Never understood why these people want even villians to accept these no sexism,racism,transpobia etc. rules. Isn't the point of the villian to be an evil bad person?
No, the point of the villain, as with every other American cartoon marketed towards children (but mostly enjoyed by developmentally arrested adults), is to softly reaffirm the viewer's existing political outlook and inoffensively flirt with the heroine for ship-baiting.
Reddit users only like generic capeshit villains. They don’t like to have the conversation that morality isn’t an easy grasp and in the real world it’s not that easy to label who’s a hero and who’s a villain most of the time. It’s why so many of them hate centrism and people who don’t pick sides in politics.
What I always hated about any kind of children movies is that there is this kind and always good and helpful hero main character and the rude evil mad villian who plans evil but the hero stops him everytime. But this is really not how the world works, in reality everyone thinks of themselves as the good guy. and just figuring out who is the real good guy is hard, when in the children movie the mad scientist tells you how evil he is. I don't know why people care about violence influencing the children, when teaching children this black and white thinking is way more dangerous.
Karel Čapek dedicated his life to writing about the agony of human blindness. He built a legacy depicting people either unable or unwilling to see their site and situation for what they are. A great radical centrist in the most macro sense, neither sympathetic nor opposed to human life and folly. Good shit.
They want to make it seem like named pronouns is a natural part of language instead of a respect reason. I don’t think a villain would train himself to use the correct pronouns for someone It literally makes no sense why one would.
Even funnier is that pronouns aren’t personal. Pronouns are meant to make speaking easier and avoid repetition in sentences. If they’re used as names it defeats the entire purpose. We call things he or she so others can observe and understand who we are referring to. If you look opposite to your identity no one is gonna know who im referring too and defeats the purpose.
China, in their infinite wisdom, didn't bother with gendered pronouns, just ta means he and she. Ta-min means plural them. ni means you, ni-min means plural you. Wu means me/I wu-min means plural us. Too bad their written language is pants on head retarded or it might be a viable alternative to retarded bastardizations of Latin.
It's written differently tho. Male, female, animal, and "other" have a different conjugative part in writing, which is important since Chinese is only really a common written language, as even dialects are often mutually unintelligible.
In fairness gendered pronouns made perfect sense before the internet and the age of not necessarily knowing the gender of the person on the other side of the computer and the mass delusion of being another gender that it enabled.
Did they forget that people who give themselves retarded nicknames are looked at by normal people as lunatics? Unless you're extremely famous or something.
The best thing to do is to refer to someone as 'person' or some neutral variation. This has the advantage of being both completely respectful, and also pissing off the guy who no longer gets his special label.
I mean that's the thing about pronouns - they are facts about people. Sure you could refer to someone with the incorrect fact but all it would do is muddle your meaning.
Yeah, if I called him "him" instead of "xir" everyone would be completely bewildered and have no idea what I was talking about.
When we treat pronouns as "preferences" and things that need to be "respected" I think we give a lot of wiggle room for cis people to fuck up.
It's almost as if the whole point of all this bullshit to create situations "for cis people to fuck up" so you can pile on to them. 🤔
"My name is Roger and I eat babies. That's right, I literally kidnap, kill, cook, and devour human infants. Sometimes I fuck them first. But one thing you'll never catch me doing is misgendering my neighbor. I may be a child molesting cannibal, but I can still be an ally."
At NO POINT does evil linkara who is implied to torture and kill for fun and is literally mustache twirlingly evil.
Ever misgender IronLiz its always She and Her.
There is never a sign that he would ever misgender her.
And thats what I like about this she ra thing and What linkara did.
There is such a thing as a villain being evil and the writer being evil.
I do not understand this mentality. Why is it a bad thing if a character who is clearly being portrayed as being in the wrong does such a terrible deed as misgendering someone?
Wouldn't that, you know, reflect poorly on the kinds of people who do that?
Why is any portrayal of something like that, even a negative one, treated like an endorsement?
Is it really a good thing if we're so afraid to acknowledge this stuff that even evil villains won't mention it? I'm surprised the woke folks aren't calling this erasure or something.
I don't know why this particular article is what finally snapped the last, delicate thread of my sanity, but I'm entirely certain at this point that the world ended in 2012 as a failed experiment and we're all living in its creator's fever dream as punishment for our collective sins.
