If you support free speech, you must support people pinging other users. It's completely legal speech. If you won't defend pinging as free speech because you or someone else finds it disgusting, then no speech that you or anyone else views as disgusting is safe.
>if it is in fact on shaky legal ground it's reasonable to not want to be the case that establishes it as illegal.
It's not, The reddit admins are straight up lying to the ignorant (like yourself) to justify their prejudice. Pinging being protected speech has long since been estabilished, as it has undeniable artistic merit. The only time it's been included under any obscenity laws is when someone is being charged with possession of harassment, so the state can slap them with more charges. The courts have been very careful to not charge anyone for pinging, because they'd get their asses fucking annihilated by a higher court due to the firm precedence of pinging being completely legal speech. /r/Drama had nothing to worry about, this guy was just making shit up to fool people into thinking his censoring wasn't entirely personally motivated.
Because white is considered the "normal" (most people in US are white) so some feel that minority groups have shared experiences living in a culture that isn't theirs and uniting them is a good thing where white people already have the whole society so anything just for them is only exclusionary to others. If you read anyone's argument in the thread it becomes obvious that the real reason is that white people are cancelled.
That is, and I cannot believe I am saying this, extremely gay. What society became great by disparaging the idea of the majority having pride? Imagine korea banning korean clubs as being racist.
Pretty clearly the whites affected by this kind of racism won't be the ones at the top of the dominance hierarchy. It's intra group competition for status.
I kinda wonder how crit theory/intersectional stuff will react to non-spicy mayos being a minority? I could almost see it freaking them out as much as poltards.
Foids are the majority in like every major (minus a couple), ever degree level, even are the majority in management (so even after education). Yet still need women’s clubs for some reason. Really makes you think.
Genuinely not true really. Latino:1 : a native or inhabitant of Latin America or 2 : a person of Latin American origin living in the U.S.
The Spaniards who colonized LATAM had no problem with admixture. Mexicans and indeed most people in or from LATAM are half Native American at best. They're about as "white" as obama is.
Yes I am, but are you insinuating r/drama is a club dedicated to mayo-ism? Because I think you will find it is quite the opposite as we advocate mayocide
Because the only thing white people really have in common is skin colour, as opposed to black people who were often forced to lose their cultural identity when they were brought to America and therefore you have more of a uniform “black” culture than a “white” culture.
However, you could probably start a Scottish-American club or German-American club or something and I don’t think anyone would really care.
If a race compromises the majority of a country what point is there in creating an enclave for them? Considering that white people aren’t hurt by institutional racism or (generally) individual racists there is little need to advocate for their specific interests. This particular club is no different and just posts shitty memes.
Black, Latino, and Asian student unions are meant to concentrate the voices of minority students in order to give them representation in administrations that might discriminate against non-white students.
White student unions don't need to concentrate white voices, because they are the majority. Administrations historically don't discriminate against white kids. Also, when mayos form groups around their mayonnaise identity, they tend to be really fucking racist and stupid.
The American neo-nazi skin heads have meaning for their colors. Red laces and braces means you've proven yourself.
Quick run down. This easily found online, but it's legit. I knew people like this.
14/88: Common white supremacist code. 14 stands for the "14 words" slogan coined by David Lane, who is serving a 190-year sentence for his part in the assassination of a Jewish talk show host: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children." 88 means "Heil Hitler," as H is the eighth letter of the alphabet.
28: Shorthand for Blood and Honour, a skinhead group.
38: Confederate Hammerskins, the southern faction of Hammerskin Nation.
Boot party: Beating a victim to the ground then stomping and kicking him or her with steel-toed boots.
Braces: Suspenders.
Crew: Skinhead gang or faction.
Colors: Marks identifying affiliation; can be tattoos, patches on jackets, etc.
Curbing, curb job: Breaking a victim's jaw or neck by forcing his or her face against a street curb and kicking the back the of the victim's head; popularized in the 1998 cult movie, "American History X."
Dr. Martens (a.k.a. Doc Martens): Brand of durable boots popular with skinheads as well as young people in all walks of life, though skins lace the boots differently (see "straight-laced") and wear either red or white laces.
