"More than two dozen shelter cats mauled to death after pitbulls break out of cage" Thanks r/Drama this what happens when you catpost

402  2019-07-26 by ChaosMarine123

360 comments

the cats you mean

No, that’s definitely referring to the breed of peace

cats fuckin cats

lmao dae [()chapo ()daddy (X)pitbulls ()commie mommy ()foids]

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Pitbulls are a menace, just like Westbrook is going to be to the rockets 3pt %

Are you black or something? Why do you think fathers don't exist?

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How dare you 😡 these poor pibbles were just trying to save the shelter from euthanasia costs. These sweet doggos are so misunderstood 😭

Look how happy they are

They are nanny dogs obv they just want to protect babies from these scary cats.

Protection of their food source is vital.

Pibble doing Petas job! 😍

Thanks Mr Pibble! 😙🤝🐶

I bet they look even happier with cat blood on them

"Ready when you are, Sgt Pembry"

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Nah. This shit happens all the time. Shelter people are weirdos at this point and pathologically dog (pibble) obsessed. They just had to report it because it was too many.

the fact that pibbles kill cats is the only reason that i hate them so much. why would you keep an animal that has a tendency towards harming other pets even if they're the 'sweetest ever' with people?

Because they don’t care, and deep down a lot of them like that. Cats are one thing, but other types of dog will kill cats as well. The thing with Pits is that they usually prefer to kill other dogs, which is why so many are starting to hate them.

Hate to say it, but at least the cats die quickly. Seeing them mutilate a dog, a creature they are supposed to share a language and trait of deescalation with is rough.

Not to mention the goats, sheep, alpacas, and ponies. In some areas loose pits kill more livestock than coyotes ever did.

https://www.facebook.com/pitbullskilledmypet/

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The thing is, if people were a lot more responsible, it wouldn't happen. People shouldn't keep their goats and stuff outside. Plus, the weather I'd bad for them.

KIDDING.

If people would get their dogs spaded/neutered there would be less that people would let loose. Some people aren't good dog owners in general. And a lot of these aren't even "pitbulls". Pitbull is not a breed. There is American Pitbull Terriers, then the off Staffordshire Terrier. They are commonly called the same thing. I mean, staff's don't even have "Pitbull" in their name, but just look similar.

Many argue that all bull-terriers are pitbulls, I'm not sure I know enough about the history of them to agree but I do know that the difference in name comes from an attempt to keep renaming the breed to separate them from their negative past.

There's no conspiracy to make pitbulls hated, they're hated because they're violent dogs and always have been.

They are not. There is

American Pitbull Terrier (the best kind, if you ask me) Staffordshire Terrier Bull Terrier Yorkshire Terrier

just to name a few.

It's not a conspiracy it's a fact. They can be violent dogs. Everything single APBT of the many thousands there are are not killers. Most are your actual, loving dog. I may try to hop back on imgur and try to find the cute picture. There are plenty on Google though.

did you mean to put yorkshire terrier in your comment?

What do you mean?

yorkies are not bull terriers, they're a purebred terrier breed, you only get a bull terrier by cross breeding.

They are a terrier. Mr cat rules dude was saying all terriers.

FYI APBT are purebred.

but you got them from crossing a bulldog with a terrier a long time ago, you got yorkies from selectively breeding for specific traits, it's two different kinds of breeding. do you know anything about breeding?

Actually, yes. Know several people that own decent sized kennels.

Clicked the link. The story by Sara Jane Smith looks exaggerated and plus they were "American Bullies", not 'pitbulls'. They are prone to things like that. They aren't as big as she was describing either. And it was the nephew, not the owner. They may be controlled under the owner. The dogs weren't outright attacking her; they were trying to the little dogs through her. She said it was life and death for her. She may have been scared out of her mind but (as corny as this sounds) if dogs wanted her dead she would be severely physically injured.

The nephew could've been more responsible by having a breaking stick. He should've known what the dogs are capable of and what can happen at a dog park. And unless the dog park was empty, why did he put them in there... They just tried getting to her dogs... Why would they be okay with non-Chihuahuas?

but other types of dog will kill cats as well.

I hate those too

The thing with Pits is that they usually prefer to kill other dogs, which is why so many are starting to hate them.

Even if that is true, they maul a disproportionate amount of cats and livestock compared to other dogs. It sucks that they kill dogs too but as a cat lady i don't really care

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Well you’re pregnant so soon enough you’ll have to be on guard for a pibble delicacy.

People who turn their dogs loose should be hung.

I mean, thats what kill shelters are for.

We should put the people in kill shelters? Doesn't that seem a little extreme?

We already do that -- depending on your state.

Oof, you killed my joke

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Not to mention the goats, sheep, alpacas, and ponies. In some areas loose pits kill more livestock than coyotes ever did.

Damn, that's interesting. We almost drove them to extinction over that.

Because sometimes they're in different rooms, and when they're not they're still separated. Normally this doesn't happen (or they would have a different way of separating)

Can't blame an animal for it's instincts. A lion will kill a person if we invade it's territory. Should we then kill all lions? No. We keep people away from lions. Same with APBT (and usually dogs in general) and cats. Unless the dog is really chill or they were raised together, they will probably attack the cat. Just how dogs chase squirrels. It's only because commonly keep cats as pets that we find it so disturbing. Plus, a lot of people find squirrels as pests. So yeah. There ya go.

Can't blame an animal for it's instincts.

Don't tell me what to do

(How was I telling you what to do. I didn't say "Don't".)

Go do a triple summersault double backflip into a fish bowl that you are holding.

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We didn't breed lions into existence. Pit bulls are an unnaturally aggressive animal that humans created, so humans should do the right thing and eradicate them

Eradicate them.

You blatantly misunderstand the breed, as many others do. Unfortunately, some people don't raise dogs right. That's a fact.

Chihuahua is the number one biter, follow but Shi Tzu's. If that has changed let me know. Most any dog, unless raised with it, will attack it. We created chihuahuas, should we eradicate them as well? Or is it just because they didn't happen to kill some cats or don't make the news?

You know how APBT are banned in most of UK? If they're so bad for a whole country to ban them, Patrick (forgot his last name) who is the star actor in "Star Trek: Picard" wouldn't be advocating for them and even featuring one in the movie. Any dog can be a biter, a killer. Should we just eradicate all dogs? Why don't we do it with cats as well. They bite. They've killed babies. They are more difficult to train.

God damn you're a fucking retard. You can't see the difference between a Chihuahua bite and a pitbull bite? How many kids have been killed by a shi Tzu the past decade? Now run that number with your little pibble nanny dog. Pit bulls are a menace, one that nature didn't create. All pitbull should be euthanized, there is no use for them other than insecure fuckwads to feel tough walking their baby muncher down the street. The only evidence I've seen of cats killing babies are the very rare cases of a cat laying on the kid and acxidently suffocating it. A lot different than being ripped limb from limb you worthless retard

. You can't see the difference between a Chihuahua bite and a pitbull bite? Chihuahua's have ripped of fingers all the same.

How many kids have been killed by a shi Tzu the past decade? Granted few, if any. How many by APBT? More. But still few compared to population.

Pit bulls are a menace, one that nature didn't create. You're the menace. Killing off a whole species due to some bad blood, misconception, and bad owners. Granted, nature created black people but statistically there are more African-Americans committing violent crimes than Caucasian, Hispanic, or others. Should we kill off the millions of black people as well? If trained and taken care of properly (as with any dog), APBT are kind, loving dogs. They will protect your family if the need arises. I remember a pregnant female that potentially saved the family's life. Guy broke in, shot her twice in the head but she still managed to take him down. They found him in a hospital. Dog was fine, much to your disappointment I'm sure.

All pitbull should be euthanized, there is no use for them other than for insecure fuckwads to feel tough walking their baby muncher down the street. No, they should not, and that would never happen. Places such as the ADBA (and even ASPCA, etc) would likely see to their safety. There are idiots who I have seen that have bullies (forgive me) and some gang members and such that have them for that exact reason: to try and look tough. Most true American Pitbull Terrier owners and dogs I have met have been just like any other good dog/owner. Amazing dog, great people.

The only evidence I've seen of cats killing babies are the very rare cases of a cat laying on the kid and acxidently suffocating it. I remember some things like that. But there have been instances where a cat has scratched up a baby for no particular reason. Just got mad at it. You have to remember that cats are loners typically.

A lot different than being ripped limb from limb you worthless retard Yes, it is. Find me an incident where a person was ripped limb from limb by a true American Pitbull Terrier, that was in good care, good owners, no diseases (such as rabies). It is unlikely that you will find many, if any at all.

