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Trap Mommy: you have always been a radical centrist at heart. You know this. I know this. It’s time for you to join our ranks. We’ll give you P_K’s old crown.

/r/Destiny is already trying to woo her with the Omniliberal angle so you better hurry. Though I can't believe you're betraying PK like this.

He betrayed us long ago.

Live by blue check mark retardation. Die by blue check mark retardation.

Well she’s a dude so ....

Well deep down I'm a dude, he's a dude, she's a dude. We're all dudes in this game if life

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Like what is even the Point, its just people getting mad at you online Just close your eyes if you don't want to see it lol.

Hahahaha

this is the truest statement tyler ever made.

What about when he said that he's been missing white boys since 2004

Hahahaha how is being deeply closeted even real

Lmao Alec Howoka deleted his account irl cus Zoe said she didn't like his sex

Take as old as time tbh

The findings paint a troubling picture of the impact of stigma and discrimination on the health of many transgender people. A staggering 39% of respondents experienced serious psychological distress in the month prior to completing the survey, compared with only 5% of the U.S. population. Among the starkest findings is that 40% of respondents have attempted suicide in their lifetime—nearly nine times the attempted suicide rate in the U.S. population (4.6%).

And yet they'll say it's everyone else's fault and not their own mental illness.

Its because the alt right bullies trannies all the time :((((

I mean trannies do get bullied a lot

Not that they don’t deserve it, but still true

Why do they deserve it for existing?

It’s not for existing it’s for being disgusting freaks

Well a lot of them are disgusting commies. So that's not really something that'll make you a lot of friends.

Every time I encounter a tranny, they turn out to be a far-leftoid. I think Trappy was right when s(he) said that communists infiltrate gay websites/clubs and use them are recruiting grounds.

By that standard you and your mom should be asphyxiated.

Did you also 40% your own dick?

I was blessed with a microdick so I didn't have to.

It brings a tear to my eye to hear my gospel spread without me

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Everyone deserves a good bully every now and then, it builds character.

For being insufferable fagbois who have NO OTHER PERSONALITY BESIDES BEING A TRANNY.

That's right, every tranny's personality revolves around being a tranny.

It's weird that this sub hates trans so much when half the mods are trans.

JANNIE STIFFY UH

I thought a good chunk of the alt-right was trannies... Wait... Suicide... Alt-right bulling trannies.

Ok, nevermind.

No they're cross dressers, big difference

good

ironic, in this context

I mean

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"*I got here by reading queer Tumblr posts at the platform's peak. Ie 2014. Ie 3 full years before she even transitioned"

Are they bragging about who transitioned earlier now?

That's what happens when you treat a legitimate thing like a fucking meme. Gender dysphoria is a thing but, let's face it, the media treats it like it's a trend instead of a serious thing. Happens every single time with the current hot issue, just shoving in flat characters to fill a quota and get some pink money.

As games proved it (Deus Ex, Fallout New Vegas, etc...) people do not mind when a character is LGBT as long as their personality is, well, a personality and not just "HI DID I MENTION I'M (insert current hot topic here), IT'S LITERALLY THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS ABOUT ME!". Seriously, it's borderline insulting and ridiculously childish.

Except it 100% is a fad and tweet like this prove it.

Trans people have existed throughout history though

Tweets prove things

I mean they have nothing else to brag about other than how nicely their wounds are healing or what kind of fun new anti-depressants they're on so it makes a kind of sense.

I would defy anyone to find me one (1) tranny that hasn't taken one (1) SSRI in their lifetime.

Daily reminder that SSRIs got pushed really really hard in media around the 1990s as a miracle cure when nobody really knew wtf they did to people long-term, and now we've got this sudden wave of mental illness. 🤔

Aren't they one of the things that there was a campaign to give kids with dysphoria?

Chicken or the egg. Mass of mentally ill people take mystery drug instead of dealing with their problems, or normal people tricked by (((us))) into taking crazy pills?

Whatever's more embarrassing is most likely the truth. Mayocide soon.

If I could go back in time only once, I'd shoot the guy who invented anti-depressants.

That doesn't explain young people with mental illness today though 🤔🤔🤔 Depressed 20 year olds today weren't around to get SSRIs in the 90s.

I blame computers. And schools. And obesity. And countless other things.

No, it was the jews

yet we still can't cure autism

Don’t they complain about gatekeeping?

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Its weird how the supporters of the Masterrace are less elitist than the woke community.

But the woke community is doing (((their))) bidding, so who is the real master race hrmmmmmm

Unironically jews, as hitler would say you got to eliminate the best to be the best.

He really did hate us cause he anus.

As this poorly drawn comic proves

I always upvote this shit.

