generation was coming in contact with more LBGTQ people, particularly individuals who are non-binary and don’t identify simply as lesbian or gay.
“This newness they are experiencing could be leading to this erosion. It’s a newness that takes time for people to understand. Our job is to educate about non-conformity,” she said.
Always a good idea to double down on whatever retardation currently isn't working.
Having the schools teach acceptance is great but is also going to have the effect of kids not thinking that accepting gender non-conformity is rebellious anymore. There's always going to be groups of kids who reject whatever the squares are telling them to think. I think this is a part of it anyway.
No minority in history has ever gotten anything by modifying their behavior in response to the feelings and emotions of bigots. It is not their responsibility to reduce the irrational bigotry others have decided to display towards them after hearing nothing about them besides conduct that is lawful and innocent (being LGBT). LGBT are innocent, bigots are guilty. Their bigotry comes from themselves, no one else has any responsibility at all for it.
I get why, even being the L myself the modern lgbt movement is a minefield
We are bound to see the effects catching up with us sooner or later. The fact that people like JY can essentially get away with all of this is concerning.
I have had to ask myself if I am embracing the IA+ folks carrying the pansexual, genderqueer, polysexual, and agender flags
yeah they don't really, pink news especially do this kinda thing. At the same time, it's hard to be unified when those who are same-sex attracted and those that trans may have different and conflicting goals.
You really think you're gaining something by throwing transwomen under the bus. This bigotry against transwomen that demagogues have stoked also results in bigotry against gays and lesbians. Your attempt to use transwomen as a scapegoat to avoid persecution is pathetic. Go lick boot.
We may have different goals but I believe all minorities deserve the right to be free from discrimination in healthcare, employment and housing that doesn't change.
This is hardly just trannies. It's a combination of various things, tacking polyamory, anticapitalism, kinks, and other bullshit onto the movement, as well as replacing well adjusted LGBT people who used to lead the discourse with lunatics turns people off. On top of that what's considered "tolerant" has shifted.
Transgender people are way more likely to bite into that woke anticapitalist insanity tbh. Or at least the trans people you're likely to see, which isn't good for such a small minority.
That's not what tolerance means. The survey didn't ask if they were unwilling to interact with lgbtq people, it asked if they were uncomfortable with them. You can't be intolerant of a group that doesn't make you uncomfortable.
When has tolerance ever meant a total unwillingness to participate in any social interaction. Masters often communicated with their slaves, was that tolerance? Again total irrationality. Let's focus on the bigots, not what they are bigoted against. Stop enabling bigotry by assuming that someone else is responsible for their hatred and aggression. Bigotry by definition means they're holding people responsible using a criterion that is lawful and legitimate. Bigotry always involves oppression of the innocent.
When has tolerance ever meant a total unwillingness to participate in any social interaction.
Tolerance means not discriminating against people whom you don't like. I can't be tolerant of gay people because I don't dislike gay people, I don't get to pat myself on the back for not discriminating against people whom I have no impulse to discriminate again. For instance, you can tolerate bigots but clearly choose not to. Tolerance is not a universal good, you shouldn't be tolerant of people who are trying to harm you, that's just a lack of self preservation. To quote a better author than I:
In Chesterton’s The Secret of Father Brown, a beloved nobleman who murdered his good-for-nothing brother in a duel thirty years ago returns to his hometown wracked by guilt. All the townspeople want to forgive him immediately, and they mock the titular priest for only being willing to give a measured forgiveness conditional on penance and self-reflection. They lecture the priest on the virtues of charity and compassion.
Later, it comes out that the beloved nobleman did not in fact kill his good-for-nothing brother. The good-for-nothing brother killed the beloved nobleman (and stole his identity). Now the townspeople want to see him lynched or burned alive, and it is only the priest who – consistently – offers a measured forgiveness conditional on penance and self-reflection.
The priest tells them:
It seems to me that you only pardon the sins that you don’t really think sinful. You only forgive criminals when they commit what you don’t regard as crimes, but rather as conventions. You forgive a conventional duel just as you forgive a conventional divorce. You forgive because there isn’t anything to be forgiven.
He further notes that this is why the townspeople can self-righteously consider themselves more compassionate and forgiving than he is. Actual forgiveness, the kind the priest needs to cultivate to forgive evildoers, is really really hard. The fake forgiveness the townspeople use to forgive the people they like is really easy, so they get to boast not only of their forgiving nature, but of how much nicer they are than those mean old priests who find forgiveness difficult and want penance along with it.
Masters often communicated with their slaves, was that tolerance?
Masters discriminated against their slaves. They both didn't like their slaves and treated them differently because of that dislike.
Stop enabling bigotry by assuming that someone else is responsible for their hatred and aggression. Bigotry by definition means they're holding people responsible using a criterion that is lawful and legitimate. Bigotry always involves oppression of the innocent.
Numerous comments in this thread that assume the bigots are correct (just assume their premise without argument, very galaxy brain thing to do), point out things that apply to gays and lesbians. But yeah your totally fine and shouldn't worry and you can escape all of this by throwing transwomen under the bus like a weak cuck. After they supported you for decades without hesitation, once you think you've arrived and are in the club with the other oppressors, you immediately discard. Disgusting. Running dogs make me sick.
i dont mean to sound rude or anything, but maybe its because of the few radicals in the community that give it a bad name? (those people that brag about it and think their entire life revolve around their sexuality)
Stop enabling bigots by assuming their premise is correct and finding justifications for it. When trying to see who to hold responsible for bigotry, look at the bigot, not the target of their hatred. That is the cause. Their decision to obsessively indulge in hateful propaganda to the point that they've brainwashed themselves and are not capable of rational thought anymore.
yes, the problem is most of those radicals fall into the T side, which has a small representation already, so that's basically all anyone sees of them. I genuinely sympathize with the transgender people who aren't larping nutjobs who want to overthrow the ciscapitalistpatriarchy
I like how this article implies that if you're not constantly bullying people into accepting certain social/social justice movements they're not going to buy into them.
They also land at a dark hour politically and culturally for the LGBTQ community amid a rise in inflammatory rhetoric and dozens of policy setbacks, such as a ban on transgender people in the military and religious exemption laws that can lead to discrimination, Ellis and Gerzema said. Both are a likely force behind the young's pushback on tolerance, they said.
The young are bombarded by hate speech on social platforms from viral videos to “mean tweets,” Gerzema said. “Our toxic culture is enveloping young people. It instills fear, alienation, but also permissibility” that could sway “impressionable" young minds on what is acceptable.
So if you allow people to make up their own mind without pressuring them they're less likely to support gays and trannies. I wonder if anyone else will pick up on that hot take and give USA Today a ration of shit for it?