Are you really comparing black people to an animal humans bred specifically to be violent? You're fucked up in the head and clearly a racist. You sound like a naive teenager, a really racist one at that. Reminder, the opinions of teenagers are irrelevant because you're children

Well, it's the best reference I can currently think of and it is the kind of comparison that seemed apt to your 'brain's' needs.

Not racist at all.

Nope.

Not at all irrelevant. We're people too. If you think people who are not 16/18/21 have no voice, tell that to the people making a difference. The one that comes to mind (only because she was on a news thing on my browser recently) is Greta Thunberg. And legally minors have voices as well.

You just don't want to be told incorrect or have your opinion challenged by someone younger than you.

Yah it's what your brain immediately thought of because you think black people are violent dogs your racist little shitheap. Of course you're a teenager, you're a fucking retard with worthless opinions.

This is what you gleefully support, but the pic probably makes you happy since you clearly hate black people

Sorry, don't care what a little racist that thinks black people are violent dogs has to say. You clearly are not a good person and will be living a detrimental life to those around yoy. Go post more about black crime statistics on a white supremacist sub, they will be your friends since they are all fucked in the head too

Killing off a whole species

I'd legit beat every single pitbull to death with a shovel if it was up to me.

Killing off a whole species due to some bad blood, misconception, and bad owners.

You are fully right. We should not only sterilise pitts but also their owners.

What is your problem?

You act like other breeds never do anything wrong, nor their owners. Why don't you just kill all dogs then. There's always a chance they could bite.

Cat poop can cause a lot of problems, kill them too. Cat owners often have too many and don't spay/nueter etc. Kill them off.

What is your problem?

I am not an hatefull monster proud of the death of hundreds of innocent children because muh pit.

You act like other breeds never do anything wrong, nor their owners. Why don't you just kill all dogs then. There's always a chance they could bite.

What make you think I am against that ?

Cat poop can cause a lot of problems

Only if you touch it, which unless you are a scatfag you don't. And if you are into bestiality scat, you definitely need to suffer, so that's not an issue.

Hundreds of death of what children? Prove it. In 12 years, "Pitbulls" killed 284 people. I bet maybe, just maybe, 15% were children.

Oh.

NO! Being nearby also.

In 12 years, "Pitbulls" killed 284 people. I bet maybe, just maybe, 15% were children.

Holy fuck you believe that is a good look. "Just" 284 dead.

But here :

https://www.fatalpitbullattacks.com/children-killed-by-pit-bulls.php

At least 230 children dead since 1980.

You are, unironically, unshipostingly a monster. Someone who is truly evil.

230 in 39 years.

What about major fighting dogs that after fighting went home to their home. A family. I think 2 or 3 kids. Just as kind as can be.

230 in 39 years.

The vast majority in 18 years, as :

The number of U.S. children killed by a pit bull since 1998, when the CDC stopped tracking breed data.

But do you unironically believe that 10 innocent babies death per year is acceptable ?


What about major fighting dogs that after fighting went home to their home. A family. I think 2 or 3 kids. Just as kind as can be.

You have got to be a troll. Nobody is that much of a monster to unironically defend that instead of being euthanasied, violent dogs should go in a familly with kids.

It's not, but kill a whole breed over it? Plus, how many dogs with how many babies are there that there are no problems with. There were several APBT in the house and then a personal pet that always protected me.

I am not. I forget the dog's name now but this was back in the grayscale dog fighting days. I think "Golden" was in the name.

It's not, but kill a whole breed over it?

Yes. Yes, we should kill a whole breed on it. The same way we should ban automatics guns killings tons of innocents kids.

Plus, how many dogs with how many babies are there that there are no problems with.

I am sure it's gonna make the dead kids very happy to know that other kids didn't get mauled to death.

I am not. I forget the dog's name now but this was back in the grayscale dog fighting days. I think "Golden" was in the name.

And he should have been euthanasied.

No, we should not. 95% of breeds have killed kids. Let's kill all dogs then. I agree with auto gun ban.

Killing off dogs won't bring them back.

No, not then. Fighting was okay and infant common in a lot of areas.

Let's kill all dogs then.

Yes. But first let's start with pitts, it would already save hundred of lives.

Killing off dogs won't bring them back.

No but it will prevent anymore dead.

Fighting was okay

Dog fighting never was okay.

First two: You're an idiot, man.

It was then. It was a legal sport.

First two: You're an idiot, man.

I might be an idiot, but at least I can proudly say I am not a monster.

It was then. It was a legal sport.

Legal=/=being morally okay. Slavery was legal, that doesn't mean it was okay.

Isn't the dog the monster? I mean you're trying to blame everything on it.

We don't find it okay now, no.

Isn't the dog the monster? I mean you're trying to blame everything on it.

The dog isn't a person and thus can't be considered responsible for its acts, no more than a gun can be considered a monster.

The monsters are the one putting children and pitts together.

We don't find it okay now, no.

Are you seriously arguing that slavery was okay ? Fucking racist shit.

Now the dog is innocent. Geez, pick a side.

No, slavery is not okay. I was talking about dog fighting. I don't think it's okay either. But back in those days, the majority of people deemed it okay. Now, we don't. 99% of people don't. I don't. You by the looks of it don't. We find it morally and ethically wrong.

Now the dog is innocent. Geez, pick a side.

Of course it's innocent. Doesn't mean it ain't dangerous. A knife is innocent, doesn't mean it won't hurt you if you stick it in yourself.

No, slavery is not okay. I was talking about dog fighting. I don't think it's okay either. But back in those days, the majority of people deemed it okay. Now, we don't. 99% of people don't. I don't. You by the looks of it don't. We find it morally and ethically wrong.

So was slavery. Moral relativism is bullshit. What is wrong is wrong regardless of the when.

Oh. My. So you're saying if people weren't so stupid the dog wouldn't be in such low regard?

Oh. My. So you're saying if people weren't so stupid the dog wouldn't be in such low regard?

No, if they weren't stupid, they would have exterminated the race a long time ago and this discussion wouldn't even happen.

Nevermind then lol.

No matter how intelligent a person might be, it won't save a children from getting mauled, lmao.

Yeah. If they properly train and take care of the dog, it will prevent a vast majority of them.

You can't train an aggressive predator out of attacking defenseless beings, lmao.

They're not always aggressive. If properly trained they are great pets. They don't kill everything in sight. Like you want to.

They're not always aggressive.

Of course they are, they are predators, you dumbass.

They don't kill everything in sight. Like you want to.

Oh, I don't have a pitt in sight, otherwise I would have called the SPA on it.

Unlike you I am not a monster believing we should let innocent children die because you put the existence of something meaningless like a breed of dog more valuable than kids lives.

Yes, they have a prey drive. But they can be trained.

May I ask what the SPA is?

HOW MANY CHILDREN DIE TO THINGS OTHER THAN DOGS? Thousands. A dozen kids die a year? Maybe?

Your precious cats have killed kids too.

May I ask what the SPA is?

Thing that caputre and kill animals found without a master.

HOW MANY CHILDREN DIE TO THINGS OTHER THAN DOGS? Thousands. A dozen kids die a year? Maybe?

HOW MANY CHILDREN DIE TO THING OTHER THAN GUNS ? We should put a gun in every classroom !!!!1!!!1!

Your stupid whataboutism is stupid.

Your precious cats have killed kids too.

No they haven't, lmao.

Let's not just educate people on safety around wild and domesticated animals

Safety around wild animal and other predator is to never approach one, you absolute dumbass.

Well, my animals would be with me on a lead. So a sort of evil animal control.

No. I'm just saying there are worse problems than APBT.

Not your individual cats, but cats have both directly and indirectly.

I'm saying for the owners, idiot.

Well, my animals would be with me on a lead. So a sort of evil animal control.

Just a lead ? You /do/ are a crazy monster. Put a fucking muzzle on your fucking dogs, you asshole.

No. I'm just saying there are worse problems than APBT.

Like there are worse problem than guns. Doesn't mean either shouldn't be banned.

Not your individual cats, but cats have both directly and indirectly.

Certainly not directly, the only thing I can find on the internet is a 1980 debunked story about them sleeping on kids.

I'm saying for the owners, idiot.

>Owning wild animals.

How about you don't do that if you don't know already how to handle them ?

There is no need for a muzzle as it would be properly trained. Plus, a muzzle just adds to it's intimidating look.

So we should not only ban a breed and or species that is for the most part harmless but also ban guns all together. So when a criminal gets them illegally they won't have a dog to defend them or guns to defend themselves with.