People who think that change to their liking occurs without the expending of... ahem... "emotional labor" are dipshits.

These folks aren't activists. They're sanctimonious wokeness one-uppers that have a whole lot more in common with pearl-clutching moral majority church ladies than civil rights leaders.

If you change the wording of their tweets bit, they turn into parochial schoolmarms.

They are parochial schoolmarms. Moralising, avoiding anyone who isnt in your cult, being convinced that their ideology is perfect in an insufferable "mother knows best" way.

That's why I just disable them by saying the n word without remorse. They cannot recover from my unabashed effrontery.

some "activists" are so constantly self righteous and angry about the state of everything, so offended without understanding, but in their personal lives are narcissists, or just assholes who are really only seeking validation. Prime example: the Activism scene in Tucson.

I think there is an argument to make that a vast majority of adults who are into the work scene are narcissists and other cluster b disorders. Teenagers are doing it for attention and to stand out,as all teenagers do,

any adult though has to have some sort of mental illness to spend days and days online arguing with people and out woking others.

There is a reason the woke community is full of grifters.

*woke, being woke means you never work

any adult though has to have some sort of mental illness to spend days and days online arguing with people and out woking others.

Speaking from personal experience, this must be the case... Even if un-woke.

Anyone remember Tony Soprano's sister Janice? I've been rewatching that show and her character perfectly portrayed self-righteous SJWs before there was even a term for them.

Falls right into the strategies used by [actual] neo-nazis to convimce people, too.

They offer incomplete factual evidence to support their bullshit, and get away with it because many of the left forgot what made their beliefs so compelling: discussion.

Alt-right bullshit doesn't survive genuine discussion, it's almost always going to end in some insane theory about the Jews or hispanics.

"insane"

Lol ok schlomo

The Jews couldn't replace you fast enough tbh.

The Hispanics are the vanguard of the Jewish conspiracy. You can't see past the Hispanics to see the real villain. The Jews want it this way.

Don't discuss shit with the alt right, it's not in good faith

in good faith

I've never seen anyone who lacked faggotry type those words together in that order unironically.

I'm a nazi because leftists didn't read Marx to me enough

This is a real thing and now reddit meta masturbation

It's only bad when we do it.

Pls send me a pic of u I want to see if ur really tradwife material

I hadn't noticed.

They complain about it only when they aren't the ones doing it. Otherwise, they love it.

Transtrender hipstery shit.

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based and woke

Yes lol. But if course transitioning has nothing to do with anything except eminating dysohoria and isn't a cry for attention.

Lmao trans hipsters

tranny 40%s

Unfathomable

40% of transoids delete their Twitter account

That's impossible. I was saying this yesterday - an unprepared double down of your shitty opinion always works! Now who will seduce all the proud boyos and pedes to /r/menslib?

Lmao sorry sweaty its a woke eat woke world

This thread is a thousand times more self righteous than anything any sjw has ever written

Chapo check.

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yikes sweaty, it's D I L A T E not D E L E T E. gender confirming tho cuz that's a bitch move 👎

r/Breadtube thread of this

It's about what you'd expect, some slight meltdowns, some discussion and a whole lot "uhm infighting and shitting on someone for saying their personal opinion on twitter is good, actually"

And this

The problem seems to be Twitter.

Nah. The problem is that she needs to listen and acknowledge that things she said accumulated into misrepresentations of swathes of the transgender community, and apologise for the harm.

Bardfinn, BelleAriel, Gallowboob and SkynetJusticeWarrior are the 4 most pathetic jannies on this website.

Twitter demands a zen-koan minimalist aphoristic style of wit. Natalie is good at the opposite - 45-minute baroque visual-aural feasts that explore every dimension of a topic.

education was a mistake

Brevity is the soul of wit, so they basically admit he's witless.

Bruh the character who said never shut up. The quote means nothing

He was also a great Bill Murray role

BelleAriel just goes with whatever opinion will get her the most karma. that's why she quit being a T_D poster in favor of a socialist. She has no opinion on any of this stuff because she's clinically retarded. She's even posted her special needs class picture before.

If you read any of her posts, she doesn't really post any thoughts on anything. She just posts one liners that parrot whatever sub she's on for karma.

Bardfinn, BelleAriel, Gallowboob and SkynetJusticeWarrior are the 4 most pathetic jannies on this website.

Lmao I didnt need you to tell me that, they prove it every single time their fingers hit the keyboard

Nazis are still on twitter and so are these retards. Imagine thinking that a tranny voicing an opinion should take into account the opinions of fake trannies before posting it

her Patreon income which I have to imagine is now at least $20K per month

How many bussy pics to get to the center of those soros/kochs bux?

Fuck if I know but if you find the answer I will get right on it cause shit imagine making 240K a year.