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1 SnapshillBot 2019-06-24
I'm not even sure what your point is. Yeah I'd rather sleep with a dakimakura of my waifu Renge-chan than with some random 3D slut but that doesn't mean I'm desperate, it's the opposite, it implies that I have standards.
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1 JohnWoo4 2019-06-24
My waifu will never betray me like real women do.
1 loli_esports 2019-06-24
Nyan passu
1 BussyShillBot 2019-06-24
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1 200iqBigBrain 2019-06-24
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that it has something to do with the letter T
1 TheBigDogAteMyAss 2019-06-24
When you insist on asking people to call you a woman when you are 6'4" and have a beard. And also do all the shit on /r/ItsAFetish people start looking at the LGBT weird. Even other normal gay men and women distance themselves from LGBT because of it (including me).
1 ImJustaBagofHammers 2019-06-24
http://archive.is/TcqPq
1 _Suprememe_ 2019-06-24
>mfw reading that
1 Coonass_alt 2019-06-24
no reason at all
1 Grundleberries 2019-06-24
Programmer Socks
1 Protista_of_Peace 2019-06-24
And they are knock-off programmer socks that don't even go thigh high. smdh. That's more disgraceful than the saggy ass.
1 TheColdTurtle 2019-06-24
/r/drama mod out on a daily stroll
1 200iqBigBrain 2019-06-24
Hank Hill ass
1 Alicesnakebae 2019-06-24
Which drama mod is that
1 Day_of_the_COPE 2019-06-24
Chapos solution was “just don’t bring kids to pride if u don’t want to see public sex”
1 Coonass_alt 2019-06-24
honestly i'd be okay if that was their take but there are plenty of people arguing you are a bigot for not exposing your kids to this shit.
1 Day_of_the_COPE 2019-06-24
I moved out of my favorite apartment because it was on the pride parade route. After the second year of literally seeing people fuck in the middle of the street. Used needles everywhere. Me having to fight off people trying to feed my fucking dog booze, it was too much. The excuse I was told was “lol it celebrates a riot moron don’t tell u what to do or we will turn this bitch into one”
1 200iqBigBrain 2019-06-24
Imagine growing up as this person's daughter. My sympathies to the next generation.
1 _Suprememe_ 2019-06-24
1 200iqBigBrain 2019-06-24
and that's good for drama
1 _Suprememe_ 2019-06-24
Drama is more enjoyable when it comes from trivial bullshit like vidya or burger tribe elections.
1 jubbergun 2019-06-24
I prefer crazy drama to sad drama, and child abuse and neglect stories are sad drama. Look what happens to people who are abused or neglected as children. That's how you end up with Qanon followers, Chapos, Mormons, and LSC posters.
1 15ImpoundedCats 2019-06-24
Of course they are.
The sentences you find yourself reading in 2019. . . .
1 VanillaReign 2019-06-24
This:
definitely explains this:
Of course a translibertarian is going to pop a stiffy when xhe gets xir titty sucked.
1 d4ddyd54m4 2019-06-24
By a child no less
1 Rusty_Ice 2019-06-24
My theory is that LGBT is a century long plan to legalise paedophilia and rape in general.
They gave us candies with gay marriage, now they will rape us, first with trannies, then with real pedos.
1 MayoNonsense 2019-06-24
Can someone invent a time machine and drop me off to 2007 please
1 redditaccountiuse 2019-06-24
Why would you want to go through the early stages of western social collapse again
1 texanapocalypse33 2019-06-24
So I can invest deep on memecoin and warn my people of Fortnite
1 15ImpoundedCats 2019-06-24
I wonder if Back to the Future were made today, would Michael J. Fox be fighting to stay in the 1950s?
1 shhh_im_ban_evading 2019-06-24
I think he would just be fighting off the shakes.
1 IHeartCommyMommy 2019-06-24
Lmao we got osrs in 2013, stop whining it's only improved since then 😂😂😂
1 Rusty_Ice 2019-06-24
2007scape wouldn't be played by anyone if 2011scape was a thing but ok.
1 contentedserf 2019-06-24
r/itsafetish
1 911roofer 2019-06-24
Every day we get further and further from god''s light.
1 d4ddyd54m4 2019-06-24
The sun truly set with Dubya
1 Rusty_Ice 2019-06-24
You losers did it for yourselves.
Associating mentally ill with people of different sexualities, while mentioning same sexuality twice lol.
Add S to that title, for schizophrenia, since that's basically what being a yeah my is, and you gotta repeat tranny, just like gay, twice.
Bi is just closet gay so irrelevant btw.
1 TheBigDogAteMyAss 2019-06-24
Didnt say I agreed with that. It's stupid
1 Rusty_Ice 2019-06-24
If I unironically believed that you agree with that when you made it clear that you don't in comment I replied to, I'm pretty sure it would be legal to execute me and I'm still here.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2019-06-24
Mainstream LGBT has not really been in the hands of actual gay and lesbian people. It's been a corporate tool for a while now. Once the corporate Democrats accomplished federally-legislated gay marriage, they needed a new goalpost.
1 Imgur_Lurker 2019-06-24
I miss all the people saying muh slipperly slope to the rightwingers dumb enough to use forums in the old days.
1 ScroblertMoblert 2019-06-24
"Muh slipperly slope lmao" they cry as they slide down a slope
1 gfour 2019-06-24
Lol you really think gay marriage is going to lead to 8 year old drag queens dancing for money at bars or men with beards going to the bathroom with your daughter? Bigot.
1 ScroblertMoblert 2019-06-24
I don't think gay marriage is responsible for that at all. I think morons who don't know when to stop or where to draw a line because they make politics their full identity are.
Also I know this was bait, just saying that social "progress" (quotes since that's highly subjective, though I do support gay marriage) isn't the reason for the slippery slope, morons behind social "progress", however, are.
1 gfour 2019-06-24
Yeah I don’t have any problem with gay marriage either, more using that as an example of how when you make tolerance your #1 virtue shit gets out of hand real fuckin quick
1 Day_of_the_COPE 2019-06-24
I LAUGHED like a rude as fuck pretentious 20 something in my uncles face when he mentioned a similar sops 10 years ago at a family gathering.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2019-06-24
Is this a rip on the right-wing claim that Democrats will move to normalize pedophilia next? Because that slippery slope shit can be leveled right back at right-wingers these days, too.
1 Imgur_Lurker 2019-06-24
If you don't know what it means don't project your stupidity on what you think i'm saying, thanks.
1 Rusty_Ice 2019-06-24
Um, it was a tool from the very beginning, the only reason why lgbt was relevant for gays was gay marriage. And they didn't accomplish gay marriage for the sake of gays.