Homey sock: Pool ball in a sock wrapped in tape so it doesn't split open when used as a weapon.
Featherwood: Female skinhead.
Five words: "I have nothing to say." Skinheads are exhorted to give this standard response to any and all media and law enforcement inquiries.
Fred Perry: Brand of polo shirt favored by skinheads.
Fresh cut: A newly indoctrinated skinhead whose head has recently been shaved for the first time.
Hammerskins: A nationwide skinhead syndicate, also known as Hammerskin Nation, with regional factions and chapters that once dominated skin subculture nationwide.
HSN: Hammerskin Nation.
HFFH: "Hammerskin Forever Forever Hammerskin."
Hang-around: A young person who associates with skinheads but is not yet a probate, akin to a gangbanger "wannabe."
Probate: A "member in waiting" who is on probation for a set amount of time before he or she becomes a full-fledged member of a skinhead crew.
RAHOWA: Short for "Racial Holy War," a slogan that originally came out of the neo-Nazi Church of the Creator; also the name of a defunct band.
Red laces: Bootlace color indicating the wearer has shed blood for the skinhead movement. Racist skinheads will often randomly attack non-whites to "earn" their red laces.
Spider web tattoo: Racist skinhead "badge of honor," often worn on the elbow, indicating wearer has committed murder for the skinhead movement.
SHARP: Short for Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice, commonly known as SHARP skins, who often battle racist skins.
Skinbyrd: Female skinhead.
Straight-laced: A complex boot-lacing system favored by racist skins who lace their boots in horizontal, straight lines rather than X or cross patterns.
White laces: Bootlace color identifying a skinhead as being "white power," as opposed to a non-racist ("traditional") or anti-racist skin.
ZOG: Shorthand for "Zionist Occupation [or Occupied] Government," reflecting the neo-Nazi conspiracy theory that the American government is secretly controlled by a powerful Jewish cabal.
A lot of this is not longer prevalent. I've seen people like this since the 80s and 90s. If you come across one, they will know what your talking about. It's just not as canon anymore.
Don't confuse them with white nationalist prison gangs either. AB, AC, White Knights, etc...they don't fuck with most of these dip shits. Exceptions to the rules happen, but they are on a completely different level. Most of these ass hats are cannon fodder.
Still, the fuckwads I knew would jump you if you wore braces or laces without permission. Long before all this alt right bullshit. I guess, they at least had some sincerity. As useless of a trait that is."
It doesn't matter if they slap "parody" on their description to cover themselves if all their posts are genuine and it's otherwise the same as any other retarded rightoid account.
I like to see a little more effort in doing parody than just posting /pol/ shit and saying "parody account" in your bio. I imagine it's probably genuine but there just for insurance purposes
stony brook ousting lsu in a super regional hosted in baton rouge a couple years ago is the most embarrassing thing that has ever happened to my alma mater tbh
"Not a question just a comment. I'm sorry to bother the class but I am being very distracted by this man in front of me updating the SBU White Student Union Instagram page. It is a distracting me because it's reminding me of how disgusting people can still be and how there are still people that think like that. I think if this student wants to update his racist Instagram page then he should not do it in class where others can see it. Would you agree?"
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If you support free speech, you must support people pinging other users. It's completely legal speech. If you won't defend pinging as free speech because you or someone else finds it disgusting, then no speech that you or anyone else views as disgusting is safe.
>if it is in fact on shaky legal ground it's reasonable to not want to be the case that establishes it as illegal.
It's not, The reddit admins are straight up lying to the ignorant (like yourself) to justify their prejudice. Pinging being protected speech has long since been estabilished, as it has undeniable artistic merit. The only time it's been included under any obscenity laws is when someone is being charged with possession of harassment, so the state can slap them with more charges. The courts have been very careful to not charge anyone for pinging, because they'd get their asses fucking annihilated by a higher court due to the firm precedence of pinging being completely legal speech. /r/Drama had nothing to worry about, this guy was just making shit up to fool people into thinking his censoring wasn't entirely personally motivated.
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1 rocinantebabieca 2019-08-27
Genuine question, why are white clubs frowned upon, latino black and asian clubs are not?