Lol poor people not making over 300k a year..

Triggered.

That thread is exhausting

Which part of it?

The constant nitpicking of each other's arguments, the passive-aggressiveness, jannies being jannies, the idiotic long-form texts and fucking Redditors thinking they're writing essays while they're just spewing their dumb opinions, focusing on terms like woke and why they're problematic, or something completely different?

r u out of spoons?

NB people are getting truly fucking exhausting. They should be grateful to be merely tolerated. End of.

Nonbinary is horseshit man. Like what the fuck is that even? You dont feel like your gender? Fuck off. If you dont feel like either, than just be what's between your legs. Who gives a fuck? Why is it so bad to just say you are the thing that you literally biologically are? Just because you dont feel like you fit in with what "society" views as being a girl or boy? Its fucking stupid nonsense.

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How does it feel to have gone 102 years without a meaningful victory? Marxist-Leninist are the Chicago Cubs fans of politics.

Wait didn't the Cubs win the world series in 2016? Are you saying that Donald Trump was a win for MLs?

They hate liberal democracy, so in a sense, yes, it was.

Comment less holy shit

We spent literally two decades of feminism dismantling gender roles and letting people be what they want then the fucking trannies come in and in like 6 months flat we bin all of that and end up hacking off kids nobs if they play with a doll.

Take it or leave it.

I found the whole feminine thing exhausting nonsense in puberty. And to this day find the idea that what is between my legs should define my personality/role in society as bizarre as if the moles on people's asses dictated their haircuts. All horseshit to me.

So that's why I'm non-binary. I don't care what people address me as long as they're polite. Who gives a fuck? Most interactions, including this one, are silly. I'm not sure why people like yourself seem to get so butt-hurt about it except that the media pushes it down your throats so you can get all angry at a target.

I ain't got nothing to do with that. Just let others be and ignore all the stupid shit.

Women don't have to be feminine you know

Lolz. Tell that to the local community I grew up in. But yea. I totally get your point.

Tbh I think most people really are saying the same thing in different ways. We both believe that what is between legs doesn't define a human. We just say it differently.

I like that there is a word I can use to describe the thing of not caring about feminine/masculine or finding it arbitrary in most cases. Others don't like using those words. That's fine too.

Tbh I think most people really are saying the same thing in different ways.

Yeah, one group is saying "Cool, you dont want to be labeled, that's fine" and the other is "you must call me by my self-identified label or I will rally the other tards and try to destroy your entire life."

It's a rather large difference.

agreed. But also, I guess I don't really see it as any different from people asking me to call them by their new name or maybe since it's a bit cumbersome and can feel rude, by their title.

I'll think they're asking a bit much of many people but I'm not personally fussed if it makes them happy with no skin off my back. There's some evidence suicide statistic wise that, similar with homosexual suicide rates among accepting or non-accepting communities, simple gestures of goodwill and acceptance can make a huge improvement for quality of life of strangers.

But each to their own choices. There are always assholes of every flavour. And we each have our personal preferences of what we're willing to do.

I can barely remember people's first names and now I have to remember your "new" name and you various pronouns? Nah, fuck it I'll just avoid talking to you.

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not acting like a "feminine" stereotype doesn't change your gender.

I mean this person is the perfect example of how fucking retarded this is. Nothing against them because they pointed out they dont care what people call them, so cool. But the thing is, just because you dont like pink, want short hair and hate dresses doesnt mean you arent a fucking girl. Are we going to seriously tell little girls that they arent really girls because they dont like girly things?? How fucked up is that?

woke gender essentialism

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tbh I also agree with this point myself and don't really appreciate the renewed focus the whole 'debate' (really sensationalized scandal or some shit) has brought to superficial 'markers' of gender.

I honestly usually try to leave well enough alone, unless I stumble across it, like today.

The big and only thing I like about any non-binary stance is that fundamentally it says who you are matters more than whatever you're born as. Which I like for combating sex-based discrimination (against both sexes tbc before anyone starts yelling misandrist feminazi). Anyway, the viewpoints can be nuanced unlike the polarizing caricatures constantly portrayed about everything these days.

Have a good day.

EDIT: also, yes, girls are already told they aren't girly enough as boys are told they aren't boyish enough. Non-binary isn't telling them they're not a girl. It's telling them they don't have to shape themselves to the societal role of girl just because they were born vajayjayed. Maybe we don't judge kids so harshly these days for being different to gendered expectations. But it definitely shaped my own and my parent's generation.

The big and only thing I like about any non-binary stance is that fundamentally it says who you are matters more than whatever you're born as.

One thing to consider:

By being a woman and not following the stereotypical gender roles, you show all the other girls and women in your life that those stereotypes are not natural laws.

