German chapo politician who declared nazi emergency asks for sources of migrant crimes and OP delivers.

245  2019-11-03 by sup3r_hero

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Let's talk about the real issue here, which is that the Party Leader is doing an AMA with an 8 year old active account and doesnt feel fucking embarrassed to death.

I wish there was a way to tell what subs a account subscribed to

Haha he’s apparently a frequent user of r/gaming

Do you have a source on that?

Source?

A source. I need a source.

Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.

No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.

You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.

Do you have a degree in that field?

A college degree? In that field?

Then your arguments are invalid.

No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.

Correlation does not equal causation.

CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.

You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.

Nope, still haven't.

I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a glormpf supporter. A moron.

Bruh he claimed that that something happens frequently. Guy asks for source that it happens frequently. Instead of posting statistics he posts two incidents. That is not a source showing it is frequent.

It's like how sharing two articles about foids fucking dogs isn't proof that foids fuck dogs all the time. Of course we all know they fuck dogs but those two articles on their own aren't proof that it happens all the time... especially considering how untrustworthy mainstream media is.

I don't fucking care about the rest of their retarded arguments but rightoids posting two 3 year old articles as "proof" of something happening all the time is fucking braindead.

Also fuck OP for setting the context to 1, leaving out half of the damn context.

Considering this dipshit politician is unironically declaring a Nazi emergency because people have opinions he doesn't like, that poster unintentionally made a very good point that none of this shit matters.

Yeah but he is posting those two incidents in response to the politician using a couple incidents to say there is a neo nazi problem.

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Yeah just one incident your mom fucking dogs made you so is that a statistic?

German pilpoul.

Erm sweaty I know this is the comment section on a semi-anonymous internet forum but you typed something I disagree with so I'm going to have to ask you to treat this like you're writing a masters thesis and make correct citations. Cambridge format preferably.

There are so many fallacies in this conversation I'm about to short circuit

Who the hell is raiding that thread? This guy is like the reddit virtue signaler's wet dream. There's no way he'd be getting wrecked like this organically

europeans

SRS

Ah yes, Stupid Retard Syndrome.

The top post has a little more than 50 upvotes. I think it’s more that no one gives a fuck about some German politician pirate besides butt hurt “but da Muslims” and butt hurt “but da Nazis” losers.

Anyone who cares about anything is a fag.

I don't know, but I smell drama.

Is anyone else tired of Germans? Why don't the civilised countries just get together and build a wall around Germany?

Make retarded decision > get owned > go full rightard > get destroyed > make retarded decision > get owned > go full rightard.

Literally just a cycle of death caused by the eternal kraut's absolute lack of foresight.

"A German can't tell a lie without believing it." That's where these mass delusions come from.

The greatest lie of all time was Germans convincing anyone that they're the master race https://youtu.be/4ztOV2wrrkY

Judging by the market experiment all you goyims got destroyed in the master race competition 😉

lmao you're not supposed to keep replying once you're called out in AMAs, that goes double if the guy calling you out has a source, you're supposed to just ignore it

The guy keeps digging his own grave on purpose, can't feel sorry for him.

and OP delivers.

Not really. He gave some pretty shit examples. The man in the first article is Eritrean, but supposedly: Man accused of pushing German boy under train suffers from schizophrenia - Believe what you will about that.

The second article with all the supposed examples of migrant violence doesn't name any of the perpetrators. Maybe they all were foreigners, but his article doesn't say shit about it. You can dismiss two of the incidents regardless of the ethnicity.

In September 2018, an 18-year-old man pushed a 43-year-old on the train tracks in Cologne following a dispute, yet the victim did not sustain any injuries.

So they had an argument and he pushed her. Doesn't sound like a premeditated ideological driven attack.

The final incident sounds like an accident:

Also in Berlin in March 2019, an unknown perpetrator bumped into a 34-year-old man, pushing him into the track. In the process, the victim broke his neck vertebra.

Yet before the perpetrator fled, he pulled the victim back onto the platform.

Shit examples is all I'm saying.

There's also the noble savage who killed his girlfriend and their baby (by stabbing and decapitation) at a metro station in Hamburg.

And just a few days ago a Iranian dude was killed by two Arabs in Berlin. They were robbing a guy in a wheelchair, he tried to stop them, so they pushed him in front of the train.

I guess I might have confused the issue at hand. I assumed the argument being made was that these attacks were motivated by Islam. But I guess you guys are simply saying migrants are inherently more violent than the native Germans? Maybe so. I don't know much about German crime statistics. Things have a way of changing pretty quickly though. The Germans were the violent ones not too long ago. I'd take my chances with the 2019 migrants over the 1940 Germans.

As for your two examples here, the first one was supposedly over a custody issue. Is that a migrant issue? An Islam issue? Or just some psychotic guy. Your second example isn't the best example. Two Arabs (migrants?) who I assume are Muslim tried to rob someone and an Iranian (migrant?) who I assume is Muslim died trying to stop them?

Just some more shit examples from you rightoids. I'm sure you can find some guy in Germany screaming Allahu Akbar while mowing people down.