1 CruisinChelseaSteele 2019-08-27
Because white is considered the "normal" (most people in US are white) so some feel that minority groups have shared experiences living in a culture that isn't theirs and uniting them is a good thing where white people already have the whole society so anything just for them is only exclusionary to others. If you read anyone's argument in the thread it becomes obvious that the real reason is that white people are cancelled.
1 rocinantebabieca 2019-08-27
That is, and I cannot believe I am saying this, extremely gay. What society became great by disparaging the idea of the majority having pride? Imagine korea banning korean clubs as being racist.
1 papercrumbs 2019-08-27
top and bottom team up against the middle
Pretty clearly the whites affected by this kind of racism won't be the ones at the top of the dominance hierarchy. It's intra group competition for status.
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1 genuinegrill 2019-08-27
aaaaaaaa
1 TaysSecondGussy 2019-08-27
I kinda wonder how crit theory/intersectional stuff will react to non-spicy mayos being a minority? I could almost see it freaking them out as much as poltards.
1 MoistLanguage 2019-08-27
People are in for a rough surprise if they think that racism will go away when Latinos are the majority instead of whites in the US
1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-08-27
But there is like women’s clubs and they aren’t a minority lol
1 TaysSecondGussy 2019-08-27
They are still in denial about that. There are like...5 moids in my major/class group.
1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-08-27
Foids are the majority in like every major (minus a couple), ever degree level, even are the majority in management (so even after education). Yet still need women’s clubs for some reason. Really makes you think.
1 leva549 2019-08-27
Le STEM lel.
1 MoistLanguage 2019-08-27
Technically foids count as fractions, same as blacks used to be because of their inferior social utility.
1 moid=3.14 foids
1 Tzar-Romulus 2019-08-27
Latinos are white. SMH you crypto-mayo.
1 Whaddaulookinat 2019-08-27
Do those of German ancestry count as white?
1 Tzar-Romulus 2019-08-27
Those of Kraut ancestry are the only I don't consider white.
1 Whaddaulookinat 2019-08-27
Good. Mexico suffered enough. Bringing the Tuba and Polka was a crime against humanity.
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-08-27
Mexico adopted that as it's own. It's like you don't even listen to Mexican music.
1 Whaddaulookinat 2019-08-27
I know. The joke was lost on ya three tho eh?
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-08-27
TELL 👏 BETTER 👏 JOKES 👏
1 Whaddaulookinat 2019-08-27
No
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-08-27
Yes we are, but we still get imaginary oppression points!
1 Tzar-Romulus 2019-08-27
The eternal (((castizo)))
1 ryandanegayin 2019-08-27
Exactly. Last time I checked, I could chug gallons of milk without getting diarrhea.
1 Zero777g 2019-08-27
We come I black, there is an option for black or white Hispanic, I still don't know which am I but people confuse me for black anyway
1 xlhat 2019-08-27
Smh at these people who're ignorant. Please google Criollos.
1 FearOfBees 2019-08-27
Genuinely not true really. Latino:1 : a native or inhabitant of Latin America or 2 : a person of Latin American origin living in the U.S.
The Spaniards who colonized LATAM had no problem with admixture. Mexicans and indeed most people in or from LATAM are half Native American at best. They're about as "white" as obama is.
1 Kellere31 2019-08-27
Keep coping mayo. 40% of Mexico is recognized by the government as white. The rest are mayo mutts.
1 big_papa_stiffy 2019-08-27
lmao who actually thinks that though
1 15778047 2019-08-27
Because white people are the devil and must be oppressed in order to end oppression.
1 throwaway_999912 2019-08-27
This but unironically
1 Boywithpants 2019-08-27
Idk tbh but I was in a Latino group and we let non-latinos join us all the time
1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-08-27
Why would you join a Latino group. What did this consist of? Eating tacos and listening to J Balvin?
Why would you like mayos in?
1 CharlesBukakeski 2019-08-27
I went to the Asian student Union group just to bully the guys there and eat free food/pussy.
1 artemis_m_oswald 2019-08-27
Because anyone who joins a club specifically dedicated to mayo-ism is a fag and should be humiliated.
1 OlivierPratt 2019-08-27
Clearly you must be a "fag" too then.