Pedos give children candies before raping them.
That's right, lgbt is just a century long plan to legalise rape and paedophilia.
1 UpvoteIfYouDare 2019-06-24
> muh pedophilia fearmongering
It was the Bohemian Grove with the Republicans twenty years ago. Now it's a pizza place with the Democrats.
1 ScroblertMoblert 2019-06-24
Yknow that reminds me of the B thing. Bi people always act like they're fucking oppressed and shit. Like just don't be fucking bi for a while if it's gonna get you ousted from your home or some shit, you can go for both so just choose to go for one. But if you suggest that to a bi person complaining about such things they act like the world is ending. Bruh, you don't need to fuck everyone you're attracted to, fucking Christ.
1 Rusty_Ice 2019-06-24
Ye you do, that's what being bi really means - woman, but unlike trannies, unaware about it.
1 watermark002 2019-06-24
No medical institution would agree with your conclusion that they are mentally ill, or suffer from anything but that which a person would naturally feel from all of the oppression and bigotry cast upon them in society. Yours is an pseudoscientific viewpoint with absolutely no basis in reality or evidence.
1 d4ddyd54m4 2019-06-24
Trannies are fucking disgusting, unnatural abominations to Allah's eyes
1 jubbergun 2019-06-24
Which would be fine if Science™ arrived at that conclusion through the use of empirical evidence instead of political pressure. If you have a cock and honestly believe you're a woman you have a screw loose. If I went to a shrink and told him I'm really George Washington they're not gonna hand me a wool uniform and a set of wooden dentures before asking me to cross the Delaware on Christmas morning. They're going to declare me insane, not enable and encourage my delusions.
1 Rusty_Ice 2019-06-24
Is insanity a late stage of schizophrenia?
Because trannies are kind of somewhere there mentally.
When I tell that to people they get offended about how I am being disrespectful to people with schizophrenia... Yeah my bad madam, ur right, trannies are worse than that.
1 Rusty_Ice 2019-06-24
Psychology nowadays is more detached from reality than schizophrenics.
Also, being a tranny is a form of schizophrenia, that's why psychologists themselves call them normal.
Because schizophrenia is good.
1 Peytons_5head 2019-06-24
I get why they had the T though. Nobody thought that the tiny number of actual transexuals would be crowded out by autistic incels takijg their cross dressing fetish to an insane level
1 TheBigDogAteMyAss 2019-06-24
That is true. The "T" were sane for a good while until Bruce Jenner had to blow up the spot.
1 KanyeetWeebs 2019-06-24
It's really funny thinking about how much impact OJ has had on our current culture. From reality TV, IG, and awarding woman of the year to a man who committed manslaughter. It all OJ's legacy.
Although, I don't think they were ever sane. It's just become bigotry if you don't support normalizing some ridiculous fetishes. So they were always in the shadows, but now people make it their entire identity and disrupt families to engage in hedonism. Damn OJ.
1 Alicesnakebae 2019-06-24
OJ killed America
1 Fallout_ManchVegas 2019-06-24
Idk. I kinda blame tumblr, and the “is mayonnaise a gender” meme it spawned. Years and years of incubating these weird teenagers insisting that everything from TV they thought was cool was actually a gender..
Like, even right now, go search “therrien” on YouTube.
1 rsaahhuul0 2019-06-24
I’m pretty sure it’s “Therian” unless we’re not talking about the same thing.
1 Fallout_ManchVegas 2019-06-24
You’re probably right
1 watermark002 2019-06-24
The T were always sane, it is society that changed, not transexuals. Reactionaries took upon bigotry against trans people as a cause celebre, they viewed it as a softer way to practice their emotionally driven and irrational bigotry against people who fail to follow norms, one that would be amply rewarded. And they were correct, they created the trans panic that currently exists.
Bigots are responsible for bigotry, no one else.
1 TheBigDogAteMyAss 2019-06-24
/r/ItsAFetish tho.
1 jubbergun 2019-06-24
I'm gonna strongly disagree. When I was a young whippersnapper in the 80s and 90s, we used to giggle at the Holy Rollers who would get bent outta shape about "the gays" and make the slippery slope argument that if we normalized homosexuality it would lead to polygamy, bestiality, acceptance of pedophilia, and all manner of deviant behavior. 20 to 30 years later I'm not giggling any longer. As dumb as the argument was, they were right.
You don't have to go any further than /r/Drama to see they were right, either, because we find just about every bit of degenerate, deviant craziness Reddit has to offer. We've had several threads of people advocating for bestiality (dog fucking in particular), like these two threads:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/8jvpwp/srd_has_their_monthly_bestiality_thread/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/8jraw4/regrettably_i_present_to_you_the_annual_dog/
We're constantly barraged with kiddie-diddler apologia and predatory scumbags who want to normalize fucking kids, like these two threads:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/c4vspb/pedo_defense_force_assemble/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/c4a3we/is_being_attracted_to_17yearold_billie_eilish/
And we just had a thread about polyamorous morons in the last 24-48 hours:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/c4lhb4/redditor_does_not_want_sisters_boyfriend_and/
And the tranny shit is objectively the least sane of all the LGBT mish-mash at this point. You'd have to be out of your mind to even suggest to people that having biological males share intimate spaces like showers and bathrooms with biological females because of how they "identify" in middle school and high school. Are people bigots because they don't want their (pre-)teen daughter sharing a shower with a boy? I don't think so.
The gays and lesbians should have thrown the trannies under the bus at least a year ago. When the worm turns and society decides the gay shit needs to go there's going to be no one to blame but the trannies. Which is a terrible tragedy because I know how much some of you love Ru Paul's Drag Race.
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1 XhotwheelsloverX 2019-06-24
It's over for modcels
1 jubbergun 2019-06-24
Did it ever really begin?
1 braidedpubes86 2019-06-24
I had a traumatic experience. I’m a very tolerant, ‘live and let live’ type of person. I had just broken up with a girl I thought I was going to marry. I was newly working night shift, which is a special kind of trauma in itself. A few months after the breakup, I was still feeling pretty crappy. I have a friend I talk to through this kind of thing. I invite him over. We go have some drinks and bitch about the girls we’ve known recently. We head back to my apartment with a six pack and two friends in tow. Now, my buddy wants some. I could use some, but I’m definitely not emotionally ready for this type of intimacy and I have a long standing agreement with myself to not pay for sex. Friend insists and offers to pay for it, so I agree. Girl comes over. She’s a really pretty black girl. Or so I think. Friend insists I go first. We go to the bedroom and she’s giving me head. I reach down to help her out too, and there’s a bulge. I had no idea. I wasn’t sure what to do, but I didn’t want to offend this person or be rude. I walked out of the room white as a ghost. ‘She’ stole my debit card, two of my watches, and blew a fat load on the back of my black suit coat, which I found out about after one of my coworkers commented that someone had spit on my back. Tolerant as I am, that experience was traumatic, and I have a hard time trusting trans people now. Even though I know that it wasn’t their fault and they are just people trying to live their lives.