Regardless, I'm not advocating a migrant takeover of Europe. I think there are some major religious and cultural differences at play. I'd rather the western Europeans stay irreligious/atheist than Islam spread.

But I guess you guys are simply saying migrants are inherently more violent than the native Germans? Maybe so. I don't know much about German crime statistics.

They are on average but it is a fairly complicated matter. There is a huge difference between different nationalities: Algerians e.g. commit about 6 times as many violent crimes as Syrians in Germany. There's also a difference in terms of what crimes they commit, pickpockets in particular are mostly immigrants.

It's an interesting matter but most people who look up this kind of statistics only spend 5 minutes on it looking for some random facts to support their arguments. Few people are interested in digging deeper into the numbers and attempting to get an unbiased understanding of it. It's even more interesting when you compare different countries too: Lebanese people in Denmark e.g. commit way more crimes than Lebanese people in Germany wheras the opposite is true for other nationalities. Why is that?

migrants are inherently more violent than the native Germans

inherently?

it doesn't really matter whether it's due to their environment, their experiences, their culture, or DNA. no matter why, they're more likely to be violent.

I'd take my chances with the 2019 migrants over the 1940 Germans.

are 1940s Germans are concern for you? do you have a time machine?

Jesus fucking Christ he's just pointing out how retarded and hypocritical it is to declare a "neo-nazi emergency" over a few incidents while ignoring crimes from other demographics. it's so simple and you're here writing a book about it.

Seethe.

Is that better?

Why do you like fireplaces so much?

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The life & times of a jannie.

I agree that the attempted killing of foids shouldn't be a crime as is dictated by the Qur'an, inshallah brother.

I think the point was he was baited into saying that that's not super often and infrequent, without realizing it applies to his argument about Nazis.

I guess, but I agree with him that the examples listed barely apply to the point the user was trying to make about migrants.

>be impious afripoor or pakicel
>don't give a shit about religion
>go to Europe
>don't listen to Islam
>drink alcohol, fuck gussy, smoke devil's lettuce
>cognitive dissonance time
>get crazy
>commit crimes that are forbidden in Islam
>cucked britbongs blame Islam

profit

commit crimes that are forbidden in Islam

dude you can't do that, it's illegal, that's not islamic of you

Fucking big brain over here.

>someone commits a murder which is against the law
>whatincoversation: "I blame the law for this murder". "No, not the person who did the crime or the fact that he came from a shithole country. The law that told him not to do it is to blame"

Fucking galaxy brain take.

basic societal laws = an entire religion

Islam is the worst religion. Just be a Jew, Christian, or, if you insist on doing something foreign, a Sikh. They're all far superior to Islam and monotheistic. There is literally no reason to stay Muslim except an uncontrollable desire for murder.

Radical centrist take: migrants kill people and so do Nazis.

Nobody in that thread thinks it is possible for both migrants and Nazis to kill people. It's either migrants or Nazis to them.

No, OP was just baited into saying that the migrant crimes were "just a bunch of unconnected incidents" to highlight the overreaction of calling for a "nazi emergency" after a few right wing violent incidents. Either both are emergencies, or they aren't.

Nazis are the migrants of ideologies.

Except migrants actually exist.

nazis can't kill people didn't you see that pathetic german guy who tried to shoot up a synagogue

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Based and misanthropic

If Nazis are such a big fucking deal then maybe they should have a sequel to the Nuremberg trials.

Because I guess they didn't get all of the Nazis the first time.

nazis can't kill people didn't you see that pathetic german guy who tried to shoot up a synagogue

Please respect that Nazi, he has special needs, you're being very ableist right now

It's really amazing how nobody can take an aggregate view of the dynamic that is happening.

As in, there is a dynamic whose rules and context are hard to contemplate but at the surface, people are being killed or hurt in the ways that can only be associated with an increased inflow of immigrants.

The never-ending "two sides" battle of whose crimes are worse or whose crimes are of pattern nature is wholly irrelevant - it is the novelty of never prior seen criminal activity and social anxiety that exists, anxiety that did not exist 20 years ago and whose ONLY source is uncontrolled and overwhelming inflow of shitty people.

At one point in future, the frequency and intensity of these crimes will exceed anything we are seeing today unless something changes.

And that's all everyone should be concerned with.

My only goal as a Burger is to look at Europe in 10-20 years and say: “yikes, just doesn’t seem safe to visit, you know? Very backwards and violent place”.

The seethe will be biblical.

I mean, you can hope, but you'll fail badly. The early 90s in Europe were far more violent in many countries, with tons of gang wars, bombings, murders, etc.

Crime is at a 26-year record low in Germany.

No, recorded crime numbers are at a record low.

  • german police (as well as german courts) have stopped investigating, charging for and prosecuting many types of crimes. They simply don't have the necessary manpower.

  • as a result people have stopped reporting those crimes.

But even if crime itself decreases, that doesn't imply Germany is getting safer. People adjust their behavior to avoid new danger that wasn't present before.