1 artemis_m_oswald 2019-08-27
Yes I am, but are you insinuating r/drama is a club dedicated to mayo-ism? Because I think you will find it is quite the opposite as we advocate mayocide
1 KaaraRaven 2019-08-27
Because mayos in general should be frowned upon.
1 Arbys_Official 2019-08-27
Dumb question.
1 aqouta 2019-08-27
I frown at all of them because I'm not a massive loser who wants to do any activity exclusively with people of a certain race.
1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-08-27
I believe you
1 kratoswithcappuccino 2019-08-27
Because the only thing white people really have in common is skin colour, as opposed to black people who were often forced to lose their cultural identity when they were brought to America and therefore you have more of a uniform “black” culture than a “white” culture.
However, you could probably start a Scottish-American club or German-American club or something and I don’t think anyone would really care.
1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-08-27
Lol cope
1 professorshillphd 2019-08-27
Mainly because white nationalists. Invariably any time you start a group in any way linked to white identity they swarm it and make it retarded.
There's also the historical context that doesn't exist for blacks or Asians.
1 Bigboybaths 2019-08-27
Because everyone but whites deal with institutional racism duh.
1 freet0 2019-08-27
TBH all racial clubs are idiotic.
Cultural clubs on the other hand are based excuses to eat ethnic food on university money.
1 BigBrownDog12 2019-08-27
Mayo clubs have a history of getting out of hand (KKK, Nazis, Antifa)
1 Slump_o 2019-08-27
If a race compromises the majority of a country what point is there in creating an enclave for them? Considering that white people aren’t hurt by institutional racism or (generally) individual racists there is little need to advocate for their specific interests. This particular club is no different and just posts shitty memes.
1 Biomoliner 2019-08-27
Black, Latino, and Asian student unions are meant to concentrate the voices of minority students in order to give them representation in administrations that might discriminate against non-white students.
White student unions don't need to concentrate white voices, because they are the majority. Administrations historically don't discriminate against white kids. Also, when mayos form groups around their mayonnaise identity, they tend to be really fucking racist and stupid.
1 watermark002 2019-08-27
But what about white people?
But what about men?
1 cfbWORKING 2019-08-27
They are called fraternities
1 Peetrius 2019-08-27
The latest dog whistle of white supremacy is spins roulette wheel suspenders.
1 CruisinChelseaSteele 2019-08-27
RED suspenders, red being one of the colors that the President's hats come in
1 Osterion 2019-08-27
cringe
1 2Manadeal2btw 2019-08-27
The American neo-nazi skin heads have meaning for their colors. Red laces and braces means you've proven yourself. Quick run down. This easily found online, but it's legit. I knew people like this.
14/88: Common white supremacist code. 14 stands for the "14 words" slogan coined by David Lane, who is serving a 190-year sentence for his part in the assassination of a Jewish talk show host: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children." 88 means "Heil Hitler," as H is the eighth letter of the alphabet. 28: Shorthand for Blood and Honour, a skinhead group. 38: Confederate Hammerskins, the southern faction of Hammerskin Nation. Boot party: Beating a victim to the ground then stomping and kicking him or her with steel-toed boots. Braces: Suspenders. Crew: Skinhead gang or faction. Colors: Marks identifying affiliation; can be tattoos, patches on jackets, etc. Curbing, curb job: Breaking a victim's jaw or neck by forcing his or her face against a street curb and kicking the back the of the victim's head; popularized in the 1998 cult movie, "American History X." Dr. Martens (a.k.a. Doc Martens): Brand of durable boots popular with skinheads as well as young people in all walks of life, though skins lace the boots differently (see "straight-laced") and wear either red or white laces. Homey sock: Pool ball in a sock wrapped in tape so it doesn't split open when used as a weapon. Featherwood: Female skinhead. Five words: "I have nothing to say." Skinheads are exhorted to give this standard response to any and all media and law enforcement inquiries. Fred Perry: Brand of polo shirt favored by skinheads. Fresh