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1 watermark002 2019-06-24
So if your pretty your a woman? Ugly women are not women? Pretty traps are?
I'm pretty sure that no reasonable definition of transexuality contains a reference to how attractive they are. It is not the responsibility of women to make your dick hard, your perception of their attractiveness is an irrelevant subject. That your own emotional state, it is not the responsibility of anyone else to manage your emotional and irrational nature.
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1 D1zz1 2019-06-24
Trans people:
everyone else: ENRAGED SCREECHING LET ME TELL YOU EVERYTHING WRONG WITH YOU
lay the fuck off of us once in awhile im just tryna get through my shitty day like everyone else jeez
1 Mayos_side 2019-06-24
Shut up.
1 D1zz1 2019-06-24
Good point
1 Mayos_side 2019-06-24
ENRAGED SCREECHING
1 aqouta 2019-06-24
It's none of the letter tbh. Activism only accelerates louder despite progress and people lose sympathy for any group that gets what it wants and then moves the goal posts forward endlessly. This combined with woke corporatism turning activism into a vapid aestetic will kill any appeal to young people's interest. Nothing that mega corporations mandate will ever be cool.
1 watermark002 2019-06-24
Bigots will be bigots, they are responsible for their own feelings. It isn't my responsibility to manage your emotional and irrational feelings of hatred. Personally someone could spit in my face and kick me every day for 30 years and I wouldn't suddenly turn into a racist homophobe. Might want to take a look in the mirror in judging why you feel the way you do. This is not an issue that has any basis in reality, it is an issue that autogenerated from the psychological state of bigoted, emotional, intolerant, and irrational individuals.
1 life_in_inches_ 2019-06-24
See kids this is what 0 self worth sounds like.
1 aqouta 2019-06-24
We're not talking about responsibility, we're talking your self interest. Hell, I don't have animosity, I'm going to pride this weekend with LGBT friends. In fact pride is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. It's not a protest, it's a victory celebration. Pride won years ago(good for them), society is just negotiating the terms of the victory. None of the major milestones are on the table, we're just squabbling over fringe issues that hadn't been hashed out yet. LGBT won the culture war but they don't have carte blanc, becoming whiney bad winners that demand more than what we're the terms and pretend they haven't really won if they don't get every one of their wildest demands right now will endear no one to the cause.
The central example of a racist homophobe isn't "uncomfortable with the movement", they're aggressively opposed. More and more people are uncomfortable with the movement, more and more people are not going out and abusing LGBT people, there is a difference.
And how do you think I feel resident lolcow?
This means literally nothing.
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1 BurgerLaowai 2019-06-24
Obviously the newly added P.
Case in point: Drag Kids.
1 watermark002 2019-06-24
B I guess, because Bigots are the reason for the emotional bigotry that they feel. You are responsible for your own emotions.
1 ashleychudd 2019-06-24
When you’re defending children in drag performing a striptease for grown men people might think you’re a fucking freak.
1 RecallRethuglicans 2019-06-24
Judgmental much? Glad the Russian trolls still have work.
1 IHeartCommyMommy 2019-06-24
Tbh, if I was a Russian trying to destabilize the sociopolitical culture of the United States, having a 10 year old autistic boy preform burlesque dances in front of cheering grown men and then take pictures with one of with nothing but a sock over his dick backstage would be the thing I'm trying to promote.
I mean for fucks sake, Out magazine named this kid as a fuckin icon, I wonder if they're gonna be cool with that when he's dead of an OD at 16 while they get DNA samples of a grown man from the body, and the sad part is that's a genuine possibility at this point.
1 gfour 2019-06-24
Nah, that’s not a possibility actually. Because I guarantee you it happens when he’s 14.
1 trexmundi 2019-06-24
Could the constant, now utterly ubiquitous displays of horrible human behavior be at fault?
No. No. They're just nazis.
1 watermark002 2019-06-24
Yes anti trans bigots are Nazis, this is true. Every day they practice horrible and utterly evil things that would shock all sense of values and morality in their pursuit of hatred.
1 watermark002 2019-06-24
Hey, TheBigDogAteMyAss, i.e. the gay retard, I thought it was the trans who were responsible for everything? This guy seems to be concerned with increasing bigotry and hatred of gay people though. Awfully strange sense you've definitely made it, are totally safe, will never lose any rights, and the trans are responsible for everything, what you've decided to make your scapegoat for why bigotry against you has increased when bigotry against you totally is non-existent.
Fucking running dogs are worse than fash. Go lick more boot.
1 Ghdust2 2019-06-24
Stop serious posting 🙄
1 ImJustaBagofHammers 2019-06-24
Some of them have gone too far.
1 DiamondRumble 2019-06-24
IMO people should do what best suits them. You wanna suck dick? Cool. You wanna cut off your dick? Cool. I couldn't care less. Get married. Yeetus that fetus. Do drugs. Fuck a whore.
But be realistic for fuck sake. If you're a non passing trans don't even bother asking people to call you by whatever pronouns you prefer. That shit is literally skin deep.
And if you insist on making people call you by whatever pronoun the unrealistic vision you have in your head is, I'm going to be polite upon first meeting you and then I'll intentionally never talk to you again. It seems a lot of people feel the same way.
So when so many people avoid people with this shit as hard as they would a schizo (interestingly, there's a high crossover between the two), it's no wonder they get depressed. It must be such a lonely life and it doesn't take a genius to see why the suicide rate is so high.
1 watermark002 2019-06-24
If being a transwoman is real why would it have anything at all to do with whether or not they're attractive. That's other people, medicine has never in history worried about other people. Denying someone a treatment for a condition you acknowledge exists because you don't think they would wind up getting many dicks hard would be unethical in the extreme.
Besides if you disagree with the scientific and evidence based medical consensus on transwomen and transmen, I seriously doubt it matters whether or not they pass. Their passing is, again, not a relevant subject. This is not cosmetic surgery.
1 jubbergun 2019-06-24
Because women are only useful for one thing and no one wants to do that one with an ugly one?
1 200iqBigBrain 2019-06-24
Ugliness has no effect on fertility.
1 jubbergun 2019-06-24
As if having children is useful. The only thing women are useful for is sex, and a lot of them aren't even useful for that. Being ugly makes you unfuckable. It's like being a toaster in a world without bread. No one is ever going to stick anything in you.