Couldn't find much about it as well. Apologies.

No, for the owners of pets.

That's why people need to be taught how to .

There is no need for a muzzle as it would be properly trained.

Of course there is, you absolute idiot. There is a need to stop it from ever eating some baby face.

"muh baby would never hurt anyone, he is well trained". Well guess what ? So where the vast majority of the "innocent" doggos that killed kids. predators /are/ dangerous, no matter what your delusion might lead you to believe.

Plus, a muzzle just adds to it's intimidating look.

It's not about look, you absolute waste of breath, it's about them not hurting anyone.

Couldn't find much about it as well. Apologies.

At this point I don't care about your apologisies. I just want you to put muzzle on your dogs so you don't end up killing some innocent kids.

Please. I plead to you. Buy muzzle. If you need money for it, I am willing to pay you trough paypal. Just ffs, put muzzles on your dogs. Please.

I know for a fact that my dogs wouldn't attack someone unless they were hurting me. I know that's cliche but I'd put whatever money I have on it.

^

I mean I have a large dog [that is not a APBT] that I'll need a muscle before when I get the chance to walk him. I agree with probably muzzling him.

I know for a fact that my dogs wouldn't attack someone unless they were hurting me. I know that's cliche but I'd put whatever money I have on it.

You unironically are subhuman scum. Your insanity risk kid lives. You are at the same level as anti vaxxers.

Simple couple of question ? Are you an asserted dog trainer ? And did you train your dogs yourself ?

I agree with probably muzzling him.

Don't "probably". Don't risk innocent kids lives, you monster. It's rare that I do this, especially since we got neutered, but I sincerely hope you kill yourself. At least this way no one innocent would have to suffer from your folly.

I am not

Somewhat. As long as dogs have good people as owners that make sure they receive proper car, then that is most of the time enough. A dog will usually portray it's owner.

He is not going to attack a child. They are specifically bred to be around children, to protect children. As well as animals. They are a livestock and human guardian.

I hope some 5' tall mutated rottweiler comes to your room one night and slobbers you to death

I am not

So you are saying you aren't a trained person which would be able to determine precisely what will set off a dog ?

Geh, imagine my surprise that "someone" who is enough of a dumbass to say "muh dog will never attack anyone" doesn't know about dogs.

Hey, here is some advice from one that has done about half the course to become one. Dogs are dangerous and you never know when they will go off. That's why you put muzzles on them, you enema deject.

Somewhat. As long as dogs have good people as owners that make sure they receive proper car, then that is most of the time enough. A dog will usually portray it's owner.

You are retarded. A carnivore will always be a carnivore, and dogs are not human, and you shouldn't anthropomorphise them, as they are not fucking human.

He is not going to attack a child. They are specifically bred to be around children, to protect children. As well as animals. They are a livestock and human guardian.

Guess what human are bred to be social, and good around kids. Doesn't mean that some will not kill children. You are incredibly dumb.

No, I have studied and learned from some of the best people in the state. I personally am good at reading emotion and communicating. Now that I can speak to you like you're somewhat educated, I can read their body language. It's never perfect as some are indeed unpredictable, but for the most part it comes down to basic movements.

Okay, fair point. Research kangal. You will find that they are kick butt dogs that protect people and livestock.

No, I have studied and learned from some of the best people in the state.

I am pretty sure you haven't otherwise you would never say something as retarded as "muh doggo would never hurt anyone". Predators are dangerous. If the cat jaw size allowed it to kill people, cats would have killed people too.

I personally am good at reading emotion and communicating.

This convo definitely proved otherwise.

. It's never perfect as some are indeed unpredictable, but for the most part it comes down to basic movements.

It's not some. You can't read the mind of your dog, you can't have reflex that beat your dog's (literally can't, human are slower than other mammals because of our brain wiring), ...

Don't be a mouthbreather. Put a muzzle on it. Show that you have an above room temperature IQ.

Okay, fair point. Research kangal. You will find that they are kick butt dogs that protect people and livestock.

That's a fighting breed. Of course it is.

Why am I not surprised ?

They would never hurt anyone unless they hurt them.

No, but that's what breaking sticks are for. Accidents happen. That's why we do what we can do prevent them, and if one does occur, to stop it.

No, it is a protective breed. Are cops a fighting 'breed' too?

They would never hurt anyone unless they hurt them.

Of course they would. They are carnivore, that's literally in their genes.

No, but that's what breaking sticks are for. Accidents happen. That's why we do what we can do prevent them, and if one does occur, to stop it.

>Sure my dog can bite random kids, but I am sure that in the stressfull situation I would be able to open its jaws that exerce a trendefull amount of power.

And of course you don't want to put a muzzle on it. Because god forbid you would stop an "accident" from disfiguring a kid, right ?

No, it is a protective breed.

So a fighting breed, lmao.

Are cops a fighting 'breed' too?

Are you truly so retarded to believe cops were bred ?

You act like everytime a dog sees a life form other than their owner it makes a b-line to attack it.

He will not run around and bite kids. His purpose is to protect them.

No. A 'defend others' breed.

That's not what I'm saying. Their job is to protect.

What were these 2 pitbulls defending against? 29 evil cats?

Nope. They are defending anything. In all honesty they may have just been sick and tired of cats. Or, they killed them because they're prey.

I'll brb to this post. Need to check out the article re quick.

BASED RETARD

are was ment to be aren't. I'm on mobile.

tfw youre bored and kill 29 cats for fun

Nope. They are defending anything. In all honesty they may have just been sick and tired of cats. Or, they killed them because they're prey.

Like they would kill babies, because they are predators.

The dogs can't ignore their own instincts. That was their prey drive.

You got it. Doggo eat kids because of their prey drive.

For a person who trainer "halfway" to become a trainer you sure let the stupid hang out.

Wew, lad. Knowing that predators are predator is being stupid.

Athropomorphisation is the greatest threat mankind ever deviced.

Not a true predator unless you let it or teach it to be that way. Will it (or a dog in general) chase a squirrel? 9/10 yes. Can you train it not too? Yes. Dogs take pride in pleasing their owners. They want to make you happy. Same thing with the way they train hunting dogs.

You mean anthropomorphization? Giving human attributes to an animal? I don't see a problem with that really. Why do you hate it?

Not a true predator unless you let it or teach it to be that way.

Retard. Dogs are predators. They literally are, no matter what your delusion are.

You mean anthropomorphization? Giving human attributes to an animal? I don't see a problem with that really. Why do you hate it?

They aren't human, mouthbreather. They don't think like us.

Yes, they are. Well, maybe with the exception of a teacup chihuahua. "The Fly Snatcher"... Lol. But they can be trained no-brain.

This is true. I never said they did. But they do think.

Yes, they are. Well, maybe with the exception of a teacup chihuahua. "The Fly Snatcher"... Lol. But they can be trained no-brain.

They can't be trained out of being a predator, you buffon.

This is true. I never said they did. But they do think.

So you do agree that they think differently and you can't truly understand them, because you aren't a dog ?

Yes, they can you stale grasshopper.

Yes, they don't think like us or about the same things. No, but there's a lot of ways to get the idea and then how they act in correspondance to something (say food) which shows they're excited to see it and want it thrown. Body language is most definitely more difficult but same there: rough idea. You don't need to know their exact thoughts. It's like a language barrier but in common cases you teach each other a little language. Like they say, bonding with a dog is difficult but rewarding.

Yes, they can

You are delusional.

I think you are. Those are our opinions.

No, they are not. Thinking a predator is gonna stop being a predator is being quite literally delusionnal. It's not a matter of opinion. It's a fact. You are delusionnal.

*delusional

Not knowing how you can train a dog besides allegedly going half way through the training means you're not only an idiot and ignorant, but also, stupid and delusional. I can't fix ignorant.

You have proven that your ability to resist something that you don't want to consider or believe is over the top.

I knkw some of your answers have been slightly exaggerated and it's 'troll-induced' to upset me and make me 'feed the troll.'

You have proven that your ability to resist something that you don't want to consider or believe is over the top.

So close to self awareness.

Your predator is a predator. You would know about it if you had even the slightest idea of how dogs work, but you have proved that you refuse reality. That you are literally delusionnal.

Lol

Put a muzzle on your dog. Save a child.

No, because it is unneeded. Only on the big one.

You're going to love this! My town allows free roam of dogs. So if you go to the middle of town or the main street or something you'll see a dog here and there walking around. They're all owned. It's just an ultra-pet friendly place. I don't like it. Few do. Do the dogs cause problems? Not until two contracted rabies. Before that it was just them pooping and peeing.