On one hand, if a character is being a dick to others, misgendering people is a dick move that they can do. On the other hand and much more importantly: She-Ra is a kids show and if the one thing we could take home from this is that misgendering people is so evil that it cannot be done in a kids show then I 100% support this.
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3 LightUmbra 2019-11-06
That sounds awful.
3 CuriousKrow 2019-11-06
It's almost like the voice actor/actress was reading a script or something 🤔
3 QuadNarca 2019-11-06
Never understood why these people want even villians to accept these no sexism,racism,transpobia etc. rules. Isn't the point of the villian to be an evil bad person?
4 THOT-AUDITOR 2019-11-06
No, the point of the villain, as with every other American cartoon marketed towards children (but mostly enjoyed by developmentally arrested adults), is to softly reaffirm the viewer's existing political outlook and inoffensively flirt with the heroine for ship-baiting.
1 HyperIceCube 2019-11-06
Reddit users only like generic capeshit villains. They don’t like to have the conversation that morality isn’t an easy grasp and in the real world it’s not that easy to label who’s a hero and who’s a villain most of the time. It’s why so many of them hate centrism and people who don’t pick sides in politics.
1 diggity_md 2019-11-06
This is just like the Handmaiden's Tale, therefore, u r nazzy
1 QuadNarca 2019-11-06
What I always hated about any kind of children movies is that there is this kind and always good and helpful hero main character and the rude evil mad villian who plans evil but the hero stops him everytime. But this is really not how the world works, in reality everyone thinks of themselves as the good guy. and just figuring out who is the real good guy is hard, when in the children movie the mad scientist tells you how evil he is. I don't know why people care about violence influencing the children, when teaching children this black and white thinking is way more dangerous.
1 TheLordHighExecu 2019-11-06
Plagues on society:
Broke: racism, sexism
Woke: Manichaeism, Great Man Theory
1 Redactor0 2019-11-06
I prefer the Great Tard Theory. Much of human history is driven by a few exceptionally stupid people who found themselves in positions of power.
1 TrailerParkRide 2019-11-06
Karel Čapek dedicated his life to writing about the agony of human blindness. He built a legacy depicting people either unable or unwilling to see their site and situation for what they are. A great radical centrist in the most macro sense, neither sympathetic nor opposed to human life and folly. Good shit.
4 Tzar-Romulus 2019-11-06
Well there's being bad and then there's being bad 🤪
1 HyperIceCube 2019-11-06
They want to make it seem like named pronouns is a natural part of language instead of a respect reason. I don’t think a villain would train himself to use the correct pronouns for someone It literally makes no sense why one would.
2 pol__invictus__risen 2019-11-06
Yeah let's turn pronouns into a second set of names we have to refer to everyone by, that won't be onerous or stupid.
6 HyperIceCube 2019-11-06
Even funnier is that pronouns aren’t personal. Pronouns are meant to make speaking easier and avoid repetition in sentences. If they’re used as names it defeats the entire purpose. We call things he or she so others can observe and understand who we are referring to. If you look opposite to your identity no one is gonna know who im referring too and defeats the purpose.
1 McFluff_TheCrimeCat 2019-11-06
Ok, boomer.
2 pol__invictus__risen 2019-11-06
Go play fortnite on your phone.
2 slugulon 2019-11-06
Please explain how non binary isn’t some stupid made up shit that makes no sense
1 AFellowCanadianGuy 2019-11-06
Ok zoomer
1 BannedAccountNumber6 2019-11-06
Don’t lump in this millennial scum with us B&R Zoomers
1 aqouta 2019-11-06
China, in their infinite wisdom, didn't bother with gendered pronouns, just ta means he and she. Ta-min means plural them. ni means you, ni-min means plural you. Wu means me/I wu-min means plural us. Too bad their written language is pants on head retarded or it might be a viable alternative to retarded bastardizations of Latin.
2 Shitposting_Skeleton 2019-11-06
It's written differently tho. Male, female, animal, and "other" have a different conjugative part in writing, which is important since Chinese is only really a common written language, as even dialects are often mutually unintelligible.
1 aqouta 2019-11-06
Their written language is garbo, but spoken Mandarin is based.
1 Shitposting_Skeleton 2019-11-06
I disagree mostly since that is my mother tongue. Not a big fan of it really.
1 aqouta 2019-11-06
Yeah but I got through almost 3 hours of a "how to learn manderine:basics" audio book so far so I'm pretty much an expert.