1 DiamondRumble 2019-06-24
'aggression and hatred' lol
Why do people like you think 'you're either with us or against us'? (and before you start typing 'you people???' I mean CTH retards)
I don't hate trans people. I just don't care about them. When someone looks and sounds like a man, people are going to assume they're a man, regardless of what their sex assignment was.
If you ask me to call you something when visually you're not, you're asking me to care, even just a little. Ok, no problem, I'll call you whatever gender you want.
I've never been mean or have even given a dirty look to trans co-workers or friends of friends because I don't care enough to. Why would I? Live your life how you want. But I'm not going to include you in mine.
BTW, by 'skin deep' I meant that's how looks and first impressions are. If you look and sound like a man, then you're a man 'skin deep'. When you first talk to someone they're going to assume you're either a man or a woman. Regardless of whether or not you're trans.
If you can still call me a bigot then you're going to find the vast majority of the world is bigoted under the wide definition you have of the word. Sorry we don't fit your world view, I guess?
1 watermark002 2019-06-24
Some bigots have indeed gone too far, I definitely agree. Hopefully we hold bigots appropriately responsible, they are responsible for their own emotions, no one else is.
1 ManBearFridge 2019-06-24
Another round of Zoomer or Boomer
1 Seattle_Bussy_Lmao 2019-06-24
Do they own a flashlight?
Yes?
Boomer.
1 ExilesReturn 2019-06-24
Well, forgive me for wanting to be prepared during an emergency.
1 texanapocalypse33 2019-06-24
Or the race war
1 ExilesReturn 2019-06-24
Yes, texanaplocalypse69blazeit, or the race war. Thank you for the input.
1 gfour 2019-06-24
The wily zoomer hopes, nay, prays, for an extinction event. Wanting to survive an apocalypse is boomerism distilled.
1 ExilesReturn 2019-06-24
Smh, anything to avoid responsibility.
1 aqouta 2019-06-24
If you have a phone you have a flashlight grandpa.
1 Seattle_Bussy_Lmao 2019-06-24
That was the joke, billy
1 Slump_o 2019-06-24
women being less tolerant is certainly a surprise to me
1 BasedJebCel 2019-06-24
Probably because of the idea of MtF transsexuals "invading female spaces" if r/GenderCritical is anything to go by
1 Rusty_Ice 2019-06-24
What pissed them off is transcels triggering femcels by demanding their dick being sucked.
1 BasedJebCel 2019-06-24
I've seen some thread linked on here where a lesbian was complaining about how many "trans lesbians" (still with dicks) are on dating apps and got called a TERF or whatever. Must be annoying.
1 Rusty_Ice 2019-06-24
It is.
When I said that mentally ill shouldn't be supported, as in left alone to let their illness freely progress till it becomes a mass hysteria, everyone laughed and called me bigot incel.
You did this to yourselves.
1 BasedJebCel 2019-06-24
Do you even browse Reddit brah?
1 Rusty_Ice 2019-06-24
I had autism before reddit but nobody complained about catching my retardation so what's your point?
1 BasedJebCel 2019-06-24
Well I caught autism (or it was exacerbated) by being on r/drama so there
1 watermark002 2019-06-24
Bigotry is indeed a contagious mental illness. Unlike being Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, or Transexual, bigotry is a choice. Thus it must be suppressed. Only bigots are responsible for their bigotry. You are guilty. Transwomen are innocent.
1 dramasexual 2019-06-24
It's at the point where it's actually impossible to find an actual lesbian woman on a dating app. And the dudes are sending disgusting shit to your inbox constantly. Annoying doesn't begin to cover it.
1 watermark002 2019-06-24
99% of them are probably straight men but yeah let's be a good running dog and just insert ourselves into this conversation as if this is something that can really be blamed on transwomen. Just because your a freaking coward and are afraid of getting downvotes.
Again, being LGBT is not a crime, they are innocent, thus any feelings of hatred towards them are an unjustified aggression. Bigots are always guilty, LGBT are largely innocent. This is very simple.
1 dramasexual 2019-06-24
Fam, this is word salad. Have you been taking your antipsychotics?
1 LightUmbra 2019-06-24
You shouldn't have been a woman in the first place. This is your fault. Deal with it.
1 dramasexual 2019-06-24
GOOD point
1 D1zz1 2019-06-24
Um... This hasn't been my experience at all? ...Are you actually a lesbian trying lesbian dating apps? Because where I'm at there are tons of cis lesbians I maybe see 1 trans girl out of 100. Maybe you're doing something wrong...
1 dramasexual 2019-06-24
I could tell from your wording that you were a tranny and lo and behold, I check your profile and...
Yes, I am actually a lesbian using lesbian dating apps. Dudes be tryna explain the lesbian experience to me smdh
1 D1zz1 2019-06-24
Whatever u say lol all I'm saying is I haven't had any trouble you might wanna rethink your approach.
1 dramasexual 2019-06-24
You aren't having trouble because you are a man. All the straight women on dating apps want your penis. This is not at all similar to how the lesbian scene is.
1 D1zz1 2019-06-24
So all the lesbians I talk to on Her, the lesbian dating app and the only one I use, are secretly straight? That's amazing thanks for opening my eyes!
1 dramasexual 2019-06-24
Yes, lmao. Lots of straight women LARP as "queer" or "lesbian" because it's a trendy woke thing. This is part of why it's so hard to find an actual lesbian to date, because the field is overwhelmed with these woke moron straight chicks. And any woman willing to entertain you romantically is, by definition, not a lesbian. So yes, all the straight women want your penis, because you are a man.
Jesus christ the basic shit I have to explain to people.
1 D1zz1 2019-06-24
Yeah cause they can see my penis when they message me lol... More likely the average lesbian just isn't a bigot. Good luck with that
1 dramasexual 2019-06-24
You have pictures on your profile, dude. You don't pass. They might as well be staring right into your penis, because it's obvious you're a guy. Straight LARPers also love MtFs because they can use you guys for woke points, but since you're men they aren't totally disgusted by you sexually.
Again, these people are not lesbians. Zero percent of lesbians are interested in you.
errtime
1 D1zz1 2019-06-24
Oh dear you've attacked my appearance! I could never have seen such a thing coming! Truly the tactic of the correct!
It was a struggle once, but I'm good with the way I look. You're searching for cheap shots to take to justify your absolutely wild assertion that a significant portion of lesbians are actually straight girls pretending to be gay because "it's trendy." Clearly you've cracked the conspiracy!
I could be an asshole and say something like you've come up with that to cope with your lack of dating success for certain reasons but I won't stoop to your level. I'm sure you're a beautiful person and I genuinely wish you all the best in your romantic life and otherwise.