They should stay on their own property. Can we agree on this? It's unsafe and sometimes a nuisance for random dogs to run around. They could get ran over. Mistaken for a coyote. Who knows.

In your house (if it's house broke lol.) Get a kennel. Or put a fence up. Electric collar thing where it has that parameter thing.

My town allows free roam of dogs.

Disgusting.

Before that it was just them pooping and peeing.

Disgusting. Of course you live in some fucking third world country filled with piss and shit in the streets.

Lol it's not disgusting it's just that they could get hurt and you don't know if it has fleas or anything like that.

No idiot. It's hard to find any anymore as they are starting to actually put up and ordinance. But now and again one will decide to take a dump on someone's grassy yard or pee on someone's tire.

It doesn't matter where I live. But I live in a small town in the US.

But now and again one will decide to take a dump on someone's grassy yard or pee on someone's tire.

Disgusting. Your hometown sound awful.

But I live in a small town in the US.

So a third world country as I tought.

It's not that bad. The mayor and most of the council needs to go.

United States if America.

It's not that bad.

You have shit in the street. It's not that bad, it's worse.

The mayor and most of the council needs to go.

Indeed they do.

United States if America.

I got that one. I stand by what I said.

No, we don't.

Yay, we agree on something.

...? We're literally the best country in the world. People come here for a reason. We could definitely be better, true. You're Canadian, aren't you?

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lmao

No, we don't.

You literally told so yourself.

...? We're literally the best country in the world. People come here for a reason. We could definitely be better, true. You're Canadian, aren't you?

I am not american at all. And not matter what your propaganda station might say, when you have a crime rate that is four time the one of civilised countries, you aren't a civilised country. When you have so many school s hooting that you don't count the year between them but instead the day, if not the hours, you aren't a first world country. When people literally die of treatable disease because the fucked up mistake you call a country haven't found a way to have healthcare for everyone, like all civilised countries have had for the past 70 years, you can't be called one.

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Bruh. He started it. He said more about politics. Get him. Geez.

the fly snatcher....lol

It’s fascinating interacting with pibbie fans. You all are more similar than you realize.

Lol it's just that they fit in a literal teacup (or maybe shotglass.)

Small plate probably. The teacup name has been used but it’s an exaggeration.

(Finally, a comment I can upvote lol)

I have seen a few small ones that could sit in one and peek their head over.

I do agree it is an exaggeration. They attempted to associate something so small with something else so small.

Since you're so smart, may I ask how they came about? I know they're not natural lol.

Yeah, the name is what sells them.

Nothing special with their origin that I know of. Progressively breeding the runts and smallest of each breed down until you have a line of very small examples of the breed.

Figures.

Oh, my. They must've really wanted to do it. That had to have taken several generations.

Yep. Dogs reach sexual maturity and reproduce much faster than humans though, so you can engineer quite a bit in a few decades.

I meant dog generations lol. But yeah.

What even is their purpose? Cuteness?

Pretty much yeah. Companionship.

Oh yeah. I forgot they had shows for them. I think it was my cousin that had his (unironically named Tiny) at his wedding.

I'd be afraid of having one lol.

You act like everytime a dog sees a life form other than their owner it makes a b-line to attack it.

No I am saying dangerous things are dangerous and that they can attack people.

He will not run around and bite kids. His purpose is to protect them.

You absolute moron, his "purpose" is not a thing. There is nothing in its brain that say "protect kids before all else". At best there is a massive "protect pack" instinct, which can very easily lead to it attacking what is not part of the pack.

No. A 'defend others' breed.

How the fuck do you think they defend others ? Trough magical forcefields ? retard.

That's not what I'm saying. Their job is to protect.

You literally don't understand we bred fighting dogs to be more aggressive ?

Yes, dangerous things can happen. That's why you teach the dog. And that's also why it's logical to be mindful of stray dogs or just dogs you don't know in general.

His purpose is to 'protect family'. He is used by African villages to protect them from [insert African animal I forgot] and protect their cows also. Not sure if they herd them or not.

They protect. The dog is for protection. As I stated: Livestock and Man Guardian.

Yes, we did. But since we're not breeding dogs for fighting anymore they have grown slightly less aggressive.

That's why you teach the dog.

Dangerous predators are dangerous no matter how much training you give them. A tiger, no matter how much training might eat babies if let near them. Same goes for dogs. You are absolutely delusionnal.

His purpose is to 'protect family'. He is used by African villages to protect them from [insert African animal I forgot] and protect their cows also. Not sure if they herd them or not.

They don't because they are attack dogs, not herding ones.

They protect. The dog is for protection. As I stated: Livestock and Man Guardian.

How the fuck you think they protect you retard ? By the power of hug and love ? They fight. They bite.

They are fighting dogs.

Yes, we did. But since we're not breeding dogs for fighting anymore they have grown slightly less aggressive.

No, they haven't, lmao. They have the same genes as the ones that were bred for fighting, because they are the same race.

A tiger is not a dog.

No, they are not. They protect. When something attacks it's family they will attack the threat (and not necessarily kill it.) They are not used to go kill people or something.

By tooth and nail. Guardians.

Yes, they have. When you stop breeding them for fighting they will slowly but surely inch away from the stronger instincts. As the article that some guy posted here (that he was trying to use against me) most of the time those instincts lay dorment (but can resurface, yes.)

A tiger is not a dog.

Both are predator.

No, they are not. They protect. When something attacks it's family they will attack the threat (and not necessarily kill it.) They are not used to go kill people or something.

You are a literal mouthbreather if you believe a dog can never make false positive threat identifications.

By tooth and nail. Guardians.

So by fighting, as I was saying.

Yes, they have. When you stop breeding them for fighting they will slowly but surely inch away from the stronger instincts. As the article that some guy posted here (that he was trying to use against me) most of the time those instincts lay dorment (but can resurface, yes.)

You literally don't understand how genes work. Lamarckist tard.

Man I'm done if you're going to keep up with these random 'insults'. I just want to know what mouthbreaker means because you've use it multiple times. I mean all of this just shows how immature you are. It is kind of humorous.

Yes. But a dog's predatory instincts are already suppressed but what they do have left can be suppressed even further. If you were really a dog trained you'd understand. Or you got through the first half of one course and they kicked you out.

I don't believe he can. Unless he loses his senses (or gets rabies (which he's vaccinated for) or something) then he's going to see, smell, and hear friend and foe.

Genes change. Obviously your family's didn't.

Man I'm done if you're going to keep up with these random 'insults'. I just want to know what mouthbreaker means because you've use it multiple times. I mean all of this just shows how immature you are. It is kind of humorous.

I am so very sorry for insulting you, dear subhuman scum.

Yes. But a dog's predatory instincts are already suppressed but what they do have left can be suppressed even further. If you were really a dog trained you'd understand.

But they can't be removed, they still are dangerous.

Or you got through the first half of one course and they kicked you out.

>kicked me out.

Do you even have anything beyond an high school diploma to believe that people get kicked out of courses ?

Genes change.

You are aware of the concept behind a "breed" ? I am seriously asking here.

Thanks, kind dummkauf.

No, they can't be removed. But can be taught. Not dangerous.

They probably got a restraining order lol.

Yes. But if you stop doing selective breeding (for certain traits, ie: aggressiveness, strength, stamina) then it will slowly fall apart.

No, they can't be removed. But can be taught. Not dangerous.

Of course they are still dangerous, those instincts can lead to attacks.

They probably got a restraining order lol.

lmao, you don't have anything beyond an highschool diploma. lmfao.

You only proved further we need to definitely take care of the uneducated problem, and by definitely I mean with gaz chambers.

Yes. But if you stop doing selective breeding (for certain traits, ie: aggressiveness, strength, stamina) then it will slowly fall apart.

So no, you don't. Guess what, what a race has been bred for is something the race is.

To give an exemple your chromosome addled brain can understand, if a race has been selected for its look, even if they stop being bred specifically for this, they still have that look, and won't come back to looking like a wolf. Same goes for aggressivity.

Edit: May I ask why you're still responding if all hope is lost for me?

It's pretty rare I get the chance to talk to someone I literally consider below human. I enjoy myself insulting you, because it's guilt free.

Yes, does anything happen often? No. Can it? Yes.

Mass murder of animals and people? That's nice. It's like you want to do whatever you can to refrain from education.

Yes. But when you stop breeding exact things for exact purposes it starts to fall out.

Ah, that's nice.

Yes, does anything happen often? No. Can it? Yes.

Any kid death is a death too many. 10 kids death a year is far too many.