By labeling yourself (or any non-stereotypical woman) as separate from women you teach girls that being a woman means being a stereotype.

Is that maybe because I actually do believe, from my experience, that being a woman is a stereotype?

It is for me at least. But I will understand that others have it as a big part of who they are (and as is expected because society has shaped them constantly telling them they are something that is 'woman').

Honestly, I present strongly as a woman. Other people are going to perceive me as a woman unless I can actually be bothered, but presenting masculine/feminine isn't my point as a non-binary. It's presenting myself.

By labeling yourself (or any non-stereotypical woman) as separate from women

I'm never going to label a non-stereotypical woman or any other human being anything but themselves. That's non-binary. Is that the definitions are arbitrary, people express themselves individually and uniquely regardless of what they were born as or what role or identity society tried to give them. My sister is hugely 'a tomboy' but now fulfilling a very traditional 'woman' role. What's the point trying to define her 'womanhood' when it's so obviously her humanity that matters more? The last thing I'm going to do is go around boxing in people. I just find being a human more important than any 'womanly' or 'manly' part of myself. I don't think that's a bad message for anyone, personally. For others 'being a woman' means more, and that's ok too.

You've nailed it.

This is what I've been saying about trans-women.

Wearing makeup, acting overly-feminine and fake tits don't make someone a woman.

The only thing it does is perpetuate the stereotype that you have to be super feminine, have long hair, have big fake tits, wear makeup and care about fashion if you want to be a woman whereas there are plenty of real women who don't care about those things.

It's just making the stereotype worse.

I don't walk around huffing and puffing, work out constantly, constantly talk about sports and 'how much pussy I'm going to get tonight'.... but am still a man for fucks sake.

I don't walk around huffing and puffing, work out constantly, constantly talk about sports and 'how much pussy I'm going to get tonight'.... but am still a man for fucks sake.

I got some bad news bucko

I also agree with this. Please have this one thing clear:

Non-binary =/= transgender.

I like the part of transgender ideology that just has them be who they are whoever that is, whatever gender they feel, or sex they were born into. I dislike (intensely) the performative section of their ideology that reduces themselves and humans to some fake superficial markers to 'pass'. The latter part is just as harmful as traditional gender roles and sex-based discrimination imo.

The term "show, don't tell" is lost on ree'ing dumbasses, who knew?

Nonbinary means neither gender lol it don’t real

It’s all a moral panic centered around perceived roles in society, nothing more.

no. My entire point is that not fitting in with a stereotype makes you find the whole act of stereotyping nonsensical and imo largely doing more harm than good. Non-binary isn't a statement of switching genders, it's a negation of gender itself. If we don't arbitrarily sort people into societal roles based on sex anymore (more or less) why do we need to keep the antiquated ideas surrounding those sex-based gender roles? Especially if from now-grown girls and boys I've talked to it actually just made everything a whole lot more awkward.

Some people like the stereotypes that's fine.

People want to dress girls in pink and boys in blue whatevs. As long as neither feel constrained to some weird ideal of behavour I'm happy. Non-binary seemed to fit that bill. Cos, it's kinda in the title. I'm not sure when it became strictly trans or dysphoria-based but I call bullshit on that.

Non-binary isn't a statement of switching genders, it's a negation of gender itself.

If your stance is that gender is imaginary and fake, I can run with that. You can base a coherent worldview on that. It's kinda where the old-school feminists are coming from.

But believing that gender is real while also believing that you can "negate gender"... that's gonna result in a pretty contradictory worldview.

Are you not confusing gender identity with gender roles? Or confusing gender itself with an opinion about gender?

not fitting in with a stereotype makes you find the whole act of stereotyping nonsensical

Of course. However it doesn't stop you from being a woman. You don't stop being a woman just because you like trucks and dislike sun-dresses. The whole point of feminism (until ~2010) was to overcome this kind of essentialism.

Maybe there is some use for a term that signifies "I'm not a stereotypical girl/boy." But if that's all "non-binary" means, how in tf are all those twitter enbys acting oppressed?

No this was a good response. And I realize I misspoke before...kinda.

I find the widespread use of gender 'roles' or how society treats you as a woman or man so 'gender identity' something that we could all move on from without losing anything. The feminine man, the masculine woman, the tomboy girl, the effeminate boy, everyone is already expressing themselves on a spectrum (when society lets them) and trying to pin down the essence of woman/man I don't think is necessary to battle sex-based discrimination.

I'm opposed to the philosophy of trans where they curate a gender identity based on superficial markers as truth ('passing') and use that to judge others' chosen self-expression. But I'm more than in agreement with them switching roles or identity in society or just one vs the other because 1) it doesn't affect me, and 2) it helps society move past expecting all young girls and boys to act in some coordinated manner.