1 dramasexual 2019-06-24
It's not a cheap shot. That's kind of the thing. It's a discussion about the reality of the situation. You do not look like a woman. It's not an attack, it's a statement of fact. I guarantee you everyone who sees you knows you're a man. Thus, people who want to date you are attracted to men. They may or may not also be attracted to women, but none of them are lesbians, because lesbians aren't into men.
Being trans, you probably don't like dealing with material reality, but it is what it is. Pretending it's not there doesn't make it go away. Really wanting to be a woman doesn't make you one.
And I'm not surprised you don't know anything about lesbians or the lesbian community. Men rarely do, and in their arrogance, refuse to learn. It's pretty classic misogyny. We've known about and hated these fake lesbians since before you were born. They're more common now, of course, but it's the same as it always was. None of this is new.
No, you don't. Reality, buddy. Let's stick to what's actually true.
1 D1zz1 2019-06-24
The fact that you can't fathom someone meeting your hate with kindness says a lot about you. At this point you're just devolving into attacking my appearance and my identity here, and I could sit here and pretend I'm enjoying your clearly growing anger as is the fashion, but I honestly just feel a bit sorry for you and thats making me sad. Have a good night
1 Mayos_side 2019-06-24
Seething.
1 D1zz1 2019-06-24
If you say so
1 Mayos_side 2019-06-24
Yesss finally got that Confused White Male seal of approval after all these years.
1 dramasexual 2019-06-24
It's not an attempt at kindness. It's a disingenuous display of self-congratulatory smarm. The "I feel so sorry for you" is an extension of it. It's like a white-belt-tier attempt at manipulation and you need to be at least like a brown belt to come close to making a dent here. Step up your game, fam.
lmfao, I love you guys
1 D1zz1 2019-06-24
Lol ok
1 dramasexual 2019-06-24
Ummmm, sweaty, /r/drama's autism is legendary. You need to take several seats and recognize when you're surrounded.
1 Mayos_side 2019-06-24
Allah approved.
1 D1zz1 2019-06-24
Omg wait are you being genuine? This is actually cringe now
1 Mayos_side 2019-06-24
Buddy you should hang out more and have some fun.
1 dramasexual 2019-06-24
homeslice needs to learn how to lurk
1 D1zz1 2019-06-24
Looking forward to it :)
1 Mayos_side 2019-06-24
First major life choice you won't regret in 5 years.
1 dramasexual 2019-06-24
asking if I'm being genuine
on THIS post
this is why all those retarded circlejerk subs insist everyone needs to use a /s or that fucking /uj /rj autism. they're filled with morons like this.
1 D1zz1 2019-06-24
Ok thank god cause alter the diction and you're basically saying mY aRgUmEnT TaCtIcS aRe SuPeRiOr which would just be uncomfortable
1 dramasexual 2019-06-24
I mean they are superior because I'm only /r/drama-tier retarded and not whatever the fuck echelon of cognitive disability you're on, but that's not saying much.
1 D1zz1 2019-06-24
Hey I never took time out of my life to insist to people on the internet that I'm cognitively superior, so I have no foundation to disagree
1 dramasexual 2019-06-24
u need to learn how to assimilate, my duder
1 D1zz1 2019-06-24
Only if I get a hat
1 femroot 2019-06-24
I've heard the HER app is especially bad for this, guess I could go to tinder but that's lesbian ghosting central
1 dramasexual 2019-06-24
Yeah HER is all trannies and straight LARPers. OKCupid used to be okay but not so much anymore. It's very self-reinforcing, because actual lesbians won't join OKC or HER because of this so it's literally only trannies and straight chicks.
I remember somebody was working on one that was real women only but idk if that got off the ground.
1 femroot 2019-06-24
Yeah I think it was the lez app but it seems to have disappeared. It's sad really because lesbian bars have all but gone too. You're right about the self-reinforcing cycle, though OKC might be an option but I guess not. It's weird that straight women are also on those apps though.
1 watermark002 2019-06-24
You saw it on /r/gendercritical, it was fake and made up by a bigot who needs treatment for mental illness.
1 Trans_Sexual_Weiner 2019-06-24
society labors under the "women are wonderful" effect,for some reason we think women are all inherently good people. you can see it on reddit alot, express a negative or assholish opinion, you get "you obviously don't get laid !!", because women are all ultra moral perfect beings and you can't fuck them unless you're a good person, apparently.
1 Whaddaulookinat 2019-06-24
The the idea that women are naturally good is so patronising. Yet, since it's easily digestible it remains
1 FieryShits 2019-06-24
I think it also in part comes from an idea that women are to be protected, and so we can't just outright call their actions stupid, as if they don't put any thought into their ideas.
1 Whaddaulookinat 2019-06-24
Indeed. But, for some unknown reason, our society (being the US) only negates personal mandates for well off white women in threat regard. Like, come on they ain't children unaware of second level reasoning.
1 gfour 2019-06-24
Women will go along with it because why not let everyone believe you’re perfect and retard men will go along with it because it gives them hope that if they retweet the right opinions enough it’ll get them laid
1 Whaddaulookinat 2019-06-24
I think it's deeper. The absolute need for there to be absolute purity in a wide swath of people that we just decided to be women. It goes back to the ideal of the porcelain mother from Victorian mores.
In reality men/women/etc are capable of immense beauty and absolute horrific natures. We be complicated apes yo.
1 Slump_o 2019-06-24
all girls i know irl are very PC
1 VicisSubsisto 2019-06-24
Really? Most Mac users I know are girls.
1 dramasexual 2019-06-24
When you get burly straight men helicoptering their dicks in the women's room and being allowed to do so bc they claim they're really women inside, women stop liking the people that support that ideology.
1 Coonass_alt 2019-06-24
honestly the kid dancing like a stipper at the gay bar, and then gays defending it made me kind of absurdist.
1 goofylookinghomo 2019-06-24
that made me more of a homicidal-ist honestly
1 Matues49 2019-06-24
Honestly, I doubt foids care about that. They had no issues pimping out their 9yos on child beauty pageants. They are more likely just salty about troons.
1 Coonass_alt 2019-06-24
why do people not get the difference between sad moms reliving their glory days by torturing their kids with beauty pageants and grown, drunk men throwing dollar bills at a kid wearing skimpy clothing dancing like a stipper on the stage of a club
1 Matues49 2019-06-24
Have you seen child beauty pageants? Mayo stage moms may live their lives through their tweens, but the final product is 90% pedo fap fodder. At least the people who put that kid in drag are upfront about their degeneracy.