1 charming_tatum 2019-11-06
Ask your mom "what that tongue do" for me please
1 Mayos_side 2019-11-06
Mandarin is all heerr shwarr shwinn harr
1 diggity_md 2019-11-06
Well at least you have to make the effort of writing it down to misgender someone
1 pol__invictus__risen 2019-11-06
In fairness gendered pronouns made perfect sense before the internet and the age of not necessarily knowing the gender of the person on the other side of the computer and the mass delusion of being another gender that it enabled.
1 ironicshitpostr 2019-11-06
fuck tones tho
1 totalrandomperson 2019-11-06
Turkospeak is fully gender neutral, "O" for everything.
1 AlexJones_GayFrog 2019-11-06
Did they forget that people who give themselves retarded nicknames are looked at by normal people as lunatics? Unless you're extremely famous or something.
1 fuckedupridiculant 2019-11-06
The best thing to do is to refer to someone as 'person' or some neutral variation. This has the advantage of being both completely respectful, and also pissing off the guy who no longer gets his special label.
2 Tzar-Romulus 2019-11-06
Reminder Non-binary people are just bratty teen mayoids larping.
1 Kaiser-romulus 2019-11-06
Based AF brother
1 ImHereForTheBussy 2019-11-06
It's just emo/goth bullshit but updating for the 2010s
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1 ImJustaBagofHammers 2019-11-06
What the fuck?
1 dramasexual 2019-11-06
Did u know that misgendering is literally worse than torturing and killing people for fun?
1 TheColdTurtle 2019-11-06
Wow the lightbringer is a true chad. Now he just needs to finish that power rangers review
1 Redactor0 2019-11-06
Yeah, if I called him "him" instead of "xir" everyone would be completely bewildered and have no idea what I was talking about.
It's almost as if the whole point of all this bullshit to create situations "for cis people to fuck up" so you can pile on to them. 🤔
2 HyperIceCube 2019-11-06
Pronouns aren’t meant for the people they are referring to it’s meant for the person speaking and being spoken too.
1 Neon_needles 2019-11-06
This is what happens when you run a cartoon by a bunch of fat mentally handicapped dykes.
1 PlebbitBronzeUser 2019-11-06
" Just because you're evil doesn't mean you have to be a dick. " Said unironically...
1 TrailerParkRide 2019-11-06
"My name is Roger and I eat babies. That's right, I literally kidnap, kill, cook, and devour human infants. Sometimes I fuck them first. But one thing you'll never catch me doing is misgendering my neighbor. I may be a child molesting cannibal, but I can still be an ally."
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1 200iqBigBrain 2019-11-06
I do not understand this mentality. Why is it a bad thing if a character who is clearly being portrayed as being in the wrong does such a terrible deed as misgendering someone?
Wouldn't that, you know, reflect poorly on the kinds of people who do that?
Why is any portrayal of something like that, even a negative one, treated like an endorsement?
Is it really a good thing if we're so afraid to acknowledge this stuff that even evil villains won't mention it? I'm surprised the woke folks aren't calling this erasure or something.
1 dramasexual 2019-11-06
I have no mouth, and I must HOOOOOOOOONK
I don't know why this particular article is what finally snapped the last, delicate thread of my sanity, but I'm entirely certain at this point that the world ended in 2012 as a failed experiment and we're all living in its creator's fever dream as punishment for our collective sins.
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1 Metatron58 2019-11-06
so which is it?
1 TrailerParkRide 2019-11-06
Ed, Edd, & Eddysexual isn't a recognized orientation so she had to make due.
1 LU19_ 2019-11-06
In the subreddit everyone keeps using male pronouns for Tobia's character lmao. People are just assuming the character's gender.
PS She-Ra is actually good. You straight boys are missing out.
1 MG87 2019-11-06
Well He- Man was pretty damn gay
1 necrocannibal2 2019-11-06
1 darth_tiffany 2019-11-06
Stop watching cartoons for children holy shit
1 permanentban10293847 2019-11-06
It's its own parody at this point.
1 TheColdTurtle 2019-11-06
They talk about fucking linkara ahahahahah. Him dating the nostalgia chick apparently makes him a good person.
1 iamhavingagoodtime 2019-11-06
Are you brony creeps still campaigning against this cartoon for little girls? It's been like a year now.