So by treating gender as an infinite spectrum where people fall between the two unreal extremes of hyper-masculine man and hyper-feminine woman the idea of a gender identity becomes more your personal mode of self-expression.

We as a species have never lived in a completely gender role-to-sex separated society before (although we've had third genders that still was a very well-defined role and identity). So I might be wrong and we don't have a spectrum so much as a 'smushed binary'. We'll see. :)

Of course. However it doesn't stop you from being a woman.

But, like, what even is a woman supposed to be? Am I a woman just because of a vagina? A uterus? Woman is just a hang-on from gender-roles being linked to biology. There are biologically females and males and intersex and Down's. End of the day we don't define human by the number of chromosomes. Why should we define woman the same?

all those twitter enbys acting oppressed

Yea. Never been on twitter really and never plan to. But from what I understand they experience a more severe version of what I went through in puberty where society is holding up an ideal image of what you should be, but you know emphatically that you're not. And you'd really just wish they'd hold up a mirror so you can be who you are as you are. I really just think there are a lot of damaged people being loud. Men and women domestic abuse victims in MRA and radical feminism, sexual assault victims anti-sex worker. Hurt people scream.

Also people don't deal well with inconsistency in others, that's why they like solid gender roles and gender identity, you know what to expect from people. If you're fluidly changing how you express yourself and people are insecure (as most people are) then they don't like that much. From what I gather Non-binary who strongly express themselves have quite a loud genderfluid identity which changes quite a bit. I'm on a slower path like most people, some days you feel feminine some days you feel masculine, all days you're just yourself. Non-binary just lets you cross stereotypes more easily with less people feeling entitled to try to control you back into the boxes they know.

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So that's why I'm non-binary. I don't care what people address me as long as they're polite.

Sorry sweaty you're a fake enby, real enbies experience intense dysphoria, panic attacks, and suicidal ideation when addressed as anything other than "they/them" (or whatever their pronouns are). Your privileged nonchalant attitude KILLS PEOPLE and is no different from what Natalie did.

Fuck off with your gate-keeping nonsense.

I get the same shit for being bisexual. Shove it.

Do real enbies even exist tho?

wtf is a 'real' non-binary? A 'real' woman, a 'real' man. This is getting into gold-star lesbianism area where people shit on other people because of some arbitrary standard. You've had penis, you must be bisexual! You're not a REAL lesbian. You haven't had any encounters with men as a man, you're not gay!

Why are you so busy invalidating people because for some reason they don't fit the box you think they should?

Calm down sweaty.

I'm asking if enbies who get dysphoric when called by gendered pronouns even exist, or are all enbies like you and don't actually care about pronouns. Because if they don't then the whole brouhaha was about hurt feelings of nonexistent people.

Why are you asking me to judge the existence or not of some other human being's experience?

Do you have nothing else in your life except looking down or finding ways to look down on others?

"Sweaty", are you OK?

For what it's worth I've never met any non-binary who got offended, ever. I know a couple friends now who, like me, just quietly found all the stereotypes pretty bullshit but just present as themselves by whatever sex they were born as default for their gender presentation. Probably it would be jarring for them to be called a gender pronoun other than what they look like but they also wouldn't really care, same as if they were called they/them. One of them just thinks the whole idea of self-identity is fake and stupid anyway.

My guess is a strongly presenting non-binary that invested in appearing androgynous because that's how they strongly feel themselves might get butt-hurt when jarred by being called a binary gender? And you're most likely to encounter people with this strong presentation/identity on social media channels than in real-life?

The hurt over pronouns could be kinda like how some people think they've dressed up black-tie event and then someone asks if they're going to wallmart? But like on a life-time of trauma being shamed for not presenting 'properly'. Then yea, that'd be pretty hurtful to go through and ya might question a lot about how you even look to others, or if your effort to exist in the way you feel inside has ever succeeded or will ever succeed.

I honestly don't really get people getting offended when honest mistakes are easily made. That's pretty bs and entitled. Ya gotta work with people on their level.

whole brouhaha was about hurt feelings of nonexistent people.

I think you need to get off the teh webs for a bit and have some fresh air maybe?

I only stumbled into r /Drama cos of the Contrapoints mention. This whole taking offense thing by everyone is old as time, we just have more channels to blast our specific butt-hurt over. Talking with people irl is better. And better for your sanity.

No, don't reply like this, please do another wall of unhinged rant please.

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Sweaty calm down now.

For what it's worth I've never met any non-binary who got offended, ever.