1 Benislet 2019-06-24
1st: burgers were a mistake
2nd: all of these kids are ugly as fuck
1 gfour 2019-06-24
Well they are all poor peoples kids lol
1 Benislet 2019-06-24
True, I forgot.
1 vtesterlwg 2019-06-24
beauty pagents should be bombed like syria
1 -Mopsus- 2019-06-24
back when there was buzz about pedos using youtube to jerk of to children, somebody posted elsewhere on reddit about the child/teen modeling part of instagram.
it's parents posting pictures of their daughters in bikinis, leotards, dance wear, etc., and like 90% of their followers and comments are adult men. it's incredibly fucked up, because the parents have to be fully aware that their main audience is pedophile men.
so they knowingly exploit their own children to get brand deals with companies that don't realize 90% of their followers are adult pedophiles uninterested in their product
1 911roofer 2019-06-24
The corporations are the only innocent ones in this sordid affair. That's unusual.
1 ScroblertMoblert 2019-06-24
Reminder that Converse, and by extension Nike, have openly condoned this.
1 watermark002 2019-06-24
That's not why people are less tolerant of gay people. People are less tolerant of gay people because they've grown more right wing and bigoted. They are responsible for their own bigotry, the target of their bigotry are innocent, only the bigots are guilty and can be held at fault using reason.
1 Matues49 2019-06-24
This is about trannies isn't it
1 200iqBigBrain 2019-06-24
everything is these days.
1 watermark002 2019-06-24
Bigotry doesn't matter if the minority is too small. Literally we must cater to the emotions of bigots at all times, soothe their ego and tell them it's alright, they totally are not responsible for their bigotry and it is someone else's fault for the hatred and aggression they display towards innocents.
1 gfour 2019-06-24
Because troons are terminally online and organize over on discord so they have insane control over targeted online rage mobs
1 boyoyoyoyong 2019-06-24
One step closer to right wing death squads we were promised
1 MalthusianDick 2019-06-24
That's what happens when you don't give them a discount at gay bars
1 ironicshitpostr 2019-06-24
Revenge of the faghags
1 ApplemanGod 2019-06-24
Imagine if your wife fucking left you for a goddamn bee. Like jesus christ they only live for 30 full days that's not even enough time to develop a good relationship. If you ask me my man Ken dodged a bullet right there. That fucking bee even got his wife involved in a court case, the fucking manipulative psychopath. And for what even, fucking honey?? Its a healthy nutritious product and the bees don't even get hurt when they collect it. In fact they get a free fucking hive in a protected area for fuck sake . And besides after they ban honey collection what do you think will happen to those bees in the hives huh? That's right the fucking honeybee holocaust. Do they think the beekeepers will just keep those little fuckers for fun?? Hell no they'll get exterminated at speeds unbeknownst to man. That will then cause all the other fucking plants to die because you know pollens and shit and then that's it for us too. The end of the world as we know it. All because some horny bitch wanted some fancy jazz listening bee dick. I say fuck her man, i hope Ken is doing well for himself that man deserves it.
1 -Kite-Man- 2019-06-24
Who's Ken?
1 jubbergun 2019-06-24
She's the one that wants to "talk to your manager."
1 Benislet 2019-06-24
Seriously, 'non-binary' is the most retarded thing I ever heard. Gay, lesbian, bi, trans, whatever. But your adhd is not a gender, sweaty.
1 lolcows63 2019-06-24
I'll at Queer to the mix how can you not be LGBT and somehow be queer
1 e-guy 2019-06-24
>queer
1 _Suprememe_ 2019-06-24
If blue check Twitter is any indication Queer is some kind of oppression point subsidy available to sufficiently woke straights.
1 KanyeetWeebs 2019-06-24
It's a good way for people to identify themselves as entitled and disrespectful of others comfort. I'm glad that there's some push back on actually heralding these "folx" as brave and courageous.
1 GaysianSupremacist 2019-06-24
As if folks are not gender-neutral
1 watermark002 2019-06-24
So your argument consists of feeling that their beliefs are retarded. This argument is irrational, it consists of nothing but your personal emotions. Ignoring. As for your mental state, undoubtedly your motivations for making this argument come from your own bigotry.
1 Benislet 2019-06-24
My argument comes from FACTS and LOGIC. You cant feel non-binary. NEXT!
1 PlebbitBronzeUser 2019-06-24
Based and Zoomer-pilled.
1 AugustinesBitchBoy 2019-06-24
Generation Zyklon
1 Slump_o 2019-06-24
omega cope3
1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-06-24
Has this been posted elsewhere on Reddit. I’d love to see the comments.
1 200iqBigBrain 2019-06-24
you can't expect a story people don't want to hear to gain any traction
1 cfbWORKING 2019-06-24
Russians are poisoning our with right wing propaganda
1 Woolgun 2019-06-24
Scroll to the top of the post, right above the post title, there's "other discussions" tab.
1 contentedserf 2019-06-24
I’ll post it on r/news, can sometimes get a good variety of responses there
1 watermark002 2019-06-24
By a "good variety of responses", you mean /r/the_donald squeezed out of a tube. "Diversity of opinion" means a right wing monoculture to rightists such as yourself. The existence of the left isn't tolerated.
1 BIknkbtKitNwniS 2019-06-24
Hot take: People aren't getting less tolerant; the standards for what is considered tolerant are changing.
10 years ago "I don't give a shit if you're gay just leave me out of it" was considered a tolerant opinion.
5 years ago "okay I'll call you by whatever pronouns you prefer because it doesn't cost me anything but that doesn't mean you are literally, factually, actually, in reality a woman" was considered a tolerant opinion.
Now these are considered pretty homophobic and transphobic.
1 Protista_of_Peace 2019-06-24
Always a good idea to double down on whatever retardation currently isn't working.
1 Pepperglue 2019-06-24
Am I out of touch? No, it's the young people that are wrong.
1 Slump_o 2019-06-24
Young people overwhelmingly support the democratic party. Time to cancel elections?
1 Pepperglue 2019-06-24
Cancel it. It only serves the liberals/conservatives agenda until we can get young people to support us.
1 -Kite-Man- 2019-06-24
The non conformity of the new majority
1 Protista_of_Peace 2019-06-24
Having the schools teach acceptance is great but is also going to have the effect of kids not thinking that accepting gender non-conformity is rebellious anymore. There's always going to be groups of kids who reject whatever the squares are telling them to think. I think this is a part of it anyway.
1 watermark002 2019-06-24
No minority in history has ever gotten anything by modifying their behavior in response to the feelings and emotions of bigots. It is not their responsibility to reduce the irrational bigotry others have decided to display towards them after hearing nothing about them besides conduct that is lawful and innocent (being LGBT). LGBT are innocent, bigots are guilty. Their bigotry comes from themselves, no one else has any responsibility at all for it.