Mass murder of animals and people? That's nice. It's like you want to do whatever you can to refrain from education.

Creating the superman require sacrifice. Read nietzche, or barring that some introduction to darwinist tought.

More seriously, you aren't even contesting it. Why am I not surprised that you are literally an inferior being, both morally and mentally ?

Yes. But when you stop breeding exact things for exact purposes it starts to fall out.

No it doesn't because you still breed them with other dogs with the same trait (other member of the breed)

Compared to the thousands of kids with thousands of dogs? Accidents happen.

No thanks. I'll pass on stuff the creator himself said was wrong. Because I have multiple times and we're just going in a circle.

Yes, but they are typically not breeding best fighter to best fighter anymore.

Compared to the thousands of kids with thousands of dogs? Accidents happen.

Perfectly preventable accidents are not to be considered as "shit happen", if you have even a barebone moral system.

No thanks. I'll pass on stuff the creator himself said was wrong. Because I have multiple times and we're just going in a circle.

Which creator ?

Yes, but they are typically not breeding best fighter to best fighter anymore.

Yeah, there isn't any progress in the aggressivity. There isn't any backsliding either, they are just as violent as the one that were bred for fighting.

Most of the accidents couldn't have been stopped. But the say 5-10 kids that die a year is not worth exterminating dogs over for thousands of people that are fine and actually need their dogs.

Charles Darwin.

They actually aren't but believe what you'd like.

Most of the accidents couldn't have been stopped. But the say 5-10 kids that die a year is not worth exterminating dogs over for thousands of people that are fine and actually need their dogs.

So can just exterminate the most violent breed, right ? Like pitts and other fighting dogs. This way we don't exterminate dogs.

Charles Darwin.

He is not the creator of social darwinism, lmao, that would be spencer.

They actually aren't but believe what you'd like.

You are delusionnal, once again.

To save a dozen kids and take away thousands of pets and exterminate several breeds? That would never happen.

No need to take the pet away, just sterilize them.

And it did happen in civilised countries. Like UK for exemple.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breed-specific_legislation#United_Kingdom

People do that on their own. We just need to make it cheaper so people will actually do it more like they need to. Dogs end up breeding with other random dogs and then there is unwanted puppies.

Yeah, I know UK has a ban on "pitbulls" nationwide.

People do that on their own.

No enough. This is why it should be mandatory.

Not mandatory, but easier. If people want to have their dog bred then no problem as long as they have a plan for the puppies. But it's just these dogs getting bred that the owners don't want bred then puppies that have to go to the pound. If people never plan on breeding their dog then yes, they should have them spayed/neutered. Vets just need to not charge a fortune for it. Same with shots.

Not mandatory

Of course mandatory. Remove the death of children.

If people want to have their dog bred then no problem as long as they have a plan for the puppies.

No, it's not for it would end up in dead kids statistically speaking.

HOW MANY KIDS DIE DUE TO "PITBULLS"!? 12 TOPS A YEAR? HOW MANY ARE FINE? **THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS."

You need to go back to whatever hole of crap you came out of and get a brain. We wouldn't have a world if we stopped something over anything when the good extremely out weights the bad.

Let's say about 10 kids die a year to 'pitbulls'.

Let's be very modest and say 10,000 kids are just fine and there is never a problem (like most families).

That means the good is 83,233% bigger than the bad. That is extreme.

OTHER BREEDS KILL TOO YOU PRICK. Everything kills. You could die walking outside.

HOW MANY KIDS DIE DUE TO "PITBULLS"!? 12 TOPS A YEAR? HOW MANY ARE FINE? **THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS."

How many dead kids are acceptable ? 0.

That means the good is 83,233% bigger than the bad. That is extreme.

That's not how math work.

OTHER BREEDS KILL TOO YOU PRICK. Everything kills. You could die walking outside.

Doesn't mean you should not remove dangerous threat to life, or maybe you believe asbesto in the wall is perfectly fine ?

Other breeds kill too idiot.

It is. Doesn't make sense, I know.

Let's remove all dogs. Then your precious cats as well because poop is dangerous. While were at let's get rid of bees. And birds, they're actually quite dangerous. Got a pretty good world now. Saving like 100 lives a year. People are pist. People are depressed and dying quicker.

Other breeds kill too idiot.

Let's start by the most dangerous first. :)

Let's remove all dogs. Then your precious cats as well because poop is dangerous. While were at let's get rid of bees. And birds, they're actually quite dangerous. Got a pretty good world now. Saving like 100 lives a year. People are pist. People are depressed and dying quicker.

Don't be a scat and you risk nothing from cats. :)

On the cat thing... They poop. Pregnant women get around it, they get sick and the baby can die. Old people, they can get sick as well. Babies and Toddlers? Same ordeal. It's the ammonia in the poop.

For someone who loves cats you sure don't know much about them.

On the cat thing... They poop. Pregnant women get around it, they get sick and the baby can die.

If you touch it only. Don't be some scat degenerate and you risk nothing.

It's the ammonia in the poop.

You are retarded, the issue is a parasite.

No, you don't have to. Even if you did, don't you think a toddler or two may eventually touch it or something? And you know how little children like to put stuff in their mouths?

No, you don't have to.

Of course you do. Please stop talking when you don't know shit.

Even if you did, don't you think a toddler or two may eventually touch it or something? And you know how little children like to put stuff in their mouths?

then they deserve to die for being scat scum.

They can also bite you. Cats have a lot of bacteria. It is quite harmful. Also read about that parasite. The ammonia is from the pee.

You're screaming about a dozen children dying from a dog bew and yet if you're precious cats kill somebody it just happens? Just because you hate dogs.

Troll.

They can also bite you. Cats have a lot of bacteria. It is quite harmful. Also read about that parasite. The ammonia is from the pee.

Ammonia is without meaningfull risk unless you are eating it 5 time a day or something.

You're screaming about a dozen children dying from a dog bew and yet if you're precious cats kill somebody it just happens? Just because you hate dogs.

No it's because cats, unlike dogs haven't killed anyone. I fully agree parasite, the killers, need to be exterminated.

For every 'pitbull' that kills a child, there are over 200,000 that don't.

Yes, they have.

For every 'pitbull' that kills a child, there are over 200,000 that don't.

Once again, that's not how maths work. It's the fatality rate per year, you need to divide it by the age the breed live to, which is 15.

So it's one for 13k dogs that end up killing people. But that's not it, as murders are not the only threat, they can also bite.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States

Typically, between 30 and 50 people in the US die from dog bites each year,[1] and the number of deaths from dog attacks appear to be increasing.[2] Around 4.5 million Americans are bitten by dogs every year, resulting in the hospitalization of 6,000 to 13,000 people each year in the United States (2005).[2

So for every murder, you have at the very least, counting only people sent to the fucking /hospital/, 13000/30=433 bites. So It's not 13k dogs, it's one in 30. 1 in thirty pittbull will attack someone to the point of sending them to the hospital, statistically speaking.

But sure, they are not dangerous. You can leave them near a baby right ? It's just a 1 in thirty chance he has to go to the hospital after all.

Yes, they have.

No they haven't.

I think there were a told of three different 'pitbulls' that were around me. All 3 were house dogs. (Rest easy, all three are dead. Cancer, old age, murder.) And I always went outside and played with the outside. And for the record, if one attacked me, no matter the outcome it would be dead in the hour. Any dog, for that matter.

How many of those bites are from 'pitbulls? 30-50. Median is 40. Let's go with 10. They kill 10 a year. How many of those are protecting something. Let's just say 1, which is probably all it is. That leaves 9. Approximately 9 'pitbulls' kill approximately people a year. I bet you a vast majority of those dogs are strays. Unowned. Abandoned. Throw out. Maybe even rabid.

Let's say none of the killings were justified at all. Nothing. Back to 10.

Let's say there are 5M 'pitbulls' (there are actually a lot more, but we'll roll with that) in the US.

So for every 'pitbull' that kills someone, there are half a million who don't.

And a lot of those bites will be not only inflicted due to someone attacking the owner or attempting to burglerize (they don't record why, just how they don't record why someone died due to a gun shot. Like how they got shot.), but could be someone screwing around with the dog. Maybe a stray. Or misinformation. A lot of these dogs they are calling 'pitbulls' don't even fall into their 'pitbull' name group, let alone are they an American Pitbull Terrier. Heck, on some of those cop things I've seen them call a boxer a pitbull. They think if it was a dog and it bit them, it had to have been a pitbull. You can't really blame them due to the bad rap on pitbulls but that's exactly why people need to be educated. Just how every dog is not a constant biter. Every spider is not harmful. Every snake you see is not harmful (and some actually kill the harmful ones. King snakes will kill rattle snakes, bull snakes will eat mice, etc.)