cut: A newly indoctrinated skinhead whose head has recently been shaved for the first time. Hammerskins: A nationwide skinhead syndicate, also known as Hammerskin Nation, with regional factions and chapters that once dominated skin subculture nationwide. HSN: Hammerskin Nation. HFFH: "Hammerskin Forever Forever Hammerskin." Hang-around: A young person who associates with skinheads but is not yet a probate, akin to a gangbanger "wannabe." Probate: A "member in waiting" who is on probation for a set amount of time before he or she becomes a full-fledged member of a skinhead crew. RAHOWA: Short for "Racial Holy War," a slogan that originally came out of the neo-Nazi Church of the Creator; also the name of a defunct band. Red laces: Bootlace color indicating the wearer has shed blood for the skinhead movement. Racist skinheads will often randomly attack non-whites to "earn" their red laces. Spider web tattoo: Racist skinhead "badge of honor," often worn on the elbow, indicating wearer has committed murder for the skinhead movement. SHARP: Short for Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice, commonly known as SHARP skins, who often battle racist skins. Skinbyrd: Female skinhead. Straight-laced: A complex boot-lacing system favored by racist skins who lace their boots in horizontal, straight lines rather than X or cross patterns. White laces: Bootlace color identifying a skinhead as being "white power," as opposed to a non-racist ("traditional") or anti-racist skin. ZOG: Shorthand for "Zionist Occupation [or Occupied] Government," reflecting the neo-Nazi conspiracy theory that the American government is secretly controlled by a powerful Jewish cabal.
A lot of this is not longer prevalent. I've seen people like this since the 80s and 90s. If you come across one, they will know what your talking about. It's just not as canon anymore. Don't confuse them with white nationalist prison gangs either. AB, AC, White Knights, etc...they don't fuck with most of these dip shits. Exceptions to the rules happen, but they are on a completely different level. Most of these ass hats are cannon fodder. Still, the fuckwads I knew would jump you if you wore braces or laces without permission. Long before all this alt right bullshit. I guess, they at least had some sincerity. As useless of a trait that is."
Snappy quote please
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1 CruisinChelseaSteele 2019-08-27
Lmao they think that guy in the picture has bled or drawn blood for the Nazi party based on his suspenders
1 TheColdTurtle 2019-08-27
This is a copypasta right? No one would write all that out would they?
1 throwforrandomshit 2019-08-27
https://www.instagram.com/sbu_wsu/
That's a parody account...
1 KaaraRaven 2019-08-27
They still post genuine /pol/ tier mayo nonsense though.
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2019-08-27
Do you understand what parody even means?
1 KaaraRaven 2019-08-27
It doesn't matter if they slap "parody" on their description to cover themselves if all their posts are genuine and it's otherwise the same as any other retarded rightoid account.
1 CruisinChelseaSteele 2019-08-27
I like to see a little more effort in doing parody than just posting /pol/ shit and saying "parody account" in your bio. I imagine it's probably genuine but there just for insurance purposes
1 I_DRINK_TO_FORGET 2019-08-27
The fact anyone cares about a kid posting boomer tier memes to Instagram is the problem here.
1 KaaraRaven 2019-08-27
Now this is coping. :v
1 lolcows63 2019-08-27
I take back my opinion he should get lambasted for this
1 GeauxHouston22 2019-08-27
stony brook ousting lsu in a super regional hosted in baton rouge a couple years ago is the most embarrassing thing that has ever happened to my alma mater tbh
1 Coonass_alt 2019-08-27
The lap 😭
1 closedshop 2019-08-27
Student Unions should be discriminated against.
1 CruisinChelseaSteele 2019-08-27
Chapos call themselves socialists but oppose a union 🤔
1 OnlyRacistOnReddit 2019-08-27
I had to switch it to "Controversial" on my own you jerk...
1 Inceltiers 2019-08-27
Is he an actual neo nazi or just a wrong thinker?
1 CruisinChelseaSteele 2019-08-27
It's not my job to educate you
1 Slump_o 2019-08-27
Didn’t watch but there’s a Dave Rubin thumbnail on his page so probably just a standard issue tard.
1 RBLXTalk 2019-08-27
this is peak reddit
1 watermark002 2019-08-27
COPE
1 CruisinChelseaSteele 2019-08-27
It's either cope or rope in this world. Ohana