Yeah, that's my point. I can imagine not feeling any gender in particular ("cis by default" etc), I can imagine identifying as both or not giving a fuck, but I have trouble imagining specifically identifying as no gender and requiring gender neutral pronouns or else you suffer gender dysphoria.

And then we have Natalie saying that she'd rather not have a say your pronouns because she is binary-identifying and this is triggering, and then the enbys are universally like well I personally don't give a fuck about pronouns, but what if there exist the unicorn enby that is triggered by not having referred to as they/them, you're dismissing our existence.

This is retarded in various ways.

Congratulations for scaring her off twitter, what right-wingers failed to do the lefties achieved easily, good job!

lol. Whut?

Congratulations for scaring her off twitter, what right-wingers failed to do the lefties achieved easily, good job!

Yea, try pushing blame onto someone else. You are a strange individual. Just read the sub guidelines tho so feeling like I got off pretty lightly here all up.

I have trouble imagining specifically identifying as no gender and requiring gender neutral pronouns or else you suffer gender dysphoria.

It's not your problem to understand another person's existence. So don't worry about that. It's literally none of your business, lol. But if you want to twist your undies over it, go for gold. But it's your hand scrunching and twisting yourself offended. Not mine nor others.

Natalie saying that she'd rather not have a say your pronouns because she is binary-identifying and this is triggering

Look, Natalie is the first youtube crush I've ever had, I'm still subbed and have spammed her content. And that's absolute entitled, unempathic bs on her part. If you expect to be treated with kindness and understanding, treat others the same. Use their preferred pronouns too. I'd hope any non-binary would take the high road of still referring to Natalie as her instead of the petty route of insisting on calling her they, or being an asshole like her and misgendering her.

Both of y'all are forgetting that the third gender is by far the oldest of the non-binary and transgender pronoun custom of crossing binary lines. Ignoring that because it triggers some existential crisis in Natalie or yourself is no better than some snarky gender role traditionalist misgendering people on purpose because facing the idea that being a man or a woman is something you might not just be born as automatically is too disturbing for them.

Like get fucked. You don't get to expect shit from others than complain about them expecting shit from you. Nobody owes anyone anything. Ever. Natalie is being entitled and ignorant. But since this is all second-hand from some sweaty queen in r/ drama, I'll look up the facts myself. And regardless. Unsubbing or whatever the fuck petty action is not worth it over such an obvious misunderstanding. People need to stroke out their punishment kinks in private.

Posts like this is why I do Heroine.

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Congratulations for scaring her off twitter, what right-wingers failed to do the lefties achieved easily, good job!

Yea, try pushing blame onto someone else.

That was what happened. The blame goes where it belongs.

It's not your problem to understand another person's existence.

You see, you operate on a usual leftie delusion that one's opinion is either correct and morally correct, or wrong and so morally wrong. There's no compromise.

So in this fight between binary transesses and enbys that invoke the existence of the "true enbies" as a given but uniformly fail to present as one, I'm, like, ok, can you please all decide on what you want and then vote for that and then we see who wants what, and then we vote on stuff like "I need this non-negotiable, and for the rest ...", and so on.

Instead of that the fight between binary transesses and enbys is entirely retarded. I am now convinced that "true enbies" don't exist, plain and simple.

You see, you operate on a usual leftie delusion that one's opinion is either correct and morally correct, or wrong and so morally wrong. There's no compromise.

Nope. But if you don't see that then I don't see much point explaining.

fight between binary transesses and enbys

Y'know what? Maybe a fight is only there if you feed it? This feels very much like the position of radfems against transgender rights because scaremongering around misandrist delusions of male sexual assault in bathrooms. You can see the hyping up on each side to enjoy the drama. At the end of the day there are those that stoke the fires and like the heat and those that go on with their lives.

Even this whole 'leftie' vs 'rightie' business. Whatever you think constitutes a 'true enbie'....idgaf. Those humans, like homosexuals, like transgenders, like straights, are going to exist whether you believe in them or not. And you're going to have a very frustrated and sad existence trying to push people back into your imaginary boxes.

Find a better, less-destructive, hobby.

The only thing regressive (retarded is actually rather rude don't y'know?) about this whole thing is people lighting fake bonfires to dance around them and declare their 'side' has 'won'.

Y'know what? Maybe a fight is only there if you feed it?

There is a question of policy: should people proactively ask for pronouns or not? When they do it frustrates binary transesses, because it shows that they don't pass. When they don't it supposedly frustrates "true enbies".

"Why can't we all just be friends" is not a valid answer to a yes or no question like that. You have to decide: do you do that or not?

Whatever you think constitutes a 'true enbie'....idgaf. Those humans, like homosexuals, like transgenders, like straights, are going to exist whether you believe in them or not.