Also, maybe check this out as well:

http://stubbydog.org/2012/05/pit-bulls-by-the-numbers/

I think there were a told of three different 'pitbulls' that were around me. All 3 were house dogs. (Rest easy, all three are dead. Cancer, old age, murder.)

So how did it get murdered exactly ? When it attacked someone I guess ?

I bet you a vast majority of those dogs are strays. Unowned. Abandoned. Throw out. Maybe even rabid.

The strays dogs entered house and ate babies under 1 yo (which were the majority of victim from a quick screen at the list of dead). Pull the other one, it has bells on it.

Every spider is not harmful. Every snake you see is not harmful (and some actually kill the harmful ones. King snakes will kill rattle snakes, bull snakes will eat mice, etc.)

You are aware that you have complex laws if you want to take care of a serpent or spider that is dangerous ? As to prevent it going out of its terrarium and biting a kid.

If we put all pitts in terrarium 24h/24 I would have no problem with them either.

Also, maybe check this out as well:

I am not willing to go trough the effort of refuting the news lies here but they once again try to make it seems like we don't have an idea in the number of pit in the US.

No. None of our dogs have ever attacked anyone. His ex-wife took her and she "died in a yard accident." Found out she was fighting dogs.

Oh yeah. I was talking about the adult deaths. The children were likely killed by house dogs. Few (but still some) may have been playing outside and was attacked by a stray one. And they didn't eat 'em as some meal or something. They went crazy one way or another (disease, mental disorder) or just one day up and did it. (Majority is 2 y/o btw.)

And there are the same with dogs (usually.) On a leash. (Pick up poo is also one in some places. They even provide little gloves.)

Well, most are inside or outside dogs. Wait that makes sense lol... Some are in an outdoor kennel. Or on a cable run, chain, etc. And others are just your typical old house dog. Just depends.

We don't. There is no "Dog Census".

No. None of our dogs have ever attacked anyone. His ex-wife took her and she "died in a yard accident." Found out she was fighting dogs.

Poor people doing poor people thing.

They went crazy one way or another (disease, mental disorder) or just one day up and did it. (Majority is 2 y/o btw.)

Finally, we agree. Dogs can go crazy and kill even without a meaningfull (for us) reason.

We don't. There is no "Dog Census".

There are no muslim census in french (in fact it's illegal). Yet we can estimate the number of muslim in france.

Big surprise for you, I am sure. It's the power of polls, and statistics.

Actually she wasn't poor at the time. She had just stole like 40 grand and maxed out credit cards.

Yes. Rabies, [name of something I forgot that has like two ll's], instigated, frightened, attacked, or no reason. I'm sure there's more but that gives a grasp.

Wait really? Odd. I wonder why lol. But yeah, polls. You can never be completey accurate. You can get a lot closer with census. But all we have is a rough estimate. Between 10% and 30% or so.

She had just stole like 40 grand

Ahahaha, you think people with 40k aren't poor. bwahahahaha.

Yes. Rabies, [name of something I forgot that has like two ll's], instigated, frightened, attacked, or no reason. I'm sure there's more but that gives a grasp.

So long you agree dogs are dangerous as they can attack without a reason, we are in agreement.

I wonder why lol.

France is supposed to be indivisible. All french are french first and [whatever minority] second. So trying to make stats on minority is trying to divide french into sub categories, instead of taking them like the french they are.

Between 10% and 30% or so.

Wrong maths once again, but no matter, it's below 40% anyway.

One last thing on pits killing kids. It's five a year roughly as of late from what I was looking at.

For the heck of it, let's stick with the 12 kids per year number.

The good outweighs the bad by 20399900%. 20,399,900%. Over 20M%. Yeah.

Here's something else to look at: http://www.realpitbull.com/perspective.html

One last thing on pits killing kids. It's five a year roughly as of late from what I was looking at.

Oh, man, if it's only 5 kids it's perfectly fine. Who care about five innocent babies dying, right ?

Oh, that's true, people who aren't monsters.

The good outweighs the bad by 20399900%. 20,399,900%. Over 20M%. Yeah.

This is even more retarded than before. Learn what percent are.

Do the calculations yourself then. And click that link

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Do the calculations yourself then.

No, it's even more retarded than that, you don't understand the very concept behind percentage.

As for your link :

2.) Although there are no accurate or even near accurate census records for dogs in the U.S., in some populations pit bulls are estimated to comprise some 30-40% of the dog population, making it a very popular breed. Considering that there were an estimated 53,000,000 dogs in the U.S., and assuming that pit bulls make up 10% of that population, there would be approximately 5.3 million pit bulls in our society. In 2000, 13 pit bulls were involved in 8 fatal attacks. That is roughly ONE dog out of 204,000 - or .000385 percent of the pit bull population.

https://www.caninejournal.com/pit-bull-facts/

5-10 million of those dogs were estimated to be “pit bulls” (the reported number varies widely by how each vet, breeder, organization, owner, vet, etc. defines the term)2.

That's a lie.

3.) Over the 37-year period from 1965-2001, pit bulls have been blamed for an average of 2.48 human fatalities per year.

That's literal lies, again. We have seen that the reason behind is that is that they stopped recording the breed behind the murders.

2 lies in as many phrase. You are the antivaxxes of the pet world. You are the liars killing kids. You are monsters. You are quite literally killing more people than n a z i s do. You don't deserve the bullet, because that's too clean a death for monsters like you.

Prove the first one is a lie.

The second one seems off by a lot.

But still, for every 'pitbull' that kills someone there are thousands upon thousands that don't.

Nazis killed millions. People have killed millions of dogs that shouldn't have needed to die (but there was no other way.) People are nazis. And yet we get after dogs when it's often the person's fault just because they can't throw a riot. Wait until it gets to be ZOO up in this house.

Prove the first one is a lie.

The 40% figure is just a barefaced lie.

As of 2017, there were approximately 89.7 total dogs throughout the United States1. 5-10 million of those dogs were estimated to be “pit bulls”


Nazis killed millions. People have killed millions of dogs that shouldn't have needed to die (but there was no other way.) People are nazis. And yet we get after dogs when it's often the person's fault just because they can't throw a riot. Wait until it gets to be ZOO up in this house.

Nazis nowaday kill less than pitbulls. We should do more about the pittbull threat than about the nazi threat if we are rationnal.

Prove it. Personally, I disagree. I'd say something like 25% in general. If we're talking about actual American Pitbull Terriers, those consist of maybe 5%. Just a guess.

There aren't millions of other Nazis and they aren't good.

Prove it.

I literally did. But you are too delusionnal to accept facts.

There aren't millions of other Nazis and they aren't good.

Pol does have millions of people on it every month, so you are wrong.

You just said it didn't. You provided no proof.

I'm assuming you're saying Interpol. This has nothing to do with anything.

You just said it didn't. You provided no proof.

I sent a link and quoted it. idiot.

I'm assuming you're saying Interpol. This has nothing to do with anything.

Now I am talking about pol. I hope you are trolling.

would you two just fuck already jesus christ

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That's definitely a foid, and I am not a disgusting breeder who get off on fighting the inferior breed of human (foids).

You’re a lunatic

But at least I can proudly say I am not a monstruous evil being, who literally value more meaningless concept like a dog breed than actual children lives.

You can proudly say your a moron

Surething child killer. Tell me, how hot do you get when you hear about an innocent child getting mauled to death ?

Should we kill off the millions of black people as well?

Hey you said it, not me

And to add to, and fix, what I said.

Every race kills every race. We should just annihilate the human race altogether. Just leave NASCAR on Earth. That is the best race. We are inferior. We should die.

And to add to, and fix, what I said.

Every race kills every race. We should just annihilate the human race altogether. Just leave NASCAR on Earth. That is the best race. We are inferior. We should die.

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Someone close to me works in a ER, there are two things they hate, four wheelers and Pitt bulls. Both maul children bc most people are too lazy to properly raise a difficult breed. We need to make it so if you’re on any government benefits, etc you can’t own certain breed. Also make premiums higher for health insurance for owners with children. Definitely don’t ban the breed, they are wonderful dogs. But in reality they are a super dangerous breed for any young low IQ/low income family.

maul children bc most people are too lazy to properly raise a difficult breed.

True. Rarely but it does occur and some could be prevented.

We need to make it so if you're on any government benefits, etc you can't own certain breed.