In many smaller cities large parts of the public space have become more dangerous. People adjust to this by avoiding those places -- instead of hanging out in the city center like they used to in the 2000s, they avoid it. Less crime happens, because sitting at home in front of your laptop screen is pretty safe, but crime in the city center per person hanging out there has increased. There are also places that are pretty safe if you're arab looking, but dangerous if you're German looking.

german police (as well as german courts) have stopped investigating, charging for and prosecuting many types of crimes. They simply don't have the necessary manpower.

I thought those were the Brits.

as a result people have stopped reporting those crimes.

Of course they have. And you know this because of reasons and because you get scared by darkies.

but crime in the city center per person hanging out there has increased.

Did you seriously bold the phrase "per person hanging out there" and expected to be taken seriously? Both overall and violent crime in particular is down, check PKS.

This is some premium cope you've served me, thank you.

Did you seriously bold the phrase "per person hanging out there" and expected to be taken seriously?

What's wrong, do you sincerely not understand what I'm referring to?

There are large parts of my parents' small city, which used to be popular in the evenings or on weekends for all people, and now are too dangerous to go for most people.

So most people don't go there anymore. And the ones who do go won't report even violent crimes to the police.

Both overall and violent crime in particular is down

More precisely, the reports of crime are down.

  • for nonviolent crimes: because it's not being reported. People stop reporting those crimes not because (as you suggest) they're "scared of darkies", but because they know it's a waste of time.

  • for violent crimes: because people adjust their behavior to avoid the areas where they will be victimized.

check PKS.

Compare PKS (Table 62) with population statistics (the official estimates on destatis.de for how many people from each country of origin are currently located in Germany).

Seriousposting in drama🤭🤭

like you

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More precisely, the reports of crime are down.

for nonviolent crimes: because it's not being reported. People stop reporting those crimes not because (as you suggest) they're "scared of darkies", but because they know it's a waste of time.

for violent crimes: because people adjust their behavior to avoid the areas where they will be victimized.

source: your gaping bussy

  • do you think people avoid a place if they know they'll get harassed or attacked there?

  • do you think people stop reporting crimes if they learn reporting is just a waste of time?

This is a big pile of COPE

Exactly. Crime was more rampant in Compton when george bush loved there than when Eazy-e did because the police just stopped showing up or recording shit. If you had a job where one specific area required 1000x more work than the others you would avoid it too

Is kidnapping one of those crimes they stopped investigating? I know from experience the British police wont lift a finger to stop you, but can I also get a young Frauline and Aryan Amazon to go along with my British schoolgirl, London partygirl and trashy Chav?

And American crime is going down too, but we still get jokes about it. Man up, Kraut.

Wack. Guess I’ll just keep dodging beetus-tipped assault rifle rounds and coping.

God I can't wait for that. 🇺🇲

I see that, you too, are a nazi.

But seriously, it’s impossible to have an honest discussion about it. The climate is so tense that people blindly fall to either side and defend it with without any sense of reality. When you argue that both the development of islam and the rise of rightoids is concerning, you are either a nazi or a race traitor, depending on who you are talking to. This while the actual neonazis are walking down streets and women get murdered for not wearing headscarves right before our eyes.

Muh social anxiety maymay

Are you naturally this subhumanly retarded or did your mom breastfeeding you fent as a child caused it?

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When you like downloading torrents so much you make a political party.

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The eternal german strikes again

Germans, this time finding a solution to the German problem.

Arthur Harris had one

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i wasn't doxxed, but i don't enjoy reddit as much as i used to. it feels like an addiction or a distraction at the moment and it's surprisingly sad how often i am noticing myself think "oh you should take a picture of this and share it" or "that's a funny story you should post this", i don't seem to enjoy doing things for the sake of it any more and rather it's me trying to get reactions out of people, whether that's disgust or laughter. last month i challenged myself to take a week off reddit because i noticed i was on it too much, i lasted 2 days and then started coming back on now, so recently i just thought fuck it i need to be able to go more than 2 days without going on here, that's not healthy. i was going to write something more in depth but i really just need to stop coming on here for a while, i said a month to myself so i'll go for that. the more time i spend on reddit, the less time i spend doing other things and it's not worth it for me. i see people spending so much time on social media and said i never wanted to be like them but i have become like that. so ill probably make a blog/video/something in a few weeks just to talk about it properly because i think a lot of people will be in similar positions and won't be aware of it or willing to try and change.

there's a lot on my mind at the moment so i just need to step back and think about what i should do now.

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He delivered two isolated cases. Woopdedoo.
Guess it's Kraut-politicians' turn to post three articles about Nazis killing migrants so he's ahead again.

How the fuck does posting singular incidents prove anything?

Why do all right-wingers get mad when nazis are insulted?

Same reason antifa gets mad when a gay poc writes for the quillet

My basic human right to bear arms and not have unwanted, violent migrants forced upon our us? What benefit do they bring to our society?

How many white Europeans need to die before you declare a “migrant emergency”?

Are mutts even listening to themselves rn? Underrage, pimply coomer NEETS in trench coats have a kill count psycho muzzie immigrants take years to reach in the whole of Europe.

Some tumblr-level of self unawareness.