But do they in fact exist in any appreciable numbers, or at all? You don't know anyone who qualifies, I find it hard to imagine biological causes for that condition.

This is not a question of autistically putting people into boxes for the sake of it vs letting them be whatever, or claiming that binary transesses are more legitimate than enbies or any such oversocialized crap.

The point of asking that is that if they don't exist after all then the above conundrum happily resolves so we can admit that the well-intentioned custom of asking for pronouns was a mistake and stop hurting real people.

Yeah, I’ll happily let you be and ignore you.

back when I was a kid you were still a girl, you were just a tomboy. My cousin played hockey, wore jeans, etc, we just thought she was a tomboy.

Back when I was a kid, my sister was a tomboy. I probs was one too.

But why was there a need to define them as something other? Something not boy? Something still girl? Why not just call them a kid? Why not just appreciate their interests instead of flavoring them pink/blue?

Why bother with stereotypes that are proved wrong all the time? Girls weren't meant to be good at maths, boys weren't meant to be nurturing. It's all bs.

They should be grateful to be merely tolerated.

This goes for all these fuckers. Troids, noids, and so on.

EXCUSE ME but "NB" was officially trademarked by some other minority (I think some kind of gay black people or something) so you are NOT allowed to call them that. They are "enbys" you fucking shitlord.

I thought "NB" stood for "Nota Bene" which means "take special notice"

Well they do demand that everyone stop what they’re doing and pay attention to them.

Cause foids love making up shit for attention.

"uhm infighting and shitting on someone for expressing their personal opinion on twitter is good, actually"

So much for don't punch left zulul

My thoughts after having read the comments.

Twitter is inherently, due to it's limited character medium, not friendly to complex thoughts.

Twitter is best for...random punchy thoughts, jokes, intense emotions and warnings about incoming nuclear missiles.

Any complex idea has to be simplified and condensed to fit onto Twitter which means details/nuances get left behind.

If I knew Natalie personally, I would encourage her to post her thoughts online in long form, instead of hyper flash short form, even if anonymously. Facebook, a blog, essays whatever.

In summary, Twitter would make Neil Postman cry and if you post complex thoughts, a subsection of the population won't understand them.

Damn, a leftoid finally discovers what twitter is for...

this may actually spell the end for any hope of a unified left front if contra is driven away

imagine having any hope of that in the year of our lord 2k19

BF single handedly claims credit for getting T_D quarantined.

hahahahahahahaaa

I feel like she started moving more center politically once she realized all that was needed to make money was a bit of work (aka make a patron)

Contrapoints was born into wealth and had an expensive university education paid for by rich-ass parents.

So just another spoiled kid who became a champagne socialist? Truly shocking!

Yeah but she self-destructed and rebuilt, which is self-made success of a sort.

basically damaging yourself to build uber

I guess wealth begets wealth just in interesting ways this time.

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Xe committed xer the 40% stat on her Twitter account, huh? Who would have thought such a woke soldier, would fall prey to a simple statistic? This is p good for dramacoin though so lmao enjoy the tendies bois and lady bois

Dramacoin stock rising. SELL SELL SELL

No not yet . take a chance and hold out. There is a 40% chance it will pay off.

real #HODL gang hours, who up?!

I wanna get a hang on the stock market and forex trading apps solely so i can enjoy the memes on /r/wallstreetbets

I fucking told you all. Meteoric rise and epic fall.

Hmmm, not sure yet.

One, I feel like wokies have some level of variation from platform to platform. YouTube is creator driven, so the biggest freaks tend to be filtered out from there, especially as those are the types that are prime fodder for what's left of the Rational ™ Skeptical © Liberalists.

Twitter is more individually driven, meaning that the freaks have more of a direct voice, especially as the platform seems specifically designed for freaks in the first place. She's a leftist which means she is incapable of passing up getting paid a shit ton of money for barely any work when given the chance, just the patreonbux alone will be enough to keep her going. I'd say she's likely to just come back and ignore Twitter.

She's a leftist which means she is incapable of passing up getting paid a shit ton of money for barely any work when given the chance

That's the beauty of capitalism. If people perceive what you're providing as valuable, they'll pay for it. Even of other people absolutely hate it. You may not like her brand, but some people see value in it and are paying her to see more. I wouldn't hold that against her, in fact I respect her for it.

Lmao I'm not criticizing her for the fact she makes bank, good on her for it. I just hate the hypocrisy of anti-capitalists becoming upper-middle class by asking their fans for their NEETbux

This new “passable” fad thats caught on is really white male patriarchy adhering to heteronormative beauty standards. I mean if these chapocells were just a little prettier maybe they wouldnt be raping women in their communist rape limos.