No. Disagree. So lower class people can't have a certain breed of dog because they are less fortunate? If they have adequate resources to house, feed, water, play with the dog then there is no problem.

Also make premiums higher for health insurance for owners with children.

Hard no again. The odds of the child getting mauled by any dog are slim to none. You shouldn't make people pay more for having a pet. This with the above one would likely never fully pass.

Definitely don't ban the breed, they are wonderul dogs.

Yes, they are. I'm glad you see through some of the stuff. Others would just have the whole breed go extinct then date to actually try and educate people.

But in reality they are a super dangerous breed for any young low IQ/low income family.

Untrue again. Not super dangerous if you're just getting the average APBT. And again, just because someone has low income doesn't mean they shouldn't have the dogs.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

There is clearly something about the breed beyond bad ownership. Pits are overwhelmingly responsible for attacks on other animals and people. There are horrible stories where they just turn on the owner and attack and even kill them.

That's haunting, they are supposed to be our friends. I don't get how you can encourage that characteristic to continue.

Out of the surrounding people I can think of, plus all of the years I've been around them, plus my Dad's decades... There have been less than half a dozen, out of thee yards, thirty years that have ever attacked someone that has come up. One was abused by his first owner. Don't remember anything about the others.

Yes, there can be no foul at play. Sometimes it's just bad blood. What about people? Never abused or anything and then turned around and killed friends or something.

Is it just that you can more easily talk bad about dogs that have been misunderstood or mistreated easier than people? How would you like it if it was your city, state/province, country, race or even species?

Good point but have you considered my anecdotal evidence?

Very epic, but let us not forget that pit bulls are the single most likely breed of dog to be involved in dog attacks, by a fucking mile.

Wow thanks for actually acknowledging something I say and not calling me out, unlike the other guy. Thanks for being the better person, despite still being a hater. A kind hater.

If the first thing you think of when people are talking about violent animals, is black people, you're obscenely racist. You clearly have not been raised right, which makes sense since your dad willfully keeps an animal that can easily murder his child in the house.

easily murder his child [me]

Well, for one, she's dead. Be at rest now, unless of course you want me dead.

She always laid by me when I was a baby, and protected me. She also protected a relative when they were running towards the street. She herded her back. She was never taught that. They are protectors of their family when raised correctly.

Okay, but why pits? Why not another guard breed that doesn't tend to have aggressive traits? There are dozens to choose from.

I don't want anyone to come take and euthanize your dog, I got no beef with rescue dogs, but I think there should be a cultural movement to discourage breeding and buying pit puppies.

Regardless if proper upbringing is the solution, they still inherently come with the problem of safety that is unique to them.

We do have another guard breed, but they're more aggressive. Kangal. Please mention some you suggest.

I agree. People need to spay and murder. They need to be more responsible.

Not unique to them. Most dogs are dangerous, just some are more commonly act on it. Huskies, for example are high strung. Some dogs get so wound up they can't control themselves. My Dad's wife (now ex) favorite dog (was a poorly bred APBT, like most of her dogs) got excited and nabbed me good.

You can't cross out a whole breed or dogs in gern over a few hundred instances every decade.

I agree. People need to spay and murder.

You had a bit of a Freudian slip.

Lol

Yes, but German Shepherds are not only low-key weak (or some) but they are prone to hip displacia.

He is an amazing dog but when people he doesn't know come around he fires up.

That's why they cause so many injuries and fatalities.

  1. In 12 years. 23 a year. How many of those were justified? 25%? More?

What about the times APBT have saved lives.

Is it worth exterminating a whole species?

Hippos kill more. Cars kill more. Horses probably kill more. Are those suddenly justified just because they're not a dog that some people have a bad rep with?

I don't think cases of dogs acting in defense are considered in the statistics, similar to gun shooting statistics.

There's nothing that merits the continuation of breeding a more dangerous dog. Stop thinking in absolutes. With cars there is motivation to designing and buying safer cars, and establish a ton of regulations to make driving safer. Why wouldn't we practice the same with dogs?

True.

I don't think we should stop breeding them, but more responsibly.

And with breeding APBT there is an amazing pet, and if things work out a good defender.

Yes, they do. Far more.

Yes, this is true. But it happens. People die. Shouldn't we euthenize them.

Lol yeah

Yeah, I'm against euthanasia for a dog that has done no wrong and banning already owned and registered dogs.

The problem is people, and that's the thing. We know people are going to be retarded and get dogs that are dangerous, despite the fact they know nothing about raising a dangerous dog. And we know that a poorly trained dog is going to act on the pure instincts it was bred with.

Only obvious solution is to discourage the number of more dangerous dogs, unfortunately for proper dogs and their owners.

Agree with first two.

No. No no no. We need to be more responsible about breeding and where it goes, like many good kennels do. Also, we need to educate people. Just like you would a gun.

That's the optimistic solution with a better result. Mines the more realistic one. I agree about the breeding responsibility. Stronger regulations on breeding would be great.

Lots of dangerous dogs are bought by morons trying to get a cheap deal from bastard breeders, so that would cut the supply of them. Pretty much lines up with my solution.

Indeed.

When we used to be a proper kennel we didn't just breed then sell the $2000 pups. We didn't breed for money.

We bred best to best, and sold to good, reputable people.

And a lot of times it's gangs buying them to protect their little ordeal.

You picked the wrong article. Especially if you want all 'Pitbulls'

Sometimes, smaller dogs such as poodles and Chihuahuas have somewhat of a Napoleon complex and can be of the most vicious.

Yes, they do. First hands experience, unfortunately.

Pitbull

They are using a general term. Other dogs that are not APBT are often categorized as such. 'Pitbull' is not a breed, only a simplfied term.

a jaw that locks once it sinks into a target

This is completely false. They do not lock their jaw. They just have a strong bite. The same as a German Shepherd.

...statistical period of 2005 to 2017. According to Canine Journal...[of] all of the dog bite attacks in the country, Pit bulls accounted for 284 deaths in those years.

Okay. Hippos kill 33 people a day. In one week, they kill almost as many people as 'pitbulls' did in 12 years. We should then shoot all hippos. While were at it let's save 50,000 lives by killing all snakes. Also, look at drowning statistics: "From 2005-2014, there were an average of 3,536 fatal unintentional drownings (non-boating related) annually in the United States — about ten deaths per day. An additional 332 people died each year from drowning in boating-related incidents. About one in five people who die from drowning are children 14 and younger." For those 284 people (presumably killed by 284 'pitbulls') how many of those were breaking in or attacking the dog of it's owner? How many of those had rabies? (Granted, probably few on rabies.) And with what's left, how many 'pitbull' owners are there that were never attacked by their dog and it's as friendly as it can be. And what about all of the 'pitbulls' that saved lives? I think here clearly the good outweighs the bad. And as the article goes on to say, if they're raised right it is very likely they will be wonderful dogs.

Another dog known for its brutal reputation is the Rottweiler.

For me personally, depending of course on how it's acting, I'll go up to a 'pitbull' before I will a 'rotty' or pincher. I mean if any dog is snarling or something I am steering clear.

These numbers may appear shocking, but they could say something else. Instead of arguing that Pitbulls bite more, one could say they are more efficient once they strike. Whereas a bite from a smaller dog might not be fatal. Yes. A Yorkshire Terrier probably won't kill but will take a finger off. Almost happened to a good friend of mine.

In short, there is some truth to the myth that Pitbulls are a dangerous breed of dog. However, under the right guidance and loving household, even the most aggressive dogs are a welcome addition to the family. Some of the most dangerous dog breeds are very popular for pets, including... of course, the aforementioned Pit bulls. But a lot of the dog’s behavior is learned by its upbringing. No two dogs are alike, even of the same breed.

Hippos are responsible for maybe 500 deaths per year, not 12,000. Furthermore, everyone fucking acknowledges that hippos are dangerous: people (Pablo Escobar aside) don’t keep pet hippos in inadequate enclosures in densely-populated areas, and there’s no “mUh hIbBlE” crowd proclaiming that it’s the owner not the species, that they’re harmless nanny artiodactyls, that there should be no legal restrictions on ownership.

Ok nerd

Lol not sure if that's good or bad

Chihuahuas are the number one biter

People unironically use this line? 😂 😂 😂

Day behind the shed when?

What?

downvoting in r/drama

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I hate those little whiny rat dogs, but no one cares about chihuahua nibbles. Pibble kisses aren’t comparable

whiny They are by no means whiny. They actually have a high pain tolerance.

rat dogs They are good rat dogs, as well as hog dogs. They originally used then to intimidate pulls so definitely not "little whiny rat dogs"

I'm talking bite. Like go to the clinic get stiches and get some gauze bite.