1 Protista_of_Peace 2019-06-24
1 jubbergun 2019-06-24
As is tradition...
1 femroot 2019-06-24
I get why, even being the L myself the modern lgbt movement is a minefield
We are bound to see the effects catching up with us sooner or later. The fact that people like JY can essentially get away with all of this is concerning.
1 contentedserf 2019-06-24
https://www.yourtango.com/2019325316/how-transgender-women-of-color-led-gay-liberation-moveent-stonewall-riots-lgbtqia-pride-meaning
I’m sure articles like this don’t help unity
1 femroot 2019-06-24
yeah they don't really, pink news especially do this kinda thing. At the same time, it's hard to be unified when those who are same-sex attracted and those that trans may have different and conflicting goals.
1 watermark002 2019-06-24
You really think you're gaining something by throwing transwomen under the bus. This bigotry against transwomen that demagogues have stoked also results in bigotry against gays and lesbians. Your attempt to use transwomen as a scapegoat to avoid persecution is pathetic. Go lick boot.
1 femroot 2019-06-24
oh hey watermark
We may have different goals but I believe all minorities deserve the right to be free from discrimination in healthcare, employment and housing that doesn't change.
1 watermark002 2019-06-24
That's not the cause. Bigots are responsible for their own feelings. No one else is responsible for them.
1 saint2e 2019-06-24
I'm sure this trend will get as much coverage as the ever-present incel threat.
1 Woolgun 2019-06-24
This is hardly just trannies. It's a combination of various things, tacking polyamory, anticapitalism, kinks, and other bullshit onto the movement, as well as replacing well adjusted LGBT people who used to lead the discourse with lunatics turns people off. On top of that what's considered "tolerant" has shifted.
1 missmurrr 2019-06-24
COPE
1 200iqBigBrain 2019-06-24
Transgender people are way more likely to bite into that woke anticapitalist insanity tbh. Or at least the trans people you're likely to see, which isn't good for such a small minority.
1 VanillaReign 2019-06-24
Alright, I've officially spent too much time on /r/drama. I swear I thought that title said "The young are retarded" and I immediately agreed.
1 200iqBigBrain 2019-06-24
imagine being retarded enough not to tolerate trans kweenz
1 Anagalbroke2 2019-06-24
Uh huh...
1 Al_ButteredToast 2019-06-24
🌈🌈🌈
1 aqouta 2019-06-24
That's not what tolerance means. The survey didn't ask if they were unwilling to interact with lgbtq people, it asked if they were uncomfortable with them. You can't be intolerant of a group that doesn't make you uncomfortable.
1 watermark002 2019-06-24
When has tolerance ever meant a total unwillingness to participate in any social interaction. Masters often communicated with their slaves, was that tolerance? Again total irrationality. Let's focus on the bigots, not what they are bigoted against. Stop enabling bigotry by assuming that someone else is responsible for their hatred and aggression. Bigotry by definition means they're holding people responsible using a criterion that is lawful and legitimate. Bigotry always involves oppression of the innocent.
1 aqouta 2019-06-24
Tolerance means not discriminating against people whom you don't like. I can't be tolerant of gay people because I don't dislike gay people, I don't get to pat myself on the back for not discriminating against people whom I have no impulse to discriminate again. For instance, you can tolerate bigots but clearly choose not to. Tolerance is not a universal good, you shouldn't be tolerant of people who are trying to harm you, that's just a lack of self preservation. To quote a better author than I:
-https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/
Masters discriminated against their slaves. They both didn't like their slaves and treated them differently because of that dislike.
who's talking about bigotry?
1 LongPostBot 2019-06-24
Have you owned the libs yet?
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1 aqouta 2019-06-24
I am perpetually self owned by my own radical centrism. Gays should have the right to perform conversion therapy on eachother.
1 Neon_needles 2019-06-24
I unironically blame this all on annoying internet mtf tranny. Ya'll cool MTFs online need to clean house and distance.
1 Slump_o 2019-06-24
bruh
1 dramasexual 2019-06-24
It's the troons, man. Even the LGBs don't like em
1 watermark002 2019-06-24
Numerous comments in this thread that assume the bigots are correct (just assume their premise without argument, very galaxy brain thing to do), point out things that apply to gays and lesbians. But yeah your totally fine and shouldn't worry and you can escape all of this by throwing transwomen under the bus like a weak cuck. After they supported you for decades without hesitation, once you think you've arrived and are in the club with the other oppressors, you immediately discard. Disgusting. Running dogs make me sick.
1 Mayos_side 2019-06-24
So like, who cares?
1 dramasexual 2019-06-24
The troons are a much bigger threat than the "fascists."
1 GaysianSupremacist 2019-06-24
Women are in general, has a natural fear of men. So I wouldn't be surprised that “men transition into women” invoke discomfort in women.
1 ham-samwich 2019-06-24
time for a terf war bois
1 VegetableMarketing7 2019-06-24
ADMG
1 MrGameBoy234 2019-06-24
i dont mean to sound rude or anything, but maybe its because of the few radicals in the community that give it a bad name? (those people that brag about it and think their entire life revolve around their sexuality)
1 watermark002 2019-06-24
Stop enabling bigots by assuming their premise is correct and finding justifications for it. When trying to see who to hold responsible for bigotry, look at the bigot, not the target of their hatred. That is the cause. Their decision to obsessively indulge in hateful propaganda to the point that they've brainwashed themselves and are not capable of rational thought anymore.
1 Mayos_side 2019-06-24
Or blame the retards with a dingly dogleg sticking out their dress acting the fool.
1 200iqBigBrain 2019-06-24
yes, the problem is most of those radicals fall into the T side, which has a small representation already, so that's basically all anyone sees of them. I genuinely sympathize with the transgender people who aren't larping nutjobs who want to overthrow the ciscapitalistpatriarchy
1 vtesterlwg 2019-06-24
my hard internet shill work is paying off
1 ctty1334 2019-06-24
Everyone in this post is a bigot. When the Trans Jihad begins you will all be forced to have sex change operations. Praise Ru Paul.
1 200iqBigBrain 2019-06-24
hot
1 collapse_turtle 2019-06-24
white bitches
1 jubbergun 2019-06-24
I like how this article implies that if you're not constantly bullying people into accepting certain social/social justice movements they're not going to buy into them.
So if you allow people to make up their own mind without pressuring them they're less likely to support gays and trannies. I wonder if anyone else will pick up on that hot take and give USA Today a ration of shit for it?
1 liquidtension 2019-06-24
Holy shit this post gave watermark002 PTSD