Trans and eating their own name a better combo

something along the lines of “Non-Binary people don’t exist”

Recently I heard something to the effect that non-binary people are disproportionately upper-middle class and rich. Trans people who identify as either male or female, on the other hand, are more equally spread along class lines.

Any truth in this? I hate rich college kids and this would be enough for me to conclude that "non-binary people" are just in it for attention.

Most of the nb women I know are just straight cis chicks who want to compete in the oppression olympics. Before they were NB they claimed they were Bi and once they realized no one cares about bi people they moved on. I'm not saying they're all like this. I know some who actually are what a normal person would consider non binary and it makes sense to recognize their struggle

Most of the nb women I know are just straight cis chicks who want to compete in the oppression olympics.

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who actually are what a normal (lmao) person would consider non binary and it makes sense to recognize their struggle with mental illness.

Fixed that shit for you.

I'm not saying they're all like this.

They are

Non-binary and queer are retarded bullshit by attention seekers who wanna be in the woke opression groups.

It makes sense like what is even non binary? its basically I am a special snowflake that transcends gender with the added bonus of getting woke points for it. I could claim to be non binary, put a dress on once in a while and it would basically never affect my life.

You don't even have to put a dress on to claim enby. You can present entirely consistent with your birth gender and just state you are non binary, it is literally just a statement of identity with zero effort required.

You can present entirely consistent with your birth gender and just state you are non binary.

This is exactly what Zoe Quinn does.

NBs are tiresome, but there aren’t enough of them to be a major nuisance. What’s worse are the people who we all know don’t truly care about them, but pretend to do so for virtue points. NBs are already passively tolerated, that should be good enough for them.

Passive toleration should be the norm for all identity groups in society. No discrimination. No celebration.

mate, I had this perspective last year, since then they've been coming out of the woodwork. Every girl who would have been a tomboy in yesteryear is now "negating gender" or some shit

There are a LOT of more poor trans ppl out there. When you hear people go on about "it's so dangerous to be trans so many of us get murdered each year!!", that number is almost 100% black trans sex workers. For some reason though they hardly ever get talked about

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something along the lines of “Non-Binary people don’t exist”

Any truth in this? I hate rich college kids and this would be enough for me to conclude that "non-binary people" are just in it for attention.

Who cares. Just say it is and act accordingly. It's not as though all this gender-faggotry is anything other than true because people say it is. We're not dealing with objective reality, fam. Please don't act as though we are.

I read it on the internet so it doesn't real matter does it

their

um, sweaty....

Better have a shower before you start to stink.

Trannys are so dramatic

and that’s a good thing

Dave Chappelle is a comedic genius. I laughed my ass off. What initial would that be?

imagine my surprise

It’s times like this that make me wonder how the Soviet Union would have turned out if trannies were a thing back then. Like would the Bolsheviks have even gotten to the initial uprising part of the revolution if there were a bunch of he-she’s arguing about pronouns instead of important shit like killing the Romanovs?

Also, I don't believe Lenin ever legalized homosexuality. He just threw out the whole tsarist code and they never got around to criminalizing it. I'm not sure if Lenin was cool with frotting and what not.

Despite being a complete fag, I am afraid to say he was not.

Soviets didn't even have a geniune law system until 1922 iirc

This is like The French Revolution in which the Revolution ate his children. The difference is at least FR had a spesific goal and end, these lefties and LGBTQ+ 2.0 Premium Gold Elite V46 types has no clear goal or endgame so they'll always eat themselves ad infinitum. And that's very very good. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

She is not alt-right she always acted like a crypto fascist to coax genuine fashcuck groypers over the Isle of nails

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They have a term for cancel culture among themselves. A Purity Test. It's literally inquisition by another name. Fucking hell.

Nobody expects the Tranish Inquisition!

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Contra did a good debate like 2 years ago I think with Blair white if you actually give a shit about trans issues and perspectives, I think Blair had an effect on her poor tumblr brain washed existence.

give a shit about trans issues

Lol

Yikes, there is so much to unpack here chief.

oh god no. not tran mommy. anyone but her

Next contrapoints video will be called ‘Twitter’, calling it now

Damn... i'm a hardcore leftist by centrist standards but what in the everliving fuck is this bullshit. Honestly feels like a fucking joke. This is why leftists are so ridiculed and made fun off because they're just such hypocritical overly emotional fuckwads. I mean shit I thought I was the superemo cocksucker but nah.

If there's one thing that can take down a leftist, it's not a right wing neo nazi or a thatcher foot sniffer, but a slightly different leftist.

Zinnia Jones accusing ContraPoints of playing the victim, possibly going to turn to alt-right crowd: https://twitter.com/ZJemptv/status/1169394193506164736

Made one comment in the thread and already got banned :(

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