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Hello shitbull lover.

How do you cope with the fact that your wuvvy widdle puppies are objectively one of the ugliest dogs in existence? Do you obtain some sort of perverse submissive pleasure when you role play Whitney Wisconsin? I mean apart from snacking on babies and old ladies they do absolutely nothing that other breeds can't do better.

Is it some form of mental disability?

In your opinion they may be ugly. I find most to be good looking dogs. I can link some pics.

Read the above comments from other people and I. 'Pitbulls' killed 284 people in 12 years. How many of those people were breaking in? How many of those dogs had rabies? How many of those people were attacking another person or the dog?

Wrong.

They are smart, very strong, and determined.

Never the poor pibbles fault.

They're not as smart as any retriever, hound, or herder.

They're strong and determined enough to break out of their fence to nibble on the mailman, sure. What are you doing? Hooking it up to the plow?

It's okay to admit that your dog came from the corner of the gene pool that the special kid shit in.

I don't believe that. But with you it's always the APBT fault.

Maybe so, but they definitely are thinkers.

I'm saying they have a strong bite, the same as a precious german shepard and are a good runner. They have to catch the mailman somehow.

Is it okay that you and your family all come from the same gene pool?

When a dog mauls or kills a person, yeah, it's the dog's fault.

So we've established that they're dumber than better looking dogs, but boy they can sure bite.

Fortunately I am not inbred. You can tell because I do not own a pibble. After all, that's the excuse isn't it? Shit owners?

Usually, yes.

Better looking in your opinion. Yes, they can.

Not always. And it's not an excuse.

I don't give a rodent's hind quarter what your 'opinion' is. So here on out, unless you have evidence or a disputable argument, silence yourself.

THE CRY OF THE PEOPLE AGAINST SHITTY DOGS SHALL NEVER BE SILENCED. THE DAY OF THE ATF COMETH, PIBBLES SHALL BE CLEANSED ALONG WITH ALL TERRIERS AND TEACUPS.

Staffordshire terrier, maybe. Any other terrier? No. I mean I don't really care about Yorkshire terriers, but they don't need to die.

Teacups should've never existed. But they're here, and there is no reason they should go.

Correct

Wrong

Wrong

I can link some pics.

We have a strict no gore policy here on /r/drama, so I'm going to have to politely decline.

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Oh I guess you think it's funny to show pictures of dead cats and their filthy pit bull murderers lording over them. Well cats are people's family and you are sick, sick, sick.

*edit: oh way to ninja edit your post to remove those revolting photos and put up nonoffensive ones.

Oh yeah sure. Totally.

Dogs are people's family too

Um excuse me buddy, the downvote button is not a disagree button. We take that very seriously here.

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You mean like how a cat has a tendency towards harming pet birds and fish?

fish

you have to be a moron to let your cat hurt your fish if they're in a tank and even so, who cares unless you've got a fancy tank with expensive fish? it's not like killing someone's cat or dog

birds

it's easy for bird owners to keep their birds safe from their cats, and cats don't go around mauling other people's pet birds as pibbles do to cats and dogs

Outdoor cats are having a huge effect on killing local avian wildlife. These based pitties were clearly just protecting our children from environmental destruction. Nanny dogs, after all.

Cats also control disease-spreading rats tho so it balances out.

Cats don’t kill rats, mice yes but they’re too. I have of cowards to kill rats

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There's a lot of birds to go around.

Try and think rationally for a second here: If cats could slaughter birds this easily, then how do birds still exist today? Small cats are native to the whole goddamn planet and birds flourish everywhere as well.

Why would you drag humans' pets into this? Maybe you should drop your white savior complex, stop being patronizing towards birds' ability to evade predators, and stop nagging all those precious little kitties who just want to show off how good they are at killing.

you have to be a moron to let your cat hurt your fish if they're in a tank and even so, who cares unless you've got a fancy tank with expensive fish? it's not like killing someone's cat or dog

Not only would you have to be a moron, your cat would have to be a genius, unless you put your fish in a tiny little bowl (already bad) and left it on the edge of a counter for the cat to knock off. Otherwise the cat's more likely to fall in and hurt itself than manage to catch one of your fish.

The difference is cats can't be trained like dogs and birds/fish are on their regular menu.

Dogs don't normally eat cats as part of their diet

None of that matters. Cats and pitbills both eat pets if given the chance regardless of training.

Tbh everything is on a dog's menu. They will eat whatever they find and kill whatever they can for food

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the mauling of people sucks too but the way that pibble owners hand-wave cat maulings is infuriating. also go fuck yourself, cat-hating dog lovers are so pathetic that their only shot at true love is to buy a companion that is genetically programmed to love any given human who owns them

Correct, cats are master race in regards to domestic animals

you cat people really are fuckin' nuts, huh?

Cats are God's gift to mankind. The bubonic plague was cast upon Yurop as punishment for killing cats

cat-hating dog lovers

I don't even understand why people have strong opinions on one pet or another. Like yeah I prefer dogs but its hard to wrap my head around hating cats and presumably vice versa.

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why would you keep an animal that has a tendency towards harming other pets even if they're the 'sweetest ever' with people?

Because cats are cunts. #TakeThePibblePill

Pibbles have an alliance with the birds.

I hate cats

rude

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Fuck pibbles, but I have a poignant childhood memory of discovering my black lab mix gleefully tearing the intestines out of a new born kitten that wandered into my backyard. He then pranced around the yard with its carcass like he wanted to play fetch or something. Ironically enough, he almost got killed by my dad's pibble for stealing a treat. I think some dog breeds just really don't like small animals encroaching on their territory.

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When is the day of the pibble

Those pibbles had their day, as every dog does.

Baste

wtf Il love pibbles now

IKR? Two dozen fewer cats? Sign me up!

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lol the catcels are S E E T H I N G

Hope you're for real in a way. Glad you love them but I mean kind of scary if you like the fact that they sometimes kill cats...

The right tool for the right job.

I chuckled at this. I feel like I just robbed a bank.

Now I can see you-

With a whole dispatch team of APBT trained to attack pressure points on cats

same cats should fucking die

also theres this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis

shh don't let the catcels know about their mind control, they freak out

I hate the idea of pets

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BREED OF PEACE

The only good thing a pibble of peace has ever done.

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More of a lifted vehicle in general. They can either be the canine version of rolling coal or the canine version of "choppin blades"

the fact that /r/drama is full of people obsessed with cats is not surprising to me

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Based and toxoplasmosispilled

I can't wait until your pibbie eats you. 😠

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This actually made me sad

same, this kinda ruined my day

It really just messed me up, I imagined how nasty my cats sounds are when he’s upset so imaging a bunch of cats screaming in peril is so awful

Cats are gross though.

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Jeeze they just let anybody in here these days

Even cat people. Imagine picking up your pets poop

Imagine your pet being violently mauled by a pitbull

Well if it's a car doggy getting a treat

You mean exactly what all dog owners do? Cats actually bury their shit in the litter box.

Lol if you pickup dogshit you're prob unironically a cuck

You never fail to prove how utterly a gross redneck you are

Well. I mean it's true tho

Exactly. Dog owners are cucks.

Lol I don't pickup dog poo

You are a dog poo

Kk

Same, chances are a doggo is gonna be put down today :(

doggo

Not every shelter dog is a good dog.

They're in a shelter for a reason folks!

This is just criminal negligence on the shelter's part.

this story makes me genuinely angry and sad and makes me dislike pitbulls even more. actually ok i admit it I sort of hate them. screw those ugly ass dogs

can someone post the story of the cat beating the shit out of a pitbull to balance this out

Pit bulls need to be euthanized for the safety of our children

"A decision has not been made over what to do with the dogs after the incident, Banks said."

Fucking what? Just put the little demons down for fuck sake.

We need to let them bite three children and an elderly woman before we truly decide how dangerous they are

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They're mauling cats, eating kids, they're rapists, and some, I assume, are good dogs. But we've gotta do something about it folks, we've gotta do something about it.

It was both sides.

Example of the sociopathy commonly found in pit nutters:

https://twitter.com/crmartin1997/status/1154778267913789442?s=21

"put down the breed"

Well, yes

Gut em all

Wowwww this is where I live. I had no idea about this till I navigated to the article and saw its in my town.

Lol at the catcells. That's what reddit karma is about, you upvote animals and then they die. Well done👍

Pittcide now. We must secure the existence of our cats and a future for their kittens.

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Just more Cultural Enrichment™ from the breed of peace.

The breed of peace.

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